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Kris P Lettus 04-21-2008 02:02 PM

NFL Draft 2008..
 
What are you teams needs??

What do you predict they will do??

Any potential trades in the works??

It's been talked about that the Saints might want to move up and trade picks with the Rams (2nd overall).. I don't want to trade up..

I say just get the best defensive player available at that 10th spot.. Also, with the additions of Vilma, Morgan, and McCrary, I have switched from strictly wanting a CB to more wanting a DT or LB..

I'm saying Rivers, Ellis, or Dorsey.. Though I wouldn't really be mad at a McKelvin or a DRC..

I just don't think they have to "move up" to get an impact player in the first round..

I'm leaning towards them trading our second round pick for Shockey.. Then getting an CB, LB, and DT (whatever we don't get in the first) in later rounds..

Also, they were saying on local sports talk radio about if RUN DMC (McFadden) is still avalible would the Saints go after him.. I dunno about that cause he's more of an outside runner and we already have one of those.. If we do go after a RB I'd want a between the tackles "bruiser" to potentially replace Deuce..

What do you think??

RP 04-21-2008 06:17 PM

Colts will take Mario Manningham if he still on the board

RP 04-21-2008 06:17 PM

I predicted Gonzales last year and was right. I really think they'll go for another reciever cause no one really knows about Marvins knees.

Kris P Lettus 04-21-2008 06:24 PM

What's yall's first pick??

Jesus Shuttlesworth 04-21-2008 07:52 PM

I'd assume the Pats are gonna go corner since they really need one, I'd like to see them trade down and pick up more picks. I don't know if any of the top corner prospects are worth money that goes along with a #7 pick. NFL Network had the Pats taking Keith Rivers from USC #7 overall, I would love to see that happen since I think he is going to be an absolute beast but I don't understand why NFL Network has him there because 1.) Belichick prefers veteran Linebackers and 2.) they signed Victor Hobson a few weeks ago. They really don't have a lot of "needs" outside of corner, so I gotta think that's how they are going. Never know though, they have made some picks that seemed random at the time but end up working out

Kris P Lettus 04-21-2008 07:55 PM

I want us to get Rivers..

Heros Welcome 04-21-2008 08:10 PM

Falcons will take Dorsey at 3 as long as he is there, which I think he will be. I got the fins taking Jake Long with the Rams taking either Chris Long or Gholston. So i'm pretty confident in taking Dorsey at 3.

I don't think we will be trading back into the first round for a QB, since we have so many glaring needs we can't afford to be giving picks away. So my fingers are crossed that Brian Brohm is their with our 1st pick in the second round. 3-5 years from now I believe he will be better than Ryan, but that is an argument for another time.

Then with our other 2 picks in the second I expect us to grab an o-linemen and a corner.

I really can't wait for this draft since we have so many picks.

Kris P Lettus 04-21-2008 10:44 PM

And yall wouldn't pick Matt Ryan why??

SammyG 04-21-2008 10:47 PM

We need : O-line help, D-line help, secondary help, receiver

We will take Chris Long, I think.

Kris P Lettus 04-21-2008 10:56 PM

SI's Peter King:

Quote:

From Monday Morning QB:

"This one really surprises me, and at first I didn't think it was true, but New Orleans is serious about trading into the top four -- preferably for LSU defensive tackle Glenn Dorsey but not only for Dorsey. Wish I could tell you the other apple of their eye, but I don't know who he is."

Also of interest:

"The Saints and Jeremy Shockey's rookie-year offensive coordinator, Sean Payton, are still hot for the tight end. It won't get done if the Giants insist on receiving in-his-prime, 25-year-old safety Roman Harper (a 2006 second-round pick), plus the 40th pick in the draft. Harper's the best player in New Orleans' secondary, and to trade him and a second-round pick for an injury-plagued tight end who will be 28 on opening day is not an equitable deal. If the Giants want, say, Harper and a sixth-round pick for Shockey, or a second- and sixth-rounder for him, then I could see the trade getting done."
Hate both these ideas.. We could esily get a great defensive player with the 10th pick..

Also, I'm ok with a second round pick for Shockey but we gotta keep Saint Roman..

Kris P Lettus 04-21-2008 10:57 PM

Also, The Predator is our best D-Back, not Harper..

Crimson 04-21-2008 11:48 PM

Cowboys needs; Cornerback,widereciever, backupRB, and some depth on the offensive line.

I hope they just keep the picks and draft any of those needs. Most mocks have them drafting Felix Jones along with a Limas Sweed or D Jackson. But I'm kinda hoping they pass on Jones and draft a Chris Johnson or Ray Rice in the 2nd round. It's obviously a risk if they hope on something like that..but I think wr and cb are bigger needs.
So..with the 1stround picks i'd like to see them take Limas Sweed and Brandon Flowers. I wouldn't mind Talib..Desean Jackson could be good...but I think Sweed will be a better pro.

Kris P Lettus 04-22-2008 12:12 AM

Felix Jones is gonna be a great NFL RB..

Heros Welcome 04-22-2008 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kris P Lettus (Post 2129357)
And yall wouldn't pick Matt Ryan why??

Well from all that has been reported it just seems as if we are not interested in him. There really isn't a TOP QB in the draft this year. I feel that they built up Ryan in hopes to make him seem like a top 5 pick because every year there just HAS to be a QB taken high, and I think Ryan is media made. I've seen him play and I really don't think he is THAT good. I think Brohm is going to be just as good as him if not better.

Now if Ryan becomes the next Peyton, then shame on us. But I just feel Dorsey is the man that Mike Smith wants, coming from Jax when he had a big DT like Stroud.

Kris P Lettus 04-22-2008 12:21 AM

Are there any talks of yall going after a QB via trade??

Heros Welcome 04-22-2008 12:26 AM

As in trade before draft? Or trade to move back into round one?

Nervous Ferret 04-22-2008 01:29 AM

Jetssssssssssssssssssss

Prob taking Gholston with the 6th pick. Unless Mcfadden falls to 6, in which case I guess they would take him, also wouldn't be surpirsed if they were able to move down this year. But 70% says they stick with Gholston. Don't really think he is the 6th best player in the draft but who knows, should fit right into this 3-4 we are committed to sans Vilma :wavesad:

Boomer 04-22-2008 02:16 AM

Matt Ryan going at 3 would be brutal...the Falcons would trade down at least a little if they wanted him IMO.

Splaya 04-22-2008 02:29 AM

Detroit: Needs: Everything

Strong rumors going around that we are going to take Mendenhall as a RB in the first round

Skippord 04-22-2008 03:51 AM

Denver

needs: a defense

DaveWadding 04-22-2008 04:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SammyG (Post 2129380)
We need : O-line help, D-line help, secondary help, receiver

We will take Chris Long, I think.


I want Jake Long badly. BADLY. But, I would settle for Dorsey.

RoXer 04-22-2008 05:09 AM

I hop Antwoine Cason geos somewhere where hes needed. Like Dallas or rizona.

RP 04-22-2008 08:09 AM

Colts dont really have much for need. They're returning 20 of 22 starters. They're pretty much drafting for depth. I can see them going Dlineman, but i dont think theres anyone at pick #59 that would be any more good then a Dlineman in the 3rd or 4th. I'm positive Polian will find a gem in the 3rd or 4th. So i believe they'll go WR . I like Manningham, he might be there. I really like Early Doucet. But i dont think he'll be there. I'm shocked Doucet isnt a sure 1st rounder. He's projected as early to mid 2nd. Maybe Indy trades up? I doubt it. Ofcourse, this draft is totally unpredictable for the Colts because like i said, they're basically drafting for depth. THeres no real need anywhere atm. I'm sticking with my Manningham prediction.

VonErichLives 04-22-2008 12:19 PM

I'd love Rivers also, but the last 1st round LB they took was Katzenmoyer and that was Grieer picking with Carroll as coach.

if Ryan slips they trade down.

I think Ryan's going to be a good pro QB, no Manning or Brady, but he'll be a good QB in the league, the question is will people take him high or try and catch him later and save money.

DL is typically a safe investment high in the draft.

OssMan 04-22-2008 07:45 PM

Don't really know who is gonna be around at pick 31.... :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool:

OssMan 04-22-2008 07:45 PM

I bet some team with a 10-20 pick takes Manningham way high for some reason

VonErichLives 04-23-2008 12:46 PM

so word is the Jets are trying to trade with STL to get #2 and take McFadden.

I guess my question is, why would the Jets go to #2? I mean, there's pretty much no chance STL would take McFadden at 2, and Atlanta at 3, the risk is Oakland and 4.

So, wouldn't they try and trade with Atlanta? who could probably deal down to 6, and still get Matt Ryan...

Dunno... make it interesting...

I can't believe im seeing scenarios where Chris long could slip to 6 or 7...

fuck, Chris Long in a Patriot uniform... that would be huge...

Kris P Lettus 04-23-2008 01:44 PM

It retarded for a team to trade down if their are in the top ten already..

If RUN DMC goes to the Raiders, Jets should just pick up Felix Jones..

Not that hard..

Kris P Lettus 04-24-2008 04:54 PM

John Clayton reported that we are not gonna trade down with the Rams..

Thank God..

SammyG 04-24-2008 05:02 PM

Thank god, for us too.

Heros Welcome 04-24-2008 11:41 PM

I have to say DAMN YOU to the Rams if they take Dorsey!

OssMan 04-25-2008 10:58 AM

Everyone knows the Dolphins are taking Jake Long right

VonErichLives 04-25-2008 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kris P Lettus (Post 2131743)
It retarded for a team to trade down if their are in the top ten already..

If RUN DMC goes to the Raiders, Jets should just pick up Felix Jones..

Not that hard..

After reading this my response was going to be "Why is it stupid for a team to trade down and pickup more picks for a higher pick if they have multiple holes to fill?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kris P Lettus (Post 2133152)
John Clayton reported that we are not gonna trade down with the Rams..

Thank God..

then I read this and realised you have your up and down backwards.

So, you're saying if you're top 10 it's retarded to trade up... really depends on what it costs you and what you want/need.




Quote:

Originally Posted by Assmani Toomer please (Post 2133894)
Everyone knows the Dolphins are taking Jake Long right

the NFL had to "Remined" the Rams that they're not allowed to negotiate with anyone even though Jake Long has signed with the Dolphins.

Evil Vito 04-25-2008 12:07 PM

<font color=goldenrod>I guess its a smart move to not let the Rams negotiate. Would be stupid if one year all the negotiations were done early and the top 5 picks or something were all known.

Not sure what the Giants will do...though its a kinda boring strategy all you can really do is draft the best player available on your boards.</font>

RP 04-25-2008 12:21 PM

I think McFadden will have an Eddie George like career. I'd take him.

SammyG 04-25-2008 01:21 PM

Yeah what the fuck, why cant we negotiate with anyone, the Phins have already fucking signed Jake Long.

Evil Vito 04-25-2008 06:09 PM

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<font color=goldenrod>Well we already have the Jets draft vid in here, may as well throw in this gem from last year.</font>

Kris P Lettus 04-25-2008 06:11 PM

LOL

What fucking queers..

How can someone be a "Nazi" and a "Jew"??

Evil Vito 04-25-2008 06:12 PM

<font color=goldenrod>And this:</font>

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VonErichLives 04-25-2008 06:40 PM

so, espn was running today that NO is trying to move up and get Ellis.

Kris P Lettus 04-25-2008 07:13 PM

Yeah which was kinda stupid, IMO..

I mean, they were saying yall would pick Ellis then trade him to us for our 10th overall pick and some other pick..

I dunno.. As long as we get the best defensive player availible and some depth at CB I'll be happy.. I'd also like to get Shockey..

SammyG 04-25-2008 07:13 PM

lol @ ted ginn reaction

VonErichLives 04-26-2008 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kris P Lettus (Post 2134174)
Yeah which was kinda stupid, IMO..

I mean, they were saying yall would pick Ellis then trade him to us for our 10th overall pick and some other pick..

I dunno.. As long as we get the best defensive player availible and some depth at CB I'll be happy.. I'd also like to get Shockey..

There's talk here if Ellis slips the Pats keep him.

Seymore and Wilfork both have big paydays coming up soon and the thought is they can't afford both. While Ellis would get a nice payday for being the #7 pick, he wouldn't see the huge money for 4-5years.

I really love Wilfork, hate to see him or Seymore go anywhere.

There's also talk if McFadden somehow slips the Pats can get the 2 first rounders from Dallas and deal one of them to Miami for Jason Taylor

Innovator 04-26-2008 10:13 AM

With the 31st pick in the NFL draft, the Giants select Dan Connor, LB/Beast, out of Penn State

RP 04-26-2008 11:45 AM

I hope the Jets pick someone no one has heard of. I truely think if the Jets pass on Matt Ryan, which they probably will, the Jets fans will go insane.

OssMan 04-26-2008 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Innovator (Post 2134667)
With the 31st pick in the NFL draft, the Giants select Dan Connor, LB/Beast, out of Penn State

Dunno, hate white linebackers

Evil Vito 04-26-2008 01:40 PM

<font color=goldenrod>Rams are selecting Chris Long according to Adam Schefter.

Bet they still take the whole 10 minutes.</font> :o

Kris P Lettus 04-26-2008 01:56 PM

We offered our 40th overall pick from this year and this year's 5th rounder (or next years 6tgh rounder) for Shockey.. It's supposedly already happened, but we won't know for sure until the 40th pick..

Supreme Olajuwon 04-26-2008 02:42 PM

would be great if the Falcons took Ryan and we had 3 white kids taken with the first 3 picks

I wonder when the last time that happened

OssMan 04-26-2008 02:46 PM

SHOCKEYYYYYYYYYYY booooooooo

Love Shockey

Does the draft always start at 3, sheesh. Freakin anxious

SammyG 04-26-2008 03:05 PM

Getting Long.

UmbrellaCorporation 04-26-2008 04:07 PM

Yep, Rams got long.

And Jake Long went to the Dolphins. I DID NOT EXPECT THAT AT ALL.

UmbrellaCorporation 04-26-2008 04:13 PM

Matt Ryan to Falcons.

OssMan 04-26-2008 04:18 PM

Yo if the Raiders take Darren McFadden...he is gonna rot there

UmbrellaCorporation 04-26-2008 04:22 PM

McFadden to the Raiders.

OssMan 04-26-2008 04:22 PM

there goes McFadden's career

UmbrellaCorporation 04-26-2008 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Assmani Toomer please (Post 2134985)
Yo if the Raiders take Darren McFadden...he is gonna rot there

yeah, I was kinda thinking that Oakland might grab Dorsey, but nah, didn't happen.

UmbrellaCorporation 04-26-2008 04:29 PM

Dorsey to Chiefs, hmmm.

RP 04-26-2008 04:33 PM

i hope the Jets go Tight End LOL

UmbrellaCorporation 04-26-2008 04:38 PM

Let's see who the Jets take...

Vernon Gholston

OssMan 04-26-2008 04:40 PM

Nice, Vernon Gholston gonna go up against Jake Long twice a year. that's cool, cause they played each other every year in college.

UmbrellaCorporation 04-26-2008 04:41 PM

New England time. This pick is one of the things I've been waiting for the most.

Kris P Lettus 04-26-2008 04:45 PM

I can't wait to see what happens!!!!!!!

UmbrellaCorporation 04-26-2008 04:46 PM

Patriots trade the pick to Saints, and Saints get Sedrick Ellis.

Kris P Lettus 04-26-2008 04:46 PM

Traded with the Pats..

Sedrick Ellis??

Kris P Lettus 04-26-2008 04:46 PM

STFU Kiper

UmbrellaCorporation 04-26-2008 04:47 PM

What do you think, Krispy?

Kris P Lettus 04-26-2008 04:47 PM

Who Dat??

What was the trade exactly??

UmbrellaCorporation 04-26-2008 04:49 PM

Trade involving Javksonville/Baltimore, with Jacksonville taking Ravens 8th pick, and Ravens moving to 26th pick.

what

Kris P Lettus 04-26-2008 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UmbrellaCorporation (Post 2135014)
What do you think, Krispy?

I didn't want to trade up, at all cause I thought we could still get an impact player on D at that tenth pick, but I am happy to get Ellis.. He is a f'n beast.. They said USC had to get bigger weights for him.. 200lbs dumbells..

Also, Coach O (our new DL Coach) recruited him at USC..

I'm happy, depending on what happens with Shockey..

MVP 04-26-2008 04:53 PM

Pats receive 1st round pick (10th overall) and a 3rd round pick

Saints receive 1st round pick (Sedrick Ellis) and a 5th round pick

Nice trade IMO

UmbrellaCorporation 04-26-2008 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kris P Lettus (Post 2135022)
I didn't want to trade up, at all cause I thought we could still get an impact player on D at that tenth pick, but I am happy to get Ellis.. He is a f'n beast.. They said USC had to get bigger weights for him.. 200lbs dumbells..

Also, Coach O (our new DL Coach) recruited him at USC..

I'm happy, depending on what happens with Shockey..

I wasn't really crazy about trading up either, but at least it's a step in the right direction (I think).

As for the trade between NE/NO, I haven't found the exact terms yet. Not sure if they've been specified exactly.

UmbrellaCorporation 04-26-2008 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MVP (Post 2135025)
Pats receive 1st round pick (10th overall) and a 3rd round pick

Saints receive 1st round pick (Sedrick Ellis) and a 5th round pick

Nice trade IMO


...or not. :shifty:

Pretty hot though, on both sides.

UmbrellaCorporation 04-26-2008 04:56 PM

Apparently Jacksonville gets....

Derrick Harvey, DE/Florida.

I really didn't expect that.

UmbrellaCorporation 04-26-2008 04:57 PM

They just showed Keith Rivers at his house freaking out...


Bengals got him, maybe?

UmbrellaCorporation 04-26-2008 05:00 PM

yep, Bengals got Rivers.

NOW it's New England's pick. Pick something good, Pats.

Supreme Olajuwon 04-26-2008 05:01 PM

YEAH SON Rivers is money

Supreme Olajuwon 04-26-2008 05:01 PM

Wow Jaguars gave up a ton to get Harvey

UmbrellaCorporation 04-26-2008 05:01 PM

Wow. Jags got a first round, and the Ravens got a first round, two 3rd rounds, and a 4th round.

UmbrellaCorporation 04-26-2008 05:02 PM

ROFL, what was with the sad looks at the draft party?

Rivers is pretty awesome.

Supreme Olajuwon 04-26-2008 05:03 PM

Pretty sure that feed from the Bengals draft party was not live.

Supreme Olajuwon 04-26-2008 05:04 PM

God shut the fuck up Kiper.

UmbrellaCorporation 04-26-2008 05:05 PM

He gave Rivers a C grade?

o_O

OssMan 04-26-2008 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UmbrellaCorporation (Post 2135040)
ROFL, what was with the sad looks at the draft party?

Rivers is pretty awesome.

Prolly mad lag

UmbrellaCorporation 04-26-2008 05:08 PM

yeah, didn't think that it wasn't live. Beer is getting to my head, haha.

NE picks...Jerod Mayo/LB, right here from Tennessee.

Not surprised they got a LB though. Figured it'd be either LB or Corner.

UmbrellaCorporation 04-26-2008 05:13 PM

Bills get...Leodis McKelvin/CB/Troy.

Not sure about him. Anyone know anything?

MVP 04-26-2008 05:15 PM

Pats might trade the extra 3rd round pick to get an extra 2nd round pick

UmbrellaCorporation 04-26-2008 05:18 PM

Denver's already got their pick cinched up.

Ryan Clady/OT/Boise State.

UmbrellaCorporation 04-26-2008 05:23 PM

And the Panthers already have their pick...

Jonathan Stewart/RB/Oregon.

Wow.

On another note, I love this new 10 minute per pick thing. It's like 249574329659643 times better than the 15 minute ones.

ClockShot 04-26-2008 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skippord (Post 2129975)
Denver

needs: a defense

Boss Bailey was the only high point during the offseason. But yeah, we need to go REALLY heavy on defense. And maybe grab a runningback and bury him for a while. Since we always do magic things with nobody runningbacks.

UmbrellaCorporation 04-26-2008 05:30 PM

And the Bears have their pick...

Betting it's Rashard Mendenhall...

UmbrellaCorporation 04-26-2008 05:31 PM

Bears take...Chris Williams/OT/Vanderbilt.

That's a shocker for me.

UmbrellaCorporation 04-26-2008 05:36 PM

Wonder if the Lions are gonna take a WR in the first round for like the 387th year in a row.

UmbrellaCorporation 04-26-2008 05:37 PM

Whoa, Lions traded to Chiefs. KC is now on the clock.

UmbrellaCorporation 04-26-2008 05:39 PM

And KC chooses...

Branden Albert/OG/Virginia.

He didn't look too happy though.

UmbrellaCorporation 04-26-2008 05:41 PM

and major LOL if the Lions traded down to draft multiple WRs.

UmbrellaCorporation 04-26-2008 05:44 PM

Chiefs get a 1st and a third (76th)

Lions get a 1st (17), 3rd (66), and a 5th

SammyG 04-26-2008 05:45 PM

Kiper is the most annoying piece of shit ever, seriously. Arizona on the clock. They need to give us Anquan Boldin, he wants out. Also, I am loving our defensive line right now. Little, Carriker, Long, and like Ryan/Glover, whatever piece of shit we put in there. Long and Carriker on the same line, yessss.

UmbrellaCorporation 04-26-2008 05:48 PM

Arizona Cardinals take...

Dominique Rodgers Cromartie/CB/here from Tennessee State.

Holy shit, I am happy about that pick.

SammyG 04-26-2008 05:49 PM

Come on Lions, get a WR


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