One of the most anticipated ECW Championship match in recent history
 

...atleast IMO :roll:.





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It's going to be the Champion Matt Hardy against Jack Swagger one on one with the title on the line! and it's going to be TAPED!.

I am not a huge ECW fan but I am looking forward to this one.

Do you watch ECW?

Swagger is awesome!

I am expecting a decent contest with nobody running in and causing a dq.

Me too. :yes:

Swagger is doing fine. I hope they don't end his little winning streak.

What about Branden Walker? "The greatest wrestler never to be a World Champion!"

I don't think there's any way in hell that Swagger will actually win, but I really really really really really REALLY hope that he does. Some may say it's too soon to give Swagger a title, but the ECW championship means about dick all anyway, and I'd rather see more of Swagger than Hardy when I watch ECW. Should be a decent match either way.

I think Hardy will retain the belt in some way, but I hope the rivalry continues. Swagger could be the champ by Wrestlemania if he continues to improve. His ring work is good and is a complete asshole on the mic.

Who is Jack Swagger?

ECW is still around? I haven't watched it since the Big show left.

Who?

The All-American American.

He kind of looks like Troy McClure.

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And you made fun of me for wanting them to slow down the push of the guy.

Matt Hardy is fine as ECW Champion right now, and can keep getting the belt over. I'd only agree with a title change if they had plans for both Swagger and Hardy. Putting the belt on a rookie is a pretty big fucking risk, though, considering he's the closest thing they have to a new Brock Lesnar or Bobby Lashley, and they've been afraid talent is going to do another "Brock Lesnar" or "Bobby Lashley."

The ECW championship is the springboard to MMA success.

You act as though it's a risk. Putting the WWE title on someone at Wrestlemania may be a risk, but not this.

Yeah, that's what bothering me, I think. I barely even know who this jackass is, but he's ECW champion.


I mean, I know it's a brand world title, but they're doing a damn fine job of making it look midcard level.

For sure. I always "stick up" for the title in the arguments over it. What I'm contending though is that regardless of what anyone thinks it is a real world title because that's what it's status is. But the bottom line is that it's treated like shit and with each passing move means less.

It really only lived up to it's name with RVD and Big Show, and Matt Hardy has done a fine job of making it look more valuable than it is to creative.
I suppose it had good exposure with Lashley for a bit there, if only because it was involved in that Trump thing which was "main event"

They could have made the US or IC title look like a million bucks if Trump had been involved in it like that.

You guys should really watch ECW. That way you'd be as happy as I am right now.

I like Swagger, but I never remember ECW is on. You can see the problem.

They should just do ECW before Raw on USA, live, from 8-9. Then they could have the pyro at the end of the hour and start Raw, where they moved on to the "important stuff".

It'd be exactly like Nitro. The first hour of Nitro and the guys on it were to WCW as ECW is to WWE nowadays anyways.

Pretty soon WWE will give everyone a title and it will actually be more prestigious to be the one guy who doesn't have a championship belt. That way they can sell the most possible replicas, but the belts will be more like The Scarlet Letter than an accolade.

It'd be absurd to have a different "brand" with a title shown as a seperate entity on the same broadcast, so I'm mostly kidding, but honestly...what does it even matter

I'm not even sure why they wrestle anymore. They should just have Cena and Rey stand in the ring for two hours and tell you to call this number and buy our stuff. Occasionally they would fight off Mike Knox or Kane.

So we're talking about Superstars in the mid 90s?

Swagger is gonna be big!

I am surprised you can think of two ideas.

I really, really like Swagger, but I think it is way too early to put the belt on him. The ECW Title just hasn't been booked consistently strong enough for it to elevate a new guy rather than be brought down to said new guy's level when he wins it.

That being said, yes, the guy is going to be big. If he doesn't go to MMA, that is.

I think this title win means that Jack Swagger has been the quickest guy to win a World Title into his WWE career. He's done it in a bit over four months. I think Brock Lesnar did it in about five? He is just a bit older than Lesnar was when he won his first World Title.

Also, despite being billed as undefeated, Jack Swagger has lost a tag team match to Tommy Dreamer & Finlay.

I miss Superstars :(

Do we even consider the ECW title to be a title anymore?

When did they change the look of the title?

Not long after Mark Henry won the title last year.

"Hi, I'm Troy McClure. You may remember me from such future endeavors as...."

Randy Orton - Youngest World Heavy Weight Champion ever
Jack Swagger - Quickest World Champion in WWE history (possibly)

I stand by my prediction that he will be the next Randy Orton.

He's already outlasted Yokozuna's Wrestlemania IX reign. I'd say he's headed to the top.

Hardy and Swagger actually had a good match.

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It's WWECW. Who cares.

Mickey Mouse should be the ECW World Champion.

They would know his name if they, you know, watched ECW.

It was a pretty good match. The irony of them basically reusing the finish from Razor Ramon/Diesel for the IC title for the ECW title.

Matt starts his matches of good, but then near the end he gets into autopilot mode, where he just goes for his spots and that's that. Maybe a reversal here or there and then the finish. I'm not saying it's Matt's fault, I think they've booked him to be too reliant on moves like the Side Effect or going to the second rope and yelling "AGHHHHHHH!!!!" That pretty much goes for everybody actually. I think it's just especially noticeable with Matt because he has to try like three times before completing the Side Effect, always.

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The NEW face of EXTREME!!!

Seriously though, I consider ECW a glorified, televised feeder league for WWE. The title is pretty meaningless other than to provide a focal point for the main event of the show.

I can see them getting double usage out of this title change. As someone else said, it frees Matt up for a program with Jeff vs. E&C, PLUS now Tommy Dreamer has a heel to go after during his self-imposed "Win the title or retire" angle.

This is true, my dream match for this Mania would be
Fatal 4 Way WWE Championship Ladder Match
Jeff VS Matt VS Edge VS Christian

:y:?