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D Mac 09-01-2008 08:12 AM

MVP in trouble.
 
New report states current Smackdown star has 'heat' wiithin WWE, info
» Reported by Adam Martin of WrestleView.com
» On Monday, September 1, 2008 at 5:28 AM EST

According to a report by Dave Meltzer, MVP reportedly has some heat on him within WWE at the moment. While not a whole lot of details are known, his work in the ring has been criticized as of late and is said to have been told to work in the ring more like Shelton Benjamin.

Ruien 09-01-2008 09:31 AM

MVP > Shelton by far. On the mic and in the ring.

Kane Knight 09-01-2008 10:07 AM

Is this real heat, or the bi-monthly "CM Punk is in the doghouse" heat we always hear about?

Xero 09-01-2008 10:57 AM

Woof.

What Would Kevin Do? 09-01-2008 11:05 AM

IF this is true, then man, god forbid someone have his own style that slightly differs from the norm.

Kane Knight 09-01-2008 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by What Would Kevin Do? (Post 2269488)
IF this is true, then man, god forbid someone have his own style that slightly differs from the norm.

"Too unique" and "wrestle more like Shelton" aren't necessarily synonyms. Of course, this is WWE, so they probably are...But still.

IC Champion 09-01-2008 01:37 PM

Isn't Shelton just WWE's version of a spot monkey?

Mayo 09-01-2008 01:41 PM

So are they saying all black guys wrestle alike?






















:shifty:

#BROKEN Hasney 09-01-2008 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mayo (Post 2269602)
So are they saying all non-obese black guys wrestle alike?

There we go

Xero 09-01-2008 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Instant Classic (Post 2269594)
Isn't Shelton just WWE's version of a spot monkey?

I think you're looking for "Jeff Hardy".

Anybody Thrilla 09-01-2008 02:31 PM

I haven't seen too much recent MVP ring work. What's been wrong with it?

Afterlife 09-01-2008 03:00 PM

Maybe he was caught selling cocaine to his mic skillz.

Kane Knight 09-01-2008 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Instant Classic (Post 2269594)
Isn't Shelton just WWE's version of a spot monkey?

No, he's the male version of Lita....Too Soon?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mayo (Post 2269602)
So are they saying all black guys wrestle alike?










:shifty:

Shelton's black?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero Limit 126 (Post 2269634)
I think you're looking for "Jeff Hardy".

Jeff works for WWE now?

Destor 09-01-2008 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 2269654)
I haven't seen too much recent MVP ring work. What's been wrong with it?

It's been an awesome overload.

Destor 09-01-2008 04:21 PM

Ps- I dont buy this

PullMyFinger 09-01-2008 04:36 PM

MVP has NUCLEAR heat!

SammyG 09-01-2008 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ruien (Post 2269420)
MVP > Shelton by far. On the mic and in the ring.

... in the ring? No fucking way

Destor 09-01-2008 05:55 PM

In the ring definitly. MVP's psycology is a mile ahead of Sheltons.

Destor 09-01-2008 05:56 PM

Cool moves a good match does not make.

Afterlife 09-01-2008 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destor (Post 2269886)
Cool moves a good match does not make.

And slapfights do? :p

Hanso Amore 09-01-2008 06:30 PM

Shelton Benjamin = WWE Black AJ Styles

St. Jimmy 09-01-2008 06:36 PM

Shelton > MVP.

Destor 09-01-2008 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Afterlife (Post 2269914)
And slapfights do? :p

Of course not?

Xero 09-01-2008 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mooияakeя™ (Post 2270009)
Shelton v MVP v Cena - Triple threat 'Nigga takes all match' @ WM25

SPOILER: show
Cena wins.

Mooияakeя™ 09-01-2008 07:50 PM

<s>Shelton v MVP</s> Shelton v MVP v Cena - Triple threat 'Nigga takes all match' @ WM25

[spolier alert - above post]

Anybody Thrilla 09-01-2008 08:58 PM

That's not funny at all.

Afterlife 09-01-2008 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destor (Post 2269945)
Of course not?

Changed your mind, eh?

Lux 09-01-2008 09:42 PM

:wtf:

Super V 09-01-2008 09:54 PM

Must be a shot against Japanese wrestling, where all they do is stiff chop each other and not sell.

Mr. Nerfect 09-02-2008 02:57 AM

MVP's ring work is fine, but the more heat MVP has on him, the more chance The Brian Kendrick has of becoming WWE Champion at Unforgiven. :shifty:

Mr. Nerfect 09-02-2008 02:58 AM

If this leads to MVP busting out the Live from the 305, I will be a very happy man.

TerranRich 09-02-2008 06:22 AM

Vince: Montel... why can't you be more like... MORE LIKE...
MVP: Yes?
[Shelton walks by.]
Vince: MORE LIKE SHELTON!
Shelton: More like.... me, sir?
MVP: :'(

Theo Dious 09-02-2008 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kane Knight (Post 2269442)
Is this real heat, or the bi-monthly "CM Punk is in the doghouse" heat we always hear about?

I'd vote for the latter.

Quote:

Originally Posted by What Would Kevin Do? (Post 2269488)
IF this is true, then man, god forbid someone have his own style that slightly differs from the norm.

For all we know, they just meant "work a bit harder." MVP does have a style that can come across as a bit casual at times, maybe they want him to show some more visible effort.

NeanderCarl 09-02-2008 11:31 AM

Yes, he should emulate his ring style after maybe the most consistantly internally criticised performer in the company.

Next they will be telling him he should take a leaf out of Carlito's work ethic.

Xero 09-02-2008 11:35 AM

This week on Montel - Do all black people REALLY wrestle the same style? And what this philosophy means for your promotion.

Anybody Thrilla 09-02-2008 12:18 PM

MVP reminds me nothing of Ahmed Johnson, I will say.

Kane Knight 09-02-2008 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Class Act Carl (Post 2270903)
Yes, he should emulate his ring style after maybe the most consistantly internally criticised performer in the company.

Next they will be telling him he should take a leaf out of Carlito's work ethic.

For that matter, Brock's....

thedamndest 09-02-2008 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 2270943)
MVP reminds me nothing of Ahmed Johnson, I will say.

They both wear that nose thing.:foc:

Anybody Thrilla 09-02-2008 01:22 PM

My favorite MVP match was when he slammed Yokozuna. Also, remember when MVP was knocked out and Goldust revived him with mouth to mouth and MVP got pissed?

thedamndest 09-02-2008 01:28 PM

Too bad he got so fat...

Destor 09-02-2008 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Afterlife (Post 2270133)
Changed your mind, eh?

Never claimed that was what made the matches good. Just that some good matches had these things in them.

Afterlife 09-02-2008 09:14 PM

Ah. But you did say a match could be made entirely of chops. Besides, I was only ribbing you. You know I'd take you on a mandate, Destor. :kiss:

Destor 09-02-2008 09:16 PM

Right it could be.

Destor 09-02-2008 09:18 PM

Ever heard of Bruiser Brody? Or Stan Hansen? While they weren't prolithic choppers they would put an epic match together comprised by nothing but strikes.

Afterlife 09-02-2008 09:19 PM

I'd hardly call that epic. Also, it sounds like underground boxing. But, I digress. Point is, I was only teasin'.

Destor 09-02-2008 09:21 PM

I know, just elaborating on my point.

Afterlife 09-02-2008 09:30 PM

Can we still have a mandate?

Destor 09-02-2008 09:32 PM

Alright: Go down the block and get me some chicken.

Destor 09-02-2008 09:32 PM

What? Pretty sure that's a mandate.

Afterlife 09-02-2008 09:35 PM

You want me to go down and get your cock? It's a date, not a redlight special.

Vastardikai 09-03-2008 03:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destor (Post 2271388)
Ever heard of Bruiser Brody? Or Stan Hansen? While they weren't prolithic choppers they would put an epic match together comprised by nothing but strikes.

Crazy, I've been on a Hansen kick here lately. He could work like a motherfucker. Also, my favorite spot of all time was him giving Kobashi a Lariat, knocking him off the top rope. It was sick.

Tommy Gunn 09-03-2008 08:38 AM

MVP is NOT fat, his power ranger suit shrunk in the wash.

IMO, MVP has been consistent and drastically improved technically after his program with Chris B****t, then made Matt Hardy look amazing in their feud in 2007. He's survived some crappy booking in the first half of 2008, and is pretty versatile now in the ring. He's never got injured and has remained drug free.

Add to that he's awesome and is full of confidence on the mic right from his debut, MVP is someone the WWE can comfortably push and get good results from.

Yeah, I may be a little biased tho. :D

Mr. Nerfect 09-03-2008 10:14 AM

Given how similar their characters are, I think keeping MVP and Shelton Benjamin as different entities in the ring would be a good idea. Sort of like a fire and ice type of thing, and not a fire and fire deal.

MVP and Shelton Benjamin should both be allowed to decide how they work, in my opinion. You know, because they know what they are and aren't capable of? If Shelton or MVP fucks up when left to their own devices, well, maybe they aren't ready for the big time yet?

KingofOldSchool 09-03-2008 12:06 PM

Isn't there always "newz" on how Shelton is always umotivated and sloppy?

This, kids, is what we call SMARK BAIT.

Kane Knight 09-03-2008 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KingofOldSchool (Post 2272047)
Isn't there always "newz" on how Shelton is always umotivated and sloppy?

This, kids, is what we call SMARK BAIT.

There's no such thing as smark bait; smarks bite at bare hooks.

Anybody Thrilla 09-03-2008 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kane Knight (Post 2272080)
There's no such thing as smark bait; smarks bite at bare hooks.

"Pirate" Paul Burchill just seemed like a good idea, OK???? :mad:

TerranRich 09-03-2008 01:39 PM

It was a good idea, dammit! :'(

Anybody Thrilla 09-03-2008 01:43 PM

:|

Afterlife 09-03-2008 01:46 PM

Aye, Pirate Paul be the true Rated-Arrrrr Superstar.

Afterlife 09-03-2008 01:47 PM

But, now he's quietly fucking his sister, maybe, so it's all good.

Tommy Gunn 09-03-2008 02:25 PM

The sister storyline is the fast ticket to being wished well in future endevours. Ask Ken Shamrock.

Anybody Thrilla 09-03-2008 02:32 PM

Having a sister and fucking a sister aren't exactly the same thing.

Anybody Thrilla 09-03-2008 02:33 PM

Now, if Katie Lea started dating another superstar and Paul started to get 'jealous' while claiming he is just being 'protective', THAT could be pretty interesting.

Afterlife 09-03-2008 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 2272164)
Having a sister and fucking a sister aren't exactly the same thing.

YOu don't recall her rubbing his chest and calling him her "Beautiful brother"?

Anybody Thrilla 09-03-2008 09:05 PM

That doesn't mean anything.

The Genius 09-03-2008 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 2272166)
Now, if Katie Lea started dating another superstar and Paul started to get 'jealous' while claiming he is just being 'protective', THAT could be pretty interesting.

val venis would be perfect in that role.

Anybody Thrilla 09-03-2008 10:10 PM

Honestly, he would be. He'd probably have some good matches with Burchill too.

Mr. Nerfect 09-04-2008 12:47 PM

Val Venis would make perfect sense. What really frustrates me about the WWE keeping him in the porn star gimmick, aren't the limits it puts on him, but rather that for a guy apparently obsessed with sex, he doesn't seem to do much with the Divas. He should be the guy hosting the Diva Searches, and breaking up couples, etc.

I was sure when Jamie Noble showed up on RAW that his flirting with Katie Lea was going to lead to a program with Burchill. Guess not.

Mr. Nerfect 09-04-2008 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kane Knight (Post 2272080)
There's no such thing as smark bait; smarks bite at bare hooks.

How fucking condescending, considering you are a smark.

Juan 09-04-2008 05:06 PM

sources: Wrestling Observer Newsletter, ProWrestling.NET

MVP upset management following a recent incident in which he made a derogatory comment to one of the drug testing monitors who watches the WWE performers while they submit urine samples.

Following the implementation of the WWE Wellness policy a few years ago, some wrestlers were submitting fake urine samples to beat the drug tests. One wrestler was eventually caught cheating in WWE developmental wrestler Afa Anoa'i, Jr. As a result, Anoa'i was suspended by WWE for 30 days, on March 20, 2008, as cheating is an obvious violation of the WWE's Wellness policy. Following the incident, WWE instituted a new rule in which the performers have to be bare from their chest down to their knees while giving urine in front of a doctor to make sure they're not cheating. A number of the wrestlers are grouchy to the monitors as you would imagine. However, MVP went too far in what he said to one of them.

MVP asked the monitor if he graduated from college. The monitor said yet. MVP then insulted him, saying something along the lines of, "So you went to school for four years to watch people's (expletive)?"

The monitor promptly complained to WWE head of talent relations John Laurinaitis as well as Bruce Prichard. Soon after, Laurinaitis indirectly addressed the matter in locker room meeting, instructing talent to be respectful of the testers and to not harass them. People aware of the MVP incident felt it was obvious that the meeting was held due to it.

Since the incident, MVP has been getting the cold shoulder from a few officials. Suddenly, the word backstage is that he doesn't know how to work as a heel to get heat. At last week's SmackDown/ECW tapings in Pittsburgh, Shelton Benjamin - who's been in-and-out of favor with WWE officials for a number of years - was given high praise in that he knows to work as an effective heel. They liked his smiling facials after he laid out MVP with his "Paydirt" finisher and more so later in the show after clocking Triple H with a belt.

Tommy Gunn 09-04-2008 05:37 PM

MVP doesn't know how to work as a heel?! WTF. Makes you wonder if these officials even watch him.

Mr. Nerfect 09-04-2008 09:09 PM

I think the whole "he can't wrestle" thing is bogus to slander MVP, Tommy Gunn. Seemed to be the point of the article.

Anybody Thrilla 09-04-2008 09:34 PM

Was it the urine tester's first day? I bet they get comments like that all the time.

TerranRich 09-06-2008 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noid (Post 2273100)
How fucking condescending, considering you are a smark.

I guess he considers himself a mark with more backstage knowledge and more sensibilities than most marks.

WHICH IS THE DEFINITION OF A SMARK.

Vastardikai 09-07-2008 01:48 AM

Can't they just fire John Laurinitis instead and save the WWE an ass of headaches?

Mr. Nerfect 09-07-2008 04:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 2273424)
Was it the urine tester's first day? I bet they get comments like that all the time.

I can't imagine the WWE being too angry about this. I mean, a lot of the agents and stuff would have come from an era where they didn't have to do sissy drug-testing, and stuff was floating around the locker-rooms. There is a part of me that thinks this could be a bit of purposely leaked information to smokescreen and MVP title win at Unforgiven.

I mean, it would make sense to take the WWE Title off Triple H for so many reasons in the Scramble Match. Out of the heels, MVP is the logical pick for victory. The Brian Kendrick is too new to the main event scene, and Shelton Benjamin is already US Champion.

But then again, Shelton did beat MVP cleanly on SmackDown!.


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