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Rollermacka 09-29-2008 01:17 PM

Better music WCW, WWE or TNA?
 
So which company do you think has/had the best music WWE, WCW or TNA? I think WCW had alot of take-offs of popular music like DDP's sounded like Smells like Teen Spirit, Jeff Jarrett had a take-off of Cowboy, Saturn used the entrance that sounded like the Bueatiful People. WWE and TNA has some good ones too, I like Jeff Hardy's TNA music and the old WWE Three Minute Warning.

thedamndest 09-29-2008 01:30 PM

WWE has always had the best music.

ron the dial 09-29-2008 01:34 PM

wwe no question

Mercury Bullet 09-29-2008 02:09 PM

Double Double E

BigDaddyCool 09-29-2008 02:12 PM

WWE. WCW had decent music, occasionally. TNA just rips off other people music.

Supreme Olajuwon 09-29-2008 02:24 PM

WCW had a handful of great themes (Harlem Heat, Four Horsemen, nWo to name a few) but by far WWE has had the best. WCW's were too generic. WWE at least tried to match up themes with characters.

Dorkchop 09-29-2008 02:27 PM

WWE. Not only were the themes better, but a lot of them were custom made for the wrestlers. Jim Johnston is awesome.

WCW had a few good and memorable themes.

TNA is just plain terrible. For a company who shits on WWE as often as they can and takes pride in being different than them, they sure like to make generic rip offs of former WWE wrestlers' themes.

Rollermacka 09-29-2008 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dorkchop (Post 2299126)
TNA is just plain terrible. For a company who shits on WWE as often as they can and takes pride in being different than them, they sure like to make generic rip offs of former WWE wrestlers' themes.

Really,
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or

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Christian has some good music to, but then again for some reason Christian always has great music.

#BROKEN Hasney 09-29-2008 03:33 PM

Yeah, 3 exceptions there. Jeff Hardy did his own, so it's not TNA written. I swear I read an interview where Christian says he has had input on all his themes since he went single.

Kurt Angle was coming in so they probably used all their music creativity on Kurt signing for TNA.

Also, MCMGs first theme, before they fagged it up 2 months later.

RGWhat316 09-29-2008 03:48 PM

WWE definitely has better music. The only real TNA theme I really like is The Beautiful People's, even though it is a generic rock theme.

Dorkchop 09-29-2008 04:07 PM

I forgot about Angle's theme. Fine. TNA has had one good one.

Jeff Hardy's TNA theme would be better if it had a different singer.... or no vocals at all. The music is good for a theme.

ozzman6669 09-29-2008 05:28 PM

Jim Johnston is the best, he can write stuff that fit any caracters. And by the way, Christian's TNA theme is My last breath from Evanescence without lyrics.

Juan 09-29-2008 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thedamndest (Post 2299095)
WWE has always had the best music.


#BROKEN Hasney 09-29-2008 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ozzman6669 (Post 2299226)
Jim Johnston is the best, he can write stuff that fit any caracters. And by the way, Christian's TNA theme is My last breath from Evanescence without lyrics.

Slightly retooled to avoid lawsuits too, just like the old WCW days.

NeanderCarl 09-29-2008 05:58 PM

WWE, fo' sho'.

The Ravishing One 09-29-2008 06:00 PM

WWE

Xero 09-29-2008 06:50 PM

WWE's music, as a whole, is superior. Sure, there's some generic-sounding shit in there, but for the most part the themes tend to go well with the characters and sound pretty good.

TerranRich 09-29-2008 09:28 PM

You guys can't count production library tracks that WCW or WWE used.

As far as original music goes, WWE wins out by a small margn. The few themes that Jimmy Hart did for WCW were great, but not as great as WWE's.

TNA's music is just... blech.

Rollermacka 09-29-2008 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thedamndest (Post 2299095)
WWE has always had the best music.

I dont know about ALWAYS the best
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Rob 09-29-2008 11:26 PM

Kurt Angle's theme is a rip off. It's Lunatic Fringe by Red Ryder. Now it has some rapping over a remix of it.

TNA had some good music. LAX and 3LK were good.

Rob 09-29-2008 11:28 PM

Oh and Christian's is a rip off too of an Evanescence song I can't remember the name too. "My Last Breath" possibly.

TerranRich 09-29-2008 11:45 PM

I.R.S. never used that typewriter sound effects theme. It was a common misconception that he did use it, but he never actually did.

AKin3D 09-30-2008 02:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supreme Olajuwon (Post 2299122)
WCW had a handful of great themes (Harlem Heat, Four Horsemen, nWo to name a few) but by far WWE has had the best. WCW's were too generic. WWE at least tried to match up themes with characters.

I believe you have put it the best. No matter how bad, or good a wrestler is in WWE atless they'll have the music to make them look that much better. WCW seemed to just have a cd on shuffle. Unless it was someone well knowen is a good way to put it, they all had music that really didn't sound any differant. TNA...Blah, all the themes are ripped off remixes of some other song.

BTW can someone tell me Jericho's theme from WCW? I recall the it was over with the fans.

Lock Jaw 09-30-2008 02:12 AM

Jericho's WCW theme was a rip-off of Even Flow by Pearl Jam without lyrics.

Also, I must say that even though Booker T's TNA music is a rip-off of his old theme, I quite like it:

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Not great quality, but I'm too lazy to find a better one.

TNA messed up Christian's music by remixing it though.

TerranRich 09-30-2008 12:21 PM

www.xylotthemes.com/themes/wcw/chrisjericho

There you go.

I think WCW's best original themes are Raven's and DDP's. There weren't many non-outsourced themes that I can think of, but those stick out.

JT 09-30-2008 01:29 PM

Yea, same as the rest here...I think WWE is the best. There is really no doubt about it, as they've made original music for their wrestlers for years, and can't recall a wrestler using a remix theme song since the 80's.

Most of WCW and TNA's theme songs were generic remixes of better song with exception to stuff like nWo, AJ Styles, and 4 Horsemen.

The Optimist 09-30-2008 01:35 PM

WCW was the best by quite a while, alot were admittedly redone songs but they still kicked alot of ass. TNA music is usually awful by comparison.

#1-norm-fan 09-30-2008 07:09 PM

WWE by a mile.

This really shouldn't even be a discussion...

Rob 09-30-2008 07:18 PM

WWE's music since Jim Johnson left the company has been mega shit though. Probably the worst of the 3.

Xero 09-30-2008 07:23 PM

When did Johnston leave the company?

FourFifty 09-30-2008 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rollermacka (Post 2299137)
Really,
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or

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Christian has some good music to, but then again for some reason Christian always has great music.

Someone already coverd Kurt's theme song, and I'm pretty sure Jeff Hardy, much like Ron Killings, did his own theme music. But let's just focus on Jeff Harvey for a second.

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Okay, I gotta admit, it's pretty much a remake with lyrics of another song, but when it was your own theme to begin with, m'eh.

Rob 09-30-2008 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero Limit 126 (Post 2300743)
When did Johnston leave the company?

Few months ago.

DarKCentaur 09-30-2008 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TerranRich (Post 2300438)
www.xylotthemes.com/themes/wcw/chrisjericho

There you go.

I think WCW's best original themes are Raven's and DDP's. There weren't many non-outsourced themes that I can think of, but those stick out.

Wasn't DDP's theme a ripoff of Smells Like Teen Spirit?

NeanderCarl 09-30-2008 08:50 PM

Yes, and Raven's was a rip-off of Come As You Are. Hopefully, he was joking.

Jericho's was a rip-off of Evenflow.

TerranRich 09-30-2008 08:59 PM

Jim Johnston never left WWE. It was rumored, but was never true.

And yeah, DDP's was a rip-off (as was Raven's) but they were still pretty good.

Jericho's 2nd was a rip-off of "Evenflow" by Pearl Jam, but that's the production library's fault, not WCW's ;)

ozzman6669 09-30-2008 09:20 PM

There is one WCW theme that I really liked, its Satan's sister, many wrestlers used it and it was a great riff.

jindrak 09-30-2008 09:26 PM

ECW

parkmania 09-30-2008 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JT Kool (Post 2300512)
Yea, same as the rest here...I think WWE is the best. There is really no doubt about it, as they've made original music for their wrestlers for years, and can't recall a wrestler using a remix theme song since the 80's.

Um, "Rollin'" by Limp Bizkit was used by Biker Taker for a while, and that was definitely 90's.

Xero 09-30-2008 11:50 PM

Rollin' wasn't a remix. And it came out in 2000.

#1-norm-fan 10-01-2008 01:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob (Post 2300741)
WWE's music since Jim Johnson left the company has been mega shit though. Probably the worst of the 3.

I've heard nothing of Jim Johnston leaving the company.

Also, if he had been gone for just the past three months, honestly, how many new themes have been produced in that short time period? lol

Xero 10-01-2008 01:23 AM

Well, they DID reuse a Jamie Noble theme for Swagger...

TerranRich 10-01-2008 02:26 AM

Jim Johnston did not leave WWE.

And that theme, Xero, was also used for U.S. Express's one-time appearance at the RAW 15th Anniversary show.

Juan 10-01-2008 02:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jindrak (Post 2300872)
ECW

Yeah, ECW deserves an honorable mention. :y:

Xero 10-01-2008 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TerranRich (Post 2301220)
Jim Johnston did not leave WWE.

And that theme, Xero, was also used for U.S. Express's one-time appearance at the RAW 15th Anniversary show.

And?

TerranRich 10-01-2008 12:51 PM

And... it just goes to show you how much that theme has been re-used. I was furthering your point.

Rollermacka 10-01-2008 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juan (Post 2301253)
Yeah, ECW deserves an honorable mention. :y:

I always wondered why is it that ECW was the smallest of the three big 90's comnpanies could actually use songs like Sandman used Enter Sandman, Dreamer used Alice in Chains and Raven used "The Kids Arent Alright"

TerranRich 10-01-2008 02:15 PM

Maybe paying those artists explains part of the reason for Paul Heyman going bankrupt.

parkmania 10-01-2008 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TerranRich (Post 2301594)
Maybe paying those artists explains part of the reason for Paul Heyman going bankrupt.

Either that or ECW was deemed too small-time to bother with.

NeanderCarl 10-01-2008 05:28 PM

They always used cover versions in ECW.

And Raven used Offspring's Come Out And Play to the best of my memory, Rollermacka.

Xero 10-01-2008 05:32 PM

They used cover versions for Video releases and maybe for TV (I'm not 100% sure on TV). They did use at least some real songs live.

I believe I heard they don't need to pay royalties for live performances, only for releases and possibly pretapes. Which is how WWE used Enter Sandman and then cut it from the DVD.

Then again, maybe they just slipped under the radar. Doesn't ROH use real music?

NeanderCarl 10-01-2008 05:49 PM

Yeah, I guess ECW may have used the real versions live and dubbed the cover versions over it for DVD releases back in the day. I have a few ECW DVDs that are noticably dubbed.

TerranRich 10-01-2008 06:51 PM

Ah, so that's how they managed to circumvent paying royalties. Thanks, CAC & Xero.

ROH used real music, but is starting to use stock production music as well now. That shows promise. TNA doesn't even do that. Perhaps they should.

Rob 10-01-2008 09:00 PM

Has anyone got Jarrett's or Angle's themes on mp3 clear and complete?

Loose Cannon 10-01-2008 09:07 PM

yea WWE, but I haven't liked to many themes the past couple years. They've been on this Rock/Punk Rock kick for the past couple years and a lof of themes sound the same to me. They even use these type songs for thier PPV "themes"

Rob 10-01-2008 09:14 PM

Maria's song makes me wanna rip my ears off.

TerranRich 10-01-2008 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob (Post 2301854)
Has anyone got Jarrett's or Angle's themes on mp3 clear and complete?

Depending on which themes you mean, I might have them: www.xylotthemes.com/themes/tna/ent

Juan 10-01-2008 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loose Cannon (Post 2301861)
yea WWE, but I haven't liked to many themes the past couple years. They've been on this Rock/Punk Rock kick for the past couple years and a lof of themes sound the same to me. They even use these type songs for thier PPV "themes"

I don't see the problem. :shifty:

Super V 10-01-2008 11:31 PM

They were ripoffs, bot WCW did have some great ones. They're more memorable to me. The Artist's, M.I. Smooth, 3 Count. Basically the qirky undercard themes were better imo.

DAMN iNATOR 10-05-2008 05:47 PM

TNA does do mostly ripped-off themes but at least a few are good for laughs, such as Lethal, Shark Boy, Eric Young (since he is "afraid" of his pyro and it always catches him "off-guard"), and a couple others.

Kane Knight 10-05-2008 11:34 PM

As a rule, WWF/E always has the best songs. Part of that is simply that they have a better budget, but mostly, it's because most of their songs fit the characters. Even when it's a production theme, they are usually fairly appropriate (The Hardy Boys, for example).

RGWhat316 10-06-2008 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero Limit 126 (Post 2301660)
Then again, maybe they just slipped under the radar. Doesn't ROH use real music?

Yep they do. Some are remixed a little bit, and some are just the songs themselves. Like Jack Evans has "911" by Eminem, but with a different intro. While Austin Aries uses the actual "Personal Jesus" by Marilyn Manson.

TerranRich 10-07-2008 03:13 AM

^ This man knows his stuff. I'm just now adding ROH themes to Xylot Themes, and he's right.


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