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Xero 01-22-2009 04:53 PM

Is Santino Marella really supposed to be funny?
 
Because I just watched two "Santino's Casas" and thought they contained some of the worst forced comedy I've ever seen.

IC Champion 01-22-2009 05:15 PM

It is WWE after all.

Mr. Nerfect 01-22-2009 05:43 PM

A guy who creates crappy photoshopped pictures ("It's not real! get it!?!"), and creates threads with the borrowed "gimmick" of posting a picture of a lizard, is questioning the comedic talents of a man with wit, timing and delivery?

Eh, it's not the most ridiculous thing I've seen on these boards.

Alan The Rapist 01-22-2009 05:47 PM

I don't watch the dotcom vids, but his timing with a crowd is usually pretty good.

Juan 01-22-2009 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by AlanTheRapist316 (Post 2407541)
I don't watch the dotcom vids, but his timing with a crowd is usually pretty good.


Nark Order 01-22-2009 05:59 PM

I think Santino Marella is funny.

I do not think Xero is funny.

define funny

SammyG 01-22-2009 06:01 PM

^^^^^

Kane Knight 01-22-2009 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noid (Post 2407533)
A guy who creates crappy photoshopped pictures ("It's not real! get it!?!"), and creates threads with the borrowed "gimmick" of posting a picture of a lizard, is questioning the comedic talents of a man with wit, timing and delivery?

Eh, it's not the most ridiculous thing I've seen on these boards.

Wow. The sound of the pot calling the kettle black. In spades.

Xero 01-22-2009 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noid (Post 2407533)
A guy who creates crappy photoshopped pictures ("It's not real! get it!?!"), and creates threads with the borrowed "gimmick" of posting a picture of a lizard, is questioning the comedic talents of a man with wit, timing and delivery?

Eh, it's not the most ridiculous thing I've seen on these boards.

HLS

Xero 01-22-2009 06:17 PM

But seriously, my "comedy" aside, Santino is fucking terrible. He speaks funny and makes "humorous" observations by Photoshopping his face on shit. Maybe during a promo he'll come out dressed as who he's feuding with and mix up their name and mock their gimmick.

He's not very deep, and I hardly call what he does 'witty'. He has timing, I'll give you that, but that's where it ends. Like I said, everything in the videos seemed extremely forced and, at best, passable for a skit on Nickelodeon.

Yes, I realize that he's made to be marketed to the Nickelodeon crowd, but the love he gets from people around here and the community in general dumbfounds me.

Fox 01-22-2009 06:17 PM

I also find Santino unfunny.

Kane Knight 01-22-2009 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Xero (Post 2407585)
Yes, I realize that he's made to be marketed to the Nickelodeon crowd, but the love he gets from people around here and the community in general dumbfounds me.

I think you've accidentally stumbled upon the truth, here.

Halbowsky 01-22-2009 06:34 PM

I think because it's "forced" makes it funny

Team Sheep 01-22-2009 06:43 PM

Sometimes he's funny but then other times the accent and everything is just too forced.

Fox 01-22-2009 06:46 PM

Santino is not witty. Jericho was witty. Rock was witty. Santino just pronounces words funny and people on here suddenly are like "OMG Santino is so fucking funny. Here, look at my kids in my wallet!" BAM BAM BAM. I mean, come on.

Xero 01-22-2009 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fox (Post 2407613)
Santino is not witty. Jericho was witty. Rock was witty. Santino just pronounces words funny and people on here suddenly are like "OMG Santino is so fucking funny. Here, look at my kids in my wallet!" BAM BAM BAM. I mean, come on.

Thank you.

Juan 01-22-2009 07:07 PM

These are the same people that praise guys like Snitsky and slam guys like CM Punk, so are you really that surprised?

Juan 01-22-2009 07:08 PM

Wow, i feel dirty after that generalization :nono:

I take it back

Nark Order 01-22-2009 07:09 PM

You make it sound like he puts no effort into anything at all. I don't know if you're ever done comedy before but it's really hard. You're right in the fact that Santino doesn't have much material to work with but I think that also speaks leaps and bounds for his comedic timing. He can make something that is generally unfunny funny, which is an awesome trait. Also, the words that he mispronounces and how he mispronounces them are pretty ingenious sometimes. The guy knows what he's doing.

Theo Dious 01-22-2009 07:11 PM

I find him to be funny in his quicker appearances (the business with Rosa Mendez and "Can we keep her? Pleeeeeeeeease?" on Raw was great,) but I agree with Xero about Santino's Casa. I find it funny occasionally but it usually has that constipated aspect that bad, forced comedy has.

Nark Order 01-22-2009 07:12 PM

Also, now that people think he's funny he's got a bunch of pressure on him now to be funny every week.

Theo Dious 01-22-2009 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Narcissus (Post 2407644)
Also, the words that he mispronounces and how he mispronounces them are pretty ingenious sometimes. The guy knows what he's doing.

See the funniest thing he does to me is mis-say names. I don't even say mispronounce, because it's not that he CAN'T say someone's name, it's more like "I don't even care enough to bother to say it right." Saying "Roddy the Piper" isn't mispronouncing anything, it's just a heel tactic of "I don't care about you people enough to even speak your language right." Again though, it's funny to me only in brief shots or short promos playing the crowd, but a web-feature with no crowd interplay just falls on its face.

TNASUCKS 01-22-2009 07:45 PM

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He has his moments

Kane Knight 01-22-2009 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Narcissus (Post 2407644)
You make it sound like he puts no effort into anything at all. I don't know if you're ever done comedy before but it's really hard.

And not everyone's cut out to be a comedian. And that's fine. "Comedy is hard" is not really an excuse for Santino sucking. I'm sure he puts a lot of effort into it. I'm also sure Jim Carrey put a lot of effort into talking out his rear end.

Kane Knight 01-22-2009 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Tedious (Post 2407656)
See the funniest thing he does to me is mis-say names. I don't even say mispronounce, because it's not that he CAN'T say someone's name, it's more like "I don't even care enough to bother to say it right." Saying "Roddy the Piper" isn't mispronouncing anything, it's just a heel tactic of "I don't care about you people enough to even speak your language right." Again though, it's funny to me only in brief shots or short promos playing the crowd, but a web-feature with no crowd interplay just falls on its face.

My favorite bit is when Beth manhandles him, but then, I'm pretty sure most people on the roster could be funny in the role of "Phonics' bitch."

Juan 01-22-2009 08:20 PM

:rofl: Rey Mastrio

TNASUCKS 01-22-2009 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Juan (Post 2407735)
:rofl: Rey Mastrio

any man who hides behind the mask is either incredibly ugly incredibly stupid or is the batman :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Krimzon7 01-22-2009 08:58 PM

Santino is Great, on WWE Programing. After the success of The Dirt Sheet, the E just got carried away and gave anybody new with a sense of "humor" a webshow. There is no way we should have a 'Word Up" or a "Casa".

Theo Dious 01-22-2009 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by TNASUCKS (Post 2407745)
any man who hides behind the mask is either incredibly ugly incredibly stupid or is the batman :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

And YOU are NOT the Batman!

Lock Jaw 01-22-2009 09:59 PM

I admit, Santino's Casa isn't very good. Santino is at his best in front of a crowd and playing the clown (not like he is an actual clown, but funny as in a).

St. Jimmy 01-23-2009 12:53 AM

Still funnier than Dane Cook and Will Ferrel COMBINED.

St. Jimmy 01-23-2009 12:53 AM

So really not that funny at all.

Nark Order 01-23-2009 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Kane Knight (Post 2407730)
And not everyone's cut out to be a comedian. And that's fine. "Comedy is hard" is not really an excuse for Santino sucking. I'm sure he puts a lot of effort into it. I'm also sure Jim Carrey put a lot of effort into talking out his rear end.

He doesn't suck though, nor was I using that as an excuse for him 'sucking'. Where's that strawman when you need him? I think the main complaint here is that he isn't consistantly funny which is a bit critical imo. I'm seeing people agree with the fact that he's funny and enjoyable on RAW but not on his shows. Seeing as how he's on television once a week and has an internet show once a week, this isn't all that surprising that he runs out of steam from time to time. The average comedian isn't on television once a week, nor do they adlib most of their acts (most of them. Some of them do). Seeing as how Santino is a professional wrestler, is performing on television at least once a week, and is getting such praise for his comedic work (until now I guess), I say he's doing pretty damn good.

Alan The Rapist 01-23-2009 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlanTheRapist316 (Post 2407541)
I don't watch the dotcom vids, but his timing with a crowd is usually pretty good.


Anybody Thrilla 01-23-2009 11:42 AM

I enjoy Santino, and I don't really feel pressed to let anybody know exactly why I do. I just do. Think about how critical people are of pro wrestling in general. Whenever somebody finds out I watch it, they're usually like "this shit is retarted", and to an extent, they're right, but I'm still going to watch it. My enjoyment of Santino is like justifying watching wrestling to people who already do, if that makes any sense.

BigDaddyCool 01-23-2009 12:03 PM

He is amusing, but not like a comic genius.

Anybody Thrilla 01-23-2009 12:06 PM

I don't really see Santino getting an hour and a half special on HBO or appearing on Def Comedy Jam, but I definitely enjoy him for about ten minutes a week, usually less.

thedamndest 01-23-2009 12:37 PM

I have liked him less since he got his unibrow.

RVDmark 01-23-2009 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Xero (Post 2407585)
But seriously, my "comedy" aside, Santino is fucking terrible. He speaks funny and makes "humorous" observations by Photoshopping his face on shit. Maybe during a promo he'll come out dressed as who he's feuding with and mix up their name and mock their gimmick.

Xero meet The Rock, The Rock meet Xero.

Xero 01-23-2009 04:23 PM

And Rock had shitty comedy*. I've always said this, specifically when comparing him to Cena. I love Rock for his range and his heel character, not his face comedy.

Still, Rock was miles ahead of Santino and I think a better a better comparison would be the bWo, which is still way off.

*Post-mark days I've come to this conclusion. When I was a mark in middle school during his height, yeah, he was funny.

Mr. Nerfect 01-23-2009 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kane Knight (Post 2407568)
Wow. The sound of the pot calling the kettle black. In spades.

I've never photoshopped a picture in my life. And I've never done the lizard. :|

Mr. Nerfect 01-23-2009 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fox (Post 2407613)
Santino is not witty. Jericho was witty. Rock was witty. Santino just pronounces words funny and people on here suddenly are like "OMG Santino is so fucking funny. Here, look at my kids in my wallet!" BAM BAM BAM. I mean, come on.

You're missing the core of Santino's humour. He doesn't just mispronounce words, and he doesn't just speak funny. Santino is very aware of what he is doing. The way he mispronounces words to create obscure references (it's not just that he says something wrong, it's that he makes he says something wrong right). And as Tedious said, a lot of the time he gets names wrong on purpose because of arrogance, not because he is an idiot that cannot speak.

The slapstick stuff is a bit much, but that's just what Santino has to work with. But I guess humour is subjective. I'll go out to further depths than most people, though, and I'll say that Santino Marella is far more witty than The Rock. While he was purely entertaining, The Rock's comedy was pretty much just him getting in people's faces and talking trash to them. Sure, it was funny at times, but I'd definitely say Santino's comedy is more developed.

The guy almost made Vince McMahon, trying to be in serious heel mode, crack up laughing in his debut. That takes skill. Even if you're not big enough to admit it.

Mr. Nerfect 01-23-2009 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Narcissus (Post 2407644)
You make it sound like he puts no effort into anything at all. I don't know if you're ever done comedy before but it's really hard. You're right in the fact that Santino doesn't have much material to work with but I think that also speaks leaps and bounds for his comedic timing. He can make something that is generally unfunny funny, which is an awesome trait. Also, the words that he mispronounces and how he mispronounces them are pretty ingenious sometimes. The guy knows what he's doing.

This. :y:

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Originally Posted by Kane Knight (Post 2407733)
My favorite bit is when Beth manhandles him, but then, I'm pretty sure most people on the roster could be funny in the role of "Phonics' bitch."

Ah, this explains it.


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