Which is more unforgivable...and be honest.
 

First of all, it's unforgivable. Secondly, this is the dumbest question of all time if you want people to answer this seriously, come on.

Hogan is self centered? Wow who gives a fuck? He ain't killing anyone.

And he is the reason a ton of guys have fucking jobs today.

As much as i hate hogan, holding just about anybody in the business back as apposed to killing ur own family is not even close really.

Not even close by a wiiide margin. If Hogan ever kills somebody though, then the scales might tip his way.

Sure, Hogan was an asshole and ruined dozens of people's careers. That's pretty shitty. Strangling your own son, though, is just about the worst thing a person can do. So it's no contest at all.

I'm gonna say Hogan was worse. At least Benoit took himself out.

Yes

Hogan's whole life of being a total shit head or Benoit's completely abberant psychotic behavior at the end of his life?

Benoit had gone insane, Hogan does all this while completely in control of himself.

You don't know Benoit was mad. And I don't give a fuck if he was (which will never be proven and is only debated by people who want to believe he was), he killed 2 people. Bottom line.

Get a life pal.

Good fucking god, afterlife.

No amount of being a dickbag can surpass killing your wife, and 7 year old son, even if you're somewhat unstable.

But I KNOW that Hulk Hogan is not. Therefore I am less likely to forgive him than someone who MIGHT have been off his nut.

So all murderers shouldn't be jailed or whatever because they are mentally insane then.

Don't stress. It's forgivable for anyone to murder people because you aren't mentally right. Obviously in the fucking millions of murders in the history of the world, every single killer was mentally ill. Should never do jail time because they should be given insanity pleas. 9/11 was fine by the way. The terrorists were mental so it's forgivable.

I'd rather someone be a dick to me than kill me. That's just me though.

It's absolutely no wonder why people in the real world think wrestling fans are the fucking scum of the Earth. Only wrestling fans can defend murderers.

I don't expect people who defend murderers to understand.

And I don't fuck a flying fuck if you think I look like a jerk, dick or a cunt. I will absolutely NEVER believe all murderers are nuts. Simple as that. You got a problem with it? Tell someone who cares.

What Benoit did is more unforgiveable as a double murder suicide can't really be compared with just being an arrogant, selfish cunt doing prickish things.

However, I do believe Benoit was no way in his right mind and if he would have stopped after killing his family, I believe he'd have ended up in some sort of mental institution.

Benoit did something unforgiveable realistically, but in my belief was always a good person.
Hogan has done a lot of bad things, but only minor, but to me, has always been a cunt.

Hulk Hogan didn't do any good for anyone in the wrestling business either did he? Only helped at least 20 guys have careers for a start. Also made a ton of guys in the late 80s have good 6 figure bank accounts because he was selling out shows like a rock star.

WCW - only helped turned the entire company around and they were profitable for the only time in their history when he was on top. Also made even more guys millionaires. Bryan Adams for example got a $800,000 a year deal because he was connected with Hulk Hogan and Randy Savage. He wasn't getting 1/4 of that in the WWF.

So he didn't do a job? Who gives a shit. Like Billy Kidman should have been a fucking main eventer or something. It's the wrestling business. It's all politics and backstabbing. If you don't know what you are getting into then you are a fucking moron. He got himself a deal where he had creative control and a huge guarantee sum of money on every show. How does this make him a bad person? It shows WCW were fucking idiots for giving him the deal. Sometimes he should have lost to someone to make them a bigger star so he could make more money with them on top and he didn't. Bad decision yes. Bad person? Fuck no.

Honestly amongst carnies? Come on now. No wonder the fans are called marks.

What a stupid fucking question. And I'm not saying that because it's "easy to answer," either. There are just too many things to take into consideration, and the two options really have nothing to do with each other. They are tragedies for entirely different reasons.

Hey 9 people think refusing to do a job to Billy Kidman and Bret Hart is worse than killing a child. These are the people you are dealing with here brother.

Fuck, I voted on the wrong one. Hogan has done nothing compared to Benoit.

He refused to do a job!!!!! How is that nothing?

He held people down, yeah, but he didn't ruin any careers or anything. Everyone he held down ended up being successful eventualy anyways, so I don't see how he's done that much damage to the industry.

And despite his douchebaggery, he did more to help the industry in the 80's, than he ever did to hurt it in subsequent years.

lol this poll is closer than Taz vs. Sabu.

Maybe this should be between Benoit and Bret Hart. Wooooo!

how is this even a thread

god i didn't even read it. some of you are fucking worthless human beings.

Seriously, I can understand why the IWC doesn't like the guy, but they blow his negatives WAYYYYYYY out of proportion.

I never read anything that said Benoit was mad.

Benoit.

To forgive I'd need to understand, and nothing will ever make me understand it. Hogan is a complete cunt, both in this business and his conduct (especially lately) out of it. But I can understand cunts. I don't understand someone who could murder their child.

After further introspection, I think my opinion is closest to Noid's. There's too many variables to give this question a suffient answer.

(I did lean toward Hogan at first.)

Rob, you've said some stupid shit during this argument.

Like what? Murdering someone is worse than refusing to do a job? Yeah I agree it's stupid. Triple-H should be allowed to kill whoever the fuck he wants as long as he puts over Chris Jericho or Jeff Hardy.

That's the point really. Nobody is saying "is double-murder-suicide worse than being a monumentally selfish prick bastard." The question boils down to who you can forgive. It's entirely possible, if not proven, that Benoit did what he did because of a physically traumatic career, marital difficulty, the loss of one of his best friends, the possibility of a child with a rare and emotionally taxing disease, and a demotion to ECW ( :shifty: ). Tovo is damn right in this respect, none of us has ANY idea what that could be like, so I'm not about to say I can't forgive him.

Hulk Hogan on the other hand damages people's careers and liveliehoods, and suggested that the kid whose son his life destroyed deserved what he got.

I don't know if I can forgive Benoit. I do know I ain't forgiving Hogan. Hence, my vote.

As an aside, I can see Benoit actually asking forgiveness if, you know, he weren't dead. Can you see Hogan ever repenting?

I also would like to point out for the record that refusing to job to Kidman and Hart are, in my view, points FOR Hogan, not against him.

How the fuck are there 12 votes for Hogan. COME ON.

So Benoit is hiding out with Brian Pillman in the greatest worked-shoot in history?

I'm just dumbfounded as to how this became a proper discussion.

Cena sucks.

okay seriously. i don't give a fuck if chris benoit was insane when he killed his family. he was insane due to his own actions taken over the course of his wrestling career. he chose to live the life of a wrestler. he chose to take the drugs. he chose to work the hours. so to defend his actions as those of a madman is both retarded and pointless. IN THE END IT IS HIS FAULT.

and even so hogan not jobbing affected, what, the wrestling business? what is the wrestling business compared to human lives being taken? not shit. it's not shit compared to almost anything, but especially murder.

I only voted for Hogan because Hogan made me. He doesn't want to job to Benoit even in this poll.

Also, if people can claim that Benoit is "let-off" because he's crazy, how can you still vote for Hogan? I'd need reports proving he's not crazy.

afterlife you're missing the point

I figured I'd be the only guy to vote Hogan.

You fucking idiot. There wouldn't even be the business like it is today without Hulk Hogan. Wrestlemania would have failed without him for a start and put WWF out of business. Hulk Hogan on top drew fucking insane money. What careers did he destroy? Look at every single wrestler in the WWF in 80's and early 90's. They made huge money because of Hulk Hogan. He always looked after his buddies too in the sense they always had jobs.

Wrestling fans are fucking idiots.

Don't bother Rob, I had a similar discussion about Hogan and at the end of the day Hogan is the anti-christ...apparently.

I'd just like to know whose career he DESTROYED!!!

BROTHER BROTHER BROTHER

Obviously all these people who voted for Hogan too would be pissed for life if he cost them £50 but if Chris Benoit killed their family they'd forgive him.

lol it doesn't matter if it's what he wanted. he still did it to himself. and i never said it was on purpose. it was just the toll that his lifestyle took on him. to try and take that away and pretend like he was an innocent bystander in his mind's decay is ridiculous.

most of them overdosed before they had a chance to go crazy.

and that's not at all what i'm saying, but you can pretend like it is.

Do junkies go on killing sprees? Nope. They do more drugs than Chris Benoit did and their minds are more fucked. The stuff about his lifestyle is bullshit. No other wrestlers have killed their families.

There is ZERO proof his mind was fucked. ZERO.

i'm not saying his mind was fucked. i'm just arguing the point that even if his mind was fucked for a lot of the reasons i've heard that doesn't give him an excuse.

So if someone who was mental or out of their head on drugs killed your parents or your kids, you'd be able to forgive them right?

Yeah sorry I know. Was meant to just follow on from your post.

BAH GAWD! INVERTED OCCAMS RAZOR!

Is that legal?

LET LOGIC BE DAMNED! ITS STILL REAL TO ME, DAMMIT!

I'm not pretending anything. :wtf:

Okay you'd forgive a murderer who killed your family.

We need a new poll - Is Afterlife a lying fuck?

I'm not trying to look smart. Unlike yourself, I don't feel the urge to try and push my intellect on others to boost my own ego.

Here it is as clear as day - Benoit killed two people. Not cool with me. Hulk Hogan made himself millions of dollars, built a company which is mega profitable today and giving many people who grew up watching him a great lifestyle. This is fine by me. You saying you'd forgive a person who killed your family is a blatant lie. You know it. I know it. And everyone reading this thread knows it.

Feel free to continue your babbling now.

i still want to know how the fuck this is a real thread

Technically, it isn't. :lol: