Rugby 2009-2010 Thread
 

So given we don't have a rugby thread here, we can use this thread to discuss all rugby. Much like the Americans have with their threads.

So, as far as Southern hemisphere rugby goes. We're about to come into the second to final week of super 14. If you miss the Hurricanes Chiefs game, you're a mug. Chiefs are 3rd and Hurricanes are 1st on the super 14 table. But besides that, it's been such a close competition that at least 6 sides are still in contention, including the defending champions the crusaders, and the original competition leaders the sharks, along with South Africa's traditionally strong side, the bulls.

Today is a great day to post this thread.

As far as NH rugby goes, I saw a kick-off in finals rugby, which disgusted me. Can the NH save itself from my opinion with some input from Teem Sheep, or another knowledgeable rugby fan from the NH?

The Cardiff vs Leicester semi final on Sunday was amazing. Leicester up 26-12, pretty much controlling the game, then in the space of a couple of minutes, Cardiff score 2 converted tries in the corner, and sends the game to extra time and then the place kick shoot out which was absolutely gutting for Martin Williams and Cardiff. But hey, you've gotta decide a winner somehow. That thing probably won't happen again for another 10+ years so they're not going to change the rules on it.

Looking forward to the Lions tour now. Don't know what to expect really.

Golden point extra time works for me. Or just extra time, it's what they've decided World Cups with.
Yeah the Lions tour should be interesting, I can't see the Lions coming through with it though. I think their backs are a bit weak. O'Driscoll and Williams can't carry the lot of them.

Mind you, the South Africans are old, and their coach is shit. So who knows.

They did go to extra time for 20 minutes but still no team scored. I agree it's a bit silly when you've got forwards kicking, and flankers missing a penalty to mess it up for the team. But then again a golden point extra time could go on forever, with both teams not having the bollocks to go forward.

I think the Lions will lose 2-1. You just don't know though really, they could gel straight away and be magnificent or just be and absolute flop. New Zealand 2005 was just outstanding :shifty:

Tom Shanklin is now a doubt for the tour so that's a big blow.

Final week of the super 14, with 7 sides still in the running for the semis!
Bulls are top of the table, Chiefs second, followed by the Hurricanes and Crusaders. Bloody amazing the Crusaders have been able to fight back like this after their terrible start to the season, and losing so many players.
Big games this weekend, I'll def be watching the Chiefs/Brumbies, Crusaders/Blues, Reds/Hurricanes, Highlanders/Force. Bulls/Sharks is a HUGE one as well.

WEEK 14
85.Friday 15 May Chiefs v Brumbies Hamilton 19:35
86. Friday 15 May Lions v Waratahs Johannesburg 19:10
87. Saturday 16 May Blues v Crusaders Auckland 19:35
88. Saturday 16 May Reds v Hurricanes Brisbane 19:40
89. Saturday 16 May W Force v Highlanders Perth 19:45
90. Saturday 16 May Cheetahs v Stormers Bloemfontein 16:00
91. Saturday 16 May Sharks v Bulls Durban 18:05

this thread is primed for success.

Super 14 semi finals have been decided after an exciting weekend of rugby, with a lot games being decided in the final moments.

Chiefs are playing Hurricanes in Hamilton
Bulls are playing Crusaders in Pretoria

I think the Chiefs will pick up another victory over the Canes, but who really knows with either side.
If anyone is going to beat the Bulls, it's the Crusaders, but I don't think they have the firepower this season.

Just like the Rams.

In contract news.

WILKINSON SIGNS FOR TOULON

England flyhalf Jonny Wilkinson has joined Toulon from the Newcastle Falcons, the French club said on its website.
Wilkinson, 29, has suffered a succession of injuries since kicking the winning drop goal for England against Australia in the 2003 World Cup final.
He has been sidelined for five months after dislocating his left kneecap during a game with his club.
Toulon have already signed Argentina flyhalf Felipe Contepomi for next season, when they will be coached by former France international Philippe Saint-Andre.
The French club did not elaborate on Wilkinson's contract details.
Club president Mourad Boudjellal has attracted several internationals, including South Africa lock Victor Matfield and former Australia scrumhalf George Gregan, for short spells at the club in recent years.
Former All Blacks captain Tana Umaga coaches Toulon's backs.
Wilkinson is one of 16 new signings by Toulon, who made sure they would still play in the French top flight next season by finishing ninth in the Top 14 this year.
Other signings incluse Scotland wing/fullback Rory Lamont and Contepomi, as well as experienced French scrumhalf Pierre Mignoni and hooker Sebastien Bruno


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Well, if he can stay fit, he'll certainly do wonders for Toulon, but I can't see him staying fit unfortunately :(


Also


JACK SIGNS FOR WESTERN PROVINCE TO PLAY IN CURRIE CUP


Former Crusaders and All Blacks lock Chris Jack will play in South Africa before he returns to the New Zealand scene.
Jack is taking the long way home after negotiating a new Kiwi deal when his stint with English club Saracens turned sour.
The club has been taken over by South Africans and while he fell out of favour there he has used the South African connections to stitch together a deal that will see him reportedly play the Currie Cup there rather than the Air New Zealand Cup with Canterbury or Tasman.
WP Rugby (Pty) Ltd managing director Rob Wagner confirmed a deal had been negotiated for Jack to be a Western Province player from July 1 until October 31.
Western Province are keen to tap into Jack's vast knowledge sustained from an All Blacks career that brought 67 tests between 2001 and 2007 when he left after the World Cup disaster that year.
"It's very good for us because Chris has a lot of Test and Super 14 experience. He is a very good lock," Wagner told South African media.
"We hope he can perform a similar role as Federico Mendez (former Argentina front-ranker) and Tony Brown (former All Black flyhalf) by helping younger players. We were also looking at it from that angle."
Western Province are looking to increase their depth at lock because they expect to have Andries Bekker on test duties with the Springboks during the Currie Cup and Adriaan Fondse is injured.
Veteran AJ Venter retired after last weekend's Super 14 finished.
"It's wonderful that we are getting Jack," Stormers and WP senior professional coach Rassie Erasmus said.
"We're losing AJ and I think he was a much bigger asset than a lot of people realise. We are replacing him with a quality player and then still have Hilton Lobberts and Martin Muller.
"Jack will not be available for us in next year's Super 14, but we really want to do well in the Currie Cup."
At 30 Jack is still in his prime by tight five standards but he faces a real challenge to reignite his test career.
All Blacks coach Graham Henry said the 2.02m and 115kg Jack would have to prove himself back home to come into consideration again.
That means he will have to force his way into the 2010 Crusaders on the back of playing for a South African provincial team.
Jack is a Crusaders stalwart, having played 89 games for the red and blacks from 1999 and was a key element in their Super Rugby dominance.
His test tally makes him New Zealand's second most-capped lock behind Ian Jones.
The Crusaders have Brad Thorn as their top lock and have rapidly developed Isaac Ross into a highly talented second rower.
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But they are losing Ross Filipo to a Japanese contract after this year's Super 14.




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Guess that means I'll actually be watching some Currie Cup this year :D

Wilkinson :nono: He's had about 20 comebacks since 2003. I don't understand why any club would fork out for him now either.

Also, did you hear about Jerry Collins signing for the Neath-Swansea Ospreys. They seriously need to get their act together next season, their squad on paper should be winning Heineken cups.

Nah, I hadn't heard about that, but it's good to see him moving on from Toulon. They are shithouse. And he's only 28.
Him and Marty Hollah in the loose would be devastating.

Super 14 Final tomorrow morning. Bulls v Chiefs in Pretoria, will be an epic match. But the Bulls are gonna be almost impossible to beat at home.

It's actually on at a normal time over here so I might watch it. Lions kick off their tour in just over an hour. Will be interesting to see how the team gel from the off.

Feckers mixing the lions game with the fa cup final

Yeah that's a pain in the arse. I thought the Lions game was 1pm.

Well Keith Earls is test bound.

Super 14 final is a blowout.

That match was ridiculous, the bulls were unstoppable. My man Bakkies was a force... nevermind Du Preez who just dominated along with Habana... but it's impossible to really single people out because from 1-15 to even the guys who came off the bench it was an all around awesome performance.


Also, the Lions almost shit the bed in their first match in SA, managed to sneak it out in the final 15 (didn't see the game though)

Was a shocker. Bulls smashed them. They spent a lot of time offside, but completely outplayed em. I stopped watching it and watched the baa baa's vs england.

Lee Byrne practically carried the other 14 men to that victory. Pretty embarrassing but I guess it was the first game, and the players have only been together a week. O'Gara is a pussy and Keith Earls should be back in Ireland by now.

Poor Keith Earls :( lol

Hopefully they can pull their shit together... I'm a Springbok fan til the death, but noone wants to see a blowout.

Earls hasn't even played a proper test for Ireland really, I am guessing it was mainly nerves at getting a Lions run out.

Lee Byrne was class on Saturday. He and Tommy Bowe have to be starting the tests. I thought O'Gara did pretty well as far as his kicking was concerned.

Shane Williams was poops and hasn't played well in a while, I think Luke Fitzgerald should see his place as up for grabs after the season he has had.

The number 7 for the Lions had a strong game.

Martyn Williams never has a bad game, he's a fucking machine.

what a bummer aboout the chioefs in the Super 14 final, they got their arses handed to them. but congrats to the Bulls, well played and deserved winners tghey were

Habana is a pussy, he wears more padding than the Dallas Cowboys.

it was sad to see a number 8 outrun a winger to score,

Aussie vs Barbarians this weekend, will be fucking sweet.

Not sure about the Aussies but the baa baa's squad is.



Backs: Ben Blair (Cardiff Blues & NZ), Doug Howlett (Munster & NZ), Sonny Bill Williams (Toulon), Seilala Mapusua (London Irish & Samoa), Luke McAlister (Sale Sharks & NZ), Josh Lewsey (London Wasps & England), Geordan Murphy (Leicester Tigers & Ireland), Ian Balshaw (Gloucester & England), Gordon D'Arcy (Leinster & Ireland), Ratu Nasiganiyavi (Waratahs), Justin Marshall (Saracens & NZ), Chris Whitaker (Leinster & Australia)

Forwards: Sebastien Bruno (Sale Sharks & France), Schalk Brits (Stormers & SA), Clarke Dermody (London Irish & NZ), Greg Somerville (Gloucester & NZ), B J Botha (Ulster & SA), Chris Jack (Saracens & NZ), Paul Tito (Cardiff Blues), Martin Corry (Leicester Tigers & England), Jerry Collins (Toulon & NZ), Rocky Elsom (Leinster & Australia), Serge Betsen (London Wasps & France), Phil Waugh (Waratahs & Australia)

Heaps of great players in there, and a good few kiwis too :D

Pierre Spies has legendary speed though, there's no shame in any player getting outrun by him.

And Martyn Williams is indeed a fucking animal.

Also the Lions are LUCKY they are not playing Bulls, it'd be a bad fucking night for them, if they weren't demoralized enough, that'd put a nail in their coffin.

I don't think Martyn Williams played well on Saturday. Not many Lions did really. He and Wallace can and need to play much better.

The biggest interest in that barbarian game is to see if some deranged person (eggbert spam comes to mind) charges onto the field to stab Sonny Bill Williams.

His work on the floor alone is worth having him on the field.

Not suggesting he should be dropped, just that he must play better than he did on Saturday.

I don't think he played badly, just didn't do much in a poor team performance. Can't wait for tomorrow's game to see if they've settled a bit. It's an exciting team. Hope Heaslip has a strong game.

I just remembered James Hook is on the tour, why? :nono:

O'Discroll is in for tomorrow night so I think things will automatically be better. Everyone was writing him off in January before the 6 Nations started but he has been absolutely enormous for Ireland and Leinster. Everything so far has just seemed like "his year" and winning a Lions tour would be the hat-trick. Dirty South Africans will probably try to cripple him.

I thought O'Driscoll was past it at the start of the year too after a quiet couple of years but his performances in the Heineken Cup and 6 Nations proved he's still got it. I'm looking forward to Mike Phillips and Stephen Jones as halfbacks, should give the rest of the backs a better platform.

The front row destroyed Royal XV on Saturday but way too many turnovers at the break down. Hopefully they're all acclimatised by now and no doubt Heaslip and Jenkins will play out of their skins.

Fuck off. Sonny Bill is the man.

that may be so, but if i were a winger, id feel pretty stink if a big bulky forward out sprinted me, :lol:

Well that performance proved any doubters wrong. What a brilliant all round team performance by the Lions.

Yeah that was a demolition. The play between O'Driscoll, Roberts, Jones and Bowe was lovely. Kearney did well but isn't putting any pressure on Lee Byrne. Good to see Ferris get a try at the end.

Lol I was screaming at Ferris to go all the way, didn't think he was gonna make it. The forwards were awesome, the turnovers at the breakdown were almost non existent and the set plays were smooth. Heaslip and Jenkins tore it up as I expected, and I was pleasantly surprised with James Hook when he came on.

Good to see the liions kills the lions, what a match, couldnt take my eyes off the screen

It was a completely different lineup too. I was happy to see Tom Croft in there.

O'Driscoll made a massive difference from what I saw of the match.

Aussie vs Baa Baa's tonight, gonna be an amazing game.

And Aussie destroyed them. They look sharp for the first game of the season. Robbie had them really well drilled.

Havent seen it yet BC, any influence on the game from SBW?

The little I saw of him in the Top 14 didnt impress tbh.

I'd give him a pass mark, but he's got a long way to go.

I think the whole make him and AB by world cup time movement need to sit down and STFU though.

Hes got some serious competition. Nonu is in great form and has learned to kick, Kahui is solid, Conrad Smith is brilliant and so under rated by the masses because he doesnt just run over people.

If he wants to be in ABs frame by world cup time he really needs to get his ass into an NZ team and put a hit (the mob kind) out on one of those guys at least.

So the lions beat a the Sharks B side. Woohoo?

Richard Kahui has been injured in training, and Luke Mccalister has been called in, it'll be interesting to see how he goes given he hasn't played any rugby in NZ for 18 Months.
Rudi Wulf has been injured too, Masanga has been called in, which is freaking sweet, as he had an amazing Super 14, and is an exciting talent.

FRANCE: 15 Maxime Medard, 14 Cedric Heymans, 13 Mathieu Bastareaud, 12 Vincent Clerc, 11 Damien Traille, 10 Francois Trinh-Duc, 9 Julien Dupuy, 8 Louis Picamoles, 7 Fulgence Ouedraogo, 6 Thierry Dusautoir (c), 5 Romain Millo-Chluski, 4 Pascal Pape, 3 Sylvain Marconnet, 2 William Servat, 1 Fabien Barcella. Reserves: 16 Dimitri Szarzewski, 17 Nicolas Mas, 18 Thomas Domingo, 19 Sebastien Chabal, 20 Remy Martin, 21 Julien Puricelli, 22 Dimitri Yachvili, 23 Yannick Jauzion, 24 Alexis Palisson (two to be omitted).

NEW ZEALAND: 15 Mils Muliaina (c), 14 Joe Rokocoko, 13 Isaia Toeava, 12 Ma'a Nonu, 11 Lelia Masaga, 10 Stephen Donald, 9 Jimmy Cowan, 8 Liam Messam, 7 Adam Thomson, 6 Kieran Read, 5 Isaac Ross, 4 Brad Thorn, 3 Neemia Tialata, 2 Andrew Hore, 1 Tony Woodcock. Reserves: 16 Keven Mealamu, 17 John Afoa, 18 Bryn Evans, 19 Tanerau Latimer, 20 Piri Weepu, 21 Luke McAlister, 22 Cory Jane.

Well you only beat what's put in front of you. Lions dominated from start to finish, they just couldn't finish anything in the first half. Made up for that in the second though. Mike Philips' solo try was awesome. I think McGeechan knows most of his test side now. Hope Roberts' strapping of the shoulder when he came off was just precautionary.

I think the Boks will be to strong for the lions.

I just look at the way the Bulls dominated the S14 final, then add more talent and I know S14 form doesnt always translate but they are just a weel sorted outfit all round.

Good players, decent depth, plenty of hardnosed pack experience with some amazing finishers. Its hard to go past them being the dominant force in World rugby this year. And possibly into the next world cup if most of there older heads last that long.

The only issue could be PDV, that guys absolute nutso I think.

The only reason the boks could lose is because of PDV, he's absolute shit.
NZ France tonight, fucken pumped. France doesn't stand a chance. :mad:

:shifty:

Rough game. And I see people are already jumping off the Mc Allistar bandwagon (I was never on it)

That said I dont think we should rubbish the guy for one screw up, he did ok other than the pass.

TBH if anything I think the fault lies with the Pack tonight. Mealamu, Woodcock, Messam and to a smaller degree Thorn showed up to play, the rest backed down to that French pack.

I say sacrifice some skill in the back row of the pack and put a monster in there (who isnt named Lauaki) Im not a fan of the biff but someone who isnt afraid to get involved and sow a bit of niggle. I didnt see a lot of S14 this year but theres always one bruiser in the squads, surely we have someone there???

I played forward all my time as a player and we all know if the forwards arent moving forward the backs dont stand a chance.

Oh and in the midst of that loss how good is Corey Jane, legend.

p.s. someone shoot Toeava, FFS how hard must he be sucking Henrys Wang to keep his spot???

Tommy Bowe is the fucking best. Love him.

Williams is playing class as well. Has to be Williams, Heaslip and Wallace next week.

Havent caught any Lions play yet other than highlights but it should be an interesting first game thats for sure.

Wondering whether Kearney could get a place on the wing too after today, he was played well. Shane Williams has been poor for a while now and he doesn't look like coming out of it any time soon. Tommy Bowe and Lee Byrne are certainties, Kearney for the other wing spot maybe. O'Driscoll and Roberts at centre seem certain as well.

Of course Kearney goes off injured as I post that.

I'd like to see Monye, Byrne and Bowe next week. Shane Williams has been shit all season and I think he was just picked in hope that he could come out of his funk on the tour, you couldn't not take him really. Stephen Jones didn't have one of his best games today but I'd still pick him over O'Gara any day. Phillips scrum half, and Roberts and O'Driscall in the centre.

Martyn Williams was amazing today. Powell was much more disciplined as well and didn't just run around and smash into people and lose the ball like a caveman, but Heaslip's got that spot tied up already I think.

Fuck

ROFL that pretty much sums the game up better than I did.

Lots of whiny bitch syndrome over it though, the same wankers sucking henrys knob last week are now calling for his head. And the Mc Allistar bandwagon looks like it got hit by a scud its so empty.

Fucking winning only supporters. Dont get me wrong I hate to see the ABs lose but the amount of dummy spitting going on from fans is screwed up.

Yup, we were just fully outplayed. Game is shit without the ELVs though, fucking Northern Hemisphere.

Province did well against the onslaught all afternoon.

It's really hard to tell how strong the Lions are going to be against the Boks.

Can't believe France outplaying New Zealand in New Zealand. Seriously if you guys don't win the next world cup you'll be on the brink of a civil war :$

People are so quick to bash the Lions saying they don't have a chance of beating the Springboks if they're only beating the provincial teams by a couple of points and whatnot. But the whole starting test team have yet to play together yet, it's all half and half at the moment really. That's the beauty of the tour I guess. Saturday will be very interesting.

Yeah I think that's the whole point, to be honest. It's a quick tour, 2 games per week, so the Test combinations have been tried out and every position is up for grabs but the South Africans don't know exactly what's coming until the Test side is actually named.

That has to be a little concerning though, surely you would want your test team to have a hit out as a group somewhere along the line.

If I was a Lions supporter I wouldnt be worrying about lack of talent more lack of a hit out as a top unit. If they take 20 minutes to get into the game and strike up some good combos SA could and I stress could put 20 Points on them in that time.

Yeah lots of talent, it's just a matter of how they all mesh. The Roberts/O'Driscoll combo is something that needs to be there.

They could come out there and destroy, or they could get completely destroyed.

Yeah they could have all the talent in the world but it all depends on how they gel. 2005 was abysmal, didn't click at all (mostly due to Woodward's fetish with his washed up World cup team).

New Zealand seemed shell shocked against France btw. A definite lack of fire power for whatever reason. Really strange to see.

Awesome Haka tho :p

I see they added Kaino and Smith to the team for the 2nd test.

Smith should add a little deception to the backline I think, and he seems to improve nonus game also.

Im not a big Kaino fan but he is a big boy who brings some serious power to the mix. So long as he picks his nuts up and does the hard work he should add to the mix really well. Rather him than Lauaki anyway.

Southern Kings vs. Lions was an absolutely awesome game. Probably the most physical game I've seen in a few years. Great to see some added piss and vinegar in a rugby match like that.

They really took the game to the Lions, I dunno though I thought it was terrible tbh.

Well you were going for the Lions obviously so naturally you'd be disappointed. It was cool to see a South African underdog not back down to a team of what is supposed to be superstars. I mean really, they had no business being in that game at all... but really, the just smashed their way into it... and as a second row forward I love that shit.

I love how Andy Powell is supposed to be a hardman, as far as I'm concerned he's a lot of talk, because he spent most of the game getting fucking flattened. Fuckin douchebag

Yeah it was disappointing as a Lions fan but really I thought it was a scrappy game when both sides had the ball. Physical as fuck though, you're right they were in that game based on grit and intensity.

No doubt it was scrappy. But when the physicallity takes over like that, the game is going to be scrappy.

There were odd flashes of brilliance... Mpho Mbyozo or whatever the fuck his name is looks to be a brand new threat that could be a prospective springbok... Francois Hougard (the scrummy) made some noise as a prospect as well (not for the boks but just as a threat in general).

Keith Earls stepped it up BIG time for the Lions, had some great runs. Ronan O'Gara managed to keep a cool head in the madness. You can't really take too much out of the scrums, the Kings clearly were outweighed by about 200 pounds, and clearly just outclassed. The ref was a big douche about it too.

Also, you had to like Wilie Human's big tackle followed by the mean mug of the century, followed by asking for his asthma puffer (you probably got different feed of the match I dunno lol).

Yeah I thought Nigel Owens had a bad game as ref. The poofter's usually pretty decent.

Stoked we beat the French, shit match though.

But still the crying continues about how close it was etc.

My god some people in this country need to have a nice refreshing glass of harden the fuck up. Its pro sport and yet we lose one game and people are calling for Henrys head, even after this win people still are crying.

We are turning into a nation of whinging little bitches.

wow Boks vs. Lions turned into a nail biter. Adam Jones is definitely going to be starting at prop now and that is a worry, as soon as he came in, there was a big difference in the scrums.

Other than that, Peter De Villiers is a fucking idiot. He subbed about every single possible player on the field and almost blew the game. He's lucky they were able to get Smit back on the field to rally the troops.

Great game, great win for the Boks... great 2 way refereeing by Bryce Lawrence, and I was expecting much, much worse from him.

Was a great end to the Lions game I agree.

Was hard for me, didnt know who to root for. Usualy I take the Boks after the ABs but PDV is such a tool it makes me want to see them lose.

Now we've gone back to the old rules around scrummaging it's almost ruined the game.
There's no reason for collapsed scrums and incorrect binds to be a penalty, the free kick system was great. Although it's great that the NH sides were the ones who didn't want to play them. And those rules pretty much cost the lions the match.

NZ FUCK YEAH!
http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/2521772...tareaud-bashed

Fucking morons, hope they find them and string them up.

Pretty fucking sad. It really does go hand in hand with the whiny penis attitude we are starting to have to losing however.

Also BC did you see Zac Guilfords dad died at the u20 WC final? Pretty sad story really even though they won.

Great job by emergin boks. Not a good game to watch aesthetically but still some thunderous tackling and test match intensity... just awful fucking conditions.

Vermuillen, Daisel and Potgeiter all made cases for themselves to be definite future Boks, and I'd go as far as to say they should already be on the squad.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crim...lington-attack

Fucking pussy.

I cant beleive that shit, hopefully it comes out one of the girls smacked him and broke his eye socket.

Lol my mate told me this earlier. What a twat. Fucking pussy French.

God what a game.

Ubelievable test. Total war. Good on the Lions for bring it to the Boks, tough luck. I'm happy though lol.

Peter De Villiers is a twat. So is Schalk Burger, I love the guy and all, but what a fucking asshole.

Adam Jones had "The Beast" in his pocket all afternoon. Fucking heartbreaking way to lose, when Jenkins and Jones went off that was where it started to go wrong as we had the South Africans totally rattled up front, the uncontested scrums was a blessing for them. You could tell they weren't happy at all until about the final quarter, the injuries were ridiculous! That game had everything though and the Lions definitely won a lot of respect after last week. Fucking shame we couldn't have salvaged something to make next week mean something though, damn you Ronan O'Gara!! :P

I wouldn't say Adam Jones dominated the Beast though. I mean he got the one penalty on him but other than that they were fairly even. Adam Jones is a quality scrummager though, probably tops in the world. Woulda loved to see him go up against a prime Os Du Randt (who was actually his best in the latter stages of his career). Credit Botha though for taking him out of the game, because as you said the game changed around when him and Jenkins came off. Botha NAILED him in a ruck, and for once it was clean (lol I love Bakkies more than my family but he's known to dabble on wrong side of the law from time to time :p)

lol there's a reason the injuries piled up though, it was a physical match, and even though the Boks were rattled, they were up to the challenge. Jon Smit is a great leader and he managed to keep the lads togehter.

Andrew Sheridan vs. Bakkies Botha all game was fun to watch, and you could tell they were both enjoying themselves, it's always great to see that kind of stuff.

Heinrich Broussouw was UNBELIEVABLE. He did more in 20 minutes than the Bok loose forwards (apart from Spies) did all fucking game. How he a) wasn't starting and b) had Dani Roussouw come off the bench ahead of him is beyond me. Peter De Villiers is a complete hack. I hate him.

Brian O'Driscoll is pure class and tough as nails, some of the tackles he made today were awe inspiring. He took out Roussouw, offside or not, it says a lot for a center to take out a lock/flank like that.

Jamie Roberts however was a little quiet. The Boks managed to shut him up.

oops, I guess some people didn't think botha's hit on jones was legal... he got cited. Meh, it's bullshit, it's a ruck in a rugby match not a tickling competition.

Yeah they were doubling up on Roberts all game this week as the Boks were cut open a few times in the center last week. Kearney was class. Glad that dirty cunt Burger was spotted. Gotta say though I do love seeing South African players and fans get riled up when things aren't going their way :p both the team and the fans were throwing their dummies out the pram a few times :lol: They really hate when their "untouchable" status is threatened, it's a religion to those people. But nah I'm just being a petty fan, all credit to them for ultimately coming back and winning as a lot of teams would have just folded, just fucking gutted really. The injuries killed us in the end. Won't forget that game for a long time.

South Africa coach Peter de Villiers said not only should Burger not have been sent off but he should not have been shown a card of any colour.

"I don't think it should have been a card at all," De Villiers said.

"For me and for everybody, this is sport. This is what it is all about. This is great if everything is clear cut in this environment we are in we shouldn't try to prepare even.

"What people think and what people say to us is their opinion and we honour their opinion but it doesn't mean we all agree with it."



:wtf: Off his head that guy.

lol, de villiers is a nut.
Amazing game though. Better than NZ anyway :|