The Bret Hart appreciation thread
 

This isn't about who was right in November '97, or about his book, or who he is away from the ring. This isn't about if he's better than Shawn Michaels or Ric Flair. It's just about the Hitman, and talking about how awesome he was.

I've been watching some Hitman stuff on Youtube recently, he was really unbelievable. Even on the mic. I just saw how he reunited with Davey Boy and Owen in 1997, great stuff.

His in ring style was intense, it was even better than a guy like Benoit's whose style was too over the top. Bret was hard and physical, but he didn't hurt guys. When you watched him wrestle, it was ALMOST realistic.

The guy only had lke 5 or 6 moves in his repertoire but hit them perfectly, at the right time. His punches were beautiful, he didn't have a bob holly like dropkick but it was always done in the right way at the right time. The double elbow off the top, awesome.

I'd also love he he'd set up the russian leg sweep, sending the guy into the rope, punchin the stomach, and then so naturally hit the legsweep.

Favourite Bret feud has to be either with Austin or Owen, but he had a few great ones. Best match was probably with Owen at Mania 10.

Also, if you get the chance, look for Steamboat vs. Hart on youtube. It's from 1985 or 86 I think, great match.

Talk about the Hitman here!

I love the 1993 King of the Ring. 3 awesome matches with 3 very different wrestlers with very different sing styles.

Bret led the WWE into its more prosperous era. He was good for that.

Thanks Bret, for being a stuck-up dick. :y:

I'm going to assume this thread is not Kliq approved?

Speaking of which, where is that Hart loving IC? A pro-Bret thread without IC is like a day without sunshine, or a thread about some absurd armchair booking that will revive the industry and find a cure for cancer without Noid.

It is.

It's the Bret Hart Sucks Appreciation Thread. CBN just forgot a word.

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Untitled (How could this happen to me?) - Simple plan

So should I post a "Not this shit again" picture, or a guy beating a dead horse?

Seriously. Bret's my favorite wrestler of all-time right there beside Pillman.

From the Hart Foundation to WCW, he was always my favorite. Peronally, I never rooted for a wrestler for a long period like I rooted for Bret. Even with Pillman, I really didn't like him until he was with Austin. I was a die hard Bret fan for over 10 years. My favorite period in wrestling was 1997 WWF with the Hart Foundation. Bret was at the top of his game in that year from his matches to his promos. I'll admit, Bret was average on the mic when he was a babyface. Very simple, not a lot of variation. But he cut some of the most memorable promos during that USA/Canada angle. The one standing out the most was the speech where he officially turned heel.

Anyway, great worker, so many great matches inside the ring.

Live it up 450, post both.

lol you guys don't need to be douches :p

I don't come and ruin your fun when you start projecting your love for tranny porn.

.............Hanso isn't even in this thread.

He's not even remotely connected to the Kliq.

Christ CBN, get your shit straight.

Bret sucks, by the way.

I hear you. I loved him early-mid 90s. He'd work well with anyone, even Diesel.

He was one of those guys that everything he did counted, he'd have you on the edge of your seat hoping he would win.

You are welcome to think that. Noone is going to give you a hard time for thinking that. Each to his own.

However, there is no need to be a clown, which you are being. :)

You don't know me very well, do you?

Bret Hart is a living legend who had done it all.

His promos while not being flashy were interesting because he made them come off like a shoot many a time. He forced you to become invested in his segments and feuds, because he was savvy as all get out.

His matches, well nobody has managed to get more out of guys then Bret has.

I'll leave some soap for others to wash his balls with, but for now this thred should be stickied so that people can come in here and appreciate the greatest wrestler of all time.

Don't believe I care to. You seem like quite a douchebag.


Don't worry though, I'm sure everyone's paying attention to you.

Bret was one of the worst true main eventers on the mic ever. Stop with the blind markism.

Amen brother.

This thread will be derailed by tomorrow. Mark my word.

And somehow... my life will go on.

:D

But mine won't... MINE WON'T!

Bret was "ok".

:foc:

Self markism aside, Bret had some great matches in the 90's. Like I said, KOTR 1993 will always stand out for me because of how awesome it was that Bret was able to pull off 3 completely different matches in one night. Gotta give credit to Hall, Hennig and Bam Bam though, all 4 guys brought their A game.

Top 10 Bret Hart Matches

1. The Undertaker (c) v. Bret Hart (With Special Referee: Shawn Michaels for the WWF World Heavyweight Championship, WWF Summer Slam 1997)
2. Bret Hart (c) v. Owen Hart (Cage Match for the WWF World Heavyweight Championship, WWF SummerSlam 1994)
3. Bret Hart (c) v. Shawn Michaels (60 Minute Iron Man Match for the WWF World Heavyweight Championship, WWF Wrestlemania XII)
4. Bret Hart v. Steve Austin (WWF Survivor Series 1996)
5. Bret Hart (c) v. The British Bulldog (for the WWF World Heavyweight Championship, WWF In Your House 5: Season’s Beatings)
6. Bret Hart v. Mr. Perfect (King of the Ring Semi-Final Match, WWF King of the Ring 1993)
7. Bret Hart v. Owen Hart (WWF Wrestlemania X)
8. Bret Hart v. Steve Austin (No Holds Barred Submission Match with Special Referee: Ken Shamrock, WWF Wrestlemania 13)
9. Mr. Perfect (c) v. Bret Hart (for the WWF Intercontinental Championship, WWF Summer Slam 1991)
10. Diesel (c) v. Bret Hart (No Disqualification Match for the WWF World Heavyweight Championship, WWF Survivor Series 1995)

Bret's life sure as hell didn't. He has made a lifestyle from bitching about one match for 10 years.

I'll give him all due credit. His five moves of doom were decent, and his run as the underdog was nice, but let's face facts- Everyone that HBK steps in the ring with gets overshadowed by HBK in the long run.

Um...

We're you trying to put me in my place there? Cause I was just making a joke neither confirming nor denying how good Bret Hart was.

I'm a Bret Hart mark to lengths unseen. I would probably fellatiate him given the chance.

I remember seeing him fight Yokozuna at Maple Leaf Gardens. I remember crying at 5 years old watching him on scrambled t.v. lose to Davey Boy at Wembley. Owen turning on him at the rumble and then him tying luger, and the crown pwning luger and cheering for Bret.

I'm super biased, I don't care. Everyone has that one guy they stick with through thick and thin. Bret is my boy.

lol you can have anyone of my wrestling toys... except Bret Hart....noone messes with the Hitman... :p

yeah that's cool... but it has nothing to do with this thread.

Truly one of the all time greats.

Sure it does. The latter part of his public career is nothing but bitching about one event.

I'd appreciate it if you wouldn't sweep something like that under the rug.

Yep, pretty sure I made it clear ;)

Every Bret thread ever made is full of people saying this exact same thing. You can't let ONE thread slide?

Nope, because it's THE moment that defines him as a wrestler.

That cannot be denied, even by the most hardcore Bret mark.

Was he a good wrestler? Sure, in the ring he was great. But he loses all credibility with that one incident.

Not really. I could get into it, but you're clearly a twat, so just keep on trying to get a reaction out of people :)

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What is the first thing 90% of fans are going to remember (assuming they were watching at the time) if you mention Bret Hart? The Iron Man Match? They associate that with Michaels. Bret/Austin? Austin.

It's the screwjob.

I'm not a twat, I just bring the truth.

That's your opinion, but you're crazy. I'm not even the biggest Bret Hart fan.

Yeah, but you're failing to realize that this is not what the thread is about.

I'm not saying, "Is Bret Hart the greatest wrestler of all time?" Or "was Bret right?" or "Is Bret bitter"

I'm talking about his in ring work.

So in short, shut the fuck up.

Or you know... bring the truth because you are so edgey and cool.

Do I seem to be getting to you?

I may not ruin your day, but I've pissed you off enough to tell me to "shut the fuck up". :D

In the immortal words of Cookie Monster, "OM NOM NOM!"

Yeah I am so angry right now I want to throw my computer against the wall. You are an unstoppable force. You rule the wrestling forum, all hail you.

You must be thrilled.

Derail some more, CBN. Prove me right.

This reminds me of the time Jerry Lawler feuded with Bret Hart over who was the real King.

And then Bret had a pretty stellar match with heel doink, and Jerry cracked him with the crutch, and Bret and Jerry had a match. And then Hitman locked him in the sharpshooter for 10 minutes and broke his leg, FUCK that was badass :cool:

That feud was horrible.

Bret Hart was "ok" at everything...unless he was being carried by Shawn Michaels.

Fuck and Lawler would always drop hilarious chirps on the Hart family, namely Stu and Helen and about how ugly and old they were. And McMahon would be like "Oh stop"

The feud went on for years too because of Lawler's legal troubles. But midway through it did lead to the epic Bret/Owen feud...

GOOD TIMES

Summerslam 93, Dale

He was good in the ring, terrible on the mic. Actually, his character was pretty shitty, too.

Does that even out to "ok"?

That is so ridiculous, even coming from you.

Yes, and HBK who has given the same promo for 10 years is great.

:drool:

At least he hasn't shot about Montreal every five minutes for the past 12 years.

Shawn Michaels has put on classics with everyone he has stepped foot in the ring with, and all Bret can claim is "I did my job and didn't hurt them!" or "Europeans liked me because I am a tool, too!" The irony is the one time Bret didn't want to do his job, Vince McMahon and Shawn Michaels made him.

lol I knew this was gonna turn into HBM vs Bret

Canadians liked him because, let's face it, they don't have much to like.

Even Jericho was born American.

All they have left is Maple Syrup and Colin Mochrie, and I claim him for the US.

That is a retarded statement.

You're right.

They only have one thing to like.

Canucks have maple syrup and Hockey Night in Canada.

Shawn Michaels is a phenomenal worker. So is Bret Hart.

Both were awesome at what they did. They wouldn't have been who they were without one another.

I actually enjoy watching their matches from the early 90s. Midcard Shawn Michaels was fun to watch. The cocky upstart heel vs. the wiley veteran. It was good shit.

I will admit that I like hockey. GO STARS!!!

Don't forget better beer.

Coming from a Texan, that's fucking rich.

That was all because of their hatred toward each other, directly because Michaels was/is a dick.

The point logical people try to make is that Shawn Michaels is superior.

http://www.derok.net/derek3/images/c...ret%20hart.jpg

Bret really looked awesome holding the gold. Always gave the title credibility.

Let me guess, all I have are hats, horses, and my ranch?

If you are trying to make a crash about Bush, not all Texans support Bush. Bush isn't a Texan anyway, as he was born and raised in Connecticut and only came to Texas once his family found their way into the oil boom.

Well we can talk about it after you remove Shawn's wang from your mouth ;)

Shawn Michaels is boring, and has been since his return pretty much. I have to watch something from 97 to remember why I used to like the man, now he's just a jesus freak who wrestles.

Jenna Jameson holding a dick gives it credibility, doesn't make it worth it.

OH YEAH Ric Flair vs. Bret Hart was awesome. I saw the match on youtube... the crowd went buckshit when Bret won. Unfucking real.

He constantly puts on the best matches on the card.

FFS, to overlook Jericho/Michaels is just stupid. Not to mention Angle/Michaels.

BTW, LOL at CBN trying to salvage the thread.

You are willingly blind if you think he has been boring since 2002, and what does his religion have to do with anything? How dare he find something in his real life to help him overcome his demons and become a better person. How dare he try to help spread the word on the thing that brought him back from being another drug-riddled wrestling tragedy.

How about that you guys are among the lowest in the US in eduaction, or how you house the most prisoners per capita.

I don't know how anyone could call either guy bad. I've been watching both of their shit. Shawn Micahels is unreal, still is... though I cant' deal with how hokey he is these days, but in the ring he still brings the pain.

Shawn vs. Bulldog from 1992 SME was SICK. I actually am gonna watch Shawn vs. Owen

(I've been watching a lot of old school matches)

Bret and Shawn were great in their own right. If only they didn't hate one another with a firey passion. Well I think Bret hates him more now, but sometimes you don't like people.

And sometimes you hold grudges for years over a fake title in a fake sport.

I put too much faith in the other posters. They got sucked right in.

"OMG SHAWN SUX" "NO BRET SUX" "YEAH WELL TEXAS SUX" "YEAH WELL CANADA SUX"

lol, a bunch of 3 year olds.

I will admit he's had bright spots, and some good programs since his return, but overall he's not that entertaining anymore.

I mean Bret constantly put on the best matches, and you still laud him as boring.

Says the man who feeds the trolls.

I think there's more to the hate than just the screwjob.

I was just telling you, you were acting like a douche. And you were.

But at least I've kept mostly on topic.

How often do you even watch the product anymore? Honestly?

Score one for da bad guy!

LOL

Guys, stop being such huge fucking losers. Jesus.

We also have the 2nd highest population of the states (what is California's education stats?) and yes we lock up pieces of shit who commit crimes instead of wiping their ass and hoping they don't do something wrong again.

In the last 4 months or so, not as often, I'll catch a bit of each show usually, if it's interesting, or I have nothing to do I'll watch it, but I can't say I make it a point to watch it every week, it's just not that good to warrant it. But up until then, I watched on a weekly basis pretty much.

LOL what? He's bitched and moaned about a standard in the business, doing the job on the way out.

Dude, you guys give people 2 years for a joint.