Wow, Vince is a knob
 

Nice boss Charlie's got there. If you think he's boring Vince, your a little delusional cause he's not half as lame as watching you try to be entertaining. On the bright side for Haas, he's getting paid lots and doesn't have to put much effort in cause Vince is too much of a 'sports entertainer' to use him to his full potential.

You definitely know your promotion is in trouble when even Ric Flair has retired.

Charlie Haas IS boring.

Beyond that... when you're attempting to bribe people to watch your show, you should already know you're in trouble.

LOL. yeah, Vince is a knob for thinking Charlie is boring. That's the problem.

Why is it shocking to you to find out Vince is a knob?

I dunno. I think Haas is pretty fun. :-\

All those segments with vince were PAINFUL.

This was awesome!

Why is it shocking to him to find out someone finds Haas boring?

(Seriously, before anyone gets too butthurt, I like Haas. He's awesome in the ring. But he's the kind of guy who gets labeled with "No Charisma" because people think wrestling is dumb and judge a guy based on his promos. Is it really that surprising that Vince, who cares about things like "workrate" every bit as much as your average Hulkamaniac, finds Haas boring?)

I'm not surprised at all, just shocked that others find it surprising that Vince should be like this. Wasn't aiming that post at you btw kk but the OP..

Note I said 'him,' rather than 'you.' I think it's fairly clear who I was aiming at. Or at least, who I wasn't aiming at.

So... he's giving away a million dollars each week on RAW?

Wow

I still find the fact that storyline of him getting killed came at the best time :D

I personally find Haas interesting. He reminds me of one of those jocks who also got straight A's, and all the pussy in high school. Also, it's great that Vince keeps Haas hired if he finds him so boring.

I hate to exploit real life pain, but if they wanted to get some emotion out of Haas, and get the fans behind him, just tell the story of his brother passing away under WWE contract. Pretty much his RC Haas gimmick in the development territories.

That ship has sailed. A long time ago.

I remember seeing the Haas Brothers at Axxess before WM18 I think it was, they were awesome, had a peculiar cult following as well.

Its funny that inside source says its gettin like wCw....

i recently read Death of wCw, the wrestlecrap book, and it actually said in there that wCw planned to give away a million $$$ on certain shows, but cancelled the idea before it ever got sorted. Its wierd how both companies thought of ways to increase ratings without looking at the wrestling itself first, or the wrestlers!

TBH that show was horrible! The best bit of it was when you heard a kid shout out BORING!! when vince got the number wrong the 3rd time i think.

Is WWE really going the way wCw did?? your thoughts please.....

I dont think Vince is as obssesed with ratings as Bischof was either, obviously they are important for various reasons, but Bishcof was too hung up on them.

Vince is accountable in the loosest sense only. He passes the buck internally. Hell, he passed it publically. As far as complete control, that's utter bullshit. If he had complete control, shit he wasn't aware of wouldn't get on TV so often. You know, like Cruiserweights.

Between Vince and Linda, they're not getting out-voted, overturned, vetoed, or burned at the stake.

Easy.

Vince McMahon can't get overturned, but that isn't the same as actually being aware of and controlling every aspect of his empire. Accepting that even a tenth of the news reports are true, a lot of shit gets on TV that Vince doesn't know about, let alone approve of. He's not vetoed, he's not overruled, he's just sometimes distant and out of touch with his own company.

I'm not even sure why you'd think the two were similar enough to be contradictory.

From what I gather, Vince is only hands-on with his TV product at the main event level, and has been since the 80s. The undercarders are just mechanics, cogs in the wheel, left to somebody elses devices.

Anytime the WWE product has had a hot undercard scene, it has been thanks to talented bookers/writers other than Vince, such as Pat Patterson, Vince Russo, Terry Garvin et al.

Not saying he takes NO interest, just a passing interest.

Now that makes perfect sense. :y:

You'd think wrong, then, because that's not how business structures work.

rofl

lol

Yes. It's called learning. You should try some once in a while.

I mean, the best part is most of these things you don't understand are very easy to research, very simply explained, and readily available.

They still seem to be beyond you, but then, that's hardly a shock.

I myself have had atleast one civil conversation with KK.

You're lying because it's inconvenient to Afterlife and his usual made up arguments. :D