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KYR 12-02-2007 09:37 PM

Wrestling Holds/Finishers you just don’t see anymore
 
Apologies if this has been done recently.

While writing my first post and reminiscing about all those Old-School wrestlers, I started thinking about Killer Karl Kox.

KKK was my favourite heel as a kid and his “devastating” finisher was the Brain Buster.

For those of you who don’t know the BB, picture a vertical suplex but rather than having your opponent fall on his back, he landed on his head.

Invariably, the medics then had to come to the ring and stretcher out his opponent. Next week, his opponent would show up in a neck brace vowing to get revenge once they got better and selling the “injury” (of course, if Cena had've been around in those days he would've got straight up).:roll:

I remember at the live shows the very audible gasps from the crowd :eek: as KKK lifted his opponent into the air and suspended him there before delivering the final blow. Of all the heels, I reckon KKK was the most hated of his time simply because of his signature move.

Was it dangerous? No doubt...if performed by amateurs. But I don’t ever recall a mishap or real injury resulting from KKK performing this move.

There aren’t that many moves that involve dropping your opponent directly on his head. Tombstone (where most of the time, you can see the head miss the mat by miles) and to some degree the DDT (same) are a couple.

But I haven’t seen the BB since the days of KKK which prompts me to ask what other moves have disappeared.

ddpBANG 12-02-2007 09:41 PM

Eddie, Chavo and Benoit all used to do brainbusters.

ozzman6669 12-02-2007 09:42 PM

Eddie done this move alot. He did it to Rey on the stairs.

Nark Order 12-02-2007 09:45 PM

The abdominal stretch.

Xero 12-02-2007 09:46 PM

Steiner Screwdrivers.

Nark Order 12-02-2007 09:47 PM

The mexican surfboard was badass but I haven't seen it in years. The one where the guy is lifted into the air.

KYR 12-02-2007 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Narcissus (Post 1949857)
The abdominal stretch.

:lol: One of the lamest holds ever. Who was it recently that applied it to HBK (I think) while he was sitting on the mat? Was it the master of the rest hold?

Jordan 12-02-2007 10:00 PM

Has to be the piledriver.

Inadequacy 12-02-2007 10:02 PM

I liked the brainbuster Kid Kash used

Nark Order 12-02-2007 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Know Your Role (Post 1949869)
:lol: One of the lamest holds ever. Who was it recently that applied it to HBK (I think) while he was sitting on the mat? Was it the master of the rest hold?

Remember when heel tag teams used to hold each others arm for leverage on the abdominal stretch when the ref wasn't looking? That was golden.

Xero 12-02-2007 10:08 PM

Haven't seen a DVD in WWE for a while...

Plenty of Fireman's Carries, though.

Xero 12-02-2007 10:09 PM

Also, F5. Probably my favorite move of all time. :y:

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Nark Order 12-02-2007 10:11 PM

The moss covered 3 handled family gredenzul

Xero 12-02-2007 10:13 PM

ARMBAR!

Shadow 12-02-2007 10:55 PM

YOu just made this thread to type KKK over and over again didn't you?

JEW HATER!

Personally? I miss the varity of piledrivers the WWE used to have. Now they have...one.

JT 12-02-2007 11:05 PM

Shattered Dreams. :shifty:

You know, this one may sound a bit stupid...but I miss the Torture Rack. Not it's user, just the move.

Funky Fly 12-02-2007 11:10 PM

The Orange Crush Bomb.

KYR 12-02-2007 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow (Post 1949964)
YOu just made this thread to type KKK over and over again didn't you?

JEW HATER!

Personally? I miss the varity of piledrivers the WWE used to have. Now they have...one.

You know, it never entered my mind. The Klan is non-existent over here.

Apologies to any African-American or Jewish (450) members who may have been offended.

As for being a "Jew Hater", that's not even worthy of a rebuttal. There are very few people I actually hate. I dislike a hell of a lot of people though.

Funky Fly 12-02-2007 11:57 PM

He;s fucking with you.

Fox 12-03-2007 12:04 AM

Crippler Crossface; nobody can see it. WWE censors out everything with Chris Benoit in it.

Bada psh!

Shadow 12-03-2007 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Funky Fly (Post 1950062)
He;s fucking with you.

....I hate you Funky! I HATE YOU SO MUCH!

Nah, I'm kidding ya. I loves me the blacks! Especially if they're Canadian.

thedamndest 12-03-2007 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fox (Post 1950072)
Crippler Crossface; nobody can see it. WWE censors out everything with Chris Benoit in it.

Bada psh!

I thought HBK used that at Survivor Series.

You never see the Bushwhacker Battering Ram anymore:shifty:

KYR 12-03-2007 01:54 AM

Gee. No one's mentioned THE MOST ELECTRIFYING MOVE IN SPORTS ENTERTAINMENT

Yeah, I know, I'll get back in my box.

Jeritron 12-03-2007 02:02 AM

Jericho's hurricanrana to a sitting opponent on the top rope

Tazz's style of suplexes

Rey's hurricanrana follow through under the legs for a sit down pin. I like that time that he never used on Orton who he never pinned to win a non existant title

SammyG 12-03-2007 02:08 AM

SSP

JT 12-03-2007 02:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Know Your Role (Post 1950147)
Gee. No one's mentioned THE MOST ELECTRIFYING MOVE IN SPORTS ENTERTAINMENT

Yeah, I know, I'll get back in my box.

...and I'll lack the hatch...

What Would Kevin Do? 12-03-2007 02:28 AM

Jericho Spike. I would love to see him bust that sucker out again. (his top rope frankenstiener with the opponent standing on the top rope.)

KYR 12-03-2007 02:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Narcissus (Post 1949887)
Remember when heel tag teams used to hold each others arm for leverage on the abdominal stretch when the ref wasn't looking? That was golden.

:rofl: Or how Flair will hold onto the ropes for leverage while applying the figure-four, or how any heel will at one point put his feet on the ropes for added leverage while pinning his opponent :wtf:

Lock Jaw 12-03-2007 03:03 AM

Flash paper in the face.

Funky Fly 12-03-2007 03:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow (Post 1950098)
....I hate you Funky! I HATE YOU SO MUCH!

Nah, I'm kidding ya. I loves me the blacks! Especially if they're Canadian.

I have in my hands a hammer of Ban...

Innovator 12-03-2007 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 1950255)
Flash paper in the face.

DANGEROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUS

Rammsteinmad 12-03-2007 12:16 PM

Pretty much 97% of the moves on Create-A-Wrestler mode in any of the Smackdown games.

Theo Dious 12-03-2007 12:20 PM

Perfect-plex/fisherman suplex pin. Still my favorite finisher ever.

Lock Jaw 12-03-2007 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarthTedious (Post 1950501)
Perfect-plex/fisherman suplex pin. Still my favorite finisher ever.

Robert Roode uses it as his finisher in TNA.

Jeritron 12-03-2007 01:54 PM

Another reason why Robert Roode is the goods

Lock Jaw 12-03-2007 02:17 PM

Doesn't Val Venis also use it as one of his finishers? Of course, since he never wins you never get to see it.

Stickman 12-03-2007 02:45 PM

Piledrivers
Forceful powerbombs
DDT's aren't really done well or as finishers anymore
You never see anybody give up to a figure 4 anymore.
You don't see tag teams with team finishers as much nowadays. (or if you do they suck).
There's really a lot of shitty finishers.

KYR 12-03-2007 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stickman (Post 1950635)
You never see anybody give up to a figure 4 anymore.

True. And when was the last time anyone fell to the Sleeper Hold?

thedamndest 12-03-2007 07:53 PM

I believe it was during HHH and the Rock's Iron Man match, HHH won a fall with it (I think).

ClockShot 12-03-2007 08:05 PM

Texas Cloverleaf.
Shooting Star Press (Unless London wants to get fired.)
I really miss Tajiri and a good shot in the head with one of his kicks.

ozzman6669 12-03-2007 08:29 PM

Liontamer
Screwdriver
Mexican Surfboard
Texas Cloverleaf
F-5
Old Pedigree (when trips didn't release the arms)
Teardrop Suplex
Death Valley Driver
Reverse Death Valley Driver (like Chaz did, it was crazy)
Testdrive
Rocker Drooper
The Mosh Pit

FourFifty 12-03-2007 10:05 PM

Full nelson slam. I loved it when Test did it. That may have been the best thing Test has ever done. Like, seriously, he could save an orphan from a well and that full nelson slam will still be the best thing he has ever done. He could punch my boss in the dick and yet somehow that full nelson slam will still be the greatest thing he has ever done. Test could freaking cure cancer and that full nelson slam would still top it!

Xero 12-03-2007 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ozzman6669 (Post 1951191)
Reverse Death Valley Driver (like Chaz did, it was crazy)

The Burning Hammer?

Juan 12-03-2007 11:05 PM

Armbar...

El Fangel 12-03-2007 11:13 PM

STO, I only remember Kenzo Suwhoski.

Xero 12-03-2007 11:15 PM

Whippersnapper
Stun Gun
Nash's elusive 1080 Shooting Star Splash

El Fangel 12-03-2007 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero Limit 126 (Post 1951891)
Nash's elusive 1080 Shooting Star Splash

It was a 1140 Moron, he just did it last night at the PPV, after he tore both quads cause he is that hardcore.

Xero 12-03-2007 11:19 PM

Oh, duh...

But actually, it was a 2250, after breaking his neck, tearing his quads and having his hand bitten off by a bear.

El Fangel 12-03-2007 11:23 PM

He still preceded to take out his comb, and straighten his slightly out of place hair, run over to Stamford (on torn quads) grab a beer from Steve Austin, run back, drink with Scott Hall, and still make the 3 count.

DarKCentaur 12-03-2007 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Know Your Role (Post 1951130)
True. And when was the last time anyone fell to the Sleeper Hold?

HHH beat Jeff Hardy with a sleeper years ago.

El Fangel 12-03-2007 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarKCentaur (Post 1951906)
HHH beat Jeff Hardy with a sleeper years ago.

Ok nearly 2k posts, and I have no clue who you are...

:wave:

Xero 12-04-2007 10:26 AM

Mickie James' ass in black panties?

Theo Dious 12-04-2007 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 1950519)
Robert Roode uses it as his finisher in TNA.

Ok, now let's have someone use it in a setting where more than six people actually see it.

Vastardikai 12-04-2007 12:07 PM

Stump Puller.
Vertebreaker.

Nark Order 12-04-2007 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero Limit 126 (Post 1951898)
Oh, duh...

But actually, it was a 2250, after breaking his neck, tearing his quads and having his hand bitten off by a bear.

I hear Hall was gonna try to top it at Turning Point, but then realized that Nash is a tough guy to show up.

Xero 12-04-2007 12:46 PM

With JR calling the Walls the Liontamer on RAW, I have hope that it won't be the shitty Boston Crab version.

But it was probably just another JR fuck up, though this time it's what everyone wants.

And yet, he called the Lionsault a Springboard Moonsault, so I don't even know anymore...

What Would Kevin Do? 12-04-2007 02:46 PM

Someone in the WWE needs to do the IR (Italian Revolution) It's basically a fisherman suplex, but with their one arm crossed in front of their neck and held, and their other arm between their legs and held. So basically a slick looking fishermen suplex with both arms trapped.

Lock Jaw 12-04-2007 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero Limit 126 (Post 1952420)
With JR calling the Walls the Liontamer on RAW, I have hope that it won't be the shitty Boston Crab version.

But it was probably just another JR fuck up, though this time it's what everyone wants.

And yet, he called the Lionsault a Springboard Moonsault, so I don't even know anymore...

They've been calling the Walls the Liontamer for awhile now.

Xero 12-04-2007 08:03 PM

"For a while" as in three weeks?

Theo Dious 12-04-2007 08:03 PM

Let's just all agree that JR is a senile piece of shit. Which he is. Additionally, he is stupid.

HeartBreakMan2k 12-04-2007 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fallen Angel (Post 1951904)
He still preceded to take out his comb, and straighten his slightly out of place hair, run over to Stamford (on torn quads) grab a beer from Steve Austin, run back, drink with Scott Hall, and still make the 3 count.

Now I know your lying, Nash's hair is never out of place. Even if it was sticking straight up - that's exactly how it was meant to be.

HeartBreakMan2k 12-04-2007 08:54 PM

Also, let it be known that when Brock did the F5 hopping on one leg because he was selling the damage Angle had done to the other, I fell more in love with him as a performer and I hadn't to that point thought such a thing was possible.

Lock Jaw 12-04-2007 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero Limit 126 (Post 1952976)
"For a while" as in three weeks?

"For a while" as in a while before he left for a while. A while.

Fox 12-05-2007 12:29 AM

A good, clean, bridging German Suplex pin.

Mister Sinister 12-05-2007 05:45 AM

Anaconda Vice (I Wish Punk would pull it out sometimes)

Johnny Vegas 12-06-2007 10:02 AM

When the Rock used to do that float-over DDT. That shit kicked ass.

Or when DDP did that Front Face Pancake or whatever. It looked like he was going to do a piledriver, but went forward.

DDP was over as hell back in the day. :y:

Theo Dious 12-06-2007 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny Vegas (Post 1954801)
DDP was over as hell back in the day. :y:

And I have never, ever understood it.

srnrew 12-07-2007 08:56 PM

The Slingshot Suplex by the great Tully Blanchard

Crossrine 12-07-2007 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HuracanRana (Post 1951874)
Armbar...

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