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New Red Dwarf episode announced
Robert Llewellyn (the actor who portrays Kryten) has announced that a brand new episode of Red Dwarf is being filmed in OCTOBER (just a few weeks away!)
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Hopefully it will be broadcast on TV, but the involvement of BBC Worldwide could indicate a DVD-exclusive episode. Either way, this is fucking awesome (yet scary) news. Hopefully it will be a good old classic Dwarf story and lead to renewed interest from the BBC for a new series, but considering it has been ten years, the cast are much older, greyer and balder, and the last two series were ripped to shred by both critics and fans alike... this could also turn out to be the final nail in the coffin. Even if it is, at least we finally get to actually see the final nail rather than have to speculate forever over the cliffhanger ending to series 8 (although in traditional Red Dwarf style they probably will just brush that one off by ignoring it or giving a short, throwaway explanation and start anew anyways). |
This could be really bad, Dwarf got very stale towards the end.
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The last 2 series were utter shite. They should leave it well enough alone. |
I dunno... series 7 was weak on the comedy front, but then it was designed as more of a comedy-drama anyway, deliberately.
I actually really liked series 8, I don't know why it gets knocked so much. They changed the premise entirely but at the same time went back to an earlier-series feel with character based humour and Rimmer-Lister banter, and the isolated and trapped feel of the earlier shows with them being imprisoned. I guess most people just don't like change and don't want to embrace it, even though after 'Earth' was dropped, the original ending to series 8 (which never aired in favour of a cliffhanger ending) returned them back to the original premise of being alone on the ship anyway. It was still funny, but a different kind of humour... not classic Dwarf but still amusing. |
I'll believe it when I see it. And even then I'm not holding out much hope of it being good.
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Apparently it won't air until 2009... disappointing, but still whoo hoo.
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Hmmm, we'll see, im excited but worried at the same time.
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Is this before or after they make the movie they've been promising the last 10 years, on and off....
Don't hold much hope for it. Towards the end it just ran out of the unique characters, situations and comedy that had been its strongpoint. The introduction of that fuking Kochanski woman did it no favours either. |
The movie is completely off the cards. No funding, no distributor, no chance.
Maybe this special will prove there is still mass interest in the show which will give the movie a kick up the arse. Lots of American studios were interested in a Red Dwarf movie, but with a new cast. One even suggested Hugh Grant as Lister and Emma Thompson as Kochanski. No joke. |
I fuckin hate america for stuff like that, fucking completely redoing shows like red dwarf the way they want, DOES NOT FUCKING WORK.
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Have you ever seen the US remake of the series?? Terrible. Jane 'Daphne from Frasier' Leeves as Holly, Craig Bierko as Lister, and Terry Farrell from Star Trek as a female Cat.
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Yeah thats an extra on one of the DVD's. It was fucking terrible. |
I've been playing "Better Than Life" since the series ended.
Bring me out when the new special airs. |
I'm hopeful. I don't think a new series will happen though, simply because Craig Charles is not going to give up a long term position on Corrie to come back and do one series of Red Dwarf.
But a one off special, with the right script, could be the farewell the show deserves. |
By the way, the latest rumours (stress rumours) are that we're getting four new episodes to air on digital channel Dave early next year.
It will be a new story, but interspersed with classic clips. Hopefully the story will be self contained so they can mash it all together for a DVD release. The clip show format has taken the shine off a little bit, but it's still new Dwarf so that's pretty much good enough for now. |
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I really can't wait to see new red dwarf episodes, dunno it might just be cause of nostalgia or something. |
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Whilst he is unlikely to choose a Dwarf series over Corrie, I do think he'd be a fool not to leave the soap to film the long delayed movie should it go ahead now. The financial reward, future earning potential and international stardom that the film would create would be more lucrative than a job which would probably allow him to come back a year down the line if he so wished anyway. |
I'm looking forward to this but I'm not going to get excited about it, just incase it turns out to be a glorified clipshow.
'Allo 'Allo did the clipshow reunion a few years ago and I'm sure another sitcom did it to but the name escapes me. So I think there is a chance it could essentially be a clipshow of some kind. I hope not though. According to Robert Llewellyn, nothing else has been revealed other than the fact there is a new Red Dwarf "something" in the making: <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/2YOd7SrFUOI&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/2YOd7SrFUOI&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object> |
Details have been revealed, officially, by Grant Naylor Productions on their official Red Dwarf website:
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I'm so happy I could hug a lion.
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Smoke me a kipper
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The latest on the specials... filming starts next week, and Holly will not be featured in the new episodes. Actor Norman Lovett is so miffed, having kept his diary free for filming upon the insistance of the shows producers, that he has officially stated he will never be involved with any future Red Dwarf project again.
Kochanski also appears to be missing from the new episodes, so we will just have the core cast of Rimmer, Lister, Cat and Kryten. And apparently the budget is painfully small. |
Wow. They actually told him to keep his schedule (I refuse to call it a diary, as diaries are for 8 year old girls) open for filming and actually stiffed him?
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Yep. And stiffed him the week before filming, via "a pathetic little e-mail from Grant Naylor Productions".
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Budget constraints being the reason.
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Apparently the mystery fourth episode, the "clip show with a difference", will actually be Red Dwarf Unplugged, an improvisation game show along the lines of Whose Line Is It Anyway? where the cast will attempt to recreate classic scenes from the show from memory. Could be awful, could be genius.
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Yeah that could really go either way... |
I'm quite confident it will actually be good, we're not talking a bunch of luvvie actors here, these guys are comedians in their own right, and if you've ever seen the outtakes of Red Dwarf, some of the 'smeg ups' are nearly as funny as the show itself.
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Well it was better back in the days when the budget was tiny, not holding out too much hope mind could easily fuck this up.
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Yeah, i suppose the writers, if they have the talent, produce scripts of a higher quality when the budget means they can't distract the viewer with an explosion or exotic alien every 10 minutes.
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They've always struggled with budget so the fact that they're having to write characters out of the new shows implies that we're talking a severely tiny budget. |
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You beat me to it. They aren't actually going to call the new series "Red Dwarf: Back to Earth" are they? Surely that's a bit of a spoiler. I'm guessing the "no holds barred" thing is what Robert Llewelyn was talking about in his latest video. He says we can get tickets for it eventually.
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Yes well it's only a two-parter, and that's the theme of the episodes so it makes sense for that to be the title. It doesn't neccessarily mean what we think, though. There is apparently "a twist"... hmmm...
This could be a finale for the show, drawing a line under it, or it could just be a big tease left open-ended for future episodes. I would imagine what Doug Naylor will do is produce an episode which, if another is never made, will stand-up as closure to the story, a proper ending for Red Dwarf... yet leaving the door open for future shows at the same time. |
I think it may be a way of wrapping things up. I've heard it said that there is deffinitly no movie now. So, I'm guessing the specials are a way of ending the thing completely.
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Rimmer just ain't Rimmer without the unruly curly hair. S'pose Chris Barrie can't help going bald though. |
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I pray that is just an advert they're filming there, with the actor being swiped away from his current role for comic-effect.
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Well it was only one day's filming on the set, so highly doubt it would be much more than one or two spoof scenes.
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It's still real to me, dammit...
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Haha Chris Barrie the only one who looks properly older
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Yet another Robert Llewelyn video. He says the usual Red Dwarf stuff but he does mention the leaked images.
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Chris Barrie looks a lot better in this one. It seems the previous photos were rather unflattering angles. Okay, he's balder than he used to be, but not as markedly as it looked in other pics plus that is the Rimmer face right there. He remembers how to be Rimmer! Which is a relief after his cartoonish overacting in series VIII. |
The latest: Unplugged has been cancelled, Back To Earth is now a three-part episode.
Also, there is a new cast member in the shape of the lovely Sophie Winkleman (Big Suze from Peep Show). http://img.listal.com/image/418761/1...-winkleman.jpg |
I wonder why it was cancelled. Was the cast just not up for it? Was it a budget thing or did they think there wouldn't be enough interest?
Is that woman going to play a new character or is she replacing someone. Like a new Holly or Kochanzki? I'm asking so many questions. |
The official word is that there was too much story to cram into two episodes... the plan was always to release an extended version on DVD, but when it became apparent that there was too much vital material that couldn't be cut from the two-parter without ruining the story, they decided to drop Unplugged and use the time and money alloted to that to make a third episode.
Winkleman's role hasn't been confirmed, but wouldn't bet against her playing Kochanski. |
I would be suprised to see her play Holly if they told Norman Lovett he wasn't needed, so it would more than likely be Kochanski unless they write her out pretty quickly. Although given that Chole Annett never really did a bad job, and her career has hardly been stunning since the end of Red Dwarf, I would be suprised if they decided not to offer her the job or she decided to turn it down. I guess we'll find out.
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Fairly sure Chloe Annett is pretty much retired.
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Well, the nature of Sophie Winkleman's role is no longer a speculation point.
http://static.dave.uktv.co.uk/site_m...na-465x386.jpg She is playing Katerina, a former science officer aboard Red Dwarf resurrected as a hologram, who is intent on taking Rimmer's place as the ship hologram (Red Dwarf's power supplies can only sustain one hologram on a permanent basis) |
Between all the recent news, the fact that these new episodes seem to have some kind of meta-fiction element, the fact that Doug Naylor seems intent on developing and adding to the Red Dwarf mythos rather than churning out a standalone story which could have fitted into a previous series, and some stunning looking photographs around the 'net of costumes, sets, locations.... all my worries about teeny weeny budgets, low production values and a lame effort have been 100% alleviated.
This is not a glorified clipshow. This is not the characters sitting in a cheap imitation set, churning out fanboy references and resurrecting tired old alter egos and running gags. This is brand new Red Dwarf, a decade later, with new characters, new twists, fantastic sets and according to all sources, brimming with hilarious gags and gripping storylines. Plus, Red Dwarf is following the recent trends of televised comedy and rather than play it safe and go back to the 'tried and tested' formula of old, this mini-series will NOT be filmed in front of an audience and will NOT have a laughter track. And it is the first British television show ever to be filmed on Red One cameras. (Some kind of super duper HD, I understand). All indications are that on April 10th, we won't be witnessing an embarrassing retread through some 'old favourites'. We Red Dwarf fans will be getting something new, unique and very special. Thank you, channel Dave! |
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I kinda think the BBC would bite Elton, Curtis and Atkinson's hands off if they were offered more Blackadder, whereas Dwarf had to go elsewhere because the BBC "is no longer interested in the audience Red Dwarf used to attract".
Yes, we pay these fellas a licence fee. |
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The new bunkroom set which also contains clues as to the explanation for Holly's absence...
http://static.dave.uktv.co.uk/site_m...cast-large.jpg Pretty huge spoilerage contained in the official episode synopsi as revealed today by the Dave website. SPOILER: show |
I love that picture! New wallpaper!
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Hmmm...I wonder how this fits in with the end of series eight? Are the rest of the crew still alive?
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Doug Naylor revealed that the episodes are set nine years later, Kochanski has died, and Lister left a tap on for nine years which flooded the ship and Holly has yet to dry out.
No word on the original crew but I'd imagine if they are bringing one back as a hologram that they probably died too, somehow. Not sure if they will even answer these questions in the show... historically, Red Dwarf isn't one to dwell on cliffhangers or even acknowledge them sometimes. |
Never a fan of Kochanski, but I'd rather she hadn't died...maybe they could have written it so that she found her way back to her alternate dimension...ah well.
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Well I suppose he must have died as a result of his cliffhanger situation in Only The Good.... unless these episodes are set IN the mirror universe (where obviously, there would be no Rimmer because he was stuck on the original Red Dwarf) and they'd have to resurrect him as a hologram.
Or, failing that, the Rimmer in the new episodes could be the ORIGINAL hologram Rimmer, having returned at some point? |
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Crazy to look back at how this thread started, and chart the development of a nostalgic 1hr clip show into the epic 3-part mini-movie that will air in two weeks. Watching the trailer brings it all full circle, huh?
Well... nearly. I suppose the time for that will be on April 12th when the final show airs. |
I cannot wait for this. I don't really want to wish away the next two weeks, but I am so looking forward to new episodes of my fave sitcom of all time.
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Please don't suck. Please don't suck. Please don't suck.
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Everything I've seen and heard so far indicates that this will not suck.
However, I was given the same indications by Blackadder: Back and Forth Through Time. |
Cannot wait for this.
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8 days to go.... :D
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I can barely remember how the last series finished. I remember that stuff with the canaries and that but can't remember what else happened before the end. Maybe didn't see the last episodes. Will it matter when watching the new ones?
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Doubtful. It seems much has changed (or rather regressed) since the end of series VIII.
We may even have a bit of a retcon situation going on. |
Hmmmm.... not sure whether I like the look of this, mainly because of the sheer obviousness of the greenscreen sections.
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I spose you just gotta hope that it'll look better on the tv screen.
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I don't think it looks too bad, actually.
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It looks okay. We've got to remember that these guys will still be working on a strict budget (the reason Norman couldn't star I believe).
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It's growing on me. It looks far more spectacular than it ever did before (they got Mike Seymour from Lord of the Rings doing the special effects) but it's still too obviously greenscreen in some places.
As CharismaInjection said, it will probably look better on the screen, and better again in HD when the DVD comes out. (Not that I have a HD set, but some will have that luxury). |
I have to attend a family birthday party on the friday.....:( :( :(
i wonder if there will be a repeat later on in the night? there should be. |
Can't wait for this.
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Dave ja vu (Dave+1), one hour later.
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unfortuantely i don't think the party will only last an hour haha
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I knew the BBC didn't hate RD after all! At least it gets some sort of life. The film never seemed on.
Can't wait. Will have to set the Sky+ as I'm not here. |
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Not clicking any links in here can't wait for it, shall be away from a tv for most of the weekend drinking though so I'm looking forward to downloading the 3 episodes Monday and nursing a hangover with them. I'm right in saying its one Friday, Saturday, Sunday yes?
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They're repeating the whole thing in a block on Monday night anyway, plus the Making Of.
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If you love Dwarf, and want more, watch it on Dave rather than download it. The ratings matter.
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IT'S TODAY!!! TODAY!!!!!! THE WAIT IT OVER!
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Looked good, could have been funnier. Still seems wrong without a laugh track. :-\
Oh well, still 2 to go. |
3 to go isnt there?
Anyhow,i thought it was a good start despite no laughter track. |
It seemed very strange without it, almost awkward which feels weird to even think that. Not a lot seemed to happen in it. Will wait to see how the others turn out.
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As mentioned, the big difference was the lack of laughter track. I still laughed at the appropriate moments, but kind of missed it. Wasn't sure on the abrupt end...maybe the dvd will just link all episodes together as one.
Still, I've been looking forward to it for months and it didn't let me down. |
It wasn't awful by any stretch of the imagination, I was never not entertained by it, it reminded me of the early Red Dwarf's that seemed to focus more on the characters themselves.
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It didn't seem to explain much, but I'm guessing that is deliberate.
Watching some of the older ones after the new ones though I really noticed how much difference the laugh track made. I'm gonna watch it with beer tonight and see if that makes a difference too :y: |
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