Spiderman 4, 4 of 6 movies?
 

http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/preview/1809857507

Get the guy who plays Petrelli as Parker!

Pretty exciting, but I'm not too thrilled about the idea of new actors. Like them or hate them I've come to accept the cast as who they are. Tobey Maguire IS Peter Parker. Kirsten Dunst IS Mary Jane etc.

Yeah like Tobey Maguire has anything better going for him.

I agree - although I'm not sure he can tear himself away from doing Fergie music videos.

If they get a new cast and crew, it will bomb.

No, if they take it in a shitty direction it will bomb.

Batman Forever was a similar concept. Perhaps even more of a stray, time will tell. It was a new director, new tone, new mood, and a new Batman/Bruce Wayne. It clung to the same continuity in theory but aside from a few ambiguous references it was basically a new bag.
The only returning cast was Gordon and Alfred.
I bet the same Jameson and Aunt Mae stick around.

It did very well at the box office and was a big deal, and even though it bordered on cartoony and campy, it was pretty good at the time. It was well received and it's success was grand and it was primed for sequels.
Unfortunately, the shitty handling of the next one is what killed the franchise.

New Spidey and a new director, or even a new direction with the franchise isn't gonna kill it. As long as it maintains quality and is worthy of the Spider-Man name, it will live on.
Of course it will eventually get killed, but it's not impossible that they could succeed with a new direction for 1 or all 3 future movies.

Meh, they could do an older Spidey movie I suppose.

What as in where x amount of years have passed since 3? Yeah that could work.

Yeah, I mean... that'd work especially if they're wanting to lead into the Sinister Six where the villians have had time to group up.

That'd actually be pretty cool.

I suppose if they left it a few years they could get someone else to play an older Peter Parker. But the guy that played Jameson should stay, he's awesome.

Jameson's old enough that he doesn't need to change.

I couldn't care less if the cast changed. As long as the new actors are capable.

I don't even get the big deal about a cast change. Maguire was pretty lame, even in the role of an insecure nerd with super powers. Parker's supposed to be a sympathetic character. Tobey makes me want to help the bad guys win. I won't even go into MJ, because there's too much to say about her character.

An older Spiderman huh...I really don't think that would work. In order for that to work, they'd have to wait ten years....and then the kids who are into Spiderman right now would appreciate it more.

For example, it would have been a dream come true if in 2004 they did the Frank Miller Batman story instead of Batman Begins...and I would have preferred Michael Keaton return to play an older Batman.

But I doubt much money would have been made. But I think my generation would have really enjoyed it. And who knows, it would have been a good chance to introduce kids today to the first two Batman movies with Michael Keaton and advertisers could have told him that the guy who directed Charlie and the Chocolate Factory directed those as well. Those films aren't dated in my opinion and kids today would still love em'.

But enough Batman, back to Spiderman.

Personally, I think they should get the original cast to do it or not do it all. I'm sure the advertisers would be able to sucker the people in but will they like the product? Not likely. I know thousands and thousands of people went to see Batman Forever when it came out but I didn't know anyone back then or now that actually liked it. Jim Carrey was the only good thing about it.

You're retarded.

This is one of the stupidest posts i have ever read. And that is really saying something.

Are you in an institute?

Spiderman 2099 :shifty:

I know that was a joke, but I loved that series, and would not mind Spider-Man 2099 being made into a series.

James Cameron wanted to use Michael Bein as an older Spider-Man. Too bad he's TOO old now.

You don't know what I'm talking about and you guys have the nerve to insult my intelligence? Maybe it's because it's you're too stupid. Well, I'll sum it all up for you in idiot terms so you can get it:

A movie about an older Spiderman would suck and bomb. Young kids don't wanna see an old geezer as Spiderman. They'd wonder what happened to Maguire and who the old man was dressed up as Spiderman. If a film about an old Spiderman were to happen anytime soon, why not e-mail the WWE and suggest that they bring Hulk Hogan back and let him have another title run while we're at it? Now if Hollywood waited ten years for the kids of today to grow up, then they might appreciate an older Spiderman just like I would have enjoyed a movie about an older Batman three years ago with Michael Keaton as the lead because I grew up on the Tim Burton Batman movies.

But the fact of the matter is, even if a new young actor played Spiderman, a new Spiderman movie with a new cast and crew would suck and you're an idiot if you think otherwise. It's a waste of time and money. Why not use that money and energy to donate to a charity instead of making a crappy movie no one is going to like?

Mark my words. It will suck and then it will bomb and I will be sure to remind you all when it happens.

The only reason why they're making new Spiderman movies is because the others brought in money and as long as something brings money in, they're gonna keep shipping them out. But making a new movie with a new cast is almost like the studio's way of trying to kill off the series once and for all because they know a new cast and crew will ruin the series. Part IV will come out and blow ass and parts V and VI will most likely go straight to DVD...but as long as the studio gets their money, that's all they care about and they already made millions from the character so I doubt they care anymore.

Personally, I think Spiderman is over-rated anyway. Batman is way cooler. :yes: ;)

Bring on the red, bitches. :kiss:

We know what you're talking about. You're still stupid.

Ah, Hell, I'll feed the troll.

Yeah, we're talking about a 90 year old Spider-Man. And who uses Geezer anymore? Are you 50?

Yes, because people are so horrendously stupid they couldn't figure out that a different actor can play the same role. And putting something as simple as "Five Years Later..." At the beginning would certainly be incomprehensable to them. :lol:

Forgive me if I lack faith in your word that it'll bomb simply because of a different cast.

It's amazing how ebullient people tend to get over the prospect of failure.

Well, you certainly would know more about filmmaking than the guys making it, after all.

And no, it's not "almost like."

But...But you just said that they would continue to release them as long as they made money! Hell, you also just said that they don't care about the character! Why, then, would they even release a fifth after the fourth bombed?

You didn't think this through very much, did you?

I thought there was a contract and three new movies had to made?

Oh. My God.

You have no right to question anyone's intelligence. Ever.

This is so stupid it goes beyond simply "not knowing any better" and right into "common sense should have sent up a red flag and strangled you before you could say something that patently idiotic."

I have no one on Ignore. After this thread Venis, you are close.

I was actually going to comment but it hurt me trying to get my head around your reasoning. I cannot, no matter how hard i try, stoop to those levels of stupidity. I just can't....

And for fucks sake please stop talking about YOUR generation. Jesus:mad:

wow

to Val Venis that is. Just fuckin wow. Did you eat a lot of paintchips as a kid?

Needless to say, I think the odds of another Spider-Man movie bombing are about ass good as my odds of becoming a covergirl for Playboy.

I think the odds of one failing and them making another one anyway are the odds of Mr Regal's nipples spontaneously producing gold.

Eat them, no.

He tried to use them as leverage to get the crayons out of his nose and ears.

I pray that day comes.....and soon:shifty:

In the end, this debate and any debates I have with you guys....I will always win. ALWAYS. Wanna know why? Read on.

It's like I've said before fellas, look at your post counts...then look at mine....

I win by default. :).....I will ALWAYS win by default, and in society that actually exists outside of your homes, I will always be better and superior to all of you.

So stop trying...cause debates among grown men on internet message boards about Spiderman and pro wrestling don't mean a thing in the real world and those things should only be discussed if one is looking to pass the time...and in many of your cases...you're all clearly bored A LOT. The fact that you all care so deeply about those topics and can talk hours and hours about em' just prove what losers you all are.

But none of this stuff you're all debating about and insulting me about don't mean a thing in the non-internet world. All that matters in life is money and sex and only a moron would disagree. And boys, let me tell ya something...I've had more pussy action then all of you comic book loving, "jerking off to pictures Mary Jane, obsessing over a fake sport called rasslin' and spends all day posting on an internet message board chatting with other nerds" virgins combined.

I win. You all lose. Always and forever.

The end. :cool:

Venis, spider-man has been portrayed as older in the comics for over a decade.

And fyi, making assumptions about people's lives outside the internet based on their post count is kind of ridiculous.

Mr. Zeeboe, you are trying entirely too hard here.

You have officially become the stupidest person on these boards Venis. That is something to be very, very ashamed of.

Well, to be fair, he's probably right on the money about Kane Knight.

OH yeah, he's Zeeboe.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: OMG lol is this real?

See I read that, but the fact is people who DO have these dicussions are people who know what they are talking about. And even though some more than others, who cares, were talkin about ideas and shit that do mean something to people who wanna talk movies, your the fucking idiot making out you are something way beyond us, yet here you are wasting time like a prick.

But the main reason why I found that funny was where you are saying the most important things are money and sex, and then I look at your name and custom title lol what kind of fuck up are you lol

Or is this another sock/joke thing I have missed out on?

What kind of a spazz out rating would you give that, Kano?

I dunno, pretty high,...Actually no, fuck that, thats much worse than I have ever been, I don't use shit like this: "I win. You all lose. Always and forever."

Haaa ha ha ha ha ha haaaa.

Plus its really is the zenith of patheticness when you have a poster with a wrestlers name/nickname and apparantly personna in the form of a supposed 'human'. Which is why I thinking this is a SOCK. And secretly hoping.

LOL. You are so sad.

Val... when we refer to pussy we mean the female vagina. Not actual cats. Now I know your house full of cats keeps you company in the real non-internet world, but noone in any world really cares. Now I dont know what you use those cats for, but if you do ever get close to a female vagina, report to the police that you have found a body in the woods, or get the fuck out of the funeral home you sick freak.

That's one of the worst comebacks I've ever read.

So you don't read your own responses. Gotcha.

I think what you meant to say was:

"that's one of the worst comebacks my helper has ever read."

His helper also threw feces at it. Which is probably a better comback than Venis will ever accomplish.

Great this is now just a flame thread. :(

BACK ON TOPIC

Venom and the Lizard. Thems the picks. Get rid of Sam Rami because he is a Venom hater:mad:

Vulture has gotta be one of the shittest villains ever.

No, this is a guy who grew up getting his ass kicked because he was too stupid to shut the fuck up, and he's so damn obnoxious that even the other nerds didn't want to be around him. So now he can hide behind his keyboard and say whatever he wants because we can't give him the bitch-slap he deserves.

The Lizard and the Vulture are both kind of lame, but if they can tie them together, they could fill up a movie.

They blew their load far too early on Venom though. :mad:

bringing back Venom so soon would be the same thing they were trying to avoid with Goblin.

I think it should be:

4: Lizard
5: Kingpin and Hobgoblin
6: Carnage and Venom

HEY!

...Oh, you meant Venis. :o

Needs Rhino. Even if he's just a minor villain. I want to see Spidey drop a building on him.

Yea I personally think it'd be easy to incorporate Rhino and Shocker in as goons for Spidey to tangle with a couple times on behalf of Kingpin. So if they are able to use Kingpin, I'd like to see him be the brains with Shocker and Rhino doing his bidding. And in all of it the real main villian be the tweener Hobby.

Actually, I wouldn't say no to the Kingpin imposing himself on multiple movies. On top of whoever baddy of the week is, Kingpin has an outstanding hit on Spider-Man, and he doesn't even need to show up at first. At worst, we're looking at like a 1-2 scene commitment.

lol Rhyno. I laugh a little thinking about them trying to make him cool and contempary. Big man in a skin tight suit with a big Rhino face on probably wouldn't go down to well with the studio.

Make him some guy tughh guy in an overcoat. Like Silent Bob, but 7' Tall and stupid.

You just give him the same treatment most outrageous superheroes have gotten thus far.

They made Sabretooth, Wolverine, Juggernaut and others look real. They can do the same with Rhino.
Shocker wouldn't be hard. You can just have a thug with the gauntlets. He can wear a cool looking ski mask and a trench coat, and a yellow and black sweatervest.


WIth Rhino, Instead it can be a big armored supersuit with a horned helmet.
I like the idea (I posted earlier) of Kingpin dealing in the same market as Oscorp. Applied sciences and military technology. I also like the idea of his goons being a product of what hes developed and stolen. Crooked industrial espionage all over the place, with him sending them there to steal and sabotage stuff. Of course Spidey will have some emotional motive to defend and protect Oscorp due to his ties with the family legacy, in addition to him just standing up to crime and Kingpins treachery.
The crooked CEO/Mob Boss Kingpin would of course get sick of this bug, and go to new lengths to squash him.

After the 5th installment where they're introduced, Who is to say that Kingpin and Smythe can't be the ones to bring back Venom. Not to control him, but just to try and harness his power and then he spawns Carnage and that whole mess breaks out as Kingpin and his stooges just cower at what they've done.

Just send Shocker and Rhino to steal the symbiote.
This could be pre or post Lizard. Post would probably be better, since at this point Connors would be friends with Spiderman and not just Parker. There you have a reason for Spidey to care about what happened, and about the people who did it.

Some more brainstorming: How about the motive for Smythe and Shocker to steal the symbiote is to study it as a way for them to break Kingpin out of a maximum security prison that Spidey lands him in at the end of 5. It's powers would be perfect for breaking in. Plus thats where Venom could spawn and Carnage could bond to Kassidy.
Venom wouldn't just go along with things unless it was beneficial to him, so what could they offer him: Spiderman.
But when Spidey falls into Venoms later trap, Carnage gets involved and the triple threat becomes a teamup against the unstoppable Carnage.

I'd like to see Lizard be the primary villian of 4 and have a more simple installment to go back to basics and get sure footing. I enjoyed Spidey 3 but for the benefit of the franchise it'd be nice to see them tone it down before doing stories with multiple players like I'd like for 5 and 6.

I dunno, if your thinkin minor villain roles I actually wouldn't mind seeing a Kraven. Before you verbally fuck me, just think about it.

I cant even think of a good possibility. What about him? What about KRAVEN?

Well that'd be part of the Lizard movie. I suppose it could fit, but I don't personally want to see it brought to screen.

Kraven'd be great in the more "realistic" world.

I dunno....change it all around a bit, a little from column A, a little from column B and you could say he is part of a genetic experiment and he's.....I really can't be arsed lol dunno whats wrong with me. We just need a good excuse to use Kraven....

About Morbius stuff, but change it from a Vampire to something else. Like a flower or a duck.

I'd just find him to be boring, and I don't think he'd be very interesting to very many people who don't know of him already

I always loved Morbius, but I highly doubt he'll be used. He has more of a chance of being used in a Blade movie

Yeah shame it revolved around the whole Vampire thing.

Didn't a radioactive bat, bite him and transformed him in to Morbius?

I can't remember it clearly :$

Kraven could rock if they would write a decent storyline for him.

Btw, totally off topic, but i would still love to see a Captain America movie.

The Captain America they made movie wasn't all that bad for it's time actually....if I recall correctly...

They could also go with the Scorpion storyline in the fourth movie somehow whether he be a major or minor villain. Now IF Eddie Brock did die, they could use the story line from the comics where Gargan (Scorpion) gets the symbiote on him and becomes Venom. Hed prolly just use the symbiote that Dr. Connors still has Id think.

In fact if they do the sinister 6 that would be the right way to go right? Isnt Gargan Venom when the sinister six is around? Or is that just the Thunderbolts?

I don't think so. I don't remember what year it was made, but it was made around the same time as Batman, and after Superman. A bad movie is a bad movie, and Captain America was one

I checked it. 1990. Not really any excuses.

Until Xmen and Spiderman finally got our of their 10 year development hell, Marvel movies SUCKED. There were a few of them and they were all worse than your average sci fi channel garbage.
The best screen adaptation of a Marvel superhero at that point was Vincent D'nofrio as Thor in Adventures in Babysitting

and of course the Hulk tv show was the goods

Ah...but was it though?

yea

Sinister Six dates back a couple decades, now. It's had many different forms.

I can only remember these six.

http://www.heroesonline.com/Photos/h...adge-print.jpg

Vulture is just such a shitty character. If Ben Kingsley hadnt done Thunderbirds, he'd be a good actor choice for Vulture.

YES Kraven.

I personally want to see Mysterio as the villain in one of the movies. I think that the visual effects would be limitless for him.

Heck, if Bruce Campbell was not already in the movies, he would be perfect to play him.

The only roster change I can remember offhand is when Hobby replaced the deceased Kraven.

Electro's costume is so gay

It had Cap and The Red Skull. It was certainly watchable.....at the time. I remember it coming out. I was young and I enjoyed it. so:foc:

Wasn't it released in like 1996? Like after being put on ice because even they knew it sucked?

Nothing says enjoyable like a direct to DVD that's only released because a bunch of fanboys will buy anything with "Marvel" on it.

Right, i remember that roster change.

Then later on, Doc Oc died and Venom replaced him.

After my time.

There were others, too. I just don't remember.

There was the animated series incarnation, I don't remember who was in it but it was way different.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...dermanep14.jpg

It was called the Insidious Six in the show actually, and to be painfully obvious it was Doc Ock, Scorpion, Shocker, Rhino, Mysterio and Chameleon

I love that show:y:

some of the villains looked rediculous in that show

Please, do elaborate....

That show was ridiculous anyway.

Anyway...in part 4, i would like to see "The Lizzard" and Scorpion as one of the main villians, maybe have Scorpion turn into Venom at the end of the movie or something.

Then you could have Venom in part 5, let him be in the back ground to make some space for Mysterio and Kraven as main villians, then let part 5 end with Carnage being created.

Part 6 you could have a new version of The Sinister Six, with Venom, Carnage, Raven, Electro and Kraven and Mysterio :p

It will probably never ever happen, but it could be a hot new version of the Six.

This shit could also be the beer talking though.