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Xero 05-12-2007 04:31 PM

Better Music: "The Time is Now" vs. "Basic Thuganomics"
 
I iz a john CENAAAAA fanzzzzz and i wantd 2 no wich u tgink iz betta: BAZIC TUGGANOMICS or DA TIME IZZZZ NOWWW>?!??!?!?!?!

Seriously though, which was/is better?

I have to go with Basic Thuganomics. Mainly because it sounds like a great heel theme.

Juan 05-12-2007 04:34 PM

Neither, I fucking hate wiggers.

ClockShot 05-12-2007 04:36 PM

WHAT! NO BAD BAD MAN?

Just kidding, I hate wigger music as well.

Anybody Thrilla 05-12-2007 04:36 PM

Basic Thuganomics is one of my ringtones.

Anybody Thrilla 05-12-2007 04:36 PM

What were you trying to do by making 'I hate wigger music' and option?

Xero 05-12-2007 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla
What were you trying to do by making 'I hate wigger music' and option?

Uh, for people who hate wigger music?

Anybody Thrilla 05-12-2007 04:38 PM

Two face rappers walk away with four shiners
The war rhymer
Turnin' legends to old timers
My incisors like a viper bitin through your one liners
New deadman inc., and we about to make you famous
Takin' over earth and still kickin' in uranus

Not bad rhymes, really.

chrisat928 05-12-2007 04:38 PM

I like "Basic Thuganomics." But if he ever turns heel. he should use "Don't Fuck With Us."

Anybody Thrilla 05-12-2007 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero Limit 126
Uh, for people who hate wigger music?

A white guy rapping does not equate a wigger, for the record.

Xero 05-12-2007 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla
A white guy rapping does not equate a wigger, for the record.

So you're saying Cena isn't a wigger?

Because THAT's what I was getting at.

Also, LOL at Cena not being able to to keep a poop joke out of his theme.

chrisat928 05-12-2007 04:42 PM

Considering all the shitty music out there, Cena ain't that bad of a rapper.

Kane Knight 05-12-2007 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla
A white guy rapping does not equate a wigger, for the record.

:roll: You are SUCH a wigger.

DAMN iNATOR 05-12-2007 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero Limit 126
I iz a john CENAAAAA fanzzzzz and i wantd 2 no wich u tgink iz betta: BAZIC TUGGANOMICS or DA TIME IZZZZ NOWWW>?!??!?!?!?!

Seriously though, which was/is better?

I have to go with Basic Thuganomics. Mainly because it sounds like a great heel theme.

STOP SPOILIN’!

Xero 05-12-2007 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrisat928
Considering all the shitty music out there, Cena ain't that bad of a rapper.

Most rap is shit anyway.

*Cough*

*Prepares for incoming flames*

Anybody Thrilla 05-12-2007 04:44 PM

I've always had a problem with the term 'wigger'. Maybe because of the word that it stems from. Or maybe because I can't believe that people can't come to grips with people just relating to things that aren't from their 'own kind'.

Look at John Cena now and tell me what's wiggerish about him. All he did when he was a heel was rap and wear throwbacks. Sure he hammed it up for the character, but it really was never a huge deal to me that he was white. It was just a good character.

I always wondered if a black rapper could get over as a heel.

Anybody Thrilla 05-12-2007 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero Limit 126
Most rap is shit anyway.

*Cough*

*Prepares for incoming flames*

See, that's kinda what it sounded like you were implying to begin with as well. Dunno, the option just didn't sit well with me. Not like I expect you to do anything about it. Just saying.

Anybody Thrilla 05-12-2007 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kane Knight
:roll: You are SUCH a wigger.

:o

Xero 05-12-2007 04:48 PM

Wigger = White person who acts "ghettoish"/"Unrealistically Thuggish" and talk with a stereotypical black "drawl" I'll call it as far as I'm concerned.

Xero 05-12-2007 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla
See, that's kinda what it sounded like you were implying to begin with as well. Dunno, the option just didn't sit well with me. Not like I expect you to do anything about it. Just saying.

It was more a shot at the Cena joke than anything else in the first place, you made it personal.

Anybody Thrilla 05-12-2007 04:49 PM

Did you consult Merriam Webster on that one?

Anybody Thrilla 05-12-2007 04:51 PM

Dunno, I like Cena and I like rap (I'm a minority in SO many ways), and I see people talk shit about both ALL the time. Get's redundant, I guess.

Anybody Thrilla 05-12-2007 04:52 PM

Surely I won't argue that his heel character wasn't a "wigger", but when that theme music changed, so did his character, and what we have now is hardly a "wigger". Therefore, "The Time is Now" shouldn't even techincally be considered "wigger" music.

Just things to think about here.

Xero 05-12-2007 04:52 PM

It doesn't take much to have three beats and a few rhyming words to make a "song".

Same as it doesn't take much to have three moves to have a Cena "match".

Kane Knight 05-12-2007 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla
I've always had a problem with the term 'wigger'. Maybe because of the word that it stems from. Or maybe because I can't believe that people can't come to grips with people just relating to things that aren't from their 'own kind'.

when you consider the etymology of "wigger," and how long it's been around (The source of "white Nigger," anyway), it's kind of shocking how common the word is. It's also funny that people do the whole "He's trying to be black."

If anything, we should mock Hulk as a wigger. He was trying to be black, and ended up orange.

Anybody Thrilla 05-12-2007 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero Limit 126
It doesn't take much to have three beats and a few rhyming words to make a "song".

:n:

I don't know how much rap or hip hop you actually listen to. I'm willing to bet not much. And I'm also gonna guess you only hear the stuff on the radio. That was just a dreadful, dreadful assesment. But I guess that's a different discussion for a different tiem.

DAMN iNATOR 05-12-2007 04:56 PM

Cena’s “Basic Thuganomics” Entrance Music & Video
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Cena’s “My Time Is Now” Entrance Music & Video
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Judge for yourself, and if you haven’t already, and would like to vote, after viewing each video.

Anybody Thrilla 05-12-2007 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kane Knight
when you consider the etymology of "wigger," and how long it's been around (The source of "white Nigger," anyway), it's kind of shocking how common the word is. It's also funny that people do the whole "He's trying to be black."

That shit irks me hardcore. So much that I couldn't keep my mouth shut in this very thread.

Blitz 05-12-2007 04:57 PM

Basic Thuganomics by a huge margin.

Xero 05-12-2007 04:58 PM

I have to ask, what would be considered the current day stereotypical upscale/middle class black person? I'm not trying to be offensive here, but let's look at it:

Has "tricked out" rides
Likes to "bling it up" whenever possible
Likes rap, probably does rap

2 out of three right there for Cena, and I'm sure I missed a few.

By THESE standards, you can say that Cena is trying to be black OR adopting the black culture. Pretty much a classic "wigger" definition.

Anybody Thrilla 05-12-2007 04:58 PM

As far as the two pieces of work being discussed here, I'm gonna bet "Basic Thuganomics" wins by a landslide considering what was going on with Cena on screen when people were hearing these themes.

Anybody Thrilla 05-12-2007 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero Limit 126
I have to ask, what would be considered the current day stereotypical upscale/middle class black person? I'm not trying to be offensive here, but let's look at it:

Has "tricked out" rides
Likes to "bling it up" whenever possible
Likes rap, probably does rap

2 out of three right there for Cena, and I'm sure I missed a few.

Why can't white guys be into those things without being accused of trying to be something else? I'm sorry, but I just don't use stereotypes as a measuring stick.

Blitz 05-12-2007 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero Limit 126
Most rap is shit anyway.

*Cough*

*Prepares for incoming flames*

Yeah I used to be like that too. Then I started listening to shit that wasn't on the radio. No longer.

Blitz 05-12-2007 05:02 PM

Gonna go listen to the Roots now.

Anybody Thrilla 05-12-2007 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blitz
Yeah I used to be like that too. Then I started listening to shit that wasn't on the radio. No longer.

I've been trying to convert so many people, but all that 'stereotypical' shit on the radio is such a hard sell. People get their stereotypes and they hold dear to them, like Cena and the spinner belt.

See? I can make Cena jokes too!

Xero 05-12-2007 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla
Why can't white guys be into those things without being accused of trying to be something else? I'm sorry, but I just don't use stereotypes as a measuring stick.

Neither do I when it matters, but this is about John Cena, and he's clearly promoted as such.

McMahon even made the "mah nigga" joke. What more do you need to see that he's seen by the writers as a "wigger"? Or at least was?

Anybody Thrilla 05-12-2007 05:07 PM

Fine, but either way, this thread was just about the two songs, I thought. Which one do people like better. I thought the 'I hate wigger music' was slightly hateful sounding, not to mention detremental to the purpose of the thread, which was to see what song people liked better. That was the purpose, right? Maybe I read it wrong?

Anybody Thrilla 05-12-2007 05:08 PM

It wasn't even make a public poll. People can be anonymous bigots. I guess that's a pretty good selling point. :shifty:

Anybody Thrilla 05-12-2007 05:09 PM

And yes, I'm sure I'm looking way too far into this. But looky here...a cookie cutter joke poll thread has now started a potentially decent discussion. I'm off to work now, but you guys can thank me later.

Xero 05-12-2007 05:09 PM

Yes, it was. It was only a joke, like so many OTHER polls on this site has.

I really do apologize that it offended you. I don't try to offend, I only try to exploit a joke out of something, this time being a running gag. (Yes, the secret to my rep is exposed.)

Anybody Thrilla 05-12-2007 05:14 PM

Xero, you're respected here. You could use your powers for SO much better.

Russenmafia 05-12-2007 05:50 PM

Basic Thuganomics for me, My Time is Now is terrible.

Kane Knight 05-12-2007 06:38 PM

Fuck Niggers.

...Wait, you mean only the poll was anonymous? You can read this? FUUUUCK.

V 05-12-2007 06:41 PM

Basic Thuganomics.

by far.

Crossrine 05-12-2007 08:37 PM

Is it just me, or the last time I heard "The time is now" there was something about brushing with colgate? Try listening to the entrance song on RAW (despite how painful that sounds) and make out the rest of the shitty lyrics.

RGWhat316 05-12-2007 08:41 PM

I almost wanted to vote for hating wigger music, but I actually do like "Basic Thuganomics". It's a reminder when Cena was actually kinda cool.

311 05-12-2007 09:39 PM

"My Time Is Now" sounds more like a main eventer's entrance.

I hate both, personally.

Londoner 05-12-2007 09:49 PM

Basic Thuganomics is much better, but it had to be changed due to it not sounding right for a main event face.

Anybody Thrilla 05-13-2007 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crossrine
Is it just me, or the last time I heard "The time is now" there was something about brushing with colgate? Try listening to the entrance song on RAW (despite how painful that sounds) and make out the rest of the shitty lyrics.

I got my soul straight
I'll brush your mouth like Colgate

Theo Dious 05-14-2007 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla
Why can't white guys be into those things without being accused of trying to be something else?

You know what's worse? I'm black and because I'm NOT into those things, I've been told I'm "not really black."

Actually I'm only 7/8 black, so they're probably right. :-\

Kane Knight 05-14-2007 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by DarthTedious
You know what's worse? I'm black and because I'm NOT into those things, I've been told I'm "not really black."

Actually I'm only 7/8 black, so they're probably right. :-\

One drop of white blood. ;)

No, but it's kinda funny. Being able to articulate and not live to some gay little stereotype (And let's face it, the "nigga" lifestyle is all about being as gay as possile, while fronting homosexuality) causes alienation. I mean, it's not like there's any commonality.

Theo Dious 05-14-2007 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kane Knight
...the "nigga" lifestyle is all about being as gay as possile, while fronting homosexuality

Wait just a goddamn minute here.

You're telling me that the culture that popularized sagging your pants like a prison bitch making himself easier to rape in the ass is somehow equivalent to homosexuality?

The hell you say. :mad:................................................:shifty:

Theo Dious 05-14-2007 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kane Knight
One drop of white blood. ;)

Actually the records are kind of sketchy, but it's entirely possible that one of my mother's ancestors actually owned another.

Fuck reparations, I'm suing Family Guy fof co-opting my family history. :foc:

Kane Knight 05-14-2007 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarthTedious
Actually the records are kind of sketchy, but it's entirely possible that one of my mother's ancestors actually owned another.

Fuck reparations, I'm suing Family Guy fof co-opting my family history. :foc:


That would make an interesting family reunion.

I'm half Eenjun, but my Scottish ancestors came here after the conquest of the redskins, so there's minimal risk of an "awkward" moment.

Theo Dious 05-14-2007 02:09 PM

My parents were so playfully racist while I was growing up that I'm not one bit oversensitive to it. My dad calls my mom "his white girl." She has one white grandparent. My mother, in turn, tells him to "go cry to Jesse Jackson" when he gets upset about something, and when he get pissed he starts talking like Sharpton. At which point my mother usually informs him that he has two white sons.


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