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KayfabeMan 03-03-2004 05:00 PM

ROH's Feinstein A Pedophile?
 
I just got an IM from a friend who showed me a site called

www.perverted-justice.com

On the site there is a story about RF Video/ROH Owner Rob
Feinstein,supposedly proving that he is a pedophile,and the
article mentions it will be on local Phili news broadcasts.

I say supposedly because I don't know how legit it is or not,
but from what I've found on the net,they (the site) are 100%
legit. I just suspect it may be a work considering that there
are a thousand stories that are made up about Rob, but then
there are another thousand that are true.

Champion of Europa 03-03-2004 05:26 PM

Rob Harvey is gonna love this.

CANADIAN 03-03-2004 05:30 PM

Is Rob Feinstein aa jackass or something?

Mikey 03-03-2004 06:26 PM

alot of sick people out there

StrongMad 03-03-2004 06:29 PM

...

Mr. Monday Morning 03-03-2004 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CANADIAN
Is Rob Feinstein aa jackass or something?

His running of RFVideo has made him his fair share of enemies

CANADIAN 03-03-2004 06:55 PM

How has he ran it and gained enemies?

mitch_h 03-03-2004 07:11 PM

Hmmm and for some reason I wasn't shocked after hearing this..

Mr. Monday Morning 03-03-2004 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CANADIAN
How has he ran it and gained enemies?

Basically he takes a very dim view of anyone copying or selling copies of RF tapes, even though he himself uses the wrestling companies source material to make the tapes in the first place. I'm pretty sure he's threatened legal action against a number of people in the past and gotten sites shut down, among other things.

I'm not 100% on the details, Rob (Harvey) can tell you a lot more than I can.

CANADIAN 03-03-2004 07:28 PM

So he gets pissed for peeps selling footage that he sells from Japan withouth paying for it... What a ass.

KayfabeMan 03-03-2004 07:33 PM

Here you go:

http://www.nbc10.com/news/2893839/detail.html

If you live in Phili,try to check it and send some word back.

Mr. Monday Morning 03-03-2004 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CANADIAN
So he gets pissed for peeps selling footage that he sells from Japan withouth paying for it... What a ass.

Well it's not just Japan, it's pretty much most of the major feds in the US as well, so when you consider he's bootlegging WWF/E stuff and then getting mad when people bootleg his bootlegs...well yeah.

CANADIAN 03-03-2004 07:46 PM

I just read the whole thing.. ****ed up! So he must be bi too because Missy Hyatt did a shoot on him and said he was gay or something.. Anyway I wonder if this will ruin ROH?

Mr. Monday Morning 03-03-2004 08:02 PM

PardayyBrand [11:01 PM]: so do you butt ****
PardayyBrand [11:02 PM]: k im sorry i just wanted to know if it hurts
RFWrestling [11:02 PM]: lolol
RFWrestling [11:02 PM]: lol
RFWrestling [11:03 PM]: its ok
RFWrestling [11:03 PM]: i used to fear it
RFWrestling [11:03 PM]: and scared to do it
RFWrestling [11:03 PM]: only did it 4 times
RFWrestling [11:03 PM]: it rocks

LOL holy shit

Ricky 03-03-2004 08:09 PM

LOL

CANADIAN 03-03-2004 11:30 PM

Anyone see it? This could ruin Feinstein and ROH!

Corkscrewed 03-04-2004 12:25 AM

...maybe. Pretty stupid either way.

Funky Fly 03-04-2004 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KayfabeMan
Here you go:

http://www.nbc10.com/news/2893839/detail.html

If you live in Phili,try to check it and send some word back.

1 in 5 children on the internet are solicited by pedophiles? Damn...

Dave Youell 03-04-2004 02:52 AM

here's anonther report from PWinsider:

» Reported by Scott Williams of WrestleView.com
» On Thursday, March 4, 2004 at 1:21 AM EST

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

-In a bizarre piece of news, Ring of Honor promoter and possible partial owner Rob Feinstein was a subject of an undercover sting operation by Channel 10 news in Philadelphia to find men who use the internet to seek underage partners.

The investigation conducted by Channel 10 was partnered with Perverted-Justice.com, a website that goes into chatrooms and poses as underage children to find what they call "online sexual predators". Channel 10 reported that Feinstein came to the sting location to meet with what he thought was going to be a fourteen year old boy he met online. Footage showed Feinstein running away from the font door to his vehicle when a Channel 10 reporter answered the door instead of the boy that told Feinstein he was home alone.

The piece also showed two other men that came to the sting location who thought they were going to be meeting with a fourteen year old girl. Before finishing the coverage, Channel 10 identified Feinstein as "Robert Feinstein", a Langhorne businesssman that promotes wrestling events. They also showed pictures of him, including one at an event from his website. According to his chat log, he indeed thought he was meeting with a fourteen year old boy. The investigative team went to Feinstein's home and office to seek comment, but he did not make himself available.

At the end of the piece, the reporter said that some subjects of the sting claimed that they would get help, while in other cases law enforcement officials would be making some arrests.

To read a transcript of Feinstein's alleged online conversation click here.

Credit: Dave Scherer @ PWInsider.com

KayfabeMan 03-04-2004 09:25 AM

Supposedly - according to "The Torch",Feinstein is rumored to be (no
pun intended) pulling out of ROH, and RFVideo will be closing down. If
that happens, ROH will lose a lot of profit from RFVideo, and might be
put in jeopardy.

Cactus Sid 03-04-2004 09:36 AM

I read this on the Observer site, what a fu</>ck up, and he keeps disrespecting the wrestlers at Ring Of Honor as well (he even says he owns Pro Wrestling Guerrilla)

Paedophilia is a disgrace, and I am sickened by this, I also feel really sorry for the Ring Of Honor guys, because as said above, it could seriously jeopardise the future of the company.

KayfabeMan 03-04-2004 10:47 AM

Since this thread is about such a topic,I will use this time to test
my new sig (it's only a joke - so no comments) :lol: :lol:

Paranoid Rattlesnake 03-04-2004 10:49 AM

PAEDO PAEDO PAEDO PAEDO

He'll be way over with the crowd

Splaya 03-04-2004 12:53 PM

RFWrestling [10:43 PM]: as soon as i told him he needed to get a job
RFWrestling [10:44 PM]: he got intoa fight with me over something stupd and said he wanted to move back home
RFWrestling [10:44 PM]: hes young also
RFWrestling [10:44 PM]: just turned 20
RFWrestling [10:44 PM]: was 18 when we met
RFWrestling [10:44 PM]: yea well he dropped out
RFWrestling [10:44 PM]: lol
PardayyBrand [10:44 PM]: he didnt go to college
RFWrestling [10:44 PM]: he looks like aaron carter
RFWrestling [10:44 PM]: no hes stupid lol
RFWrestling [10:44 PM]: we have not talked in 2 months
RFWrestling [10:44 PM]: for real
RFWrestling [10:44 PM]: we lived togeth for like 2 years
RFWrestling [10:44 PM]: talked EVERYDAY
RFWrestling [10:45 PM]: hing 24-7 and poof all gone
RFWrestling [10:45 PM]: i cired for like a month stragight
RFWrestling [10:45 PM]: straight


What a pussy

Splaya 03-04-2004 12:57 PM

RFWrestling [10:53 PM]: me and eddy guerreo


Didn't even spell his name right

Splaya 03-04-2004 12:58 PM

Yeah Rf video's website is offline. It said the topic and page have been deleted.

Sucks for ROH because now they are really going downhill.

CANADIAN 03-04-2004 01:01 PM

Still they are publically humiliating a dude who needs help... This is ****ed up for ROH.

Splaya 03-04-2004 01:11 PM

Yeah he needs help. Let those boys in the state prison have a go with him. Then we will see how gay he wants to be and how he wants to prey on 14 yr olds.

Boondock Saint 03-04-2004 01:13 PM

He talks like a girl online, wtf

Splaya 03-04-2004 01:13 PM

PardayyBrand [11:42 PM]: show me on map
RFWrestling [11:42 PM]: just for the drive
RFWrestling [11:42 PM]: ******* ( he gave a neighbors house number ?how kind?but we found him 2 doors down. )




The parentheses is the editor of perverted-justice saying that. god what a ****ing dumbass he was.

Mr. Monday Morning 03-04-2004 01:15 PM

I bought a tape off him in person once :o

Splaya 03-04-2004 01:16 PM

RFWrestling [1:06 PM]: cool
RFWrestling [1:06 PM]: can u call me real quick
PardayyBrand [1:07 PM]: k
RFWrestling [1:08 PM]: 215 9498708 (JusticeBot makes round 1 of phone calls...rock on Bot....oh, and this is his direct line at work )


Someone take one for the team :shifty: Damn it, where is carrington when we really need him.

Splaya 03-04-2004 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Monday Morning
I bought a tape off him in person once :o


Gay porn or straight porn?

Splaya 03-04-2004 01:21 PM

RFWrestling [1:29 PM]: why are u nervous
PardayyBrand [1:29 PM]: cuz u might be not like who u say u are and not the guy in the pics or the guy i talked to and i like you
RFWrestling [1:30 PM]: oh trust me that is me ( oh we know...the plates on your 70K Lexus you drove to pick up Brandon trace back to RF Video....the company you own! )


I don't whether to laugh or just wonder how truly dumb he was.

The Mackem 03-04-2004 01:31 PM

So how do you know that it was hima actually talking via the internet?

KayfabeMan 03-04-2004 01:41 PM

Mackem,if you mean Feinstein,they know it was him because he showed
up to pick "the kid" up from "his house"....

Mr. Monday Morning 03-04-2004 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by splaya
Gay porn or straight porn?

Whichever your mother is involved in

CANADIAN 03-04-2004 03:09 PM

*Oh snap.

The Mackem 03-04-2004 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KayfabeMan
Mackem,if you mean Feinstein,they know it was him because he showed
up to pick "the kid" up from "his house"....

If it was me, I'd defend myself by saying "One of my mates phoned up and said that there was a party" at said address and then deny the internet conversation and say it was a mate mucking about.

You wouldn't think there would be much evidence against him unless they had a set of matching I.P address.

I don't even know the guy anyway past knowing that he is the owner of RoH so :-\

CANADIAN 03-04-2004 03:42 PM

There have been other rumours that he is gay.

Rob 03-04-2004 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Champion of Europa
Rob Harvey is gonna love this.

Oh how well you know me.

I think someone forget to tell me it was Christmas today because I can't believe this news.

I couldn't be any happier for that fu</>cking piece of sh</>it. I think I speak for every single one of the wrestling fans around the world who you screwed out of money or the other tape traders you ratted on to the feds when you broke the same laws they did when I say - Fagstein - ROT IN HELL YOU CUM STAINED ASS MONKEY!!!

BYE BYE RING OF HONOR

BYE BYE RF VIDEO

Today is a very good day.

CANADIAN 03-04-2004 04:02 PM

Who exactly did he screw over? Give me like a complete history of why you hate Feinstein?

Rob 03-04-2004 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Mackem
If it was me, I'd defend myself by saying "One of my mates phoned up and said that there was a party" at said address and then deny the internet conversation and say it was a mate mucking about.

You wouldn't think there would be much evidence against him unless they had a set of matching I.P address.

I don't even know the guy anyway past knowing that he is the owner of RoH so :-\

Seriously Mackem, no offence dude but you really are a stupid bastard :p

They had I.P's, they have phone conversations recorded, they have his AOL account, they have his work details and most importantly of all, THEY HAVE HIM ON VIDEO TAPE COMING TO THE HOUSE IN HIS CAR!!!

How much more proof do you need?

Rob 03-04-2004 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CANADIAN
Who exactly did he screw over? Give me like a complete history of why you hate Feinstein?

Me personally - He took money for tapes off me and the tapes were sh</>iter than sh</>it and then attempted to bump me for a very rare tape I sold him. Lucky enough he doesn't know how to use the internet (and didn't we find that out!) because he sent Gabe Sapalozy (or whatever that dicks name is) and an email saying he was gonna screw me over and then sent that email to me!

I also don't like the way he grassed on tape traders for selling his tapes even though he never copyrighted them and he personally was breaking every copyright law in the book.

It's a whole long thing. Missy Hyatt told me about him ages ago as did New Jack. I think Bob Barnett might be happier than me so I'm going over to his message boards www.bobbarnett.com to read his great work. Oh yeah, Bob is a great guy who sells tapes and knows every law in the book so check him out.

Rob 03-04-2004 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Monday Morning
I bought a tape off him in person once :o

I told you about him then too :D

Rob 03-04-2004 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cactus Sid
I read this on the Observer site, what a fu</>ck up, and he keeps disrespecting the wrestlers at Ring Of Honor as well (he even says he owns Pro Wrestling Guerrilla)

Paedophilia is a disgrace, and I am sickened by this, I also feel really sorry for the Ring Of Honor guys, because as said above, it could seriously jeopardise the future of the company.

As far as I'm concerned, if anyone works for him or goes to his shows then they are supporting Fagstein so they can drop dead too. Stepping down from the company? He owes it! He'll make money anyway just without a salary.

Mr. Monday Morning 03-04-2004 04:33 PM

Regardless of Feinstein himself I hope RoH survives, it's not really fair to tarnish the promotion and its workers with the same brush.

KayfabeMan 03-04-2004 04:34 PM

Rob said it all... :)

I hope some of the regulars at ROH will think twice about working
with them now.There is plenty of other work available with groups
like 3PW, CZW, HWA,etc... Alot of these guys are WAY too good
to have their names associated with a **** like Feinstein,and his
newly tainted ROH brand.

I hope they don't arrest Feinstein,just for the simple fact that he
would enjoy getting ****ed by some big black guy named Riddick.

I will now close by quoting:

"ROT IN HELL YOU CUM STAINED ASS MONKEY!!!

BYE BYE RING OF HONOR - BYE BYE RF VIDEO

Today is a very good day"

CANADIAN 03-04-2004 04:35 PM

Rob are you interested in a tape trade?

CANADIAN 03-04-2004 04:36 PM

TNA will maybe be gaining some talent.

Rob 03-04-2004 04:46 PM

http://img24.photobucket.com/albums/...thleticguy.jpg

Pictures speak a thousand words.

http://mswrestlingnation.com/barbwiremike/RFexposed.wmv

AND

http://www.combat-honor.com/downloads/RF.wmv

Rob 03-04-2004 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Monday Morning
Regardless of Feinstein himself I hope RoH survives, it's not really fair to tarnish the promotion and its workers with the same brush.

He owes the company so I'm tarnishing it. I know if he was my boss, I'd quit the company.

Splaya 03-04-2004 04:51 PM

You know Rob, not that I didn't before, but i have a lot more respect towards you because of what has happened. At least you didn't come in saying ****ing cock fagstein you deserve to die. Have you had a chance to read the whol conversation to truly learn what a sick bastard this guy was?

Rob 03-04-2004 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KayfabeMan
I hope some of the regulars at ROH will think twice about working
with them now.There is plenty of other work available with groups
like 3PW, CZW, HWA,etc... Alot of these guys are WAY too good
to have their names associated with a **** like Feinstein,and his
newly tainted ROH brand.

I hope they don't arrest Feinstein,just for the simple fact that he
would enjoy getting ****ed by some big black guy named Riddick.

Rob Feinstein - "Hell in a Cell" REAL soon pal!

The Meanie and Jasmine might be as happy as me too.

Rob 03-04-2004 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by splaya
You know Rob, not that I didn't before, but i have a lot more respect towards you because of what has happened. At least you didn't come in saying ****ing cock fagstein you deserve to die. Have you had a chance to read the whol conversation to truly learn what a sick bastard this guy was?

Well I know he was gay all along but that's not the problem. Paul Heyman is gay but nobody cares. Aside from the odd joke, nobody bothers Pat Patterson. Jim Barnett promoted for years sucessfully and he is a raging homo. After what went on in the WWF in the 1980's, people would be hypocrites if they treated Fagstain any other way.

I read the convo and watched the video clips. He'll get his REAL soon.

Loose Cannon 03-04-2004 05:00 PM

Wow, that guy looks and sounds like a fk'n assclown

Ricky 03-04-2004 05:04 PM

So who's taking the "ROH ARE PAEDO'S" signs to Wrestlemania then? :D

Ricky 03-04-2004 05:05 PM

LMAO look at the fat bloke sat next to him.

"What the fu</>ck :wtf: "

CANADIAN 03-04-2004 05:06 PM

Heyman's gay.. Has that been confirmed?

Rob 03-04-2004 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ricky
So who's taking the "ROH ARE PAEDO'S" signs to Wrestlemania then? :D

That would RULE!

Rob 03-04-2004 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CANADIAN
Heyman's gay.. Has that been confirmed?

No. I probably should have stressed that but the only person I have heard ever insist he isn't is Missy Hyatt funny enough. I have spoke to guys who worked for him and they say he is gay. It's been a rumour for years though.

Mr. Monday Morning 03-04-2004 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob
He owes the company so I'm tarnishing it. I know if he was my boss, I'd quit the company.

He doesn't own any part of it now, he's sold his interest to Sapolsky. RF now has nothing to do with RoH whatsoever.

Rob 03-04-2004 05:21 PM

Okay I've heard he just stepped down and nothing about selling his share. I don't like Gabe either but I'll take it back if it's 100% confirmed he sold his sh</>it.

Nowhere Man 03-04-2004 05:34 PM

It's always good to see a disgusting sack of shit like Feinstein get what's coming to him. Now if only we can get him murdered in prison...

Anyways, that sick f</>uck aside, I really hope RoH can bounce back from that. Bad owners or not, they did put on some pretty quality shows.

Mr. Monday Morning 03-04-2004 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob
Okay I've heard he just stepped down and nothing about selling his share. I don't like Gabe either but I'll take it back if it's 100% confirmed he sold his sh</>it.

Well, I can't find it confirmed anywhere atm but I imagine if he's resigning he either won't be able to or won't want to hold onto his share..

CANADIAN 03-04-2004 05:56 PM

Atleast he has had enough kindness to not close ROH.

Ricky 03-04-2004 06:06 PM

He is stepping down. This just posted on rohwrestling.com:

The following statement is from Robert Feinstein:

"It is with deep regret that I step down as partner of Ring Of Honor Inc. and President of RF Video Inc.

Due to recent allegations that have been lodged against me it is in the best interest of both companies that until these allegations are resolved that I step down to avoid tarnishing the excellent reputation that has been built over the years of both companies."

RF Video and Ring Of Honor will continue normal operations without interruptions.

Mr. Monday Morning 03-04-2004 06:15 PM

Yeah but it doesn't explicitly state he's sold his share.

Like I said though, I imagine he either has or will do.

Funky Fly 03-04-2004 06:18 PM

Well, at least he has the decency to give up his positions, if that counts for anything.

Sick bastard is what he is. :nono:

Rob 03-04-2004 06:34 PM

"NOTE: LOW KI is not nor will be a representative of Ring of Honor Wrestling or its parent company, R F Video. LOW KI does not support either party. "

Well one person has some morals.

ROH is dead anyways. The money to support it came from RF Video and that is over now.

Mr. Monday Morning 03-04-2004 06:36 PM

Hey CoE, check out Scotsman, you could win yourself a pretty penny ;)

Meanwhile...

http://www.saverob.net

:wtf:

Mr. Monday Morning 03-04-2004 06:39 PM

Last I checked Low Ki hadn't worked for RoH for a good few months and wasn't scheduled to anyway after blowing them off (no pun intended ;) ) for Zero-One...

Rob 03-04-2004 06:44 PM

Nothing he said was really sexual. The only things that were, were questions. He never said that he wanted to have sex with this imposter. And the "meeting" that Perverted Justice says they were to have was just to hang out. Why they seem to think otherwise, when the "Rob" character in the IM said repeatedly that this "14 y/o boy" was too young is beyond me. Perhaps he wanted to be a good role model?

Er... he had phone conversations saying he was coming to his house... AND THEN HE SHOWED UP. Jesus, some people will deny anything. Nothing sexual, he constantly called the pic of kid the guys sent "hot" and was practically creaming his pants. He also asked "the kid" what sexual acts he did with men and mentioned he was gay and told him to lie about his age.

Feinstein is going down quicker than a cheap hooker.

Rob 03-04-2004 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Monday Morning
Last I checked Low Ki hadn't worked for RoH for a good few months and wasn't scheduled to anyway after blowing them off (no pun intended ;) ) for Zero-One...

Actually they confirmed they wanted to bring him back. They said they'd never bring back Teddy Hart and he is back too.

Edit - Low Ki worked for ROH on Feb 14th.

mitch_h 03-04-2004 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob
Actually they confirmed they wanted to bring him back. They said they'd never bring back Teddy Hart and he is back too.


Yea I was getting all excited for Low Ki's return :o. Where did you pick up that quote Rob. Not questioning you or anything...just curious.

Rob 03-04-2004 07:09 PM

Low Ki's website

mitch_h 03-04-2004 07:37 PM

Cool... have you read that CM Punk interview yet?

http://chicagowrestling.com/AL/punkfeinstein.htm

Rob 03-04-2004 07:46 PM

Could care less about him but I read it. He is more interested in working the internet and seems a bit jealous that Teddy Hart seems to be doing a better job of it than anyone.

Paranoid Rattlesnake 03-05-2004 07:31 AM

http://www.crazymax.org/AA1.jpg

KayfabeMan 03-05-2004 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paranoid Rattlesnake

Usually KIDS go door to door Trick-Or-Treating...Rob thought he'd
be helpful and let kids stay home - by bringing his sugar to kids :shifty:

Blue Demon 03-05-2004 10:28 AM

one word: SICK

Rob 03-06-2004 01:39 PM

Sean Edmunds can fu</>ck off right now. The wanker got caught red handed. Your little kiddie fiddling pal got his after years of fu</>cking others over.

Tell Fagstein to write to us when he is in jail. We'll all be watching his shoot interviews and ROH shows - Bootleg copies of course.

Rob 03-06-2004 01:47 PM

Bobby Heenan has also cancelled all his ROH dates.

(I think Fagstein broke the Code of Honor)

Rob 03-06-2004 01:54 PM

It doesn't border on libel because it's true.

And even if it does, go ahead and sue me!

HeartBreakMan2k 03-06-2004 01:59 PM

It's good to see people with morals canceling their dates. RoH was never great. They saw who had good chemistry in other companies and booked them to do it again in RoH. Feinstein is an ass, from RF video to the way he handled his buisness habbits in RoH. Glad he's getting his.

HeartBreakMan2k 03-06-2004 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saverob
and the validity of their claims.

-sean

How are there questions about the claimis, they've got evidence if I'm not losing my mind.

Rob 03-06-2004 02:04 PM

ROH was good because of the boys. That's it. The storylines sucked, the promotion sucked and everything good thing about it can be credited to the guys in the ring.

And don't call Feinstein "an ass". That's very unkind to asses all around the world who you have labeled along side that piece of rat spunk.

Rob 03-06-2004 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HeartBreakKid2k
How are there questions about the claimis, they've got evidence if I'm not losing my mind.

Maybe he went all that way to the house just to mail some Ring Of Paedophiles tapes. :roll:

Hey, we all know why he was there. Nobody has given any possible reason why he was there other than to get some 14 year old cock.

Kane Knight 03-06-2004 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saverob
First off, everything that has surround Rob Feinstein needs to be looked at with a critical eye.

I know that since Rob has made many people angry that this is not easy for most.

But that does not negate the fact that the website has impeded on some of his civil liberties. The site borders on being slanderous / libel..

There are questions all around about the way they go about their business, and the validity of their claims.

-sean

Please explain how his civil liberties are being violated.

Also, when you have something to back up your statements, it's not libel.

Libel applies only to deliberate falsehoods (though some times unintentional falsehoods are admitted by the courts, generally itt has to be deliberately malicious).

If there was no foundation of evidence, you might be right.

HeartBreakMan2k 03-06-2004 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob
ROH was good because of the boys. That's it. The storylines sucked, the promotion sucked and everything good thing about it can be credited to the guys in the ring.

Exactly. ROH wouldn't have been anything had it not been for the great caliber of talent they were able to get. Like you said, the storylines were a joke.

Quote:

And don't call Feinstein "an ass". That's very unkind to asses all around the world who you have labeled along side that piece of rat spunk.
Touche.

Rob 03-06-2004 02:09 PM

Don't waste your breathe trying to talk sense to this mizark KK. If you could, do you think he seriously have a website uo?

And that dickhead actually mocked Rob Black! The nerve of it.

HeartBreakMan2k 03-06-2004 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saverob
The "proposed" evidence is neither concrete nor objective. The AIM conversation, the "phone call" transcript written from memory, the mobile IM conversation are all subject to tampering. The same can be said about the fact that he showed up at the house. Of course the news people were under the impression a "wannabe pedophile" was on their way, but we have no evidence, besides the possible tampered IM conversations, about why he was heading there. The reason for his fleet could be attributed to any number of reasons. Once again the newstateion and the website do not allow you to look at it objectively, but instead attempt to force their interpretation on the viewer.

Pervertedjustice's site, their actions, and their claims are all based on "proposed" evidence. And until this "evidence" can be verified, it is not fact.

You're one of those people who still believe there are weapons of mass destruction, even though none have been found after all this time, aren't you?

Rob 03-06-2004 02:28 PM

Yeah even though Rob Feinstein of all people shows up at your front door without video tapes in his hands and then bolts like a Vampire subjected to sunlight when a TV camera shoots him, it is innocent though. Was he pissed it wasn't one of his own cameras? Shame he never got this on his shoot interview isn't it.

Kane Knight 03-06-2004 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob
Don't waste your breathe trying to talk sense to this mizark KK. If you could, do you think he seriously have a website uo?

And that dickhead actually mocked Rob Black! The nerve of it.

You've got a point.s

Loose Cannon 03-06-2004 02:29 PM

Wow, where did this guy crawl out from? And lol at Fagstein Rob

Kane Knight 03-06-2004 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by saverob
The "proposed" evidence is neither concrete nor objective. The AIM conversation, the "phone call" transcript written from memory, the mobile IM conversation are all subject to tampering. The same can be said about the fact that he showed up at the house. Of course the news people were under the impression a "wannabe pedophile" was on their way, but we have no evidence, besides the possible tampered IM conversations, about why he was heading there. The reason for his fleet could be attributed to any number of reasons. Once again the newstateion and the website do not allow you to look at it objectively, but instead attempt to force their interpretation on the viewer.

Pervertedjustice's site, their actions, and their claims are all based on "proposed" evidence. And until this "evidence" can be verified, it is not fact.

Yes, and the footage of the Oklahoma City bombing was all doctored. That building is still standing and nobody died.

It's all subjective.

HeartBreakMan2k 03-06-2004 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Kane Knight
Yes, and the footage of the Oklahoma City bombing was all doctored. That building is still standing and nobody died.

It's all subjective.

According to some the holocaust never happened either... maybe he's one of those people

Rob 03-06-2004 02:32 PM

I can't take credit for Fagstein. One of the boys (could have been me though, I honestly don't remember) in the original (Wrestling) Observer Live Chat called him that in 2001 and it stuck ever since. It's also made it's way to practically every wrestling message board on the net.

Rob 03-06-2004 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by HeartBreakKid2k
According to some the holocaust never happened either... maybe he's one of those people

Funny enough, I was in a pub in Dundee at New Years and some guy was convinced only about 250 people died in gas chambers. Needless to say, he was mocked until closing time.

HeartBreakMan2k 03-06-2004 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob
Funny enough, I was in a pub in Dundee at New Years and some guy was convinced only about 250 people died in gas chambers. Needless to say, he was mocked until closing time.

LOL


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