NFL 2009 Off Season Thread
 

Yeah, let's get this baby started.

So what's in the news...

Patriots put the franchise tag on Matt Cassel, so they must not be confident Brady will be ready for the start of the season. I highly doubt anyone will be willing to give up two 1st rounders to sign Cassel so this boy is going to get paaaaaaaaaaaaaaid. Probably around $15 million

If the Patriots do sign Cassel under the franchise tag rule, he would make more than Brady next season.

Colts should get Haynesworth for shits and giggles

The Ravens could potentially be in trouble. Ray Lewis, Terrell Suggs, and Bart Scott are all unrestricted free agents.

Also the Giants have both Jacobs and Ward as unrestricted free agents. Jacobs has been very vocal about returning and Ward will most likely get a ton of money elsewhere to start.

I wish they could both stay but Ward will probably leave. I really don't think he can carry the load by himself though. The Giants have Bradshaw waiting in the wings for a more active role so they will probably go with that.

Marshawn Lynch arrested for possession of a concealed weapon.

Probably fucked himself now after that hit and run.

Motherfucking Marshawn Lynch. What The Fuck.

Latest word is that Lynch's gun was legal and registered, and in the Trunk of the car.

My thought is that the gun was loaded, which would be what he was charged with.

Well my dysfunctional Bengals are on the verge of losing TJ to free agency, and Chad will be gone (Thank GOD). Julius Peppers want's out of Carolina, so it will be interesting to see where he lands. Fucking Patirots, Peppers wants to play in a 3-4 or so he says.

WHAT? YOU'RE A BENGALS FAN? WHAAAAAAAAT?

also yeah read today that Chad and TJ are both on the way out

dunno how they'll handle TJ because franchising him and then trading him seems like a good move but who knows nowadays what you'll get for an aging wideout

TJ said he wants to play for a winner. Harrison might be leaving Indy. Indy could use a slot receiver. Seems about as perfect a match as you'll find. Hell TJ wouldn't even have to buy a new house.

Yeah, TJ says he wants to go to Philly! That is crazy. Yes I'm a Bengals fan, and I actually know another! We need a running back! and a good DE. It would be sweet to see Ray Ray do marvin lewis a favor and head to cincy... We've got enough receivers, but they're young. We can save money by dumping TJ and chad.

Can't tag Houz, they really needed a kicker. Pretty smart use of the franchise, Bungles

I would welcome TJ to NY. If the Giants keep Plaxico I'm going to be a little annoyed.

Houz, had already stated that he'd go Ocho Cinco if the front office tagged him. We have a bevy of young receivers, and trust me, TJ stays nicked up. CHad may have lost a step. Fuck them. Let Carson hit a bunch of random young guns. It worked for Brady!

He's got to stay healthy, as well.

And Simpson is still three years off, and Holt and Purify weren't drafted for a reason.

Yeah, I thought Carson was headed for Tommy John surgery. His career woulda been over. He did the right thing to sit out the year. I would Run a Lap around Atlanta if we could get Brian Oragkpo in the draft.

Some rumors I've been hearing is that Ray Lewis is interested in coming to play for Washington.

And if Chad's leaving the Bungles, he may be heading to DC as well. He apperently wants to play for Snyder.

I don't see it, I think that cat out of Baylor is the likely choice, but if they really want him, he'll be available.

And Ray Ray isn't going anywhere, and Snyder can't afford 85 at this point. They're still like 7 million over cap

The deal was on the table for the Bengals to take TWO NUMBER 1's from Snyder. unless that's still on the table forget it. Chad's still under contract. TJ wants to go to Philly, and he's started lighting the bridges at Paul Brown Stadium. Ray Ray is 35, and he's most likely headed to Dallas, to stabilize that locker room

Bart Scott isn't going to be resigned, and Suggs has already said he'll take a pay cut (he'll be franchised so it won't much matter). Ray is going to retire as a Raven, no chance he's moving.

Snyder could offer two number one's when he wasn't going to pick up the check until 2009. Now, he's fucked. Just to get under cap, he's going to have to release Taylor and Washington. It's likely he'll release Springs, and with cap numbers, Andre Carter may have to go. While Randel El restructured, Moss is still getting paid entirely too much for the two games he produces a season. Portis could get released to free up the necessary cap room (and wouldn't be as terrible an idea as some people may think), but it won't happen from a marketing standpoint. Collins is another huge cap anchor, as is Samuels, and Griffen, but releasing them will actually cost them more then keeping them.

Snyder is fucked! At least he's trying to win. The Bengals (Brown Family) are consistently the top 5 in the NFL as far as profit. But we lose every year!

I'm interested in seeing what the Packers do this offseason. Ted Thompson's been notorious for sitting on piles of cash every offseason and preferring to build through the draft, but this offseason isn't one where you want to be frugal. They desperately need some help defensively, considering they could've been a playoff team last year if their defense could have held their fourth quarter leads.

Hiring Dom Capers and switching to the 3-4 is going to require an overhaul of the defense. I'd love to get Julius Peppers, but that's probably a pipe dream. Maybe they could look at someone like Bart Scott, who's a 3-4 vet, to fill one of the OLB positions. Right now it's looking like they'll be moving Aaron Kampman to OLB and pushing Hawk back inside, ending up with a corps of Poppinga/Chillar-Barnett-Hawk-Kampman. My biggest worry is that they don't really have that prototypical run-stuffing DT that you need in a 3-4. Haynesworth would be nice, but I'd be surprised if he'd even consider Green Bay.

While some of that may be true, the actual problem with the Packers is the lack of a run game. Their defense was a top 10 two years ago with largely the same crew, and it's still one of the youngest teams in the NFL. The major difference was Ryan Grant's lack of production. Boosting the offensive line may be the way to go keeping pressure off of Rogers, and allowing running holes for Grant.

That said, pretty much everyone has you taking Raji or Everett

The bengals really screwed themselves by going on that winning streak to end the year. They could've had the #2 pick and their choice of O lineman. Now they have to wait to see which of the big 3 will be left if any. Not too worried though because all 3 look like studs.

Saints cut Deuce McAllister.

Head for the hills, Krispy is probably fuming.

I had even heard that Tennessee was a possible option for TJ.

I'm wondering how he would be as WR here.

In all honestly I think TJ would be a good/great fit on any team as long as they're good. He's not the kind of guy to bitch about touches or any of the other diva crap. He just wants to win and he wants to get paid. It's a shame that he's had to waste his prime on such a shitty team but he'll be a force for whoever he winds up with next year.

And Mike Nolan begins the changes.

Word is 'Dre Bly is gonna get released from the Broncos.

Eh on that. Bly could be good at times, but just got shit on WAY too many times

Where did you see this? I haven't been able to find anything that states this.

The bengals honestly don't need an oline, as much as we need a running back. our line is solid, and was one of the best just two years ago. the lack of a D line, and a running back is where we fall short.

It was on NFL Network.com, let me see if I can find the article...

There it is

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=090...o&confirm=true

Not a great year to need a back.

Free Agents are older this year, and the draft is shallow.

Maybe Deuce can patch the hole....Or Taylor, and they can nab a complimentary rookie.

I don't know what games you were watching but the Bengals gave up 51 sacks last year. Yeah they were good a couple years ago. Now Steinbach is gone, Willie is gone, Braham is gone, and Levi is a mess. 80% of this solid O-Line is not there.

They gave up 51 sacks due to Ryan Fitzpatrick not being NFL ready. He held the ball too long, we have no running game, what would most defenses do? blitz the rookie QB. Bobby Williams, Andrew Wentworth, are solid Guards, we can add a year to some of our younger linemen and I believe we have our starting 5, with Levi returning to form. The best thing our line could use is a running game to take pressure off of Carson. we shouldn't have gotten rid of steinbach, but anderson and braham were on the decline. A good run offense is what's needed. If we could just kiss Wards ass enough to get him to Cincy...

Blunts were found in the Lynch car.

Oh dear.

Stop talking. You know nothing.

Fitz is not a rookie QB. He is like a 7 year veteran.

Last year's defense really struggled by not getting the consistent pass rush they had the year before thanks to guys like Corey Williams (although Williams seemed to be a flop in Cleveland, so even if he hadn't been traded, they probably wouldn't have been as good). There was also the injuries to Charles Woodson and Al Harris, and the safeties generally struggled in pass coverage. I still have no idea how Nick Collins made the Pro Bowl. He reminds me of Darren Sharper in that he got a lot of attention for a high INT total, but unless you watch the game you have no idea just how much of a liability he is.

The offensive line definitely needs to be improved, but I'm afraid that one of the big 3 tackles won't be available by the time they pick at #9. That's where they'll probably pick up a guy like Everett to be a pure pass rusher, or just trade down and hope for the best. God knows Thompson loves stockpiling picks, so I wouldn't be surprised to see him trade down and maybe try to nab Oher or something while gaining and extra 2nd or 3rd rounder.

Hello, Conduct Policy! Goodbye, 8 paychecks...

Hanso, Fitzpatrcik has not taken a real snap in his NFL career before this past season. and the way he played, he should've claimed he was a rookie! lemme fix your statement, he's a 5 year vagabond.

It was not all Fitzpatrick's fault. Palmer only played 4 games and was sacked 11 times. That's horrible.

He has started and won a few games while he was still in St Louis d-bag. He has played 5 offseasons, 5 preseasons. He is far from a rookie.

he is a journeyman backup QB. Huge difference.

Actually, he only won 1 game in St Louis and that was as a mid game replacement. He lost the 3 games he started.

- Jordan Gross signs a long-term deal with Carolina, paving the way for Julius Peppers to get franchised.

- Nnamdi Asomugha about to sign a long-term deal with the Raiders that'll give him about $26 million guaranteed in the first two years. Asomugha's a good corner, but you'd have to figure Al Davis would realize that giving out these big guaranteed money deals isn't pretty smart after DeAngelo Hall, Javon Walker, etc.

- Colts are expected to cut Marvin Harrison sometime this offseason in a cost-cutting move.

Hanso, I stand corrected. He managed to play in 4 games during the NFL season. Good that Carolina has managed to tackle Gross. I heard rumors that Peppers will demand the trade, citing Dallas as a possible destination. I know he wants to play in a 3-4. Has he listed any other teams? I would go mad with rage if he says PIttsburgh.

You can't compare Asomugha to an overhyped motormouth like Hall and a receiver who barely has any knees left like Walker. He's arguably the best corner in the game and in his prime.

Very Good point. Asomugha is the new 'shut down corner' in the league. The old guard has slowed a step. Whether it is from injury or age, you have to give Al Davis credit: his overpaying this guy is a decent move.

lol, whats your problem?

NFL players are such dumbasses. I will never understand for the life of me how they can constantly get caught up in court cases for the stupidest shit ever. I would live like a recluse during my career if I was in the NFL.

The average football player is young, and rich. Here's how an average NFL work day shakes out...

6:00 am -show up at team facility, work out
7:30 am - eat breakfast
8:00 am - team meeting
8:15-9:15 - position meetings
11:00 Practice
2:00pm done for day.
Sounds like a lot? it isn't. This is a schedule that football players have followed for at least 10 years, factoring in classes or some such shit. We can do this routine on auto pilot, and then...
These young men want to go out, be seen and enjoy having unlimited amounts of money and fame. This is a new event for most, because they grew up in shitty upbringings. There should be more of a training/mentor program for the younger players.

When I signed my first contract, I was pretty excited, I was nowhere near milionaire status, but I went out and did all the stupid shit associated with 'being a professional football player'. I was humble for like 3 weeks, until I got used to the time zone, altitude, and new city. Then, I was all about being in a club, or in some cheerleader's panties. There has to be some accountability on the players part, and the organization's behalf as well.

Marshawn Lynch charged with 3 weapons charges.

4 Game Suspension will be a minimum IMHO

Correction - live like a recluse in a huge fucking house with probably everything you could want

I understand and I also dont when it come to players.

I get that many players are from poor, ghetto backgrounds, and once they hit it big, they still want to stay true to their roots and go out to the same clubs etc. They should have every right to do this. But the fact is that the atmosphere in those places puts a huge target on your back.

There are guys in these clubs that will rob anyone, and when they know you are rich you are a target, hence the need for Posses and Guns. The players just want to do what they love and be protect themselves.

I get that somewhat. But I still sthink that it is the wrong idea. They need to accept that life has changed and avoid these situations.

Hanso, you're very right. I agree that young athletes should realize that they're now upperclass citizens. I totally think that the real people who drop the ball are the GM's, Owners, and front office who don't continually educate these kids about the downfalls of 'keeping it real'.

Wait wait wait a fucking moment here. Did anyone see this?


Are you telling me you're a professional football player? And you post on an internet wrestling message board?

Have you checked out the 15 questions thread? You should. I played arena football. I hung up the cleats (or sneakers) last year, and the league folded this year. Plus, I LOVE WRESTLING! and some of you fuckers are pretty funny.

You'd be surprised what football players do in their spare time. I won't name names, but some of the brutes you cheer for like to molest children, beat their wives, jam dicks in their mouths and ass, kill people, sell drugs, raise good kids, have successful marriages, and watch wrestling.

That goes without saying. :D

So apparently Marvin Harrison wants to be released altogether.

Wow.

Where will he go?

I hope everyone in this thread dies

You should cock punch yourself, then Bill Polian

<font color=goldenrod>Bucs release Derrick Brooks, Joey Galloway, Ike Hilliard, Cato June, and Warrick Dunn. holy shit</font>

Rams release Bennett. OH HAPPY DAY!!!!!!

Green, too. Meh. Old fuck.

Not thaaaaaaat shocking.

Giants sign Brandon Motherhehe Jacobs to a 4 year deal, YES

looks like talks broke down with cardinals and warner. Seems like Housh, Ray Lewis, K Collins will all hit the open market.

Bills cut Derrick Docker y and Robery Royal...Thank god.

Dockery is on the way back to Washington.

Haynesworth inks 7 year 100 million dollar deal...Juilus Peppers just jizzed in his pants. Carolina, prepare to grab your ankles.

with the Colts?

That Haynesworth contract is just ridiculously stupid. Yeah, NFL contracts aren't guaranteed so he'll probably be cut in a few years, but by that time they'll already have paid him at least $70 million ($41 million is guaranteed, and he'll make $32 million during the first 13 months of the deal). And this is for a player that could've been considered a pretty big bust before last season.

The Redskins has a history of overpaying people. And Haynesworth was never a 'bust'. He was just a rage case...To the best of my memory. He had that gun charge, and other issues too. But his play was always solid.

The Colts didnt tender an offer to Keiaho. Not sure what they have left under the cap. Last i heard it was 6.6. I wonder what Ray Lewis is asking for. I'd shit my pants if he took a pay cut to come play with Indy and win another ring.

So Haynesworth is pretty much guaranteed to suck a dick this year. Oh wait the Redskins signed Haynesworth so obviously Superbowl for them

The Redskins also just signed DeAngelo Hall.

wait for it

wait for it

6 years, $54 Million

haaaaaaaaaaa

I am hoping Buffalo picks up Keiaho. We play a similar Cover 2, and we need the speed.

Bills wont be making any splashes, but I am hoping for 2-3 2nd tier upgrades.

Lavernius Coles is supposed to be stopping by this week. Would love to have him to go with Evans.

Redskins are idiots.

Oh yeah Hall's contract comes with $22 million in guarantees

haaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

<font color=goldenrod>LOL Foreskins</font>

Ok now that the joking is out of the way, the first actual good signing of the FA season:

Patriots sign RB Fred Taylor

Bart Scott to the Jets

Damn. I'll bet Snyder is gonna up the ticket prices at Six Flags with these moves.

"Golden Boy" Tom Brady gets hitched.

Also with Scott going to the Jets, that means Lewis is either staying a Raven or he's headed elsewhere.

FUCK THAT FAG GOD

Jeff Saturday is staying in Indianapolis

thank you jesus

That's pretty huge for Indy. I thought he was going to go elsewhere but he signed right before the FA period even started. Didn't even test the market

Nothing major on the Broncos front. We're expected to sign Correll Buckhalter and JJ Arrington to contracts. Why we need runningbacks when we need defense is beyond me.

It's not like Buckhalter or Arrington is going to break the bank.

They're not. When we got a crew of Hillis, Young, Hill, and Torain all ready and willing.

He didnt want to leave and Indy didnt want him to leave. The extra 4 million added to the cap helped make it happen.

So glad he's finishing his career in Indy. He's a hall of famer for sure. People just dont know how good and important he is.

Stacy Andrews' big fat ass is now in Philly with his brother Shawn. So this pretty much assures Runyan is gone.

So begins the Bengals Fire Sale. At Least somebody make a play for that faggot Johnson...

Bucs just traded draft picks for Kellen Winslow