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BigDaddyCool 05-10-2008 10:57 AM

John Morrison > AJ Styles
 
Before everyone gets on my case for hating AJ Syles, this is coming from a non-hate perspecitve.

I am just saying right now, as of this second with current abs. It seems much more likely that John Morrison could get a world title shot (ECW), if not win it before AJ Styles could get a TNA title shot.

Discuss.

Afterlife 05-10-2008 11:02 AM

John Morrison is fucking amazing. AJ Styles is on TNA.

McLegend 05-10-2008 11:10 AM

John Morrison still a little to green to better then AJ.

Jura 05-10-2008 11:34 AM

I didn't like AJ at first but then I was watching him when some of the TNA wrestlers were in Japan and I started liking him.

FourFifty 05-10-2008 11:52 AM

The man did a moonsault while holding a ladder. The only thing that can top that is if he had a gun that shot lightning.

Kane Knight 05-10-2008 12:22 PM

From a poll about two wrestlers who I like and think are talented, to a poll about two guys I couldn't give a shit about if you paid me...

I voted equal, because shit is shit. Ironically, I'll probably get less criticism for calling both these guys ass than for saying I like Jericho, but think his recent work has been sloppy and sub-par.

Mercury Bullet 05-10-2008 12:34 PM

I think given their current situations, AJ Styles could get a title shot sooner. Simply because he is in TNA and Vince "Bat Swingin' Fool" Russo is at the helm. TNA is sometimes unpredictable, but not in a way thats like "Wow this is exciting!", more of a "What the fuck is going on?"

Mooияakeя™ 05-10-2008 01:28 PM

Both are pretty cool imo. Just wrong time for them, wrong writers for them.

Anybody Thrilla 05-10-2008 01:52 PM

I don't dislike AJ Styles, but I am a huge Morrison mark. I remember liking him all the way back when Tough Enough was on MTV, and he's come such a long way. He's only going to keep getting better, and I am excited at the prospect.

The Optimist 05-10-2008 01:58 PM

Both do crazy moves. Both have a look about them. Morrison can't get over, and can't cut a promo. Styles is a goof who also can't cut a serious promo. They're both pretty much equal.

I wonder how they're trying to book Morrison right now? He's a heel, but he's obviously not doing anything heelish next to beating faces and hanging out with The Miz. I guess that's enough these days? At least Styles has direction, even if it's TNA direction.

The Optimist 05-10-2008 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kane Knight (Post 2149669)
From a poll about two wrestlers who I like and think are talented, to a poll about two guys I couldn't give a shit about if you paid me...

I voted equal, because shit is shit. Ironically, I'll probably get less criticism for calling both these guys ass than for saying I like Jericho, but think his recent work has been sloppy and sub-par.

Is it that you think they're boring or that you don't like their ring-work?

Hanso Amore 05-10-2008 02:10 PM

Morrison shouldnt have been pushed single so quick. He went from being a guy with abs on a team to a single guy with abs. He never really got to Grow into a character. He has gotten much better, but still needs time. I think he can be a main eventer though, and within 2 years.

Styles will never be better than he is now, so I went Morrison.

Anybody Thrilla 05-10-2008 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Optimist (Post 2149718)
I wonder how they're trying to book Morrison right now? He's a heel, but he's obviously not doing anything heelish next to beating faces and hanging out with The Miz. I guess that's enough these days?

I think it's his cocky attitude and feeling that he is better than absolutely everyone that's supposed to make him a heel, but the fact that he actually backs it up does make him a little harder to hate. You know, I'd almost even say that Morrison and Miz are more like tweeners right now.

The Optimist 05-10-2008 02:24 PM

When he was he pushed as a single? ECW counts?

Anybody Thrilla 05-10-2008 02:25 PM

He was an Intercontinental champion (while on Raw) and ECW Champion for a pretty decent amount of time. He went over CM Punk numerous times....are you really going to discredit all of that?

The Optimist 05-10-2008 02:45 PM

I looked at "pushed as a single" with more of a main event in mine. Even then, if you want to talk about being in character, he had to change personas by the time he got to ECW.

Either way. I see where your coming from now, but I don't think that's his only problem. He's yet to come up with a good promo or get over from his looks alone like Jeff Hardy has.


Again, he's absolutely nuts awesome in the ring.

Anybody Thrilla 05-10-2008 02:50 PM

He's got some great charisma. He's hilarious on The Dirt Sheet, but it's hard to cut promos for a character that isn't 'you' (i.e. movie star, rock legend) which is what he has portrayed thus far. At least now they seem to be letting him use some of his own characteristics in his on-screen character. Even Steve Austin was a shity Ringmaster.

Just listen to him and Miz on commentary. Hilarious, both of them.

Mr. JL 05-10-2008 02:51 PM

I remember him doing a split legged moonsault (like RVD used to do) but added a corkscrew twist to it that looked pretty fucking amazing.

Kane Knight 05-10-2008 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Optimist (Post 2149720)
Is it that you think they're boring or that you don't like their ring-work?

Yes.

The Optimist 05-10-2008 03:45 PM

So, both?

The One 05-10-2008 03:45 PM

AJ does AMAZING spots. They're done without build up or warrent, but physically he impresses me with what he can do. John Morrison once did a promo that I didn't totally hate. I'm going with AJ, though neither is worth my nickel.

Kane Knight 05-10-2008 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Optimist (Post 2149833)
So, both?

Yup.

St. Jimmy 05-10-2008 04:19 PM

Morrison is not only more talented in the ring than AJ, he's also better on the stick.

The One 05-10-2008 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by St. Jimmy (Post 2149862)
Morrison is not only more talented in the ring than AJ, he's also better on the stick.

Helen Keller is better on the stick. What's your point?

St. Jimmy 05-10-2008 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The One (Post 2149864)
Helen Keller is better on the stick. What's your point?

Oh, you need a point to make posts in the Wrestling Forum? Did Noid get the memo?

The One 05-10-2008 04:26 PM

Nah, I asked both the Bashams and Val if they would let me tattoo the memo on their stomach, but they said no. So I ran out of ideas of how to get it in front of Noid's eyes.

Anybody Thrilla 05-10-2008 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The One (Post 2149864)
Helen Keller is better on the stick. What's your point?

I thought it was fairly obvious that the point was to compare John Morrison and AJ Styles, as the thread encourages, you silly goose!

St. Jimmy 05-10-2008 04:27 PM

well for Val it would be the stomach, but for Doug you should try a Tramp Stamp.

Anybody Thrilla 05-10-2008 04:27 PM

All I know is if there were a thread comparing two wrestlers I didn't like or care about, I probably wouldn't post in it.

The One 05-10-2008 04:30 PM

If I didn't post in a thread with wrestlers that I didn't care about I would have like 3 posts by this point. :p

Anybody Thrilla 05-10-2008 04:32 PM

Three very excellent posts they'd be, I'm sure.

The One 05-10-2008 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by St. Jimmy (Post 2149873)
well for Val it would be the stomach, but for Doug you should try a Tramp Stamp.

Noid butches Doug? I guess Doug just got use to being on bottom in WWE.

The One 05-10-2008 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 2149881)
Three very excellent posts they'd be, I'm sure.

The best burger in the world or McDonalds? I'm going for brand recognition with Tovo Inc. :y:

Anybody Thrilla 05-10-2008 04:38 PM

Coca Cola....McDonald's.....Vincent Chase

The One 05-10-2008 04:40 PM

LoL! I just watched that episode the other day over at a friends house.

(P.S. need to spread some rep around, but I'll hit ya for it)

KingofOldSchool 05-10-2008 06:59 PM

Morrison's improving his character through The Dirt Sheet and AJ I just found to be totally overrated.

Porcupine 05-10-2008 07:23 PM

John Morrison's abs >>>> Joey Styles entire career.

#BROKEN Hasney 05-11-2008 05:09 AM

John Morriosn doesn't allow comparisons to AJ Styles in the Palace of Wisdom.

Kane Knight 05-11-2008 07:14 AM

Why are so many people gay for Morrison's abs?

BigDaddyCool 05-11-2008 10:17 AM

Because they are gaytastic.

Johnny Vegas 05-11-2008 01:08 PM

I love Morrison to death (i think his ring ability is very underrated) but he
needs more edge to his character. Rockstars feel like they can do what
they want and thats what he needs to do. If they want to make him look
credible, have him almost upset HHH for the title on RAW. I'm talking
**** type of match with HHH barely escaping.

NoRoolz 05-11-2008 01:21 PM

I really like both of them.

But I went with AJ, don't get me wrong; Morrison's ring work is awesome, but AJ's is marginally better IMO. Some of the spots he pulls of are incredible, he rarely botches, and sells moves brilliantly.

What is it people (TPWW) don't like about AJ? I mean usually I can at least understand the reasons for disliking a wrestler if not agreeing with them, but when I watch an AJ match there's usually very little wrong with it and it'll be fast-paced and exciting.

Only bad things about AJ are that his promo abilities aren't great, and for some reason he's in midcard hell at the moment with a weak version of his 2004 gimmick.

Dunno.

Afterlife 05-11-2008 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kane Knight (Post 2150505)
Why are so many people gay for Morrison's abs?

Because they're hot.

Afterlife 05-11-2008 03:01 PM

Ya homo. :shifty:

Jeritron 05-11-2008 07:26 PM

I like both. I think Morrison might have a more promising future though, because he's in the WWE and they seem to be high on him. Not to mention AJ Styles seems to have been around and utilized in a high place on the card for a while now and I doubt he's going to click anymore than he already has.

He's a great wrestler, but his character is like Brian Christopher.
He'll prob be the next guy outside of the already established guys in TNA to get a world title push, but it will be too late.
If he were to come to WWE, he'd prob get over as hell for a while, but never go far.

Kane Knight 05-11-2008 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoRoolz (Post 2150637)
What is it people (TPWW) don't like about AJ? I mean usually I can at least understand the reasons for disliking a wrestler if not agreeing with them, but when I watch an AJ match there's usually very little wrong with it and it'll be fast-paced and exciting.

People have issues with him because he's a spot monkey. Which would be a little less funny if there wasn't a collective Jeff Hard-on.

Mind, I don't really hate either of them. I just can't be arsed to care about either. I'd give a nod to Styles over Morrison because TNA's shitty following was largely built up in no small part to AJ. However, Styles is kind of average, and Morrison is kind of average.

Kenny 05-11-2008 10:13 PM

I personally would have to go with AJ Styles simply because he seems to be more fluent in the ring.

This is something to keep in mind though. AJ Styles has been toned down by TNA, and Morrison has been toned down even more by the WWE. Ever since AJ has been a heel he hasn't been half as amazing as he used to me in the ring (probably to avoid pops) and Morrison works for the WWE, so he's only allowed to be amazing once a year at Wrestlemania.


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