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"Heeeeyyy yo...I'm in jail"
Dave Meltzer is reporting that former WWE and TNA wrestler Scott Hall has been arrested. Apparently he got upset during the comedy roast of The Iron Sheik. Jimmy Graham, a comedian who has wrestled, and made a remark to Bill Apter, "Bill Apter, you're deaded than Owen Hart." Hall, who had been drinking, was furious about the disrespectful joke and threw punches at Graham until he was contained by security. More information will hopefully come out soon.
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Maybe he was furious that the punchline just wasn't that good.
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Yea, can't really blame him at all. That line was extremely disrespectful and I have to give props to Scott for standing up to that bullshit, whether he was drunk or not.
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"No, it offended me as a comedian!" Channelling a bit of Seinfeld there... |
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LOL @ a Kliq member defending the honor of a member of the Hart family.
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I agree with Hall.
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...Funny. |
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On the lighter side. while he was always a big guy, Hall has really appeared to let himself go :(
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Anyone know if this was filmed or where I can find a torrent?
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lol comedy roast of The Iron Shiek
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That "Joke" was out of line because owen was not the subject of the roast,Sheik was.Good thing Bret wasnt there..he would have punched the guy out and the wrote about it.
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lol I'm not surprised that somebody got arrested at this. Just surprised it wasn't Shiek for attacking Blair.
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i laughed
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And apparently Scott Hall didn't actually get arrested. |
Ppl are way too sensitive these days.
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Would you be saying that if people made fun of your dead friend? I doubt it.
Or maybe you're a cunt. |
I hope everyone who is outraged in this thread is as equally outraged by every other bit of disrespectful humor in the world.
Jimmy Kimmel made a joke about Chris Benoit at a roast and no one seemed too outraged about that. |
Chris Benoit murdered 2 people. All bets are off there.
If your mum died and I made a joke about her death, would you laugh? |
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And yeah I would probably be offended if someone made a joke at a dead loved one's expense, but you tell me which is worse: telling an inappropriate, offensive joke at a roast or making a drunken spectacle of yourself and physically attacking another human being. |
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I'm going to take middle ground here. Comedy should not have subject limits. It's not what something is about, but how it is about it. I've seen people make Owen Hart jokes on these board -- it's not that big a deal. Yeah, it's a tragedy that Owen Hart died. World War II was a tragedy, too, but I've heard people make jokes about that, as well.
I've been around people when they have (unknowingly) said something that would qualify as being offensive to me. I don't make an ass of myself by attacking someone, looking like a drunk fuck and nearly getting into some serious trouble with the law. A good friend, you are tempted to defend honour, but you can do that by A) being funnier than the dumbass comedian making awful jokes, or B) using your words and telling him to shut the fuck up about it because it's tasteless, and not the right time, place or venue for this topic matter. Also, the joke was apparently "When Sheik and Hacksaw Jim were caught snorting coke in the parking lot, Sheik's career fell quicker than Owen Hart." Or something closer to that. That's what I read from this Jimmy Graham guy, who has seemingly taken too many head-shots from his time as a wrestler. He wrote something on his MySpace which makes him seem like an idiot (he says he loved "Owen Heart" as a wrestler and as a man). Too lazy to check the video to see if it's that or the Bill Apter one. In closing, Jimmy Graham doesn't sound like the funniest man, and seems to substitute shock matter and insults for wit and actual humour, but Scott Hall's drunken reaction was just as primitive, if not more so. |
You don't make jokes that will offend your audience. Whole point is to make them laugh.
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Hall commenting on it .
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Can't argue with the man.
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Stop trolling fucker. It's over.
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Being serious. I don't see where the joke was offensive. This whole thing comes off to me as Scott Hall looking for some attention.
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Then you're a moron.
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Now, this is the first I've heard about the Kimmel "joke." I neither know the context or the specifics, but I'm betting it wasn't funny, either. Mostly because Jimmy Kimmel isn't. Then again, we probably wouldn't be hearing about this "joke," either, had Hall not gotten his panties in a wad. Perhaps letting the joke die on its own would have been a better idea. |
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Would he have said the joke if Bret Hart was standing there?
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little too old to change your weight? idiot
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But yeah the Owen line was not right
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It not like there isn't a time and place for jokes like this but this wasn't one of those times and certainly not in that company.
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After hearing the explanation, I'm all behind Hall. Interesting to know that they were friends, I had not heard that before. Gotta say though, if someone said that about a dead friend of mine, I'd probably have the same reaction, drinking or no.
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Scott Hall didn't really have that many enemies. People mention Bret Hart because Scott was in the clique but Bret got on fine with Scott Hall, Kevin Nash and Sean Waltman.
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With every stories i've heard about Scott, it looks like his only enemy is himself.
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Well I've heard stories of him being a prick to people now and again. Him and Marty Jannetty didn't get on for years and Chris Jericho said in his book that Scott was a bit of a dick to him too.
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The Jimmy Kimmel joke had to do with Flavor Flav. Jimmy was talking about how Flav has had a lot of kids and he was a bad father, so he said the line "Chris Benoit was a better father than you." Kinda funny now, at the time it was a week or so after the Benoit killings, so it was considerably less funny then.
Now, to weigh in on the issue at hand. I've seen a lot of roasts, and I'm the type who laughs at basically anything, I don't get offended very much. I've seen the deaths of Kurt Cobain, Heath Ledger and others made fun of at roasts, and the jokes were funny, and I wasn't offended. The Owen Hart joke, while not very funny, is not offensive to me, but I can understand how someone close to him would be offended. I buy Hall's argument, if someone had made fun of my friend who had died tragically, I'd be pissed. Hell, at the Pamela Anderson Roast that Courtney Love attended, Jeff Ross said the line "How can Courtney Love look worse than Kurt Cobain?" which I thought was funny, but the woman was right there! Funny to me, but I can see how it's tasteless, the same as I can see how the Owen Hart line is tasteless. Bottom line: the man had every right to make the joke at a roast, and Scott Hall had every right to be upset. He shouldn't have went after the guy, but he should say whatever he wants. That's that. |
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Actually the joke is worst.
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An off-color joke is worse than physical assault?
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Doing something drunk can be excused in certain circumstances. Being a cock when you're sober is worse.
What physical assault is this anyway? Not like wrestling fans to fucking exaggerate something at all is it? Scott Hall would have smashed most of the guys in that room in a legit fight plus he is like twice the size of the comic. |
"Threw punches until restrained by security" sounds like assault to me. And under what circumstances is "I hit him 'cause I was drunk" a suitable excuse? Punches are punches, no matter what your BAC is.
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Yeah, I'm sorry but making a joke in the company of people who he must have known there was a chance of a bad reaction (not to mention it was such a shit joke that it just comes off as insulting) is worse than a man drunkenly and physically pointing out he was wrong/sticking up for somebody he knew personally. And physical assault? Get real you PC tart, Hall wouldn't have been out of line breaking his nose, let alone whiffing some punches and looking like a clown doing crotch chops
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And, for the record, I was never defending the joke. The joke was in bad taste. But at a roast, everybody roasts everybody, and for somebody to take that kind of exception to a joke (no matter how un-PC or how unfunny) is ridiculous. Nothing and nobody is off-limits at a roast. |
When you are being roasted, nothing is off limits. Your peers shouldn't be either if there are there at the roast. If someone is mocking the way one of my friends or family tragically dead then I'd have a problem. However if there are three people who would be off limits then it's Owen Hart, John Tenta and Nancy Benoit.
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It would be like making fun of Chris Benoit being a great husband with Kevin Sullivan sitting there. Not cool. |
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