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Xero 09-24-2007 11:08 PM

Y2... HB... Wait, what? (RAW Spoilers)
 
Yeah, so RAW had a thing where it was a Matrix-like thing interrupting the screen. It was clearly WWE because it included tron information (raw_bumper.action, etc) with "SAVE_US.222" the most prominently featured.

So, is it Y2J? Has he resigned? I mean, come on, if it isn't they're trying to fuck with us because most people who saw that must have instantly thought "Jericho".

RGWhat316 09-24-2007 11:11 PM

I thought either Jericho or Cyber Sunday. But no idea.

KingofOldSchool 09-24-2007 11:11 PM

I saw Bad Ass and DeGenerate in it too.

Xero 09-24-2007 11:11 PM

I don't think they'd have something that random and abrupt for a PPV promo.

KingofOldSchool 09-24-2007 11:12 PM

I could see it being WWE's own Project 161 type angle.

Xero 09-24-2007 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KingofOldSchool
I saw Bad Ass and DeGenerate in it too.

Yeah, they basically used a file listing of the WWE's production computers.

KingofOldSchool 09-24-2007 11:13 PM

If WWE has Cyber Sunday this year, it will be the 222nd PPV/Closed Circuit show dating back to WM 1.

Xero 09-24-2007 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KingofOldSchool
If WWE has Cyber Sunday this year, it will be the 222nd PPV/Closed Circuit show dating back to WM 1.

Really?

JERICHO WILL SAVE US AT CYBER SUNDAY!

:shifty:

KingofOldSchool 09-24-2007 11:15 PM

Remember Jericho's first WWF/E promo?

He said he came to save the WWF.

Maybe he's going to do it again?

Xero 09-24-2007 11:17 PM

It's exactly like the count down too. I think, if it IS Jericho, it's the perfect way to keep people guessing. It's SORT of like his original debut, but different enough to throw at least some people off, at least until they do it again.

KingofOldSchool 09-24-2007 11:18 PM

I doubt this is about him though.

Xero 09-24-2007 11:19 PM

It would be retarded to do a promo about a PPV that way though. :-\

KingofOldSchool 09-24-2007 11:21 PM

It's probably for a totally new character or something.

Xero 09-24-2007 11:24 PM

Gail Kim.

lol

RGWhat316 09-24-2007 11:25 PM

It damn well could be Jericho. I just went back to look at the tape and frame by frame, I could make out some words. Even if it was really cluttered with letters and numbers. I did make out RAW_WAR, and KOTRqual. Definitely someone from the past.

KingofOldSchool 09-24-2007 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero Limit 126
Gail Kim.

lol

BLOOD RUNS COLD.

Skippord 09-24-2007 11:31 PM

I missed it

HaTeR 09-24-2007 11:36 PM

As did I

A video clip of it would be nice

Mike the Metal Ed 09-24-2007 11:37 PM

I didn't spot it, where abouts in the show was it?

Xero 09-24-2007 11:37 PM

There's nothing really to "see". It's basically just a matrix-like thing with random (WWE-related) text on the screen. Though the music did sound similar to Jericho's too. (Not that that would confirm anything, since a lot of promo music sounds the same.)

It was right after Coach had his press conference, before the final commercial break.

Maluco 09-24-2007 11:41 PM

Its the big return we have been waiting for alright...

The golden haired warrior of the new millenium...

...that man who has had both straps around his waste...






...Its "The Millenium Man" Sid!!!!!

Jordan 09-24-2007 11:41 PM

Look at the pic closely you can see Jericho's outline with the jesus christ pose.

Jordan 09-24-2007 11:42 PM

Or did someone photo shop that?

Blitz 09-24-2007 11:45 PM

I dunno but I am pretty interested.

Jordan 09-24-2007 11:45 PM

COME ON IS THAT PHOTOSHOPED OR WHAT?!?!

BigDaddyCool 09-24-2007 11:47 PM

It is a photoshop you moron.

Ninti the Mad 09-24-2007 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool
It is a photoshop you moron.


ROFL

Xero 09-24-2007 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordan X
Look at the pic closely you can see Jericho's outline with the jesus christ pose.

ROFL, you actually thought the sig I made in 3 minutes was from RAW?

KingofOldSchool 09-24-2007 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero Limit 126
ROFL, you actually thought the sig I made in 3 minutes was from RAW?

LOL, must be the Fragile X.

Ninti the Mad 09-24-2007 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordan X
Look at the pic closely you can see Jericho's outline with the jesus christ pose.


<font size="7"> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH </font>

HaTeR 09-24-2007 11:59 PM

I'd laugh if it was just the return of Shawn Michaels and "Save us" was like a playoff of the christian thing... and you all got excited for nothing.

Xero 09-25-2007 12:04 AM

Here's something interesting. Did a Google Search, came up with 411Mania forums and someone has noted some "clues" from the video, the biggest being "CD_VOLUME4_1". Of course, the first song on Volume 4 is Jericho's theme.

Ninti the Mad 09-25-2007 12:06 AM

Any pics to back that up of the video capture?

BigDaddyCool 09-25-2007 12:06 AM

Did anyone go to save_us.222 yet. It is freaky. No, it is nothing, I'm being a jerk.

Jordan 09-25-2007 12:09 AM

ITS JERICHO JESUUS CHRIST I AM WET

BigDaddyCool 09-25-2007 12:12 AM

Jordan, Jericho can't save wrestling. Vince won't let it happen.

Innovator 09-25-2007 12:13 AM

I hope he's coming back, just for an entertaining minute promo a show

HaTeR 09-25-2007 12:13 AM

I think with the Save Us and the Volume 4 thing, it's beyond obvious it is Jericho.

yay

Ninti the Mad 09-25-2007 12:16 AM

I STILL SEE NO PROVE ABOUT THE VOLUME 4 THING!!!!!!!!!!

BigDaddyCool 09-25-2007 12:17 AM

Actaully the first thing I thought was Glacier. So a matrix/subzero ripoff is coming.

Ninti the Mad 09-25-2007 12:18 AM

Keanu Reeves is going to defeat John Cena.

Xero 09-25-2007 12:21 AM

SAVE_US.222

2+2+2=6

SAVE_US.6

SAVE_US.SYXX?

KingofOldSchool 09-25-2007 12:21 AM

I saw Skittles in the video.

OMG THAT MUST MEAN THE BERRIES N' CREAM GUY IS COMING!!!1111!1

RGWhat316 09-25-2007 12:21 AM

I definitely saw some of the old sponsors in there such as JVC, Skittles, Starburst. And even mentions of Jakked, which is one of the former shows. So all of this is definitely related to someone from the attitude era.

BigDaddyCool 09-25-2007 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero Limit 126
SAVE_US.222

2+2+2=6

SAVE_US.6

SAVE_US.SYXX?

k4l

KingofOldSchool 09-25-2007 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RGWhat316
I definitely saw some of the old sponsors in there such as JVC, Skittles, Starburst. And even mentions of Jakked, which is one of the former shows. So all of this is definitely related to someone from the attitude era.

OMGZ IT'S TEH AHMED JOHNSON

JOO GUNNA BE SMACK DA SHIT BITCH1111!!

Xero 09-25-2007 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RGWhat316
I definitely saw some of the old sponsors in there such as JVC, Skittles, Starburst. And even mentions of Jakked, which is one of the former shows. So all of this is definitely related to someone from the attitude era.

I know 100% that I saw "Livewire", which I believe ended sometime in 1998 or 1999.

KingofOldSchool 09-25-2007 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero Limit 126
I know 100% that I saw "Livewire", which I believe ended sometime in 1998 or 1999.

It's Todd Pentigelll!

Xero 09-25-2007 12:25 AM

I know I also saw "BATS_ASS_(something)".

lol

KingofOldSchool 09-25-2007 12:27 AM

It's the debut of Batista's Kiss My Ass Club.

Xero 09-25-2007 12:27 AM

Could be D'Lo Brown...

Don't have anything to support it, just a thought that popped into my head...

The Naitch 09-25-2007 12:28 AM

I think it's Jericho some new guy that they;ll drop the ball with

HaTeR 09-25-2007 12:29 AM

CHAMP_HARD
SMACK_BROUGHT1
RAW_LOWER_DISP
CD_VOLUME4_1
RAW_WAR_BUMPER
WM99_MATCH
WM00_MATCH
WM99_PROMO
SURVIVOR_RF
LIVEWIRE
TALENT_PRE
BAT_ASS_WEEK
JVC_FIX
SAVE_US.222

Xero 09-25-2007 12:34 AM

Saw this one on the PWInsider Elite boards: WM00_Match_Tri

The Triangle match between Jericho, Angle and some random dude.

Yeah, I got to admit it, I'm a huge fucking geek, gonna go check the video again. :$

The Naitch 09-25-2007 12:34 AM

this is insane

The Naitch 09-25-2007 12:35 AM

It's gotta be Jericho

also

CHAMP_HARD = Hardcore champ?

Volchok 09-25-2007 12:44 AM

Still pictures please.

HaTeR 09-25-2007 12:48 AM

Last week's official Raw Thread:

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarKCentaur
Just got on here.... anybody else notice the "Save us Y2J" sign during the Hardy/Benjamin match?


RGWhat316 09-25-2007 12:49 AM

Ok, I've found video footage, a link from the wrestlecrap boards.
http://video.tinypic.com/player.php?v=102mkqo&s=2

Xero 09-25-2007 12:51 AM

I just want to make it clear that these are mainly just computer files, specifically ones like "catman", "paint/geography", "bookcase", etc. WWE rarely goes to this extent to give people something to talk about. They still have all the old promos, DVDs, etc on the trucks in case they need them. It's more than likely these are just completely random files that just happen to somehow relate to Jericho.

ANYWAY... Just checked the video, and while it's not 100% clear (it's only shown in the background and only noticed one instance) I did see (something)_Volume4_(something).

I also found the following: (x)= wasn't on screen but was obvious)

(R)AW_REV_MAY2
(W)M_DVD_MOVE2A
1998_06:46:25 (This was out of an HTML document. Why they used that date though I don't know.)
3DMATCH

Xero 09-25-2007 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HaTeR
Last week's official Raw Thread:

LOL, holy shit, that's right! I do remember that.

The Fugitive 09-25-2007 12:53 AM

Is this the same video? I found it on TinyPic.

http://video.tinypic.com/player.php?v=102mkqo&s=2

I tried embedding it but not a whole lot of luck doing that.

EDIT: Shit, didn't see RGWhat's post.

Shisen Kopf 09-25-2007 12:53 AM

It's a Chris alright, Chris Benoit! the whole thing was a giant work and his new gimmick will be Chris Benoit, loving father!!

The Naitch 09-25-2007 12:55 AM

Chris Benwho?

Shadow 09-25-2007 12:56 AM

Using my highly trained ear for music I can safetly say....what the fuck was that?

Sounded like a really screwed up version of Y2J's theme song if you listen really really really closely. And there was a part where something seemed missing.

Or I could just be fucking with ya.

HaTeR 09-25-2007 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero Limit 126
(R)AW_REV_MAY2

Anyone know the date when the countdown for Jericho's debut started? That's all I can think of from that.

The Naitch 09-25-2007 12:58 AM

Spoiler below:

It's Maven

Xero 09-25-2007 01:00 AM

I read that if played backwards that it's the theme to Jericho's Original countdown. Well, I've recorded and reversed it, and it does sound an awful lot like it. Gonna try to upload it.

Jura 09-25-2007 01:00 AM

<embed width="440" height="380" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" src="http://v2.tinypic.com/player.swf?file=102mkqo&s=2"></embed>

Ninti the Mad 09-25-2007 01:02 AM

I dunno.

I am not putting my hopes up. Its probably some gay movie they are going to make similar to the dead people stuck in the computers.

RGWhat316 09-25-2007 01:02 AM

Even watching the tape frame-by-frame, it's difficult to really tell. I don't want to get my hopes up too much, but at least they have gotten everyone talking.

The Fugitive 09-25-2007 01:07 AM

Mission accomplished, WWE. You got the interwebs buzzing.

I'm looking at it frame-by-frame as well, probably won't find anything groundbreaking or anything that hasn't been already mentioned but it's a timekiller.

Xero 09-25-2007 01:10 AM

I THINK the theme may actually be a reversed, longer version of Jericho's last countdown.

Blitz 09-25-2007 01:12 AM

Yeah it's is prolly gonna be disappointing so I'mma try and keep my hopes down.

Also lol Jordan X you fool.

Skippord 09-25-2007 01:15 AM

Looks like I'm gonna have to smoke some weed to figure this one out

Xero 09-25-2007 01:17 AM

May 2, 2000. Chris Jericho beat Chris Benoit for the Intercontinental Championship.

The Naitch 09-25-2007 01:19 AM

Quote:

RAW_LOWER_DISP
Has me thinking of unDISPuted champion

Xero 09-25-2007 01:19 AM

And was buried during that reign, thus "Lower".

The Naitch 09-25-2007 01:20 AM

I'd be dissapointed if it was a promo for John Morrison :nono:

The Fugitive 09-25-2007 01:23 AM

I'm stumped on this BAT_ASS_WEEK line. Looking at the frame, it actually looks like BAT_ASS_WEEK1. Week 1 of something shortened to BAT_ASS?

Blitz 09-25-2007 01:29 AM

Or it could just be random shit. There's that too.

Jura 09-25-2007 01:30 AM

I downloaded the .flv and converted to an .avi file if anyone wants it.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/umv3az

The Fugitive 09-25-2007 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blitz
Or it could just be random shit. There's that too.

Yes, I could be looking into it too much.

Anyway, I'm sure if it means something, someone smarter than me will figure it out. :$

weather vane 09-25-2007 02:02 AM

seems like random files from a WWE computer

SammyG 09-25-2007 02:14 AM

OMFFGGGG he is coming back. I am gonna mark out like a mother fucker.

FourFifty 09-25-2007 02:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SammyG
OMFFGGGG he is coming back. I am gonna mark out like a mother fucker.


...mother fucker!


If it's Jericho I swear to god I'll be a good person and not make fun of midgets!

SammyG 09-25-2007 02:42 AM

And Kennedy comin back next week. Jericho and Kennedy on Raw would be siickkk.

Mr. Aristocrat 09-25-2007 04:18 AM

WWE can't book a single wrestling card without giving up half way through and throwing together whatever random shit they can fit together on the scene. You guys are dissecting what is obviously random letters jumbled together to make secret messages like cryptic passages from the holy book or something. Quit giving WWE so much credit.

Skippord 09-25-2007 05:25 AM

Mr Aristocrat :love:

What Would Kevin Do? 09-25-2007 05:43 AM

Good job WWE for doing something interesting. Now let's hope they don't drop the ball, or give it away ala "CHRIS JERICHO RETURNS TO RAW AT SURVIVOR SERIES"

.44 Magdalene 09-25-2007 08:29 AM

BAT_ASS_WEEK made me think of Best Week Ever. I know that's not even close to what it says, I just thought I'd throw that out there.

Fuck you guys. I didn't even watch RAW and I'm getting giddy.

Evil Vito 09-25-2007 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by What Would Kevin Do?
Good job WWE for doing something interesting. Now let's hope they don't drop the ball, or give it away ala "CHRIS JERICHO RETURNS TO RAW AT SURVIVOR SERIES"

<font color=goldenrod>Yeah I want it to be a total surprise.

Of course, the night he returns there will be a million internet leaks to keep it from being a total surprise. I'll still mark like a bitch though.</font> :cool:

What Would Kevin Do? 09-25-2007 09:01 AM

I don't know, they kept the Matt Hardy return under wraps REALLY well.

Also, I thought of Best Week Ever as well... It makes no sense though.

Kane Knight 09-25-2007 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Critic
BAT_ASS_WEEK made me think of Best Week Ever. I know that's not even close to what it says, I just thought I'd throw that out there.

Fuck you guys. I didn't even watch RAW and I'm getting giddy.

Bat_Ass_Week clearly refers to when Sting and JEricho were a couple.

Dave Youell 09-25-2007 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by What Would Kevin Do?
I don't know, they kept the Matt Hardy return under wraps REALLY well.

Also, I thought of Best Week Ever as well... It makes no sense though.

None of it does,

This video could just be generic to bring back anyone, there are so many hidden messages you can make it look to be whatever you want it to be.

There was WM_99 in it, Rocky main evented that show, could be the Rock

REDRUM?

Edge, Lashley, Kennedy

There's so much hashed HTML code there it could be anyone.

It's got me interested, so it's served a purpose, could it be Jericho? Yes, do I want that? Yes. Are we always set up for a fall whenever anything remotley cool could happen? Of course we are!

So just have low expectations of this and enjoy the re-introduction of bastian booger

Dave Youell 09-25-2007 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kane Knight
Bat_Ass_Week clearly refers to when Sting and JEricho were a couple.

There's been loads of re incarnations of the Batman cartoon, maybe they realized porn was the next logical step?

Bat_Ass_Week, All next week, on USA!

Kane Knight 09-25-2007 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Youell
None of it does,

This video could just be generic to bring back anyone, there are so many hidden messages you can make it look to be whatever you want it to be.

There was WM_99 in it, Rocky main evented that show, could be the Rock

REDRUM?

Edge, Lashley, Kennedy

There's so much hashed HTML code there it could be anyone.

It's got me interested, so it's served a purpose, could it be Jericho? Yes, do I want that? Yes. Are we always set up for a fall whenever anything remotley cool could happen? Of course we are!

So just have low expectations of this and enjoy the re-introduction of bastian booger

How could REDRUM equal Edge, Kennedy or Lashley?

I'm pretty sure Y2J actually used the "REDRUM" line a couple of times.

In any event, I think people are mostly seeing Jericho because they want to, and there are rumors of his return.

BigDaddyCool 09-25-2007 09:58 AM

I saw something about BBQ Sauce. JR is returning to the ring.

blake639raw 09-25-2007 10:20 AM

Johnny the Bull Stamboli has a gimmick now on the indy scene named REDRUM. I heard he got a tryout a few weeks back. It could be him. He'd be a cool feud for Boogeyman maybe.

http://www.onlineworldofwrestling.co...thebull/15.jpg

Kane Knight 09-25-2007 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero Limit 126
ROFL, you actually thought the sig I made in 3 minutes was from RAW?

To be fair, they probably made the video in about the same time, so the belief it was genuine WWE? ;)


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