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BigDaddyCool 12-07-2007 09:53 AM

I think we all owe Shadow a bit of an apology.
 
Shadow, I'm sorry I ever made fun of Jeff Hardy. I never thought I would see the day were he is a match away (if not already) top face on Raw. I'm impressed he has gotten this far with vitrually no mic time. Also, could he be the first TNA champion to become a WWE champion? I mean I know there are a handful of WCW/WWE champions to become TNA champions, that isn't a challenge for washed up has beens to get pushed to the top of TNA. But, any one do it reverse wise?

HeartBreakMan2k 12-07-2007 09:55 AM

Wait, Jeff won the TNA strap?

BigDaddyCool 12-07-2007 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by HeartBreakKid2k (Post 1955998)
Wait, Jeff won the TNA strap?

No, I was mistaken. Plus techincally it would have been the NWA TNA strap back then.

Mr. Nerfect 12-07-2007 10:07 AM

I don't really feel the need to apologise. I've never been too down on Jeff Hardy, but I'm not too high on him either. Jeff is also the top face by default. He hasn't really grown in popularity or character since the Attitude era.

BigDaddyCool 12-07-2007 10:10 AM

Shut up 'Noid.

Mr. Nerfect 12-07-2007 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool (Post 1956012)
Shut up 'Noid.

No fucking way. You said everyone owes Shadow an apology, but I have never once made fun on him for believing Jeff Hardy could be something. I've never flat-out agree with him, and I believe strongly that Matt is the better of the two, but I've always said that both brothers could do it. Matt first, justly, then Jeff can follow.

.44 Magdalene 12-07-2007 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool (Post 1956012)
Shut up 'Noid.


BigDaddyCool 12-07-2007 10:29 AM

I hate you 'Noid. :mad:

BigDaddyCool 12-07-2007 10:35 AM

Ok, everyone but Ms. Angela 'Noid Prissypant owes Shadow an apology. :roll:

Either that, or everyone else knows what I meant to begin with and didn't take it literally.

Kane Knight 12-07-2007 10:48 AM

Jeff Hardy sucks. Fuck you, Shadow!

Theo Dious 12-07-2007 11:56 AM

Honestly, I think Jeff has gotten over as far as he has BECAUSE of a lack of mic time. Or rather, because of how limited his mic time has been. His "thank God I'm not Vince's bastard" bit was great.

BigDaddyCool 12-07-2007 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DarthTedious (Post 1956078)
Honestly, I think Jeff has gotten over as far as he has BECAUSE of a lack of mic time. Or rather, because of how limited his mic time has been. His "thank God I'm not Vince's bastard" bit was great.

Yes. Also, I do believe he is more over than he used to be. But their is no way to really prove it.

Theo Dious 12-07-2007 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool (Post 1956080)
Yes. Also, I do believe he is more over than he used to be. But their is no way to really prove it.

Bull shit, I'll get Al Gore to make a slideshow to prove it.

BigDaddyCool 12-07-2007 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DarthTedious (Post 1956082)
Bull shit, I'll get Al Gore to make a slideshow to prove it.

An Irrelevant Truth?

BigDaddyCool 12-07-2007 12:08 PM

Also, on a side note, Global warming is still fake.

Theo Dious 12-07-2007 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool (Post 1956088)
Also, on a side note, Global warming is still fake.

It has to be true. He won an Emmy AND a Grammy for it.

BigDaddyCool 12-07-2007 12:13 PM

GWAR won a Grammy once, the proves anything that wins a grammy is crap. And everyone has an Emmy.

Kane Knight 12-07-2007 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool (Post 1956088)
Also, on a side note, Global warming is still fake.

It's still real to me, dammit!

BigDaddyCool 12-07-2007 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Kane Knight (Post 1956099)
It's still real to me, dammit!

Alls I'm saying is that for a few years now, each winter is getting colder than the last. And the summers have been fairly mild. And the phrase global warming suggest to me that is should be getting warmer, not colder. But what do I know, I'm just an accountant with a cold.

Theo Dious 12-07-2007 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool (Post 1956096)
GWAR won a Grammy once, the proves anything that wins a grammy is crap. And everyone has an Emmy.

Actually it was an Oscar, not an Emmy. My bad. But everyone has one of those too.

BigDaddyCool 12-07-2007 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DarthTedious (Post 1956106)
Actually it was an Oscar, not an Emmy. My bad. But everyone has one of those too.

When Halle Berry wins an oscar for doing pornography, the Oscar don't mean shit. I'm not saying her boobs ain't nice, I'm just saying Jenna Jameson was robbed.

Xero 12-07-2007 12:57 PM

Jeff's still a useless druggie.

Kane Knight 12-07-2007 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool (Post 1956104)
Alls I'm saying is that for a few years now, each winter is getting colder than the last. And the summers have been fairly mild. And the phrase global warming suggest to me that is should be getting warmer, not colder. But what do I know, I'm just an accountant with a cold.

The problem is that "Global Warming" doesn't only mean things get warmer.

BigDaddyCool 12-07-2007 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Kane Knight (Post 1956165)
The problem is that "Global Warming" doesn't only mean things get warmer.

:?:1) If Global Warming doesn't mean the globe gets warmer, then they should probably call it something else.

2) Yeah, I've heard that global warming will make the world colder because it will melt the glaciers, which will dilute the oceans and fuck up the currents and the gulfstream and that kind of stuff. When the gulfstream gets fucked up, it will quit bring warm water up north which will then decrease the temperature in at least the north pole (I image there is a simular current system feeding the antiartic as well). And by decreasing tempratures at the poles, the glaciers and ice caps will grow and make it colder across the earth thus negating the effects of the original warming. Or something like that. Which sounds to me like much ado about nothing. Therefore it is fake.

Kane Knight 12-07-2007 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool (Post 1956173)
:?:1) If Global Warming doesn't mean the globe gets warmer, then they should probably call it something else.

Except it does.

BigDaddyCool 12-07-2007 02:23 PM

Thanks, now I have a head and I'm still freezing.

D Mac 12-07-2007 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Kane Knight (Post 1956052)
Jeff Hardy sucks.


Londoner 12-07-2007 02:25 PM

I've always liked Jeff Hardy, neveronce made fun of him like most of you guys, he'sone of the few guys that keep me watching wwe.

Shadow 12-07-2007 02:31 PM

*sniffs and drys tears*

You've made me the happiest girl in the ball.

BigDaddyCool 12-07-2007 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Shadow (Post 1956273)
*sniffs and drys tears*

You've made me the happiest girl sucking on the ball.

:rofl: I got you good, fucker.

Kane Knight 12-07-2007 03:33 PM

For the record, I don't really hate Hardy, it's just more fun to rip on the morons who love him. Like Shadow. :kiss:

St. Jimmy 12-07-2007 03:40 PM

Jeff Hardy still sucks. Top face or not. If he does win at the PPV I will be counting the seconds until Trips goes super-heel on his ass.

Theo Dious 12-07-2007 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Kane Knight (Post 1956360)
For the record, I don't really hate Hardy, it's just more fun to rip on the morons who love him. Like Shadow. :kiss:

Anyone who thinks he is the best thing on earth is asking to be ripped on. He's entertaining, but he's nothing to have to change your pants over.

Tommy Gunn 12-07-2007 04:02 PM

Being popular in the midcard is one thing, you can get over without too much mic time.

Being the Champion kind of means you have to step up and cut promos on a regular basis. And we all saw how well that worked for Bobby Lashley.

And Jeff Hardy isn't the top face on Raw, the APA are. Fuckin' A-P-A maaaan. :)

Kane Knight 12-07-2007 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DarthTedious (Post 1956388)
Anyone who thinks he is the best thing on earth is asking to be ripped on. He's entertaining, but he's nothing to have to change your pants over.

Agreed 100%.

He's fun. Maybe he could even main event. But he's not horribly special.

Funky Fly 12-07-2007 06:17 PM

BDC, you should apologize to me for apologizing on my behalf. Fuck Jeff Hardy.

Mr. Nerfect 12-07-2007 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool (Post 1956038)
Ok, everyone but Ms. Angela 'Noid Prissypant owes Shadow an apology. :roll:

Either that, or everyone else knows what I meant to begin with and didn't take it literally.

Where is Narc when you need him?

Kane Knight 12-07-2007 08:09 PM

BDC, I think you owe Alienoid an apology.

BigDaddyCool 12-08-2007 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Funky Fly (Post 1956473)
BDC, you should apologize to me for apologizing on my behalf. Fuck Jeff Hardy.

Sorry Funky, but Jeff Hardy > Ultimo Dragon.

BigDaddyCool 12-08-2007 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Kane Knight (Post 1956524)
BDC, I think you owe Alienoid an apology.

Sorry Alienoid, that u so ugly. pwned.

Purgatory 12-08-2007 11:28 AM

I'll never apologize for making fun of 'Dusthead' Jeff Hardy. I've just never seen anything out of him that I found even mildly impressive....except for the impressive rate at which he was consistently late or missed flights and the WWE still kept him around for as long as they did.

Not to mention that fucking hair of his...Jesus, looks like he got involved in a Hardcore match in the hair-dye aisle and lost.

I'm not saying that it's not ok to be a fan of the clown, or anything. Everyone needs a hero, no matter how retarded said hero might be, right?

:)

Jeritron 12-08-2007 03:16 PM

I don't really owe him an apology. I've always liked Jeff and always thought his dance in the main event would come, even if he never wins the strap.

KYR 12-08-2007 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Xero Limit 126 (Post 1956141)
Jeff's still a useless druggie.

And I think that alone may be the only thing that (currently) prevents him from getting the big title.

After Rey winning the big one, I am thoroughly convinced that ANYONE can win the WWE/WHC belt.

So what's stopping Jeff?

How embarassing would it be if the WWE Champion had to be suspended for violations of the Wellness Policy for 30/60 days or heaven-forbid fired while still the Champion.

I would think that Vince would need to be 100% convinced in his own mind that the above scenario would NEVER happen before he agreed to give him the belt.

That's not to say he's not deserving of the belt but rather whether he's a real chance with that element of doubt hanging over his head.

Morrisey 12-08-2007 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Know Your Role (Post 1957342)
How embarassing would it be if the WWE Champion had to be suspended for violations of the Wellness Policy for 30/60 days

RVD, anyone?

Shadow 12-09-2007 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Know Your Role (Post 1957342)
And I think that alone may be the only thing that (currently) prevents him from getting the big title.

After Rey winning the big one, I am thoroughly convinced that ANYONE can win the WWE/WHC belt.

So what's stopping Jeff?

How embarassing would it be if the WWE Champion had to be suspended for violations of the Wellness Policy for 30/60 days or heaven-forbid fired while still the Champion.

I would think that Vince would need to be 100% convinced in his own mind that the above scenario would NEVER happen before he agreed to give him the belt.

That's not to say he's not deserving of the belt but rather whether he's a real chance with that element of doubt hanging over his head.

Oh I'm sorry...I forgot no one can get clean, get better, and get some rehab can they?

Thanks for pointing out that my fav wrestler's like that Know Your Dickless Wonder.

KYR 12-09-2007 01:51 AM

Hey, chill Shadow. I hope he CAN get clean and CAN become Champion. DAMN I hope he IS clean now.

Jeez it's no secret he's "had his personal demons" (to quote JR) I just hope for HIS sake that he is clean while he is getting this push towards (hopefully) a Championship run because if he isn't, chances are he won't get another push for a long, long time - which would be a tragedy.

Shadow 12-09-2007 02:27 AM

Why the fuck do you think he got rehired in the first place?

Vince put the condition of Jeff getting rehired if he got clean. Guess what? Jeff did get clean. So before you think you know exactly what's going on, take a step back and realize...you know nothing!

Mr. Nerfect 12-09-2007 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Shadow (Post 1957674)
Oh I'm sorry...I forgot no one can get clean, get better, and get some rehab can they?

Thanks for pointing out that my fav wrestler's like that Know Your Dickless Wonder.

Hey, no one is saying that Jeff Hardy cannot get clean, it's just that the company would have to be pretty sure that Jeff Hardy was clean before they "RVD'd" him, and gave him the WWE Championship only for him to go and get busted for something.

Jeff has come off as clean since he's been back on RAW, and he's hopefully not stupid enough to fuck up, but no one really knows anything. For all we know, Jeff is snorting coke from between Stephanie's breasts behind Triple H's back.

No one can say for sure whether the guy is clean or not, but of the guys on your roster that you trot out as "say no to drugs" promoters, Jeff Hardy would not be at the top of your list.

KYR 12-09-2007 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Shadow (Post 1957757)
Why the fuck do you think he got rehired in the first place?

Vince put the condition of Jeff getting rehired if he got clean. Guess what? Jeff did get clean. So before you think you know exactly what's going on, take a step back and realize...you know nothing!

ZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

Now you're just boring me.

See, I had NO IDEA you had access to the truth. SHADOW SAYS "Jeff is clean", SHADOW SAYS "Vince put the condition on him" therefore it must be true. Sorry for ever having doubted you.

If you're so one-eyed and blinkered that you can't get over your fanatacism for one individual to have a meaningful discussion then all you have to do is add me to your ignore list. Oh but before you do...learn to spell "Conspiracy", it's been pissing me off for ages.

Take a step back and realise this Shadow...you're a dribbler. Sad to see someone so full of angst and paranoia.

Funky Fly 12-09-2007 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool (Post 1956814)
Sorry Funky, but Jeff Hardy > Ultimo Dragon.

That's the last straw! We are officially feuding. :foc:

Kane Knight 12-09-2007 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Funky Fly (Post 1957848)
That's the last straw! We are officially feuding. :foc:

Don't make me choose sides. :'(

Anyway, yeah, Jeff can check into rehab. Anyone can. And you know what? It might work on him.

The fact is, Shadow, rehab rates are pretty poor. Relapse rates are even less optimistic. So maybe Jeff beats the odds. More likely, he quits for about 30 seconds, gets a push, and blows it in a car with Sabu.


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