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Xero 07-27-2007 11:31 AM

You'll never forget the name of.... *Inhale*
 
PLATINUM! *BITE*

Expect Dustin Rhodes to eventually morph into something along the lines of the Goldust persona without using the name. One potential ring name I've heard was "Platinum."

From PWInsider.

Innovator 07-27-2007 11:32 AM

Lame. Lamer than lame.

Loose Cannon 07-27-2007 11:34 AM

Seven.

I would love for them to bring that character back and actually do something with it.

Theo Dious 07-27-2007 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Innovator
Lame. Lamer than lame.

Even lamer than that.

Just to show that TNA has no fucking clue what they're doing.

Xero 07-27-2007 11:44 AM

LOL, I just realized how the "I Still Remember" thing fits into the Goldust "You'll never forget" gimmick...

Kane Knight 07-27-2007 11:44 AM

This is lamer than...

You know, it's really not all that bad.

Erebus 07-27-2007 11:49 AM

This could be interesting I guess, but I thought the Rhodes promo last night was really really bad.

Theo Dious 07-27-2007 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kane Knight
This is lamer than...

You know, it's really not all that bad.

It's further proof that TNA isn't even willing to TRY to get a guy over without rehashing his WWE gimmick. That the closest thing WWE has to real competition can't come up with their own ideas. How is that not bad?

KingofOldSchool 07-27-2007 11:55 AM

Bronzedust.

Anybody Thrilla 07-27-2007 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarthTedious
It's further proof that TNA isn't even willing to TRY to get a guy over without rehashing his WWE gimmick. That the closest thing WWE has to real competition can't come up with their own ideas. How is that not bad?

That's what I'm thinking. Instead of offering a true alternative, they just have watered down material that has already run its course and has a ridiculously stupid name that'll just constantly remind people what it used to be. A six sided ring alone isn't an alternative.

IC Champion 07-27-2007 12:03 PM

Why not have him just be Dustin Runnels, who's losing it becasue of the business and what not. Not some over the top charactor that TNA would have no way to get over.

Kane Knight 07-27-2007 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarthTedious
It's further proof that TNA isn't even willing to TRY to get a guy over without rehashing his WWE gimmick. That the closest thing WWE has to real competition can't come up with their own ideas. How is that not bad?

It's a good thing the rest of wrestling is so original.

FourFifty 07-27-2007 12:25 PM

If this happens I swear to god I'm going to kill someone.

Xero 07-27-2007 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FourFifty
If this happens I swear to god I'm going to kill someone.

If it's the exact same gimmick just with a different name and color what would it matter to a Goldust mark?

FourFifty 07-27-2007 01:47 PM

Would Ric Flair still be Ric Flair if his name was Haywood Jablome?
Would Stone Cold Steve Austin still be Stone Cold Steve Austin if he was The Ice Block Steve Williams?
Would The Rock really be The Rock if his ring name was Dwayne Johnson?
Would Hulkamania really have run wild if he was just Terry in a pair of yellow trunks?
No.

In "Romeo and Juliet" the question is asked "What is in a name?" Everything. The name is the root of who someone is.
If someone asks you who you are you're going to respond with your name, not with a short essay about yourself. You're going to say "I'm Xero Limit 126", not "I'm that one guy with a phantos avatar on tpww.net. My hobbies include long walks on the beach, doing chairty work for the homeless, and kicking kittens."


Maybe I'm looking too deep into this, but I think that name is needed for the persona to really work.
Goldust works with the Hollywood gimmick. The movie quotes, the wide screen intro, the music, everything fits with Goldust. TNA trying to rehash a persona that I mark out for just won't work.

Anybody Thrilla 07-27-2007 01:54 PM

The name's not a HUGE deal, but trying to emulate a past WWE gimmick is just busch league.

IC Champion 07-27-2007 02:02 PM

A name isn't going to make you, but it can kill you.

FourFifty 07-27-2007 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Instant Classic
A name isn't going to make you, but it can kill you.

I'm sure if The Gobbledy Gooker would have been called "Painful Death Bringer" he would have been taken more seriously.

Jordan 07-27-2007 02:20 PM

Im all for it I don't care what they call him it doesn't matter.

Kane Knight 07-27-2007 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla
The name's not a HUGE deal, but trying to emulate a past WWE gimmick is just busch league.

But they ARE busch league. I mean, they've never not been. Their best days do worse than the best days of HEAT, FFS.

BigDaddyCool 07-27-2007 03:22 PM

My question is, why did he turn down coming back to WWE? Dustin Rhodes/Runnels/Golddust is fanstic in WWE, he never fails to entertain me. But outside of WWE, he sucks. Plus, he could come in with his dad and brother and make for interesting tv.

BigDaddyCool 07-27-2007 03:23 PM

Remember when Golddust and Booker T reviewed movies, it was pure awesome.

The MAC 07-27-2007 03:38 PM

Hey goldy was always entertaining. I'd like to see TNA with the same costume but in silver just to stick it to wwe (as if they'd care)

XL 07-27-2007 03:40 PM

I think it's more that WWE doesn't want him due to his recent troubles (no showing, etc).

OR

TNA have snapped him up cos WWE might have come a knocking somewhere down the line.

The MAC 07-27-2007 03:51 PM

rhodes is a boring cunt.Goldust, however is fucking entertaining.

BigDaddyCool 07-27-2007 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XL
I think it's more that WWE doesn't want him due to his recent troubles (no showing, etc).

OR

TNA have snapped him up cos WWE might have come a knocking somewhere down the line.

That is the point, he shouldn't have no showed.

Anybody Thrilla 07-27-2007 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kane Knight
But they ARE busch league. I mean, they've never not been. Their best days do worse than the best days of HEAT, FFS.

I was just thinking maybe they would not WANT to be busch league, though.

Mercury Bullet 07-27-2007 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool
Remember when Golddust and Booker T reviewed movies, it was pure awesome.

Rofl, the best one was when they did "The Scorpion King" and they showed the clip of how Booker T would have done it in the movie.




Found it.

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"Not only am I The Scorpion King but I'm a 5 time WCW Champion, and I got a sword too. Now can you did that, suckaaaaas!!!"

The One 07-27-2007 05:36 PM

Dustin Rhodes, Goldust, Seven, and now I guess Platinum are suck a boring donkey's dick.

Mercury Bullet 07-27-2007 05:41 PM

Another good Bookdust moment:

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Kane Knight 07-27-2007 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla
I was just thinking maybe they would not WANT to be busch league, though.

Maybe, but this is small potatoes in terms of that. When you've had vindictive little men make half-assed anti-Vince jokes, run your entire promotion with bitter castoffs who trash the competition, and most of your stars are established by the other guy, a cheap and derivative name isn't even worth the mention.

I used the analogy before, but it's roughly the equivalent of raping someone, then complaining about a jaywalker.

Anybody Thrilla 07-27-2007 05:57 PM

Yeah, I got you.

Also, LMAO @ fake X-Pac.

loosecollector 07-29-2007 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mercury Bullet
"Not only am I The Scorpion King but I'm a 5 time WCW Champion, and I got a sword too. Now can you did that, suckaaaaas!!!"


The Naitch 07-29-2007 09:00 PM

TNA is lamer than legend85

KayfabeMan 07-29-2007 10:21 PM

I was Goldust for Halloween once.

KayfabeMan 07-29-2007 10:22 PM

I was also Honky Tonk Man for Halloween once.

KayfabeMan 07-29-2007 10:22 PM

I seem to like high mid-carders, and / or IC Champions.

KayfabeMan 07-29-2007 10:22 PM

And also gimmicks.

KayfabeMan 07-29-2007 10:25 PM

With that being said, next Halloween I will be Razor Ramon.

KayfabeMan 07-29-2007 10:25 PM

:shifty:

FourFifty 07-29-2007 10:38 PM

Years ago my brother and I were the Legion of Doom.

Pepsi Man 07-29-2007 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KayfabeMan
With that being said, next Halloween I will be Razor Ramon.

Just as long as you don't try to carve...me...out, chico.

Impact! 07-29-2007 10:51 PM

C'moooon Goldpowder

Kane Knight 07-30-2007 12:47 AM

You will never forget the name of.....

*deep breath*

Mister Goodbar!

The Naitch 07-30-2007 12:48 AM

lol

Vastardikai 07-30-2007 12:53 AM

Mr. Goodbar vs. Chilly McFreeze

Sepholio 07-30-2007 01:45 AM

If they gave him the same gimmick and called him Platinum, could the WWE possibly sue them for copyright infringement? I mean, obviously he wouldn't be an exact copy, but in essence, wouldn't he be close enough to be construed as the same?

Vastardikai 07-30-2007 02:26 AM

Well, WCW tried to give Ray Traylor the gimmick of "The Boss" which drew a lawsuit. Then they tried to give him the gimmick of "The Man." Same result.

Mr. Nerfect 07-30-2007 05:22 AM

I really don't think this is as bad as people are makng it out to be. Given a choice between Dustin Rhodes and Dustin Rhodes in a suit doing what makes him entertaining, I'll choose the suit every time. Sure, it may not be exactly Goldust, but I am confident that Dustin can make this as entertaining as possible.

I also agree with BDC. Goldust would have really made this program with Dusty and Cody interesting. I have been salivating for a normal son (Cody) vs. black sheep (Goldust) for some time.

Sepholio 07-30-2007 05:27 AM

I reckon we'll get Dustin back in WWE sooner or later. Imagine Dusty and Cody Rhodes vs Randy Orton and Bob Orton.....with interference from Golddust. The Rhodes pick up the win, but Dusty and Cody are pissed off at Dustin for not letting them do it legitimately, which leads to a fued between Cody and Dustin.

That would actually be pretty awesome, I reckon.

Kane Knight 07-30-2007 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seph
If they gave him the same gimmick and called him Platinum, could the WWE possibly sue them for copyright infringement? I mean, obviously he wouldn't be an exact copy, but in essence, wouldn't he be close enough to be construed as the same?

Yes, but for some reason it's less likely that a wrestling persona will rsult in a successful character suit. Not to mention how limited recourse is. For example, There was a Captain America knockoff who was sued by Marvel, and it was determined that he was kosher--Providing he didn't throw his shield.

TerranRich 07-31-2007 10:42 AM

Kudos to TNA on their originality. I fully expected Runnels to be named Goldenparticles or something closer. Platinum isn't that bad.

Road Warrior 07-31-2007 01:29 PM

At least it's better than "The American Nightmare". I was kinda wanting him to sign with WWE and fued with Cody. I would've worked him as a face against the "better son" ,Cody, managed by Dusty. They could've made fun of Dustin for the Goldust gimmick and gotten him over. Wold've gotten Cody over too as a heel. Either that or switch it around and have Dustin be the jealous son that is starved for Dusty's attetion.

Jura 07-31-2007 08:36 PM

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OverTaker 07-31-2007 11:22 PM

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AJHayes 08-01-2007 04:12 PM

*deep inhale* Angeldust....


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