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Kalyx triaD 11-04-2008 08:45 PM

Ryu vs Ken
 
http://neoempire.com/myspace/ryu_ken.gif

We're gonna settle this shit NOW!

And discuss your Goddamn answers!

This is the greatest fffucking poll I ever did!

:mad:

Fucking vote and discuss now!

I vote Ken Masters; mostly because he's badass and partly because Ryu's gay. His Shoryuken sets his fucking fist on fire, and its range is greater. His Hurricane Kick combos and his standard kicks are better than Ryu's. His Shinryuken is most likely better than Ryu's Shinku-Shoryuken - which I always thought was Ryu's attempt at being a smart-ass anyway. And Ken has better theme music.

Ken wins. :foc:

Kalyx triaD 11-04-2008 08:46 PM

I forgot to add a FFFFffucking poll!!!!

Funky Fly 11-04-2008 08:56 PM

Nice.

Destor 11-04-2008 09:41 PM

You can still add the poll. Click thread tools...

Kalyx triaD 11-04-2008 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destor (Post 2335153)
You can still add the poll. Click thread tools...

Holy fucking shit, bro. Holy FUCKING SHIT

Ken FTW, bitch.

Boomer 11-04-2008 09:53 PM

Ken, most certainly. Fucking fire uppercut.

UmbrellaCorporation 11-04-2008 10:03 PM

Yeah, taking Ken here.

Blitz 11-04-2008 10:04 PM

Ken Masters.

Juan 11-04-2008 10:06 PM

I was always a Ryu guy.

BigDaddyCool 11-04-2008 10:08 PM

Like before, Guile.

BigDaddyCool 11-04-2008 10:11 PM

But between Ken and Ryu (is it Rie-you or Re-you?), Ken because Ryu is a douche, while Ken is a lovable jerk.

Kalyx triaD 11-04-2008 10:13 PM

'Re-You'

BigDaddyCool 11-04-2008 10:15 PM

Wrong, Rie-ewe.

Kalyx triaD 11-04-2008 10:18 PM

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This is clearly a dream sequence, with Ryu lasting a whole minute. That fucking bitch-cock.

Kalyx triaD 11-04-2008 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool (Post 2335184)
Wrong, Rie-ewe.

Wrong: Its a fucking corpse after Ken is done with him.

http://www.thebitbag.com/wp-content/...n-training.jpg

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/3...ighter4ts8.jpg

Epic... FUCKING EPIC!!!

:mad::mad::mad:

Kalyx triaD 11-05-2008 12:11 AM


Y2Ant 11-05-2008 12:37 AM

Blue wins again. :cool:

Ken > Ryu

Kalyx triaD 11-05-2008 12:39 AM

This is the only place red wins, baby!

Drakul 11-05-2008 12:49 AM

I voted for Ken, easily. Just because I find him better to play as, really.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool (Post 2335177)
(is it Rie-you or Re-you?)

It's one of those things in games where everyone pronounces it differently.
I say Ry-yoo but others say Ree-yoo or Reey-oo.

Other pronounciation problems are words like Deku (Deh-ku or Dee-koo?) and Zangief. I've heard Zangief pronounced as booth Zan-geef and Zan-gee-eff in Street Fighter products.

The whole thing may be down to your dialect/accent because a lot of Americans seem to pronounce Mario and Wario as Mawr-ee-o and Wawr-ee-o and not Mah-rio and Whah-rio as Europeans and Japanese pronounce it.

edit: On a related note, what's with the Hadouken? That constantly switches it spelling. Sometimes it's spelt Hadouken and other times the U is left out and it's written Hadoken.

Kane Knight 11-05-2008 12:49 AM

Year's later, Ryu is still vanilla.

Y2Ant 11-05-2008 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kalyx triaD (Post 2335419)
This is the only place red wins, baby!

The blue bar is winning on the poll though. :mad:

(and I always use Burple Ken anyway)

Reavant 11-05-2008 10:50 AM

I vote Guile

BigDaddyCool 11-05-2008 11:05 AM

Reey-oo is just plain wrong.

Kane Knight 11-05-2008 02:03 PM

It's Japanese. Pretty much everything Japanese is just plain wrong.

LoDownM 11-05-2008 02:10 PM

They both suck and Chun Li should be the face of Street Fighter.

Jon Kano 11-05-2008 02:19 PM

Interference from Akuma, and he slays the fuck out of both of them because HE IS the supreme champion.

Drakul 11-05-2008 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoDownM (Post 2335890)
They both suck and Chun Li should be the face of Street Fighter.

Street Fighter IV box art:
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.c...fighterbox.jpg

mitchables 11-05-2008 10:35 PM

Gonna go anti-everyone else here and say Ryu, for the following reasons:
  • Ryu gave Sagat his gargantuan fucking chest scar
  • He is a badass, mysterious "wandering warrior", not a fucking attention-seeking glory hog like Masters
  • Ken was fighting T-Hawk in an abandoned warehouse when Bison tracked him down; how desperate was he for battles?
  • Ken gets ambushed like a bitch and brainwashed by Bison without even really putting up any kind of a fight
  • Ryu's power is so immense that Dhalsim could sense it just by being in his general vicinity
  • Ryu holds off Bison way longer than Ken could, who basically gets knocked out of the way and loses function of his legs until he remembers how to work them again, rejoining the battle just in time to fire off one hadouken with Ryu and claim the joint victory, after essentially being out of the entire fight.

:n:

Kalyx triaD 11-05-2008 11:20 PM

Sagat sucks

Ryu's a bum, Ken actually supports his travels.

T-Hawk picked a fight, and rightfully got his ass handed to him.

Bison went after Ken in the first place because he recognized his power.

Dhalsim may have sensed Ken's power as well, but we'd never know as they never came across each other.

Also, check out the Street Fighter American series (USA kids block) which had an episode where Ken defeats Akuma after Ryu fails epically. Despite it being a bastardized American hybrid of the game and movie - that episode is one of the best SF stories ever told. And it perfectly illustrates Ryu's issues and why Ken gets the job done.

And again, a fire uppercut.

mitchables 11-05-2008 11:22 PM

Bison was chasing Ryu before he stumbled across Ken. Ken was his consolation prize because he was so easy to find and capture.

mitchables 11-05-2008 11:25 PM

And also, as for the whole fire uppercut thing, a buttload of good it did him, eh?

mitchables 11-05-2008 11:28 PM

Oh, plus, Ken can't let go of stuff. While Ryu was happily traversing Asia in search of new battles, Ken was obsessing about having a rematch with Ryu.

Baggage much?

Kalyx triaD 11-05-2008 11:29 PM

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Point Settled

:mad:

mitchables 11-05-2008 11:30 PM

And finally, this is one of the coolest opening scenes ever:

<EMBED src=http://www.youtube.com/v/ak0k05_eKNU&hl=en&fs=1 width=425 height=344 type=application/x-shockwave-flash allowfullscreen="true" allowscriptaccess="always">

(between about 1:30 and 5:00)
</EMBED>

mitchables 11-05-2008 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kalyx triaD (Post 2336443)
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Point Settled

:mad:

You can't compare injured Ryu with full-strength Ken, he was at a clear disadvantage.

Besides, Ryu has beaten Ken in the past.

Also, he takes this dude out with a headbutt before wiping the floor with Fei Long:

<EMBED src=http://www.youtube.com/v/Vf_qhxd9kRU&hl=en&fs=1 width=425 height=344 type=application/x-shockwave-flash allowfullscreen="true" allowscriptaccess="always"></EMBED>

This one also contains the T-Hawk/Ken battle, which is awesome in its brevity. Don't get me wrong, I do like Ken, I just thought Ryu had been unfairly represented so far :(

mitchables 11-05-2008 11:46 PM

Note what Ken says, by the way: "No one can stop me... except for Ryu" (6:20)

Straight from the horse's mouth.

Kalyx triaD 11-06-2008 12:17 AM

Ken defeated Ryu in the second tourny (game continuity). As of SF3 Ken has the last win.

BigDaddyCool 11-06-2008 11:52 AM

1) That animation is horrible.

2) Scorpion.

Gertner 11-06-2008 01:07 PM

Ken was a bad ass.

Exyle 11-09-2008 11:56 PM

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I've posted this in another Street Fighter thread, but if there was anything worthy of the proverbial forum bump, it's this video.

Ken by miles.

Heyman 02-14-2009 03:00 AM

Personal preference: I prefer playing with Ken rather than Ryu...and yes...I realize that sounded fucking gay. Keep in mind, I am only basing this opinion on Super Street Fighter II and Super Street Fighter II Turbo. I have not played the other Street Fighter Games enough times to have an opinion.

HOWEVER - Storyline wise, Ryu is the superior fighter. Ryu is the 'hero' of Street Fighter and so from a storyline perspective...I go with Ryu. Ken has motivation issues. :p

p.s. Based purely on SSF2 and SSF2T, I also think that Ryu has better music. Zangief's music is the most badass however. :cool:

G 02-14-2009 03:21 AM

run in from Akuma

Kalyx triaD 02-14-2009 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G (Post 2435373)
run in from Akuma

Screw Akuma. I played him for the last 9-10 years and he's gimmick in the end. Went back to my childhood pick, Ken.

Krimzon7 02-14-2009 09:33 AM

Ken Own's ALL. He's a badass that is all rage and anger! I fucking love rage and anger!!! And Ken's a goddam american. America! Fuck Yeah!

Kalyx triaD 02-14-2009 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krimzon7 (Post 2435502)
Ken Own's ALL. He's a badass that is all rage and anger! I fucking love rage and anger!!! And Ken's a goddam american. America! Fuck Yeah!

What the Hell are you talking about?

Krimzon7 02-14-2009 10:12 AM

I don't know, maybe I'm all rage and anger... But he is a bad ass, and he's american, so he still gets my vote! Its really fucking early here, and I needs me some egg mcmuffins!

Kalyx triaD 02-14-2009 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krimzon7 (Post 2435527)
I don't know, maybe I'm all rage and anger... But he is a bad ass, and he's american, so he still gets my vote! Its really fucking early here, and I needs me some egg mcmuffins!

You are something else.

DaveWadding 02-14-2009 12:54 PM

nerdgasm.net

Kalyx triaD 02-14-2009 12:58 PM

:mad:

Khuntry 02-15-2009 02:20 AM

The answer lies in the heart of battle.....Ryu wins.....always

G 02-15-2009 02:24 AM

What kind of gay shit is that?

Gerard 02-15-2009 10:40 AM

Ryu, im suprised ken even fights for fear of messing his hair or nails up.

Kalyx triaD 02-15-2009 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G (Post 2436114)
What kind of gay shit is that?

Ryu's quote from SF 4. Maybe watch a preview sometime. :roll:

G 02-15-2009 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kalyx triaD (Post 2436438)
Ryu's quote from SF 4. Maybe watch a preview sometime. :roll:



stfu

Kalyx triaD 02-15-2009 01:33 PM

Was it you I gave multiple knee-bashes to? Yeah I think it was.

G 02-15-2009 01:36 PM

The sun was in my eyes.

Kalyx triaD 02-15-2009 01:37 PM

We were in a night time stage.

G 02-15-2009 01:42 PM

I was trying to play from 35ft away and I guess the controller went out of range.

dablackguy 02-15-2009 01:53 PM

Since probably SSF 2 Ken's been the better offensive fighter (Street fighter 3 series included)

That said, I still prefer Ryu

Heyman 02-16-2009 05:03 AM

Street Fighter Rankings List
 
http://www.eventhubs.com/guides/2008...cter-rankings/

Ryu is ahead of Ken by a significant margin.

From a storyline perspective, there is no question as to who the better fighter is (Ryu)

On a personal note however, I enjoy playing with Ken more......:naughty:

D Mac 02-16-2009 05:04 AM

The American is always better. :yes:

Fryza 02-16-2009 03:53 PM

I believe Ken was player two, not player one- if you catch my drift.

Boomer 02-16-2009 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fryza (Post 2438468)
I believe Ken was player two, not player one- if you catch my drift.

Some kind of pitcher-catcher analogy?

DaveBrawl 02-24-2009 03:52 PM

Vega. :shifty:

Fignuts 02-24-2009 04:29 PM

Evil Ryu > Ken > Ryu

Kalyx triaD 02-24-2009 04:43 PM

Did anyone see Sakura's SF4 ending?

Fignuts 02-24-2009 04:45 PM

I did, but I forgot it already.

Kalyx triaD 02-24-2009 04:50 PM

Spoilers:

Sakura sees Ryu taking on that generator thing (following his ending) and she's knocked back by some of it's energy. While on the ground Sakura was pulsing with some reddish sparks that resembled Ryu's Metsu no Hadou effects (Dark Hadou).

Am I looking too much into it that Sakura may have been contaminated with the dark Hadou, possibly because of her adopting some Shoto techniques?

Kalyx triaD 02-24-2009 04:51 PM

This explains it better than me.

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Fignuts 02-24-2009 04:53 PM

What the fuck was that dark hadou thing even doing there? Steet Fighter 2 and 3 actualy had good stories and endings for a japanese fighting game, but it definitely seems like they phoned this one in.

Fignuts 02-24-2009 04:55 PM

Also in regards to sakura, dunno, looks kinda like it was just some risidual energy from getting hit.

MVP 02-24-2009 05:12 PM

Ken because of the Dragon Punch

Super V 02-24-2009 06:48 PM

This is sad....
 
You guys are all faggots :wavesad:

Fignuts 02-24-2009 07:13 PM

You are posting on a proffesional wrestling messageboard.

Kalyx triaD 02-24-2009 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Super V (Post 2447177)
You guys are all faggots :wavesad:

*Sigh*

You have consistently failed to supply anything of value not just for my personal reading pleasure, but in general. You throw your crass statements around in some futile effort to discredit those who relish in geekdom. You are rude, ignorant, and without any form of empathy. Go now, to my list of Ignored Posters - population one. Now two.

Tell Kenny I said hi.

Fignuts 02-24-2009 09:45 PM

To be fair, typing "sigh" DOES make you look like a huge fag.

Kalyx triaD 02-24-2009 10:10 PM

*Sigh*

Kalyx triaD 02-24-2009 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kalyx triaD (Post 2447076)
Spoilers:

Sakura sees Ryu taking on that generator thing (following his ending) and she's knocked back by some of it's energy. While on the ground Sakura was pulsing with some reddish sparks that resembled Ryu's Metsu no Hadou effects (Dark Hadou).

Am I looking too much into it that Sakura may have been contaminated with the dark Hadou, possibly because of her adopting some Shoto techniques?

Correction: "Satsui no Hadō" is the name of what some of us refer to as Dark Hadou. I confused Metsu from Ryu's 'dark' fireball used in his Ultra.

Kalyx triaD 02-24-2009 11:08 PM

Offbeat, I really don't like the continued Americanized translation of Akuma and the Dark Hadou being 'evil'. Neither really are. Akuma's lines in SF4 hurt because of this. He's really just looking for a good fight. Some stuff his accurate, like him wanting Ryu to unleash his dark self.

The Dark Hadou plot is more interesting than the Shadoloo arc to me.

Kalyx triaD 03-18-2009 02:06 AM

We are up in our necks in SF4, so updated analysis is at hand.

Ryu:
  • Plays like Super Turbo Ryu, back to basics (no Sweet Chin Music). Forward+Fierce combos into... anything. Almost nill recovery lag after fireballs.
  • Shoryuken>Focus Cancel>Ultra Fireball is dildos.
  • Should have retained Fake Fireball from HD Remix.
  • Alt. Costume is badass.

Ken:
  • Definitely 3rd Strike Ken. Tricky Kicks are there, including extremely useful Forward+Med Kick.
  • Fierce Shoryuken beats everything.
  • No reason to jump forward really. Still, Air Fierce Punch challenges Anti-Air (often trades damage). Very damaging Cross-Up possibilities.
  • Alt. Costume is gay, clearly meant for a shoveled new character concept.

Funky Fly 03-18-2009 02:41 AM

No sweet chin music = gay. I dominated with Ryu in 3 thanks to that.

DrA 03-18-2009 02:52 AM

Ken is a spoiled brat. Ryu earned his fighting skills the hard way.

Kalyx triaD 03-18-2009 03:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Funky Fly (Post 2469798)
No sweet chin music = gay. I dominated with Ryu in 3 thanks to that.

http://www.fightersgeneration.com/ch...3/ryu-hcfk.gif

They could have made it his Focus Attack.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrA (Post 2469802)
Ken is a spoiled brat. Ryu earned his fighting skills the hard way.

lol What? They trained under the same master!


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