FIELD GOAL!! *Spoilers*
 

So Orton punts Vince's head off.

Where do we go from here?

it is 1027 here you posted at 1023 arter raw ended and you got spoilers?:wtf:

Try posting news like this without a spoiler warning and see what happens. *Cue Gohan*

The obvious choice here is for Orton to have to deal with Shane but I'm wondering if Vince is actually up to the challenge for Mania. Not like he hasn't done it before.

Randy Orton becomes a monotonous vicious killing machine.

They are really making the THE monster heel now.

All I can say is that Randy Orton's character now is the best in the business. Bar none.

That was a mark out moment. I actually cheered when that happened.

Where do we go from here?

Next week, Vince McMahon returns and the microwave explodes while he is warming up a Pillsbury Pizza Pop.

The next week, Vinnie Mac returns to get mauled by a leopard while walking the hallway.

The following week he accidentally drowns in the bathtub.

And so on.

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I thought this now played live overseas (granted that's still 2AM, but still live).

Anyway, definitely a mark out moment...wrestling has been so predictable to me, that something out of the ordinary is awesome.

The optimist negged repped me for my Buffy posting. Know this Mr.Optimist: there is no greater insult than what you have done, and this means war.

I evened it out, you vile beast.

The notion of neggin Buffy is the issue here, not the red dot itself. I will forgive you, just this once, simply based on the fact you raised the white flag in such haste. Nut you're on thin ice pal.

It was Buffy Sims, dude. That made the difference. If it had been the song by itself I would have laughed and left it at that. But it was a video made from Sims about the song, choreographed to their movements with pretty damn accurate faces and everything. You knew what you were doing and where you were going with that.

I'd quit while I was ahead here TO.

ITS BACK ON

Orton's immediate reaction after the punt is what made me mark out. The slap, light kick, and then punt were all awesome, but his acting was so well done.

Seriously though..... the slap was amazing on its own. I was like "what's going to happen now" then he bitch kicked him and punted him.

Orton has the potential to be one of the best characters for years. If he can pick up the pace in the ring just a little bit he'll be one of the only things I look forward to every week.

Now I'm excited for next week's Raw. He's probably going to win the Rumble. I hope he doesn't. I'd love for a surprise winner this year.

My theory was the Shane thing in the Raw thread. I am still comfortable with that.

Randy apparently has some critical hit powers even for non-fans because I usually can't give him the time of day, but the whole kicking scene was too good.

The slow motion replay was great.

Randy Orton wins the Rumble and the McMahons will go through hell to make sure he doesn't headline WrestleMania. This could be an awesome rehash of the whole angle from 1999 only with the heel/face roles switched.

Awesome and Rehash don't work together.

Jim Cornette Rule

That RKO chant he got told me something right then and there...a legend is born.

What if Shane comes back aligned with Legacy? He fits right in considering they are all second or third generation stars. He could be the reason Orton doesnt get fired. He can feud against dad and sis. Either way it goes Orton broke through the glass ceiling on raw tonight in my opinion.

Bingo. I'm not thinking that they'll do it, but we're way past the Cornette Rule expirary date on the whole Austin/McMahon thing.

I am yet to actually see the segment, but just looking at the pictures, I thought it would be stupid, but reading reports, it sounds chilling. "You don't want to do that, sir." Orton is far from a great actor, but he's got this character down pat, and is only getting more and more in tune with it.

I'm starting to see what Paul Heyman sees in Randy Orton. I'm just wondering if The Legacy is the best thing for Orton right now, or whether he'd be better off as a lone wolf type character.

Some people have guessed that Shane McMahon will join The Legacy, and give them backing, which I think would be very cool. I've seen some say that Randy Orton is in cahoots with Stephanie McMahon, and she wanted him to take out her dad. Either way, I think we'll see a McMahon stand by Orton's side to make sure he gets into the Rumble Match. And to be honest, after RAW, he'll probably win.

My money is on that happening.

Yeah, I marked out for both Mike Knox and Randy Orton tonight. I feel... unclean.

First time in at least 6 months I'm actually making sure I watch RAW...

Orton punted Vince's head off?

Another Vince is dead angle...,.

I call for you to get your name changed.

I call for pizza.

That kick was the hotness, it looked like he really caught Vince GOOD.

I loved it all...its like Orton slapped him, then lost it and coudnt stop himself from punting Vince, then his reaction afterward was great. LIke "What did I do!?!?!"

I loved it,.

The problem here is it looks like they are trying to make him a heel by beating down the biggest heel of them all...He is going to end up as SCSA part 2. Or HBK/DX part 2.

I see what they did with jericho, take the top heel, make the McMahons fuck with him to put them in the Face light, but it just doesnt work with that.

The Mcmahons cannot be faces anymore, except Linda.

Shane, people love Shane.

Sometimes, but he also can be the heel, which has has been more recently (Against DX).

No one will root for him unless he is up against Vince or defending his mom.

The McMahons are like Kane, they can switch between face and heel every week and still be accepted by the fans.

Calling it now, it's going to be Vince or Shave vs Jericho at Mania.

Shave, lol.

I wonder how they would expect face-Vince to work.

I would like to see Shave Vs Jericho

Orton's Punt= Ratings.

That

was awesome

Orton just became THE guy to watch in the WWE.

I'd rather see Shave vs Mike Knox tbh.

Shave vs. Jericho with Mike Knox as special guest ref.

I called Shane vs Jericho a while ago, but I'm not going to make a stink. Believe it or not I was suggesting before the "firing" stuff even came up

Shave vs Jericho would be far better tho

Jericho will shave us!

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I hope this angle doesnt keep orton out of the mainevent at wrestlemania, I can see vince or shave facing him if thats the way they want to go.

Goddamn, how fucking Bad Ass was that shit.

You're Fir...... *SLAP*

C'mon Afterlife, even Stevie Wonder could see that shit was good.

I could watch that shit all day

If Sgt Slaughter had been there, that never would have happened.

Vince fucked up.

Actually, this could have been better.

After the Punt, had orton done his whole "Coil up" thing and just stared at vince's unconscious face like an inch away. Just total Ice.

MAH, YOU GREEDY FUCK! :mad:

WHAT?!?! I just think it could have made Orton the craziest fuck ever. Instead he might get face pops.

That's what they're trying to prevent now though. That don't want Stone Cold Randy Orton. He's already getting RKO chants when Cena is supposed to be the face. I'm actually starting to think it may be Steph that he aligns with. She's more hateable than Shane.

That's what I'm sayin'

I don't see you sayin' that.

Oh, yes I do.

I agree that Steph's more hateable, if you will, but I still don't think that makes her the better fit. Shane's not far behind when it comes to getting heat, and he has the whole "son of a legend" thing going on. He can also wrestle.

Shane can't wrestle...he just happens to be as crazy of a spot monkey as Jeff Hardy. However, guess that's more than Steph still.

I think there is potential that they will both join for the purpose of Shane taking bumps. Double McMahon heat for Orton would cancel out any face pops for him for a bit while the Legacy acts a second-gen Corporation. Cena would probably nab Kofi and CM. Eventually they do the Hart/Austin switch somehow during a match after Orton becomes a tweener and has dropped DiBiases/Rhodes.

First of all he's a promoters son. He's not a wrestler. I simply mean that he winds up in a lot of good matches. Sure, they're 'spotfests', but they're well worked spotfests. He's not CZW shit, they're actually well put together matches. Some people call Mick Foley and Raven spot monkeys.
He's a lot of fun to watch, and as far as promoters sons go he's much better to watch than Greg Gagne.

I should have phrased it "Shane can have matches"

Fuck whoever calls Raven a spot monkey :mad:

Fuck whoever calls Foley a spot monkey.

What about "glorified stunt man"?

Anyone got any video of the punt?

Post #49

......oh Orton...

Hey, he's an optimist, not a retard. ;)

In kayfabe terms, Orton would almost HAVE to align with Stephanie. With Vince being out of commission RIGHT after announcing that he and Stephanie would run Raw together, that should leave Stephanie as the sole person in charge of Raw. If she would fire Jericho just for saying that she sucked at her job, why would she not fire Orton for murdering her father? Stephanie being in cahoots with Orton is actually the only thing that would make sense here. Even Shane wouldn't have the power to save Orton's job, I don't think.

This is what I've been saying all week.

Some really nice shit on Raw after a long long time.

The way he just looks at people with those "Stone Cold" eyes is just amazing.

A MISSOURI boy