Ric Flair.... YOU'RE FIRED!
 

Yeah he is gone from WWE. Available for indy bookings now. Hopefully we see him in CZW or some backyard fed soon.

Vince Russo just creamed himself.

He'll be Nick Flare in TNA in no time. MOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

If Flair wrestles again, he is a mug.

Zandig could hire him for CZW...

but it'd be a lame show because he wouldn't be able to afford anyone else.

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Ryan Clark, confirmed pedophile/fetish for chunky black men.

:rofl:

Seriously laughed at "MOOOO".

Don't need one. It happened.

When Meltzer or someone else posts it, you can apologise for doubting me then.

I'm surprised, but I'm not.

Surprised that Trips/HBK etc didn't succeed in trying to save him (if they fired him) or retain him (if he quit).

Not surprised if it turns out Flair wants to step back in the ring, and WWE said no.

It's mainly on the fact that WWE refused to let him work wherever he wanted. Now he can and WWE still has the option to bring him in, assuming he doesn't go to TNA.

The guy wants to make appearances they wouldnt let him do, I am pretty sure thats the only reason he is leaving. I doubt he disgraces his legacy by going to TNA.

Yet he readily disgraced his legacy by wrestling for 15 years beyond his sell-by date.

Realistically, it's a very distant possibility because of his relationship with Hunter.

But you know TNA would try to cash in on one more Flair/Sting match and I'm positive they'll attempt to get him.

I had a dream he was released by the WWE last night. Amazing.

Jeez, your dreams suck dick...

Damn, just saw it listed on wrestling-edge.com

Maybe now he can do a ROH appearance.

Apparently it's a perfectly amicable seperation. Wouldn't surprise me if these sites are jumping the gun, and all that's happened is a renegotiation and Flair is being shifted to a Legends deal instead of a talent contract, to allow him to make outside appearances whilst still legally committed to the WWE (ie. he won't need their permission to make appearances at conventions, ceremonies, independant shows etc., yet will still make appearances for WWE when required and will be unable to contractually commit to a competitor like TNA).

WOOO!

If Flair requested this release, he's mad. He will never earn as much as he was making with WWE anywhere else, he's in financial ruins as it is, he was on a guaranteed wage for the next three years and he's lived outside of his means for the last thirty years as it is with his legit "nature boy" lifestyle.

I read that he's hoping to pursue television and film roles... "hoping" certainly is the operative word. The slurring, befuddled man that Flair is today has no hope... ten years ago, I'd have said give the man his own series! But not today.

Quick! Dream that Maria's hot sister and Trish Stratus and her tiny purple bikini both tag team me in bed!

I don't ever wanna see Ric Flair wrestling for another company, would be complete shit.

I HAVE PREDICTED THE FUTURE.

ALL HAIL BAD COMPANY!

ROH

TNA! TNA! Flair comes to retire sting...how bizzare.

Thank you Flair.

Ric Flair for Celebrity Big Brother.

I'm The Nature Boy, Get me Out of Here!

Appearances are fine, heck even love for him to start calling a few matches, get involved promoting a company that practices decent wrestling etc.

But if he gets in the ring.... pfft. Come on, he aint that stupid? IS HE?

to bad he did not leave before he was put in the nwa hall of fame. i can see him work for tna, i see another sting flair match.

Still doubting me JT?

I guess this guy just doesn't realise who the fuck you are, Bert.

I do. :love:

We do not wish Ric Flair the best in his future endeavors, because quite frankly, he has none left.

Stick this thread in the "Rob is wrong" folder.

Oh wait...

http://www.tpww.net/forums/showthread.php?t=8318

:shifty:

Leslie Nielsen could always use a stunt double...

Did Cena main event that show? Nope.

And it was an opinion and I was right. Me telling news and stating opinion are two different things. Learn the difference.

Yeah that would've been better timing.

Not really surprised by this though.

I hope it works out for him, his name will be synonymous with the business for as long as I can forsee but it does seem a risky move. Hopefully the Legends deal will come through but I'm a little disappointed, would have loved to have seen him as a manager and using that to pass the 'Nature Boy' mantle onto another guy, whether that would be a poisoned chalice is something that none of us could really measure.

Apparently Flair has been forced to turn down something like 100 appearances for $10,000 each since he's been retired. Now that he has been released, apparently he has 350 or so offers lined up, and there's sort of a bidding war going on for him.

He'll be fine financially.

I know Maria has a sister, but I wasn't aware she was hot (although chances are very high). Do you have a photo of her?

ROH will probably try to get him to make an appearance... It'd be awesome if they did. There was a strong rumor (not really a rumor as Gabe said it, but it may have been in jest), that they originally wanted to have Ric Flair and Kenta Kobashi appear together on a show/ shake hands, etc. Would be pretty surreal.

There's absolutely nothing suspicious about that hearsay.

I still win :o

I heard he's actully already worked 278 shows since his release a few days ago.

:eek:

Win by being wrong?

I braved the spam-infested and pop-up-filled hell that is TheWrestlingAnswer.com's galleries. So can you.

Those appearances will dry up sooner than later though. A promoter paying through the nose to bring Flair in once or maybe even twice could make sense, even if it means that particular show makes a loss, but both the lessening novelty appeal of having Flair plus the hit to the company coffers would make the whole deal less enticing by the third, or fourth, or tenth time at the money he's looking for.

Flair may be able to command that kind of asking price at the moment but when he's done the rounds a few times, the only drawing card he'll have left to play with is another match. And if that happens, then fuck him.

Flair couldn't live the Ric Flair lifestyle within his means when he was making HUGE money as one of the top performers in the business. How the fuck will he be able to now? His WWE return / TNA debut will be imminent as soon as his realises that the small-time wrestling business cannot afford to keep throwing big money his way. It's a sad tale, and I have a feeling it will all end with Flair dropping dead in the ring during his 78th comeback match against Greg Valentine in somebody's back yard.

YOu need to calculate forein bookings as well. He could draw this out for a long time and make a killing. Especially if he hold seminars to show the indy workers some of his years of knowledge (which most guys coming out odf the WWE can charge 500 a pop (Eugene for example) Flair could charge a crazy amount.) Flair could mnake a killing rarely showing up from place to place around the world for a good 5 years.

That's a maybe, but look at the price he is supposedly charging. The majority of independent wrestling promoters make a loss or about break even. Those willing to pay him big, big bucks on a regular basis are few and far between. Some schools pay guys to come in for seminars in the hope it will increase the number of students at the school and therefore make them more money in the long run. How many wrestling schools do you think have $10K laying around to pay Flair to come in? Unless those running the schools are just marks willing to pay that much just to book Flair, they won't see a great return on that kind of investment.

The divide between the companies making money in the business, globally, and the lower-end companies that are just about scraping by is huge. In theory, Flair could travel the world for years appearing in different towns and cities, but who will promote him?

Maybe he's been in the top dollar WCW/WWE fishbowls for so long, he doesn't realise that beyond the big names of the industry (and some select indies), wrestling is a pretty small-time business in the 21st century.

Nah bro, not a maybe. And I'm not talking school, I'm talking seasoned vets are going to cough up the dough to hear Flair. There's no maybe to that. Futhermore in a seminar scenrio he isn't going to ask the promoter for a dollar amount, he'll charge the individuals interested in it. Guys do this all the time. Guys who don't have a fraction of the rep Flair does. You're really underestimating the drawing power of the single greatest performer the buisness have ever seen. And that's not just a national perception, it's global. He can from one side of the globe to the other doing this, and if you think that's a maybe you clearly haven'y seen how far jobbers from the WWE ride this method to sucess. And we're talking RIC FUCKING FLAIR here. Seriously.

You could put Flair's pic on a flyer and draw.

I am?

Flair ceased to be a major draw twenty years ago, while he was still an active performer. You saying he's a bigger draw now, as a retired ex-wrestler?

As far as training/seminars etc go, yes I can see your point, but I don't know just how much juice is there to be squeezed. I think you OVERestimate the appeal of bringing in a 60yr old man, who hasn't got his finger on the pulse of today's business, who is 15 yrs removed from his prime, who has only ever trained one wrestler in his career (and that was Stan Lane, hardly a household name) at that kind of asking price.

I agree that Flair should be a go-to guy in the training of new guys in the business at the very least for his psychology... but the fact is, if Vince McMahon has considered Flair old-hat for the last decade or so (he told him he was "too 80s" when Flair inquired about his lack of push over the last couple years) and Flair hasn't displayed any aptitude for wrestling the way the top companies in 2008 expect to see it, then from the perspective of "how am I going to make it big in this business and make serious money?" then Flair doesn't really strike you as a guy you need to learn from.

And I know that might sound ridiculous to a long-time fan, but when you stop and really think it through, it would be just like paying one of those jobber guys you mentioned to come in and train you. They never achieved anything in the business; why would you want to learn to be just like them? In Flair's case, the business past him by and he spent his last decade living off a name and reputation he earned years ago, and his style, both inside the ring and out of it, no longer appeals to the decision makers in today's business... so why would you pay to learn it??

And to clarify, I'm saying this as a huge Flair fan, and I know mark wrestlers would pay to learn from him, but personally I don't think Flair's cup runneth over with potential in the training seminar scenario.

He'll drink all his money away anyway drinking kamikazes all night.

Do you expect true things to come out of Destor's mouth/keyboard?

I guess so... :-\

Well, I don't think he's WRONG per se, just short-sighted.

Flair will make some big money making independant appearances, for sure, but it will dry up pretty soon in my view. The shelf life is shorter than Destor (and probably even Flair) realises for these "big money" appearances.

Erm... what?