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Xero 11-02-2008 02:00 PM

Who is the greatest wrestler to not go anywhere?
 
IE: Great all-around but never really made anything of themselves in the business.

Jeritron 11-02-2008 02:03 PM

This is a great topic. What would you consider "going nowhere" though? I need a little more criteria

Xero 11-02-2008 02:10 PM

Someone who got juggled around and never really found a focus, eventually fading into obscurity.

Jeritron 11-02-2008 02:15 PM

I'd say Shane Douglas, or other ECW alumn. Of course, someones going to argue that they did go somewhere and made their mark.

A guy like Kanyon comes to mind, even though I was never a big fan.

What Would Kevin Do? 11-02-2008 02:20 PM

Not sure. One name that came to mind though was C.W. Anderson.

Anybody Thrilla 11-02-2008 02:21 PM

I'm gonna need some more time to think about this, but let me just say now that I wish Muhammad Hassan would have been able to continue.

Anybody Thrilla 11-02-2008 02:22 PM

According to EWR, Lash Leroux is a super talented guy. I don't remember too much of his WCW work, but I do know he's nowhere now. Is he actually that good?

Blitz 11-02-2008 02:23 PM

Joe E Legend should be a multiple time World Champion.

Anybody Thrilla 11-02-2008 02:24 PM

Ohhh yeah, Just Joe was a great character. Really wish they would have ran with it.

Also, let me just go ahead and say Joey Abs.

Anybody Thrilla 11-02-2008 02:29 PM

OK, I admit, I lied about Joey Abs.

NeanderCarl 11-02-2008 02:57 PM

Ric Flair

Nark Order 11-02-2008 03:08 PM

Nova/Simon Dean. Had the ring skills and the mic skills to go far. Was misused though and a bit small.

Nark Order 11-02-2008 03:15 PM

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El Fangel 11-02-2008 03:38 PM

In a way Kane.

Think about his career, he is now on the short stretch before retirement, so what has he done.

Lock Jaw 11-02-2008 03:41 PM

Simon Dean was great. I remember when he made this fat guy in the crowd cry.

Halbowsky 11-02-2008 05:32 PM

I kind of feel bad for saying this, but Owen Hart. Such a talented guy who was always overshadowed by Bret. Still had a long career ahead of him

Ruien 11-02-2008 05:49 PM

Maven, as a heel.

Nark Order 11-02-2008 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ruien (Post 2332788)
Maven, as a heel.

Agree. Liked his run alot. Dunno why WWE didn't.

Nark Order 11-02-2008 05:57 PM

Heel Maven

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CrazyRobot 11-02-2008 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 2332691)
I'm gonna need some more time to think about this, but let me just say now that I wish Muhammad Hassan would have been able to continue.

Why? He wasnt a good wrestler by any means and dont forget the fact that his gimmick was cheap heel heat.

FourFifty 11-02-2008 06:38 PM

Sean O'Haire [/thread]

FourFifty 11-02-2008 06:40 PM

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thedamndest 11-02-2008 06:54 PM

Going to say Christian Cage because he's in TNA and yeah.

Nark Order 11-02-2008 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrazyRobot (Post 2332813)
Why? He wasnt a good wrestler by any means and dont forget the fact that his gimmick was cheap heel heat.

I disagree completely. His gimmick was too complex for the general mark to even understand. He was an American that used to love his country until 9/11 happened and he was openly discriminated against on a regular basis. He loved America and wished it would go back to the way it used to be so he could live a normal life again. Also, I don't remember his matches being bad at all. I remember being totally entranced during Hassan matches and promos.

I was embarrassed everytime people started chanting "USA" during a Hassan match. Stupid people. :nono:

Nark Order 11-02-2008 07:26 PM

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Juan 11-02-2008 07:36 PM

Ken Shamrock

Anybody Thrilla 11-02-2008 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Narcissus (Post 2332827)
I disagree completely. His gimmick was too complex for the general mark to even understand. He was an American that used to love his country until 9/11 happened and he was openly discriminated against on a regular basis. He loved America and wished it would go back to the way it used to be so he could live a normal life again. Also, I don't remember his matches being bad at all. I remember being totally entranced during Hassan matches and promos.

I was embarrassed everytime people started chanting "USA" during a Hassan match. Stupid people. :nono:

Yeah, something like this.

The gimmick was much more than cheap heat. If people would have actually listened to his first promos, he really should have been a face in peoples eyes. They started playing him differently though when Daivari started shouting in Farsi, though. If they would have stuck on the original path and The CW didn't bitch out, I think Muhammad Hassan would have had a great run.

Triple Naitch 11-02-2008 07:53 PM

I always thought Brian Pillman could have been Stone Cold before Steve Austin came along. It's just a shame that he never had the opportunity to become a superstar.

Gertner 11-02-2008 08:06 PM

Simon Diamond. Friggen gold on the mic and a solid worker as well.

Blitz 11-02-2008 08:30 PM

Gertner knows.

Fox 11-02-2008 08:45 PM

Wrath was awesome, but not the greatest.

Test falls into this category.

Kennedy is on the path.

NeanderCarl 11-02-2008 08:51 PM

If by "not go anywhere" you mean never a top title run, no long main event run, not really given the opportunity to be a top top guy, then I'll say Mr. Perfect.

KingofOldSchool 11-02-2008 09:03 PM

Shockmaster

He kinda fell flat.

NeanderCarl 11-02-2008 09:13 PM

Gobbledy Gooker

He just got too cocky.

thedamndest 11-02-2008 09:15 PM

Are we really doing this now?

NeanderCarl 11-02-2008 09:16 PM

Ricky Steamboat

Made out he was a tough guy, but deep down he's yella

thedamndest 11-02-2008 09:16 PM

Bastion Booger

He just wasn't the right pick.

NeanderCarl 11-02-2008 09:17 PM

Brutus 'The Barber' Beefcake

He just couldn't cut it.

thedamndest 11-02-2008 09:18 PM

Chris Benoit

He couldn't hang in there.

NeanderCarl 11-02-2008 09:18 PM

123 Kid/6-Pac

He was too by-the-numbers.

Loose Cannon 11-02-2008 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero Limit 126 (Post 2332675)
Someone who got juggled around and never really found a focus, eventually fading into obscurity.

if we go by this, one guy that comes to mind is Bad News Brown. He was pushed and pushed and pushed and then all of a sudden, he was gone. His gimmick was about 10 years to early, but he never really had the work ethic to amount to anything huge in a major company imo.

Tatanka is another guy who comes to mind. He was gievn the undefeated streak thing for a while. He was given a pretty high profile run against Lex and was pretty high up in the card as a heel for a little bit, but faded away very fast

One recent guy that comes to mind and now that I think about it has a strong case here. You guys get on Noid about him all the time, but Val Venis is the king of being bounced around.

thedamndest 11-02-2008 09:19 PM

Glacier

He melted.

NeanderCarl 11-02-2008 09:20 PM

Bryan Clark

He bombed.

I heard he had NUCLEAR heat backstage too.

thedamndest 11-02-2008 09:24 PM

Scott Hall

He was too much of an Outsider.

NeanderCarl 11-02-2008 09:24 PM

TL Hopper

He was just a flush in the pan.

NeanderCarl 11-02-2008 09:26 PM

Sid

Very charismatic, but in the ring, he was the shits

parkmania 11-02-2008 09:27 PM

TL Hopper

His plans went down the crapper.

thedamndest 11-02-2008 09:28 PM

Repo Man

They just took him away.

NeanderCarl 11-02-2008 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thedamndest (Post 2332914)
Repo Man

They just took him away.

I dunno. He stole a few victories (and a few hearts) along the way.

thedamndest 11-02-2008 09:35 PM

Not as many as he demolished.

NeanderCarl 11-02-2008 09:36 PM

Firebreaker Chip

Got fired.

:shifty:

Juan 11-02-2008 09:36 PM

Duke "The Dumpster" Droese

His push was garbage.

NeanderCarl 11-02-2008 09:37 PM

Butch Reed

Seemed like a natural but he was doomed from the start.

Nark Order 11-02-2008 09:37 PM

Woman

She was murdered by her husband.

Oh, that was a little forward, wasn't it?

Juan 11-02-2008 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Class Act Carl (Post 2332926)
Butch Reed

Seemed like a natural but he was doomed from the start.

:rofl:

NeanderCarl 11-02-2008 09:38 PM

Ron Simmons

His career was damned.

NeanderCarl 11-02-2008 09:40 PM

I think we've succesfully ruined Xero's thread. :lol: A Barry Horowitz style self-pat-on-the-back for each of us, I believe.

Ooooh, Barry Horowitz.

Good wrestler when focused but could never turn down another job.

PorkSoda 11-02-2008 09:49 PM

Bob "Sparkplugg" Holly.

He ran out of gas.

Gertner 11-02-2008 09:51 PM

S.D Jones

He just couldn't deliver.....except to heaven.

Nark Order 11-02-2008 09:53 PM

Zack Gowen

He didn't have a leg to stand on.

Gertner 11-02-2008 09:54 PM

Owen Hart

Just kinda fell off the radar.

Nark Order 11-02-2008 09:57 PM

Val Venis.

It was always just a little harder for him.

NeanderCarl 11-02-2008 09:59 PM

The Godwinns

Too pig-headed and refused to muck in.

Nark Order 11-02-2008 10:04 PM

Billy and Chuck

They tried too hard to keep good men down.

Gertner 11-02-2008 10:05 PM

Bobby Lashley

He's a nigger.

Nark Order 11-02-2008 10:19 PM

Nervous Ferrett

Destor 11-02-2008 10:37 PM

First guy who came to mind was Jerry Lynn.

Xero 11-02-2008 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Class Act Carl (Post 2332933)
I think we've succesfully ruined Xero's thread.

Are you kidding? I feel you've all learned well.

Al Snow

He had a good head on his shoulders, but others came along and ninja'd his spot.

He finally made like a tree and leift.

Skippord 11-02-2008 11:30 PM

Chavo Guererro

he was too Mexican

Nark Order 11-02-2008 11:32 PM

Nervous Ferrett

Vastardikai 11-03-2008 02:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero Limit 126 (Post 2332977)
Are you kidding? I feel you've all learned well.

Al Snow

He had a good head on his shoulders, but others came along and ninja'd his spot.

He finally made like a tree and leift.

Talk about the perfect avatar for this thread...

PorkSoda 11-03-2008 03:18 AM

Adam Bomb.

He always blew up in the ring.

St. Jimmy 11-03-2008 03:20 AM

William Regal

FourFifty 11-03-2008 09:21 AM

Abe Knuckleball Schwartz
Couldn't get a decent strike in thee.

Triple Naitch 11-03-2008 10:14 AM

Snitsky
But it wasn't his fault

Team Sheep 11-03-2008 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by St. Jimmy (Post 2333090)
William Regal


Nark Order 11-03-2008 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by St. Jimmy (Post 2333090)
William Regal

Seems as though he was getting a Main Event push a while back and he ruined it.

NeanderCarl 11-03-2008 01:52 PM

Jillian Hall

Just can't seem to hit the right notes.

NeanderCarl 11-03-2008 01:57 PM

Barry O

No head for the business.

parkmania 11-03-2008 02:32 PM

Abe "Knuckleball" Schwartz

He just couldn't hit that homerun.

NeanderCarl 11-03-2008 02:42 PM

Phantasio

Just didn't have that magic something.

NeanderCarl 11-03-2008 02:45 PM

Doink

By the end, he was just clowning around.

Nark Order 11-03-2008 03:16 PM

Crash Holly

I think the wrestling business just took the life out of him.

NeanderCarl 11-03-2008 03:21 PM

Well Dunn

They were in rare form but they were just medium sized and the steaks were too high.

parkmania 11-03-2008 03:57 PM

The Beverly Brothers

They just couldn't climg those hills.

parkmania 11-03-2008 03:58 PM

Seriously though, The Genius was the stuff.

NeanderCarl 11-03-2008 04:05 PM

They were from Shaker Heights.

HeartBreakMan2k 11-03-2008 04:31 PM

Christopher Daniels.

Boondock Saint 11-03-2008 05:23 PM

Sonny Siaki.

Rollermacka 11-04-2008 11:40 AM

I'd say Wrath/ Brian Clark was one of my faves for along time. Another was Johnny the Bull, I couldnt figure out how he went from press slamming Rikishi one week and Jamal the next, then he just kinda faded away.

Rollermacka 11-04-2008 11:40 AM

Rellik

That's killer spelled backwards

Rollermacka 11-04-2008 11:42 AM

Visera

Mabel, he just wasnt the Big Daddy he thought he'd V.

(I tried) :wave:

FourFifty 11-04-2008 12:03 PM

Battle Cat
Let's face it, he was just a pussy.

Xero 11-04-2008 12:11 PM

Braden Walker

He learned never to be caught associating with Matt Hardy, like that time he spoke with Matt backstage.

Nark Order 11-04-2008 12:33 PM

Braden Walker

He was so awesome that other awesome things paled in comparison to the point where there was too much combustable awesome floating around and it was too dangerous to mix the awesomes together.

parkmania 11-04-2008 02:02 PM

Ernest "The Cat" Miller

Even clicking his red shoes three times couldn't get the attention of anyone's momma.

Gertner 11-05-2008 12:06 AM

Col DeBeers needs to be added. Anybody who watched/watches AWA knows what I'm talking about. If he would have been in the WWF intead after the AWA he would have mainevented with Hogan.

My Final Heaven 11-05-2008 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Class Act Carl (Post 2333395)
Barry O

No head for the business.

It's hard to have a head for the business when your nephew's KICKED IT CLEAN OFF YOUR SHOULDERS BAHGAWWD!!!

Fox 11-05-2008 04:04 PM

A-Train

Was chugging right along before being de-railed.

Rollermacka 11-20-2008 01:03 AM

Krusher Kong
He just wasnt King

Cyber Kong
He just wasnt King

Awsome Kong
She just wasnt King :shifty:


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