I'm sorry, but Alienoid's "retarded" character annoys me
 

I like Alienoid. I don't agree with the guy all the time, but he's a dedicated poster. If I posted more often, he'd be one of the guys I'd be debating with a lot.

I like Alienoid.

I guess this proves that Alienoid is smarter than bigdaddycool.

I'm sure my opinion doesn't matter much to you but I think Alienoids posts are usually pretty interesting. He tends to come up with ideas for storylines and angles that make sense and would (usually) be good and interesting to watch. All the Basham, Venis and London remarks are greatly exaggerated by most people that refer to them.

BDCA was far more annoying. Seeing how this thread is about me, I'm going to address some myths about me:

-My suggestions are made because I get bored while reading a lot of your posts here, so I decide to entertain myself by actually using some creativity.

-I don't actually take wrestling seriously. You take Triple H and show him to a non-wrestling fan, and they will say "He's not funny, he's a horrible actor, his shit is so fake." You see, to anyone other than a wrestling fan, he might as well be a Doug Basham.

-I believe it is the industry that takes itself too seriously. That is why I enjoy the independents and companies like CHIKARA. There is no completely retarded glass ceiling, and you can show them to your friends, and they won't feel as stupid watching a guy in a grasshopper costume flipping to to the outside of the ring as they will a guy in speedos with hideous facial hair talking for twenty minutes and then putting a guy's head between his legs.

-I like a lot of posters here, but the moment someone mentions Triple H being extremely over, or Jeff Hardy getting monster pops, I just wish I could slap them, thrown them in front of a tape from 2001, and let them see Scotty 2 Hotty get an equal reaction to them today.

-I hate it when people jump on a new guy for his wrestling skills, when they aren't even as green as made out to be, and it doesn't even really matter. Mr. Kennedy may not be as good as Triple H in the ring, but he carried Batista to good matches, and as I said, they are both carnies. Who cares if one has been doing it longer and has a better stand? I'm not taking either home for dinner.

-I've enjoyed the women's division more than I have the World Title division. That should say something about my current enjoyment of the product, unfortunately.

-I'm not actually out of touch with reality. Check out my score in Tipsters. Actually, I don't know how I am still going, because I missed two or three PPVs. The point is, everytime someone says "It's 'Noid, of course he said something crazy." I just laugh, and think "Thank you," because I choose to be like that on here. It saves me being depressed because of the WWE's shitty product.

-I'm not stupid. I won't judge you, BDC, I don't know if you are as stupid as your posts that might as well be accompanied with a picture of Larry the Cable Guy make you sound, but I'd advise you not to the same to me. I know my IQ, and you won't ever know that you're wrong, but you saying I'm stupid is a swing and miss, and makes me pray that you won't one day miss with something that counts.

-Half the time I argue with KK, I do it for my amusement. I can see his point most of the time, and even agree, but damn it, the guy reminds me so much of me that it's not funny. Half the time it's because he accuses me of doing something (a lot of the time, accurately), that he himself is doing. "Strawman" is a classic example. The guy's sense of superiority is honestly one of the funniest things I've ever seen, bless him. He's smart, but thinks he's much smarter than he is, if he is honest with his posts. You can actually see him pulling arguments out of his hat, improvising with his "wit," and stumbling, but not enough to actually fall. He's like a smart man with training wheels.

-Believe it or not, if I were running the WWE, Val Venis, Paul London & Brian Kendrick would not be the World Champions. Things would actually remain relatively the same, only these guys would be allowed to show their skills, and things would have more depth and development.

And BDC, don't say this is too long. My cock is too long. You're just too lazy. If you can't be fucked reading it, good for you, but you're then not qualified to comment.

You know, I TRIED to read that, 'Noid, I really did. But I could't. It's not even too long, but for the love of crap, it hurts my eyes.

Yeah, I feel childish getting into another one of these threads designed to get me to respond to immaturity, but meh. I'm bored, and BDC's threads are boring, and could use some life.

I appreciate you trying to read it, I really do. But to be honest, as much as I like you, I couldn't care whether you did or didn't.

burn

His ideas are usually the same ones over and over again, just with different characters (If we're lucky) and slightly different setups. For a while there, all of his bookings boiled down to "X drops gimmick Y for no apparent reason, turns heel, and main events at Z in six months." Until, you know, people caught on, and started mocking him for that.

They end up being lackluster as well, fairly creative only if you disregard all similar ideas booked by him or by other internet "smarks" (God, that word really does deserve to be a pejorative) and seem to come from some sort of form-fill handout. The "make sense" part really baffles me, since many of his own ideas lack any internal continuity, much less sense from the external wrestling world.

Further, Alienoid's booking would totally kill a wrestling promotion. Except maybe TNA, because the fanbase appear to be mutants.

Beyond that, he's either an idiot, divorced from reality, or pushing really hard to pretend to be one of the former. This comment alone will likely draw down several "Kane Knox" comments, because Alienoid seems to live in (and only understand) a TV fantasy world and thinks that this comment is witty after its five hundredth usage (It's still new to him, dammit!). But realistically, he fails to understand not only what people are saying as well as their motives. He takes constructive criticism of his "booking" the same way he does "'Noid, you're a retard:" With a Kano-esque fifty page response that takes offense at questioning his "genius." He's just that slow. If you disagree with him, you must mean the opposite of what he says, or whatever convenient strawman he decides you mean.

Errrr...I mean, BDC's right. Alienoid sucks.

I know 704 words is a lot for you, and if you put 7 on a page like you are used to, you would get roughly 100 pages (actually, you'd get one more, but I know you're not up to division yet), but my posts really aren't that long. It takes a few minutes to type one, and I enjoy writing.

And no, The Bashams are nowhere near the greatest tag team of all-time. I'd tell you who my favourite are, but I'm sure you're like to tell us how The Outsiders are the greatest. If they can show up and not pull a quad.

Have you ever seen David Blaine do street magic? You know how he talks really slow and deliberately in a way that seems to make your mind slow down, which I've always assumed is a tactic that's supposed to lull the subject's brain to make the sleight of hand go over more easily? Yeah, I think Alienoid is attempting to practice an internet version of that.

I'm waiting now for a response from him that points out that that post was not, in fact, a 100 page novel, and that you are therefore stupid.

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I assume he would then mention his penis for what he believes to be comedic reasons.

It's actually kinda funny that he's "breaking KAYFABE" and does several things right within the Alienoid "character."

I also like how he's "using [my] own tactics" against me, but has never, ever actually managed to do so (and every time he tries to "prove" it to someone, they get it....). But that's just my own personal chuckle for the day. "Oh, I'm just playing a character..."

I'm a fan of the noid. Sometimes I call him on some things but overall he's entertaining and has solid ideas.

What ever happened to Squirt anyways? I liked that stuff.

I don't know why anyone would fuck with someone who looks like you, TBH.

You look like the fucking Unabomber, only with a girlfriend. Who wants to piss off the fucking Unabomber, even if he is getting some? :D

:rofl:

The classic KK response to me. "All Alienoid's theories are the same." Genius, occasionally I say "As I suggested in another thread, they could do this..." posts. I know this is hard for you to grasp, but they're not meant to be completely original, despite, you know, me going deep enough to get to the specifics and making them appropriate to the personality.

I love that you're so jealous of the positive feedback I used to get for my ideas. Originally, you used to compliment me for them. And then you decided that "they're all the same" and that "everyone has noticed this." Let's assume that they are all the same: Maybe this is because there are only a few ways to push a guy? It's not like I'm writing an original screenplay here. Even if I was, you make things general enough, and there are patterns. "Oh my God! This has people in it! I saw something with people in it once! Rip off!"

As far as suggesting that a wrestler drops his gimmick and turns heel for no apparent reason? I think I may have suggested that a few times for Sean Morley. That's all I can recall. Wait, there was also Scott Taylor. There were probably more, I'll give you that, but what you are unable to grasp is that this was usually in reference to how to get a guy with a shitty gimmick to main event in as few steps as possible.

I love the way you interpret things the way you want for your argument. You make it sound like I'm only capable of what I show. If you asked me to come up with a completely original angle for a guy, I could. To be honest, most of the time my specialty was actually getting guys to feud based on past history they have had. That goes against your "it makes no sense to the external wrestling world." As far as me running a promotion, though, I can respect that you think I'd run into trouble, but the thing is, you don't know how I'd do it. You can assume, but you'd be wrong.

You see all these little glimpses of my mind, and you fail to realise that they are just that. I suggest Val Venis could be a World Champion, and you assume that I'd go in that direction. I wouldn't.

I also don't create too many topics. A lot of my posts come in response to someone else, and I riff off their ideas. You make it sound like I'm playing by these rules you have set for me. Go fuck yourself with your rules. Internal continuity? What the fuck is that? Of course they lack internal continuity, I'm not writing a fucking book with my own characters here, I'm responding to what the WWE throws at me each week. They throw something at me, I suggest what they could do, they don't do it, I move on.

I accept constructive criticism fine. I've accepted it from a lot of people on here. I used to accept it from you, but now I don't accept it from you, because quite frankly, I don't think you have anything constructive to offer. You're criticism is that I reuse the same 4 or 5 scenarios. I think that a) you're full of shit, and that b) 4 or 5 general scenarios is enough, if you play around with the specifics to create originality, which is what I set out to do. I think you misread my intentions entirely, you over analyse and obviously obsess about my posts, and that you're too tunnel-visioned to realise what a hypocrite you are, at times.

You make me sound like a fraud with templates saved on my computer that I go to. It's pointlessly discrediting. I come up with everything I suggest on the fly, and if you don't perceive them to be original, I couldn't give a fuck. You could go through the effort of categorising my ideas, but then you could categorise your posts into 2. Sarcastic and pointless, and semi-intelligent with a point, sans sarcasm.

By the way, I've never claimed to be a genius, and believe it or not, I do not have a large ego. Ask anyone who has ever offered me constructive criticism. This is all in your head, buddy. Oh, and as far as my living in a TV fantasy land? Yeah, I watch three television shows. I make Kane Knox references to you, because of how you act. That's a reflection of the person you are. If you don't want to hear it, stop being a wannabe Dr. Cox type.

LOL, Darth is the man.

BORING! BORING! BORING!

BDCA: You've just been KKK'd
 

Yeah, I'm pretty sure I re-use Kane Knox because I love seeing you fly off the wall about how I watch too much TV, when you probably watch more of it than I do. (Hypocritical statement #1)

Oh, and five hundredth usage slant is coming from the guy who edit people's posts continuously (with the same 4 or 5 "witty changes"!), and still makes Chris Benoit jokes. (Hypocritical statement #2)

And yeah, by definition, yelling out "Strawman," which is not even a word, is in itself a straw-man argument. You see, a straw-man argument is when you take an irrelevant point, blow it up, and then deflect that point so it looks like you win the argument, is it not? By using "Strawman" as an offensive, you aren't addressing any of the points on order, and are instread discussing the argument itself. (Hypocritical statements #3 to #2848374)

And dude, I couldn't lower myself enough to use your tactics against you. As I said, and read this carefully: You do what you accuse others of. It's a syndrome with you. You call someone stupid, funnily enough, you turn out to be stupid. You call someone a hypocrite, there you are three posts later taking the side that they were in an argument. I get it, you love to argue. You're just wrong a lot more of the time than you give yourself credit for.

But that would defy the genius of KK. He can never be wrong. You see, if you point out flaws in his argument, you are a child, as he has no flaws. Dare you remind him that he is a child for being so childish? No! You daren't.

Anyway, I'm bored of you. I'm going to go write the same 4 or 5 scenarios again, to you know, cut invisible corners? I suggest you go watch more TV than me, be an unrealistically condescending ass (you honestly can't be this retarded in real life, can you?), and come back and accuse me of being obsessed with the medium and living in a fantasy world, so we can do this again later.

Noid rules. :foc:

Though I'm assuming, as an accountant, you don't live in a rustic shack. And any manifestos you might write probably would include an homage to Futurama, totally screwing the technology angle. :D

Also, you're wrong on the big fight that's coming. I know Valienoid wrote something in response to me, but I'm pretty sure it was a spazout involving Doug Basham as champion of something.

From Instant Classic. Which is like getting called a slut by the woman they bring out second on Jerry Springer.

No offence, IC.

Oh, and seriously, you need to publish that book. This isn't sucking up, I just want to see your photo in the dust jacket with the phrase "Josh Becka is an accountant who resides in...." below it.

Just thought I'd point out, it's not really hypocrisy on his part if you're "pretty sure" you do it because you "think" it's "probably" true.

Just saying. Don't count the chickens that you made up, or something along those lines.

I couldn't make myself read the rest, if you're wondering.

Proving what point? That I write long posts? Dude, that's no point to make. I make that point. That I'm stupid? Nah, I'm willing to place money that I'm smarter than a lot of people here. That I am annoying? I'll confess to that one, but you keep proving that you're annoying with your Kliq shit.

If it's that KK and my arguments are predictable, then I'll agree with that.

That dude needs more of a gimmick change than I do.

:lol:

Noid logic is hilarious.

IS IT THAT I DO LONG POSTS? CUZ THAT'S ON PURPOSE

THAT I'M STUPID? NO U

THAT I'M ANNOYING? NO U

THAT I'M PREDICTABLE?

YEAH

BUT SO'S YOUR MOM

That's true, if you didn't miss my point entirely. And you can't use the cop out of "that's not relevant to this discussion!" here: My point on hypocrisy was that KK claims I make up a fantasy world, and then he goes and suggests that I live in a TV-land. Well, I don't. That's a part of KK's fantasy world. Hence the hypocrisy.

...Wait. Are you saying that I'm BDC's mom?

:|

I love that you do the all caps thing for people who don't do all caps. And that you use shorthand like "u" when I don't. You know, it just makes you look like you haven't done your homework.

Yeah, I write long posts accidentally. :roll:

I confessed to being annoying. I do play exactly into BDC's hands. That's because I don't give him enough thought to amend myself otherwise. Yeah, it sounds weird, but I don't care about BDC or KK enough to ignore them. That would give them their win, and I don't like them enough to do that.

Also, I have never made a "your mum" joke ever.

And this is all coming from a guy who claims to have never read the thread.

I was hoping that I'd never have to say this again, but Critic, you are done. Next.

I like that relevancy is a cop-out, even when I explained it to you. How many times are you going to just totally ignore counter-arguments when you can't refute them?

Your point about KK's fantasy world was something you made up based on what you're "sure" is "probably" true. There's legitimate evidence that you watch too much fucking TV. You can't just pawn off that sort of reputation on other people because you feel like it.

Yes, when you parody something, it has to be entirely faithful to the original.

How am I boring, or a slut. Sorry I dont write 800 words storylines, angles and swerves in which Val Venis captures the WWE championship at the grand daddy of them all.

Seriously, I called you boring because you're tired and played out, like Eminem. Same shit, different post, rants and raves about whos being underused, whos being overused, how RoH is awesome and offers the best wrestling today. Seriously, if you've read one Alienoid post, you've read them all. Now maybe if you add comes substance to your novels, and add a little demension to your characters, and maybe you wont get bitched out by half the people on the board, and maybe you won't get "boring" chants ala Lance Storm.

Lol, my homework. Like the fact that you don't type in all caps and use shorthand is such secretive information, I must have missed it. Way to let the point float over your head. Ditto to the mom jokes.

Last time you said I was done, I refuted your argument, and you never responded. :| Actually, that's happened three times now. Don't you mean you're done? Or are you going to pawn that off without evidence, as well?

I just can't be bothered reading your posts. I honestly skim over them and do not take in half the words you say. In a Chris Jericho thread, I actually didn't realise you answered a question I asked you because all your posts read the same to me.

Also, I don't care enough to try and understand your ways. I'm going to assume that it was that you say something aimed at me, and I respond in the same way every time. But then I ask, what do you expect when you take the same shots at me again and again? A different retort? Fuck no, if you're not going to come up with anything new, why would I?

Damn, some people on these boards are lazy (namely BDC and The "Find Me Evidence So I Don't Need To Find It Myself" Critic).

Nothing about your mum. I have faith that she's a lovely woman.

See, I don't make "your mum" jokes. I think that one was all Critic...

:| I already took care of that argument, also. Fuck, Alienoid, that's like the fifth time you've brought up an argument that was completely and utterly killed with no retort. I really do believe you just ignore arguments that you can't refute. You just pretend they don't exist, and then reference your "win" in every subsequent argument.

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Nah, you did expect something of it. You got exactly what you expected, did you not? And have you continued to make fun of me? I honestly have not noticed, you said something about a point, but mainly I got carried away with KK again, because it's honestly so fun to see his faults, and then see him ignore them like a wannabe novelist type. You know, the kind that think that use synonyms and metaphors in place of actual talent.

How the fuck can you refute you being too lazy to look up evidence? My point is that you make people bring it to you. Take the fucking burden occasionally. Instead of asking why something is, go and find some evidence as to why it is not.

You know, I'm not even going to argue with Alienoid right now or anything. I just want to say that he's probably the kind of guy who calls poetry bad on the grounds that it "doesn't even rhyme," and leave it at that.

No, I don't expect people to read my posts, per se. I don't expect them to read your's either. I know your posts are short, but they honest to God don't stick in my brain. I can read a lot of people's longer posts, and they stick. Your's just don't attract my mind at all.

I'm not saying that to offend you, it's just the way things are, sorry. You can't read mine, and I can't read your's. It has nothing to do with the length.

Wow, you couldn't be more wrong. :lol:

Honestly, that was the worst example you could have used with me considering the poetry I write.

NOT ONLY CAN I DO IT, BUT I'VE ALREADY DONE IT, AND AM CURRENTLY IN THE PROCESS OF DOING IT AGAIN.

I JUST TRIPLE QUOTED MYSELF OR SOME SHIT.



;AJF;JA;JFJ;A


IN RESPONSE TO HOW LAZY I AM ABOUT FINDING EVIDENCE.



Not only do I auto-win this fucking argument, I think I win the internet.

LOL. Alienoid tripped over himself to show how wrong I was and how "deep" he was, so much so, he missed the point entirely.

So yeah. Carry on, people, nothing to see here.

Noid cant seem to type a sentance without being pwn'd.

I actually didn't see that thread. Good to see you got off your ass and did something, even though it really doesn't prove anything.

Yeah, KK said it probably was Jericho. And I actually believe I said I agree with him that the connections are weak, but the guy still made fun of people for saying that Jericho could return at a PPV, which was my fucking point in the first place.

So no, you do not win. But you can have the internet. I'll keep the porn, credit card stealing programs, though.

Nah, it's just your posts. Unless I have a specific lobe missing, which prevents me from picking up on BDC posts. I don't think you're worthy of a lobe, though. :p

You realize that's from two different threads, right?


I quoted one argument with you as evidence for another argument with you.



...About how lazy I am on evidence.



So let me get this straight: You just ignore arguments that you can't refute? :)

Because I can count, right now, three arguments that you still reference like you have a point, when I shot down your points and never got a response.

Critic did in fact, win this series of tubes.

But I'm sure you'll pretend you just got bored and stopped paying attention right before you arguments went down in a blaze of glory, right?

And that your ignorance of startling responses is somehow good enough to excuse you from looking like a dick for referencing those same arguments in every subsequent thread?

:rofl:

I know what your fucking point was, jackass. "Alienoid is so stupid, he couldn't drive a car!" *Alienoid drives a car* "My point was that he's stupid!"

Use better examples, man. You know, ones that don't prove to me that you're so fucking bad at reading people that you actually have me backwards.

The example is fine. Saying "Well, I write poetry" or "considering the kind of poetry I write" doesn't make it a bad example.

"Shows what you know, I don't really use caps when I type!"

:rofl:

lol damn enough already, you guys say alienoids posts are boring, well tbh, im getting tired of you guys saying the same old shit about him over and over. Not taking sides in this crap, just being honest.

You never got a response, by the way, because I genuinely lost interest in the threads. It wasn't you "winning". I only really click the top half threads, I don't go back pages, so if one dies off overnight, I don't go back to it.

I congratulated you on finding some form of evidence. What more do you want? Me to take back my original statements calling you lazy? I'm not going to do that, because it was those statements that got you to look up anything in the first place. You did sit there going "find me evidence!" I wasn't aware that you had. Good job. Judging by the egotistical self-pat on the back you did, you obviously like kudos for your small achievements, so here you go.

I'm sorry that you interpreted me losing interest with me ignoring them. I honestly don't go back to threads, occasionally. I argue until the end when I do. See my arguments with KK. No matter how pointless it is arguing with a suit of armour, I still do it anyways. If I had read the thread, I'd have drilled holes in that evidence, but still congratulated you for getting off your ass and at least looking for it.

But yes, that was my mistake, Critic. I should have gone back and actually seen if you got off your ass. You did.

Anyway, thanks for keeping me occupied. IC continues to put me to sleep when he posts without any kind of wrestling content, BDC's posts continue to look the same to me (as mine do to a lot of people), and KK continues to be the poster with the most overrated intelligence on these boards. All is as it should be.

You realize that the original post where I quoted you and KK as evidence to end your argument was doing your job for you, right? Furthermore, that's it's prior to the last series of arguments, and thus I was telling you to find evidence before visa versa? Furthermore, I've explained the last time why burden of proof couldn't possibly be my responsibility? FURTHERMORE, I WENT AHEAD AND BACKED UP MY STATEMENTS WITH EVIDENCE ANYHOW? FURTHERMORE, FOR ALL THE BITCHING I DO, YOU'VE NEVER GIVEN ME EVIDENCE THAT I HADN'T ALREADY PRESENTED MYSELF, MAKING THE ENTIRE POINT MOOT YOU DUMB SON OF A BITCH.

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK.

I'd tell you to start fucking reading whole threads before you use them as "relevant arguments" in later threads, but then you'd just cry about how I don't read whole threads.

Because that's what you fucking do.

You just pawn off whatever stupid things you do onto other people.

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK.

I do post wrestling content, usually when Im not arguing with morons who post about the same shit over and over. but I digress, I called you're post boring, because it was legitimetly boring to me, with or witout wrestling content. You constantly have to defend yourself and your ideas against most peoeple on the board. Now, could it be us, atleast a half dozen decent posters, or you, the one everyone seems to argue with.

I'll be honest, most of the time your posts arent boring, but they are too damn long for someone like myself who is mildly a casual fan to read, or respond to, especially since it's regarding something I've probably read a week or two before. It was nothing against you, but should you worry more about the content on you posts, rather than defending yourself at every turn.

You're was called boring, because it was, it was 1000 word post about defending your opinions and ideas, which is fine, only you've dont it 100 times before.

And as for myself, I'm hardly even around enough these days to be boring anyone.

Well I did just bore myself typing that response, but I have no attention span......I hope Jeff Hardy gets the win over HHH at the PPV.

The bitch is officially out of my shower, I'm scraping off this dirty feeling and going to bed. I'll read Alienoid's inevitable 80 post, 300 word-a-piece jamboree where he immediately accuses me of everything I've said he does, somehow managing to dig up every single argument I've already shot down in the past four weeks in the process (if for nothing else, than for the sake of making every single argument into the exact same argument, but with a little bit tacked on each time).

Goodnight, fuckers.

Read it later, I should say. I'm in the sort of blind fury right now that I only remember having after watching the Tomb Raider movie.

In the opinion of someone with lackluster intelligence. Noted.

(Sorry, 'Noid, but "I know my IQ," too.... :lol: )

one of the best posts I've ever read. shit.

Stop applauding yourself under your alt, noid.

This thread is still going?

JL, you are no better than Saddam Hussein.

:rofl:

I have to be somewhat better because at least I'm still alive.

Touché, old spoon.

I like the Codebreaker dammit.

When I first started reading this forum years ago, I would read everything - basically because there was so little wrestling info available to me here in Australia.

Now, mainly because I'm on this forum while at work most of the time, I'm selective what I read.

I can't remember the last time I read a 'Noid post in it's entirety - more often than not, I will skip past it or just read the first line to see what it's about - I just can't be bothered.

Now 'Noid, that is a shame. You may very well have plenty of good things to say but I will never know because I just can't read it.

That being said, IMO, this thread, like a 'Noid post, has gone on far too long.