Burn Notice
 

So, Season 2 ended tonight, with a promise that Season 3 will start in June.

Where does the show go from where tonight's episode ended?

I loved the finale.

I dunno, but I've just started watching burn notice because of the overrun on my raw recordings. This guy is fucking fantastic. I am hunting and watching all of season 1 and what I haven't seen of season 2

Also


Michael: It's a little hard to trust someone when they've tried to kill you...FOUR times.

Victor: Four? That seems kind of high. *thinks* Oh, come on, you're counting earlier with the chair!

LOL, best quip of tonights show easily.

Bruce fucking Campbell

And shut up Diesel Mac, you are so fucking predictable.

BDC: I agree, but I'm wondering what kind of arangement would be palateable to Mike.

Fuck you BDC. Dickhead

Well, if the company comes to Mike, he'll have bargaining power. If he has to go to them, they hold all the cards.

I do say more. But I will continue to defend my favorites, so deal with it.

In fact, get the fuck out of my state. :mad:

nah j/k

Bullshit, it's mine.

Both of you get the fuck out of my state. :foc:

:(

Haha you guys are from missouri

I was born in California. I don't know what their excuses are.

Missouri > Most other states.

Hey me too. Apple Valley CA.

Fair enough, although the Chiefs do look like they might get better tho.

Less than an hour away from the start of the 3rd season. Anyone else ready?

Already got the DVR set.

Thoughts on the season premiere?

I think its a good move allowing to have multiple people he has to watch out for. Also I wonder if he Mike does end up joining an agency to try to get some people off his back.

Moon Bloodgood has signed on to chase Jeff Donovan this season. Looks are one thing, a reputation for killing shows is another. Hopefully she'll bring something to the table.

I was really wondering if they were going to have to move Mike's mom to a new house. I guess we'll get a few more insights about Mike's dad as the house gets renovated during the season.

Wouldn't it be something if it ended up being Mike's "dead" dad who was the person who burned him?

I have to bump this up just to say that Mike's cover as the junkie in this week's episode was hilarious.

Another great episode. I keep wondering if there'll ever be a bad one. Bruce Campbell keeps on proving how much "the man" he actually is.

I seriously wonder if anyone could ever make a movie starring Campbell and Chuck Norris. If so, it'll probably be scheduled to come out the day after the world ends in 2012.

I love that show

Great returning Baddie this week. How long until the lady cop finally either comes around to Michael's side, gives up, or gets that piece of incriminating evidence that sticks?

I'm guessing most of the season, though with my luck, the episode still on my DVR has her come around, just to spite me. I'm wondering specifically whether or not she ends up "Victored," Which seems likely if she joins up OR gets that big piece of evidence. Deadski.

Preview for next ep looked interesting. Not sure how it'll turn out since most CT eps tend to suck....Like most CTs.

Upset that we have to wait 2 weeks for the next ep. I don't NEED a marathon yet. Gimme NEW eps!

Am I the only one still watching? This half-season has been fairly OK, not anything earth-shattering. Yesterday's ep was the goods, the way Michael was able to kick the shit outta the sleazebag he was "befriending".

Can't believe there's only 2 more eps until the show breaks again...

Yea, I thought the most recent episode was good. I've really enjoyed this season.

So, season finale again.

Anyone?

Thought the ending was interesting.

It's on my DVR, will probably watch it tonight before bed. Pretty awesome season though.

When you're a spy and you need to quickly catch up on a series you didn't know had started up again, you will find the nearest available torrent and start a download. It's safe and you won't have to worry about anyone beating down your door while you prepare your pipe bombs.

It'll be interesting to see just where Michael has ended up. When that is figured out, the series could go a couple different directions. I'm actually as interested to see what happens to the supporting cast as Michael.

Holy crap. Awesome season finale.

Was going to start a new thread for tonight's season premiere, but decided to just revive this one instead. They're giving a marathon now, so let's relive some of the great moments before the after burner kicks in tonight at 9.

Also, I'm loving how this series has breathed an entire new life into the career of Bruce Campell, I think he deserves it.

This is a show, along with Chuck, which I keep meaning to check out, but for some reason, I never do.

I'm having to wait until the wife comes home from visiting her family to watch the season premiere and it's killing me. 3 more days to go.

Liked the biker subplot a lot more than the new "boss."

Alright, finally got around to seeing the new episode and I got to say, this show hasn't lost a beat. What intrigues me though is that this season seems like it's going to be centered on the psychological impact being a spy can have on a person. Now I can't say that for certain, but if this does seem to be case, it does pose a question:

Should a series that was originally promoted as 'hot summer action show' add this layer of emotional storytelling?

Once again, this is a question that came to mind from only seeing the first ep. of this new season, so it could all end up being moot. But if this is going to be an ongoing amendment to the series, I for one am looking forward too it. I think this addition of "realism" to the scenario could be just what this show needs to be fully complete.

I'm fine with the added level - it was a "hot summer action show" 3 seasons ago, and is now a split-season show with half of the eps debuting in the winter. As long as it keeps what made it special, it's going to need the extra development to keep going long-term.

It's always been a smarter-than-your-average-bear action show anyway.

Which is precisely why it's in its 4th season.

Indeed. And I love it for it. :D

Long as things keep exploding and people keep shooting, it'll qualify as a fun action series. If they can maintain that and deal with the side effects of being a spy, more power to them.

OK, someone please tell me there will be more episodes coming - the show is still too good to die now, but that last episode sure felt like it could have been the end.

The commercial at the end said the show will be back in the summer :o

Not the most reliable source, but hey, it's something.

Ok. I watched it on demand and that wasn't there, so I'm talked down off the ledge for now.

Getting antsy for this show to return. The "Fall of Sam Axe" movie was cute, but it kinda twisted the dagger a bit that "This isn't REALLY what you want to see."

I can't wait! One more hour to go.

Can't wait til I get a chance to see the episode that my wife taped for me.

Pretty good showing. Very curious to see where the story goes from here.

Yea, the show has kinda a different vibe now i guess. Kinda like it tbh, and hope they can cohesively hold the story together. I am starting to wonder how much longer the show can last though unless they inject a major new storyline outside of the 'burn' story, cuz it seems to me that one is starting to draw to a close.

I told my husband that since USA already signed for the 6th season, and with how this season looks to be heading, it wouldn't surprise me if this is the beginning of the end. I really don't think it would do the show justice if they tried to push for another season after 6.

And I just want to say, that Sam is totally doing his mom.

I just hope they don't do the whole

I was joking with my wife that this season is just going to be about him fixing his car. Mike, Sam, and Fee just go on dangerous missions and bring down bad guys in the proces of securing the parts he needs to fix his charger...

I've always wondered if they'd ever have Sam end up being bad. I thought it was a possibility until recently. They've really painted him as too much of a "good guy" for him to really be bad though.

I'm assuming that Mike will find out that someone was feeding him info.

Just my opionion but they could do where after he finds out and say the CIA welcomes him back to the organization, the CIA turns around and arrests Sam and Fiona. So Michael has the decision of staying with the CIA or getting Jesse to help him break them out and basically he is backed to being burned and on the run.


Just a way I think they could go with it to help keep it exciting

Two problems:

Where does this leave Madeline? With them being "on the run", they can't exactly keep going back to her each episode for "When Michael was younger" stories and bad cooking.

Seems too A-Team for my likes: "...escaped from a maximum security stockade to the Miami underground. Today, still wanted by the government, they survive as soldiers of fortune. If you have a problem, if noone else can help, and if you can find them maybe you can hire The Burn Team."

So,



I like it, thoughts?

One of my 3 must watch shows every week. Michael is the man.

Loved this weeks episode and how every time he gets closer he gets one step further away

This is probably the most well written and acted show on TV now. The only show I can think of better or equal quality is Breaking Bad. If they can maintain the action and keep advancing the story well, I see no reason this couldn't go 8-10 seasons....

Definitely have to disagree with 'well acted'. I mean, it's good I guess. I like the show. But the level of acting on Burn Notice doesn't even compare to that of a show of such high caliber as Breaking Bad. I mean, this just pales in comparison.

I have to disagree. Any show that can keep me interested while telling a good story is well acted. While BB is more slow and mythodical with their story telling, having more fast paced shows isn't a bad thing. The success of the show pretty much means millions agree with that analysis...

I think you mean it's well produced, not well acted.

I personally think it's well acted, written and produced. The writing of a show ultimately depends on how well the actors deliver the lines. Jeffrey Donovan, Bruce Campbell and Gabrielle Anwar do as well as any show on TV I've seen. They perfect convey whatever emotion the situation calls for. Thus the main reason I think Burn Notice is the second best show on TV now, following Breaking Bad.

^That. And no, the success of a show does not mean millions agree that the show is incredibly acted. Neither does keeping you interested. I find a lot of shows 'interesting', and some of them have good stories. Those reasons do not make a show well acted. Good acting makes a show well acted. The cheese factor of Burn Notice takes a bit of their acting cred away, IMO. Just can't be compared to the likes of Breaking Bad. Again, it pales in comparison and there's just no way you can deny that. Breaking Bad's acting is of such a higher class than Burn Notice that I don't know how anyone in their right mind could say that they're on par.

It has a high production value for a show on USA, and has decent acting. The story is pretty good, but not the best. For the type of show it is, I'd say it's one of the better ones on TV right now.

Some of their lines are just 'lol' cheesy. Can't take Burn Notice seriously half the time.

Would also put a lot of shows above Burn Notice. It probably wouldn't even break my top 5 of shows still currently airing.

Can't tell you how many Sam Axe lines are just completely ridiculous and 'fake'. Bruce Campbell is the man, don't get me wrong.. but lol come on. Can't believe this is even a real discussion.

I'd have to ask what your top 5 shows are then. While Burn Notice may not be as great as Breaking Bad, it is a great show. The story is used in a compelling way with the client of the week and burn notice dynamics. Unlike alot of shows on TV, the quality for Burn Notice remains consistent. I personally find the humor in the show to be a redeeming aspect. Definately don't think the lines are cheesy, as they make some of the not so interesting spy stuff more tolerable...

Again it all comes down to personal preference. IMO Burn Notice is the best show on TV other than Breaking Bad. Scrutinizing every small detail and not enjoying the show for what it is defeats the purpose of it. When you say a certain show is "the best", it ultimately means it's your view on what you perceive as the best. It's all subjective to each person, so what I think is the best doesn't mean it literally is.

So it's your favorite, not the best. Got it. And it's not really nitpicking.. it's just observing the facts of the show. The acting quality is simply not there. The actors are good, but as I said.. there is a level of cheese to it that, while it does not detract from the SHOW, it detracts from the quality of acting. Already said it is a good show for what it is. But it is just not 'high class' enough to compete with certain other shows.

My top 5? Of shows that are still airing (otherwise there would be a couple other shows at the top of this list) -

Breaking Bad
Game of Thrones
Dexter
Modern Family
Fringe (and yes, this is a 'favorite'. It's probably not going to win an Emmy any time soon, and I realize that)

Boardwalk Empire just narrowly missed my top 5, but that's not a bad thing. The other shows on that list are extremely high quality.

It's also terribly repetitive compared to shows that are more straight forward story telling. The episode-to-episode stories are typically the same formula over and over again while advancing the overlying story every couple episodes. The top few shows on my list are constantly changing, constantly evolving. Each episode -is- the story.

But I get that. That's why I said it's great 'for the type of show it is'.

I wish I could properly discuss this more comparitively with you, but I haven't see any of those shows except BB. So, I can't really comment in any informative way. Burn Notice does have a cheesy type quality with the jokes and so forth, but that's what makes it work for me. Having all that dull and boring spy expertise needs a balance. The problem then becomes not overusing the humor vs. the more dramatic scenes. That's one problem I have with Burn Notice. It probably could be taken more seriously if the dramatic acting was a more frequent occurance...

See, and there is the problem. You haven't seen enough TV to be able to adequately judge. I think if you saw a lot of quality TV you would have a whole new outlook on what TV shows can be. I think you would actually see it differently and while it wouldn't make you dislike Burn Notice (that's not the goal of this), it would give you a whole new repertoire of 'top shows' to enjoy.

You should download those shows, starting with Dexter. Also, those are only shows that are still airing. I feel LOST and Rome (HBO series) easily top my list.

Yeah, being able to see all the currently produced shows would give me more of a balanced look at quality. Kinda hard to properly compare the acting depth on TV if your viewing is limited to basic TV channels. It may not be the best show on TV, but definately on USA(Psych is pretty close though).

Back on topic:

Based on the increased mentions during this season, does anyone think that



Or is that too much of a red herring?

I don't think it's that much far fetched to be honest, but what do you do once you arrive at that point park?

After 4 seasons the whole essence of the show hasn't really changed. They're still doing the good deeds while Michael is on a mission to find out who burned him/go after who burned him/go after who killed the people who burned him.

I honestly don't know, but with the reports that the show will run for this and one more season and then be done, I can see that being the big payoff in the end.


Also, does anyone else think that they're trying to force a love triangle with Mike's new handler?

I don't think they are going to "force" anything but the look that Fiona had at the end of the last episode makes me think something is going on with her and maybe she's gonna step away from Mike and the more Pierce and Mike work together they might get closer.

My mistake was trusting you.

Good cliffhanger.