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Jeritron 03-28-2009 03:04 PM

Better Wrestler #68
 
Eddie moves onto the 3rd round after a clear victory over Arn Anderson. Will he be able to slither past his next opponent?





VS


Jake "The Snake" Roberts


<SELECT><OPTION selected>Better Wrestler History<OPTION>#1.RVD vs CM Punk (34-19)</OPTION><OPTION>#2.RVD vs Santino Marella (36-4)</OPTION><OPTION>#3.RVD vs "Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig (15-23)</OPTION><OPTION>#4."Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig vs Tully Blanchard (30-5)</OPTION><OPTION>#5."Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig vs Chris Jericho (15-23)</OPTION><OPTION>#6.Chris Jericho vs Brock Lesnar (34-10)</OPTION><OPTION>#7.Chris Jericho vs William Regal (38-14)</OPTION><OPTION>#8.Chris Jericho vs Eddie Guerrero (21-23)</OPTION><OPTION>#9.Eddie Guerrero vs Ricky "The Dragon" Steamboat (26-7)</OPTION><OPTION>#10.Eddie Geurrero vs "Macho Man" Randy Savage (26-19)</OPTION><OPTION>#11.Eddie Guerrero vs Diamond Dallas Page (39-8)</OPTION><OPTION>#12.Eddie Guerrero vs "Stone Cold" Steve Austin(19-28)</OPTION><OPTION>#13."Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Chris Benoit (32-13)</OPTION><OPTION>#14."Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Jake "The Snake" Roberts (29-10)</OPTION><OPTION>#15."Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Sting (36-16)</OPTION><OPTION>#16."Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Bret "The Hitman" Hart (32-31)</OPTION><OPTION>#17.Hulk Hogan vs John Cena (15-24)<OPTION>#18.John Cena vs Lex Luger (32-6)<OPTION>#19.John Cena vs Ultimate Warrior (29-18)</OPTION><OPTION>#20.John Cena vs Dean Malenko (9-40)</OPTION><OPTION>#21.Dean Malenko vs Billy Kidman (31-7)</OPTION><OPTION>#22.Dean Malenko vs Ultimo Dragon (22-15)</OPTION><OPTION>#23.Dean Malenko vs Taz (15-17)</OPTION><OPTION>#24.Taz vs Sabu (38-2)</OPTION><OPTION>#25.Taz vs Jeff Hardy (25-16)</OPTION><OPTION>#26.Taz vs Bam Bam Bigelow (26-12)</OPTION><OPTION>#27.Taz vs Triple H (24-22)</OPTION>><OPTION>#28.Edge vs Christian Cage (22-23)<OPTION>#29.Christian Cage vs Raven (23-22)</OPTION><OPTION>#30.Christian vs Matt Hardy (22-19)</OPTION><OPTION>#31.Christian vs Ted Dibiase (24-25)</OPTION><OPTION>#32.Ted Dibiase vs "Rowdy" Roddy Piper (16-19)</OPTION><OPTION>#33."Rowdy" Roddy Piper vs "The British Bulldog" Davey Boy Smith (25-19)</OPTION><OPTION>#34."Rowdy" Roddy Piper vs Bob Backlund (26-6)</OPTION><OPTION>#35."Rowdy" Roddy Piper vs The Dynamite Kid (26-13)</OPTION><OPTION>#36."Rowdy Roddy Piper vs Ric Flair (16-19)</OPTION><OPTION>#37.Ric Flair vs Bret "The Hitman" Hart (19-17)</OPTION><OPTION>#38.Ric Flair vs Andre "The Giant" (28-5)</OPTION><OPTION>#39.Ric Flair vs Triple H (26-11)</OPTION><OPTION>#40.Ric Flair vs Shawn Michaels (20-26)</OPTION><OPTION>#41.Shawn Michaels vs Jushin "Thunder" Lyger (26-15)</OPTION><OPTION>#42.Shawn Michaels vs Perry Saturn (36-12)<OPTION>#43.Shawn Michaels vs The Undertaker (29-11)</OPTION><OPTION>#44.Shawn Michaels vs The Rock (28-30)</OPTION><OPTION>#45.The Rock vs Trish Stratus (21-16)</OPTION><OPTION>#46.The Rock vs Lance Storm (22-19)</OPTION><OPTION>#47.The Rock vs Owen Hart (18-12)</OPTION><OPTION>#48.The Rock vs Kurt Angle (5-24)</OPTION><OPTION>#49.Kurt Angle vs Ken Shamrock (36-5)</OPTION><OPTION>#50.Kurt Angle vs Rob Van Dam (23-13)</OPTION><OPTION>#51.Kurt Angle vs "King Kong" Bruiser Brody (20-10)</OPTION><OPTION>#52.Kurt Angle vs Mick Foley (31-6)</OPTION><OPTION>#53.John Morrison vs Braden Walker (36-11)</OPTION><OPTION>#54.John Morrison vs Kofi Kingston (34-5)</OPTION><OPTION>#55.John Morrison vs CM Punk (14-28)</OPTION><OPTION>#56.CM Punk vs Tajiri (28-20)</OPTION><OPTION>#57.CM Punk vs Booker T (24-23)</OPTION><OPTION>#58.CM Punk vs Samoa Joe (53-4)</OPTION><OPTION>#59.CM Punk vs "Macho Man" Randy Savage (19-36)</OPTION><OPTION>#60."Macho Man" Randy Savage vs "Adorable" Adrian Adonis (47-2)</OPTION><OPTION>#61."Macho Man" Randy Savage vs Goldberg (49-4)</OPTION><OPTION>#62."Macho Man" Randy Savage vs "Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig (31-38)</OPTION><OPTION>#63."Mr.Perfect" Curt Hennig vs "Diamond" Dallas Page (51-17)</OPTION><OPTION>#64."Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig vs William Regal (37-18)</OPTION><OPTION>#65."Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig vs Brock Lesnar (48-4)</OPTION><OPTION>#66."Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig vs Eddie Guerrero (39-40)</OPTION><OPTION>#67. Eddie Guerrero vs Arn Anderson (33-22)</OPTION></SELECT>

<SELECT><OPTION selected>Better Wrestler Hall of Fame</OPTION><OPTION>"Stone Cold" Steve Austin</OPTION><OPTION>Taz</OPTION><OPTION>Kurt Angle</OPTION></SELECT>


Tres dios.

thedamndest 03-28-2009 03:45 PM

Lying, cheating, stealing, vs. trust me.

Nark Order 03-28-2009 03:47 PM

Eddie vs Randy the Ram?? interesting.

Jeritron 03-28-2009 04:38 PM

bumpin this for now

Anybody Thrilla 03-28-2009 05:05 PM

Jake Roberts was just a feud maker. Everything he was involved in instantly became interesting. He worked well as a heel or a face (as did Eddie, I suppose)...but maybe it's just the old school in me that had no problem voting for Jake Roberts here.

Londoner 03-28-2009 05:53 PM

Eddie wins easily for me. Was always one of my favourites, can't find a single fault with him.

Good Ol JG 03-28-2009 06:09 PM

No question Eddie had a greater career, but I'm an admitted Jake mark so he gets my vote. When you talk about psychology and mic work Jake goes at or near the top of the list. And his work in the ring was also superb, I think people forget that.

mike adamle 03-28-2009 06:14 PM

i'm just not and eddie mark, i know he was great and everything, but i just never got really excited about him or anything, jake gets it

The Optimist 03-28-2009 06:16 PM

Jake doesn't come close. There's no areas that Eddie is worse than Jake in that pertain to wrestling even loosely.

CSL 03-28-2009 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Optimist (Post 2479671)
Jake doesn't come close. There's no areas that Eddie is worse than Jake in that pertain to wrestling even loosely.

If you say so buddy

Jake

Gerard 03-28-2009 06:24 PM

Jake

The Optimist 03-28-2009 06:26 PM

Someone get some really great Jake Roberts videos in here. Is that legal? Or do we have to give Eddie an equal number of videos? Because I want to see how wrong I was/am.

Jeritron 03-28-2009 06:28 PM

You can post or discuss whatever you want as long as it's on the topic of the matchup, or one of the two wrestlers in question.

Supreme Olajuwon 03-28-2009 06:35 PM

Jake gets my vote. Probably my favorite heel of all time.

Jeritron 03-28-2009 06:36 PM

Interesting stuff.

Stealth-Icon 03-28-2009 06:52 PM

Best WWF wrestler never to hold a title. Jake

Kick Cenas Face 03-28-2009 08:25 PM

One of the best examples of wasted potnetial. But man could he talk some shit and back it up. DDT!!!!! DDT!!!!!! Jake all the way I bet this one will be neck and neck.

Loose Cannon 03-28-2009 08:53 PM

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That's like my top 3 favorite promos ever


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Juan 03-28-2009 08:55 PM

Jake the fuckin Snake. A staple in the WWF in the early 90's

Ruien 03-28-2009 09:15 PM

Voted for Eddie, but I hope Jake wins. But ya, Eddie carried Smackdown!, Jake never had to carry anything nor could he.

Arashi Kage 03-28-2009 10:46 PM

Uncle Eddie was great, but Jake wins this based on promo / mic work alone.

Gotta love the good old days. :y:

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Krimzon7 03-28-2009 10:54 PM

Eddie over the jobber in this one...

Juan 03-29-2009 02:21 AM

all tied up baby

Destor 03-29-2009 03:23 AM

Hot match, brilliant match Jerry

Kick Cenas Face 03-29-2009 03:41 AM

Eddie couldn't play mind games like Jake could though...... His psychology in the ring was just awesome.

Exyle 03-29-2009 03:46 AM

I've always been of the opinion that Jake is (was) one of the greatest minds in the business. His promos are second to none, and when he hit the DDT, everyone knew it meant something.

I could go off on a tangent about how the DDT is overused in the modern era, but that's another discussion.

Anybody Thrilla 03-29-2009 03:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ruien (Post 2479787)
Voted for Eddie, but I hope Jake wins. But ya, Eddie carried Smackdown!, Jake never had to carry anything nor could he.

Now what kind of stupid fucking logic is this?

Ruien 03-29-2009 05:50 AM

The mark in me wants Jake to win, but I feel like Eddie was the better wrestler. Stupid logic? Naw, maybe you should ask politely before insulting.

ron the dial 03-29-2009 01:15 PM

jake the snake, no question. he was one of the first heels that i liked growing up. something about the presence that he brought to the screen made you pay attention. he demanded it. no knock to eddie here, but jake roberts is the fucking man, no doubt.

Anybody Thrilla 03-29-2009 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ruien (Post 2480137)
The mark in me wants Jake to win, but I feel like Eddie was the better wrestler. Stupid logic? Naw, maybe you should ask politely before insulting.

Logic has nothing to do with these threads. If you want Jake to win, vote for Jake. It doesn't get much more simple than that. There would be absolutely no consequences for you voting for Jake.

Innovator 03-29-2009 02:26 PM

Probably one of the toughest ones, slightly went with Eddie

Rammsteinmad 03-29-2009 02:28 PM

Eddie Guerrero.

Never really cared for Jake 'The Snake' Roberts. Just an interesting note that I've trained with Jake and wrestled on the same show as him before BUUUUUUUT I think by now most indy wrestlers have.

Also, Eddie Guerrero is just a lot better and more fun to watch IMO.

Innovator 03-29-2009 03:08 PM

I loved both guys. Jake was THE guy who started the intense quiet promos. Don't have to yell to get his point across, and it drew you in. Fuck, he gave us the DDT.

But there is something about Eddie that made me vote for him.

The Gold Standard 03-29-2009 04:20 PM

Never a big fan of Jake, so Eddie gets my vote

WestNZ 03-29-2009 05:33 PM

in a vote like thiis, i got to go with the classics, Jake by a long way

Ruien 03-29-2009 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 2480200)
Logic has nothing to do with these threads. If you want Jake to win, vote for Jake. It doesn't get much more simple than that. There would be absolutely no consequences for you voting for Jake.

So your telling me how to play a game with no rules? If I think someone is the better wrestler, I will vote for them. You play your way, I will play mine.

Destor 03-29-2009 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 2480200)
Logic has nothing to do with these threads. If you want Jake to win, vote for Jake. It doesn't get much more simple than that. There would be absolutely no consequences for you voting for Jake.

Nah, the idea is too vote for who you think is better, while it's acceptable to vote for markish reasons it isn't the idea.

Theo Dious 03-29-2009 07:37 PM

I'd vote for Jake out of spite, but the fact is I don't have to. Jake was one of the best (if not THE best) psychological workers of his time. I really feel like he was further up the ladder in the way he worked than Eddie was in the way he worked.

Also, he's definitely a far better drunk and druggie than Eddie was... since, you know... still alive an all.

Theo Dious 03-29-2009 07:39 PM

Also, Jake was one of the first guys to successfully work heelishly while still solidly in a face role.

Londoner 03-29-2009 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rammsteinmad (Post 2480240)
Also, Eddie Guerrero is just a lot better and more fun to watch IMO.

:y:

Destor 03-30-2009 03:23 AM

28-27 Eddy, wow.

Destor 03-30-2009 05:34 AM

Tied up, damn.

Krimzon7 03-30-2009 05:58 AM

who saw this coming? I mean there's a ton of socks, er people who like Roberts/hate Guerrero

AJHayes 03-30-2009 12:14 PM

Eddie was better in the ring, but they were just about equal on the mic. This time I'm going with Guerrero.

Kane86 03-30-2009 01:02 PM

Could Jake pull an upset?

The Mackem 03-30-2009 02:00 PM

Jake shades it for me. I tend to think him of him as the definitive wrestler when talking about psychology in and out of the ring. Looking back you could say he was maybe slightly ahead of his time. Eddie not far off in this match up but I'd just consider Jake slightly more deserving.

Destor 03-30-2009 02:08 PM

31-31. Mother fucker

Kane86 03-30-2009 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destor (Post 2480980)
31-31. Mother fucker


Destor I take back what I said about your booking skills. I wish we could do this with like computer like they did with Marciano and Ali. That would be definitely cool.

Anybody Thrilla 03-30-2009 06:09 PM

Where can I find two Jake Roberts supporters?

Krimzon7 03-30-2009 06:22 PM

wow

Kane86 03-30-2009 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 2481201)
Where can I find two Jake Roberts supporters?

You won't there are way to many Eddie marks on here that are afraind to vote against there lord and savior

Ruien 03-30-2009 06:26 PM

How much time is left?

Calamondin 03-30-2009 11:08 PM

I've never hated a wrestler quite like I have Jake "The Snake" Roberts. I loved Eddie, but I can say that about a lot of guys. I can't say I hated another heel nearly as much as I hated "The Snake." He gets my vote.. probably for making me spaz out as a kid.

CSL 03-30-2009 11:13 PM

34-32 SUP

CSL 03-31-2009 12:40 AM

lol out comes the Sock of Straw

El Fangel 03-31-2009 12:53 AM

I thought this was over today. Close matchup.

Destor 03-31-2009 03:28 AM

still tied wow

Kane86 03-31-2009 04:27 AM

He is ahead by one this is going to get intense.

Tazz Dan 03-31-2009 05:23 AM

I just voted Jake. Put him up 36-35.........

CSL 03-31-2009 05:26 AM

So does Perfect go in if Jake wins?

CSL 03-31-2009 05:27 AM

:shifty:

Rollerskategirl 03-31-2009 08:51 AM

Eddie. Only seen one Jake match. It was at WM against Rick Martel, blindfold match.

Outsider 03-31-2009 09:12 AM

Just voted. Now 37-36 to Eddie with the poll closing tonight. Shock.

Jeritron 03-31-2009 03:29 PM

Eddie wins.

Krimzon7 03-31-2009 04:20 PM

second one point victory for Eddie. These are getting too close to call!

CSL 03-31-2009 04:21 PM

Oh gay off

Nark Order 03-31-2009 04:23 PM

yeah

Nark Order 03-31-2009 04:24 PM

I'd say the most pivotal vote was that of the Strawman.

Londoner 03-31-2009 04:26 PM

:cool:

Nark Order 03-31-2009 04:50 PM

Jake, your time is running out.


CSL 03-31-2009 05:15 PM

lol 'Fat Kapoutman'

Kane86 03-31-2009 05:21 PM

By one point again goddammit

Triple A 03-31-2009 10:01 PM

The only sock that voted is Strawman btw. Every other vote is legit.

Just FYI.

Jeritron 03-31-2009 10:02 PM

Hmm

Xero 03-31-2009 10:04 PM

That makes this a tie.

:shifty:

Nark Order 03-31-2009 11:12 PM

We've allowed sock voting in the past. ARE WE MAKING UP RULES HERE NOW?!

Loose Cannon 04-01-2009 12:09 AM

That vote does not count. sorry

Loose Cannon 04-01-2009 12:12 AM

wait wait, let's get Bret Hart's opinion on this catastrophe

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Loose Cannon 04-01-2009 12:14 AM

yikes, I think we really need a recount here

Kane86 04-01-2009 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loose Cannon (Post 2483490)
wait wait, let's get Bret Hart's opinion on this catastrophe

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LOL!!!!

That is great

Arashi Kage 04-01-2009 12:47 AM

I agree with Bret on this one, it's a conspiracy! Jake won, we all know it! :y:

Uncle Eddie can go feud with Chavo and Pepe.

The Mackem 04-01-2009 03:47 AM

Who is Strawman?

Destor 04-01-2009 03:48 AM

Sock...I know who's but I wont say at this time.

The Mackem 04-01-2009 03:48 AM

Must be Narc, seriously ffs, what a waste of time.

Nark Order 04-01-2009 03:50 AM

EDDIE STEALS VICTORY WITH THE AIDE OF THE STRAWMAN!

The Mackem 04-01-2009 03:56 AM

If I ever see Strawman, I will DDT him and then throw him into a pit of snakes. Cock.

Nark Order 04-01-2009 04:10 AM

Well, I hear that the Strawman is good friends with KK so I'd take it up with him if you want to get to the Strawman.

The Mackem 04-01-2009 04:25 AM

Are you saying that this is the end of Better Wrestler?

Triple A 04-01-2009 04:30 AM

I believe Strawman's vote should be stricken from the record forever and this should be resolved via some sort of internet coin flip.

Triple A 04-01-2009 04:31 AM

Maybe the vote of a former TPWW legend (stima34) should resolve this.

Destor 04-01-2009 04:59 AM

Strawman is def not the only sock who voted in there. SO WHATEVER NARC.

Fabien Barthez 04-01-2009 06:47 AM

Fuck, I read the thread but forgot to vote for Jake. If some sad wankers really are voting twice, then it is a big shame to everyone who gives a paragraph to explain themselves. What a cunt.

Jeritron 04-01-2009 11:21 AM

In the event of a tie, the defending champion advances anyways

Kane86 04-01-2009 01:29 PM

Who is next Destor?

Jeritron 04-01-2009 01:47 PM

Why don't you ask me?

CSL 04-01-2009 02:07 PM

MR. PERFECT

Destor 04-01-2009 02:48 PM

Yeah Jerry is running this round.

Kane86 04-01-2009 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeritron (Post 2483945)
Why don't you ask me?

Well Jeri who is next

Jeritron 04-01-2009 04:00 PM

Not telling.

Kane86 04-01-2009 04:01 PM

Ok


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