UFC 72 in Northern Ireland
 

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Do you even watch UFC?

I might go if we get a crowd together for it.

Now I've got money I'm tempted to get some cheap flights and go to this if I can find someone else to go with, oh, and then go out in Belfast too:y:

I'll be doing a fight night BBQ and what not at my house for this show.

I see a lot of people bashing this card on the net, saying the only note-worthy fighter on the card is Rich. Fucking assholes.

Hope you guys have fun watching this one too, I am definetly not missing the next one coming to Texas. I should of went to Houston when I had a chance.

The card looks weak because fighters refused to go to Belfast.

Do they think its like permanently Bloody Sunday there or somethng?

They watched Patriot Games too many times.

Danny Electiric has been waiting to you use the joke for the past 3 years now. Congrats DE on finally being able to use it.

Apparently this show is going to be on Spike TV like the Manchester show. So I'll take that.

Huh?
More like 6 years..

I haven't seen the card but someone told me Forrest Griffin is on there. Him and Rich Franklin would be worth £30 to go see.

Any particular reason?

I like the patience, and it was very well executed to. :y:

They are fucking stupid men who haven't picked up a newspaper or watched the news in the last 10 years.

Here is the card

Rich Franklin vs Martin Kampmann

Forrest Griffin vs Hector Rameriz

Tyson Griffin vs Clay Guida

Jason McDonald vs Rory Singer

Jake O'Brien vs Tom Murphy

Ed Herman vs Scott Smith

Eddie Sanchez vs Collin Robinson

Marcus Davis vs TBA

Dustin Hazelett vs TBA.

Forest Griffin fighting?

Oh well.

The Odyssy is a pretty small arena anyway, it's weird they're coming to Belfast before London and other places in Britain/Europe.

posted that at the same time?

Could be because the last one was in manchester, maybe they thought they would get a bigger audience if they moved to another country.

London is in September. Not sure about the building yet but it's a definate for September.

I might go to that
My mate went to Cage Rage the other week when Bob Sapp no showed :)

So did my mate. He could have went to UFC with me though so I laughed in his face.

Anyone who goes to any UFC I'm going to is more than welcome to tag along with my lot.

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As both he and I alluded to I'm almost certain its because they're completely ignorant to whats going on in Northern Ireland, and likely what has gone on there since the start of the Troubles anyway.

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Guess UFC guys aren't as tough as they make out :-\

Some of them probably have delusions of grandeur beyond America too

Lol look at all you bashing UFC fighters, and have no idea why some of them didnt want to go to Ireland. Fuck off. Be happy they are giving your country a go around to begin with.

Ok... :wtf:

2 people isn't "all of you"

and we are not in any way bashing them.

And I don't think it's up to the fighters which country they give a "go around".

Are you like UFC's Brock Lesnar or something?

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Well then what other reasons are there to explain why fighters en masse refuse to go to Belfast?

Seriously, stupid post dude.

This is in fact gonna be on PPV and not on Spike for Americans.

I'm going to give the UFC fighters the benifit of the doubt and say that they didn't want to go to Belfast because of the big time change which could cause problems when it comes to how the fight if they are jetlagged. The obvious remedy for that would be to show up to Belfast a few days in advance but mixed martial artists are creatures of habit and they probably would rather be at theire usual gym training. If they don't want to go because they think they'd be in danger, that's pretty stupid. Even if Belfast were a warzone they'd protect athletes like crazy and they wouldn't be harmed. I've never been to Belfast or Ireland before so I don't know I'm sure it's a fine city.

As for the card, here are a few reasons to watch...

--Dustin Hazelett is a pretty intresting guy with his submissions and stuff, his match probably won't air but if you like grappling he's intresting.
--Ed Herman versus Scott Smith is going to be a war, hopefully they air this match.
--Eddie "Cro Cop's Punching Bag at UFC 67" Sanchez will show that against mortal MMA fighters he's pretty good.
--See how Jake O'Brien reacts in his first fight after upsetting Heath Herring.
--Marcus "The Irish Hand Grenade" Davis walking out to his fight in a kilt.
--You get to see Jason "The TUF Killer" MacDonald kill another TUF alumni in Rory Singer.
--Forrest Griffin trying to get back on the winning track.
--Franklin/Okami is going to be a great fight, possibly the best fight of the year to this point.

Jet lagged? This is nonsense. Belfast is a stones throw from Manchester and nobody was jet legged on that show. Neither were they when they did the London show years ago. Are the Americans that fight in Pride jet legged? Thousands of boxers have travelled and not been jet legged. WWE wrestlers fly all over the world on a constant basis. Bullshit arguement there.

In all seriousness, I'd fear for my safety in New York more than I would in Belfast.

Jet lag is a BS excuse, as Rob said Belfast is actually closer to the states than Manchester and London anyway.

Hey I was just saying benifit of the doubt. I don't know what people are thinking or what they want to do. By the way who refused to fight at UFC 72?

I don't know the names for definate but I think Tito Ortiz was one of them. Can't say for sure so I'm not knocking anyone specific yet.

Yknow I would hazard a guess at Manchester actually being more dangerous than Belfast these days now that the troubles are long over

Not defending Tito Ortiz, but I would guess that the reason he wouldn't be on the card is because they wouldn't make him the Main Event, which he thinks he has a right to. Which if it was going to be Ortiz/Evans that would definitly have to head a card with no titles on the line. That and this pretty much any event that doesn't have a title match in it is really a B show, and considering Tito Ortiz is one of the most marketable UFC guys he doesn't belong on the "b show."

But if people don't go because they're afarid, like I said before, they're insane.

But thats not the reason though. My post before was rash and blunt, and after reading it again it was stupid for me to come off that way.

However, I am saying in different words now, that I refuse to believe that multiple fighters did not want to go to Belfast because of the war. I down right refuse to believe that. Tito Ortiz, fine. I will believe that, because that dude has snubbed out anything he wants to for years now. He left UFC ages ago because of "contract Issue's" (aka, I am bitch and want more money) and constantly causes drama (the snub to Dana and the boxing match). Thats how that guy is. It would take some hard proof to change my mind about any other fighter.

No I am not trying to be the Brock Lesnar of MMA :rofl: . I guess I just over-react to some post's I see because this is actually what I am trying to get into now. I have been training for 9 months at a gym in my town under Woody Fox. Its fucking really hard stuff. Especially when I first started, I was good and out of shape. I sat on my ass out of highschool, put on like 40 pounds, and got real lazy. I always watched UFC though, and had a bro that wrestled in high school, so I watched him do that and got into everything early. Just woke up one day and decided to give it a go. I didnt have really anything when I went into it, but I think I have actually started to come along well. My trainer is a Thai boxing coach, and a black belt in Bjj. Their is also an olympic qualified taekwondo instructor at the same place that teaches, so he comes and helps work kicks and standup with us. Monday, Wednesday, and Saturday for 3 hours a day. When/If I start competing that goes to 5 times a week. I havent had a fight yet, but 3 other guys in my class have had fights, so I have watched my fair share.

Moral of all this I guess is, as another competitor (cant say fighter...yet), its hard for me to believe that someone would let that get in the way of what they do. I have enough brains to know that everything would be well in order and safe.

Last comment. Card is starting to shape up well. I liked it before, but Okami and Franklin seem to be a better fight then Kampmann. I figure Franklin has his hands full with his switch of gameplans. I hope Forrest gets his win, another loss would not be good for him right now. Undercard seems solid enough.

He left because he wanted more money? Well he was the biggest draw in the company and they didn't wanna pay him his worth. He wasn't in the top 5 highest paid before he left. UFC was getting big, PPV's were growing, they were doing million dollar gates and they wouldn't pay the draws accordingly. He would have been insane not to leave. Oh and his contract had expired and this is all the point of negociations.

And he came back, and got more money and more exposure and is an even bigger draw now.

Anyone who wouldn't do this is an idiot.

I didnt say he was an idiot. I said the guy is a giant vagina sandwich. My post was to explain that I could believe he did it, because he is a drama/media whore. Most of what you posted is true. He was top draw, probably deserved more money because of it. However, it doesnt change the fact that the guy is a pussy, and that he makes excuses for most of the shit that doesnt go his way to try and save face with people. He hasnt fought to "fight" in years. Always about money and fame with this guy. I see him doing the rest of his contract and then going into show business, because thats what he is all about, Drama.

I can't imagine the idea of going to Belfast to fight would scare any of them off...They would probably fight in Detroit, Baltimore, or Washington DC, all of which I am sure are FAR more dangerous than Belfast.

Difference is they only know of Belfast from what they heard in news stories over a decade ago.

Strong rumour now is that UFC signed Shogun Rua and he is debuting on this show.

AW SHIT....

Someone who went to the show, tell up about it...

I saw Griffin and Franklin won..

Anything eles happen??

The results make me want to download this. Seemed like a pretty good show minus the main event.

Couldn't get tix :(

That sucks. I really feel for you.

Just watched it, was a decent card.

This show was great and worth buying just for the Tyson vs. Clay fight alone.

Why? They were still available on Friday morning when I checked.

Was there and had a great time. Overall it wasn't the best UFC event i've seen, nowhere near some of them in truth, but the Griffin / Guida fight alone made the money i shelled out worth it. Those two fellas tore into eachother for the entire 15 minutes and if they, the UFC, are coming back our way they should bring them two back with them for the rematch!

Rob, read an interview with Shogun today and he pretty much confirmed he was supposed to fight on the card but things just didn't work out. Shame. Would have been great to see him in the flesh.