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IC Champion 05-11-2009 02:27 PM

"I lost my smile"
 
An epic moment in wrestling history, I'm sure someone of us remember it like it was yesterday, the day that the world champion Shawn Michaels "lost" his smile.

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IC Champion 05-11-2009 02:34 PM

I still get teary eyed watching it. So heart felt.

Dorkchop 05-11-2009 02:40 PM

http://bobsworth.dreamhosters.com/ke...9wabg&start=15

#1-norm-fan 05-11-2009 03:00 PM

"Stone Cold Steve Austin Found His Smile."

http://www.scoopthis.com/images/arti...7b_nosmile.jpg

4 knuckles up 05-11-2009 03:21 PM

Why didn't he put someone over by losing the belt to them before he went away for a while?

Or did he?

Nicky Fives 05-11-2009 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4 knuckles up (Post 2538266)
Why didn't he put someone over by losing the belt to them before he went away for a while?

Or did he?

nope..... they had a "Final Four" Match at the IYH event to crown a new champ.... Bret won.... go figure :shifty:

IC Champion 05-11-2009 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4 knuckles up (Post 2538266)
Why didn't he put someone over by losing the belt to them before he went away for a while?

Or did he?

No he did not. He refused to, hence him losing his smile.

#1-norm-fan 05-11-2009 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nick55555 (Post 2538270)
nope..... they had a "Final Four" Match at the IYH event to crown a new champ.... Bret won.... go figure :shifty:

Then lost it the very next night to Sid...

James Steele 05-11-2009 05:02 PM

Shawn's career-threatening knee injury had nothing to do with this, huh?

IC Champion 05-11-2009 05:49 PM

LOL, "knee injury"

Xero 05-11-2009 06:28 PM

LOL, "Montreal was awesome."

RP 05-11-2009 06:30 PM

Did anyone ever go to a show when the ratings for WWE started to get low, with a sign that said " I lost my television remote "?

Theo Dious 05-11-2009 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Instant Classic (Post 2538356)
LOL, "knee injury"

Brought to you by TPWW's resident medical professional, Instant Classic, MD.

IC Champion 05-11-2009 07:14 PM

You don't need to be a doctor to know Michaels feigned the injury.

James Steele 05-11-2009 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Instant Classic (Post 2538409)
You don't need to be a doctor to know Michaels feigned the injury.

You just need to believe a delusional smark who will believe a bunch of jealous carnies over the man you are talking shit about.

IC Champion 05-11-2009 07:34 PM

The man is question was also a petty carnie.

James Steele 05-11-2009 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Instant Classic (Post 2538424)
The man is question was also a petty carnie.

He is the greatest carnie of all time, and that pissed off several other carnies. I'd believe the carnie about his own injury before I believe some other pissed off bitter carnies about said carnies injury.

IC Champion 05-11-2009 07:42 PM

Of course you would.

James Steele 05-11-2009 07:43 PM

Yes, and you should too.

IC Champion 05-11-2009 07:45 PM

No, I'm not retarded.

IC Champion 05-11-2009 07:45 PM

Shawn would tell you he never took a dick in the ass probably too.

James Steele 05-11-2009 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Instant Classic (Post 2538439)
Shawn would tell you he never took a dick in the ass probably too.

OK, what bitter wrestler told you in his book or shitty "shoot tape" that Shawn engaged in a homosexual sex act?

Ol Dirty Dastard 05-11-2009 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James Steele (Post 2538442)
OK, what bitter wrestler told you in his book or shitty "shoot tape" that Shawn engaged in a homosexual sex act?

I have a feeling you would toss Shaw Michael's salad given the chance. He's just a dude, not a god, settle down.

IC Champion 05-11-2009 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James Steele (Post 2538442)
OK, what bitter wrestler told you in his book or shitty "shoot tape" that Shawn engaged in a homosexual sex act?

http://showstoppa23.tripod.com/siteb...ictures/32.jpg

Kane Knight 05-11-2009 08:04 PM

Come on. Michaels is a petty bitch. Let's accept it and move on.

He's also a faggot. not that there's anything wrong with that.

Theo Dious 05-11-2009 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Instant Classic (Post 2538449)

Remind me again where that photo originated?

IC Champion 05-11-2009 08:10 PM

Yes, because the majority of readers of the magezine aren't fags or anything?

Kane Knight 05-11-2009 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Instant Classic (Post 2538467)
Yes, because the majority of readers of the magezine aren't fags or anything?

They aren't. also, dudes read Playboy for the articles.

blake639raw 05-11-2009 09:31 PM

Why can't you just enjoy the performer without fellatioing the man? Michaels is probably my fav wrestler ever, but in the 90's, he was a fucking douche bag. Just because I like his work doesn't mean I'm gonna stick up for him as a human being. Everybody thought Benoit was a good guy....

Krimzon7 05-11-2009 09:33 PM

Good Point Kane Knight


If I had to job to a worthless Canadian piece of shit, I'd lose my smile too.

Kane Knight 05-11-2009 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blake639raw (Post 2538570)
Why can't you just enjoy the performer without fellatioing the man? Michaels is probably my fav wrestler ever, but in the 90's, he was a fucking douche bag. Just because I like his work doesn't mean I'm gonna stick up for him as a human being. Everybody thought Benoit was a good guy....

Word.

I love HBK, but that doesn't make him any less of a cocksucker.

Zen v.W.o. 05-12-2009 12:25 AM

What a faggot.

Ol Dirty Dastard 05-12-2009 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kane Knight (Post 2538661)
Word.

I love HBK, but that doesn't make him any less of a cocksucker.

lol you don't understand though, it's hard to see someone's fault when you're blinded by lust and a need to take it in the rectum from someone. This is what Mr. Steele has been afflicted by.

Theo Dious 05-12-2009 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crash Bang Newstead (Post 2538856)
lol you don't understand though, it's hard to see someone's fault when you're blinded by lust and a need to take it in the rectum from someone. This is what Mr. Steele has been afflicted by.

Pretty funny to hear when the only opposition to him seems to be a circle jerk of anger towards him and a lot of homophobic slurs.

Ol Dirty Dastard 05-12-2009 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tedious (Post 2538861)
Pretty funny to hear when the only opposition to him seems to be a circle jerk of anger towards him and a lot of homophobic slurs.

Yeah that is pretty funny.

James Steele 05-12-2009 12:47 AM

:roll:

I have never denied that HBK was a prick back in the day, hell, he is the first to admit it. My point in this thread is that he actually did have a knee injury, and after admitting to everything he's admitted to, why wouldn't he fess up to him faking a knee injury. HBK said he had a knee injury, and I believe him over some dirtsheet writer or bitter old wrestler who is trying to keep his flame from going out.

Zen v.W.o. 05-12-2009 01:26 AM

He was dancing and prancing all over the place at WM 13 and before that, while he was supposed to have gone off for surgery, for one thing. His knees certainly seemed fine to most.

Ol Dirty Dastard 05-12-2009 01:27 AM

Who fucking cares

Kane Knight 05-12-2009 01:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crash Bang Newstead (Post 2538856)
lol you don't understand though, it's hard to see someone's fault when you're blinded by lust and a need to take it in the rectum from someone. This is what Mr. Steele has been afflicted by.

Old news, really.

FourFifty 05-12-2009 02:03 AM

Okay, let's look at things like this...

If it was a knee injury, then they came up with a creative way of pulling it off.
If he was faking a knee injury like a lot of you are saying, then he cut a memorable promo that is still referenced to this day. People still remember this because people still care for HBK... but you know what line is rarely referenced? "Who are you to doubt El Dandy?"

JT 05-12-2009 02:08 AM

Isn't this the guy who also happen to receive a carear ending back injury at the beginning of the Austin era, and which miraculously healed around the time Austin was on bad terms with WWE?

Granted I think he's a great preformer, but kind of want to throw my two cents in there too on him being a petty bitch.

FourFifty 05-12-2009 02:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JT Kool (Post 2538914)
Isn't this the guy who also happen to receive a carear ending back injury at the beginning of the Austin era, and which miraculously healed around the time Austin was on bad terms with WWE?

Granted I think he's a great preformer, but kind of want to throw my two cents in there too on him being a petty bitch.


Why yes, because it's highly unfortunate that HBK was out for the bulk of the Austin Era, costing him millions of dollars. Let's all praise Sweet Robot Jesus that he came back during a slump, where he would not see the kind of money he would have made if he was wrestling a few years beforehand.
:roll:

Nark Order 05-12-2009 02:13 AM

There was really no reason for him NOT to be a complete prick and a petty bitch though, Vince never really reprimanded him much and took him back after every time he left on bad terms. Yeah, he took advantage of people but he was almost encouraged to do so. It's like giving your dog a treat everytime e pisses on the carpet.

JT 05-12-2009 02:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FourFifty (Post 2538916)
Why yes, because it's highly unfortunate that HBK was out for the bulk of the Austin Era, costing him millions of dollars. Let's all praise Sweet Robot Jesus that he came back during a slump, where he would not see the kind of money he would have made if he was wrestling a few years beforehand.
:roll:

Some people's egos go beyond that of money...I would place Shawn Michael's ego in that category...

KIRA 05-12-2009 02:41 AM

Lost his balls is more like it

The MAC 05-12-2009 03:41 AM

Bret was gonna own him in the rematch. Shawn said it best when he said "HBK lays down for nobody". He didn't want to job to anyone and yet he criticises Bret for taking the business too seriously and no doing the honours.

James Steele 05-12-2009 03:51 AM

How many guys has Shawn put over since his return?

Not Booked 05-12-2009 05:07 AM

Mr Steele, you are ridiculous. Are you honestly arguing that Shawn wanted to drop the belt but couldn't?

You know damn-well any other performer in the WWF would have said "Vince, I'm hurt, I need to drop the belt". You know the Undertaker, Austin, The Rock or Mankind would have gone out there, had one more match and done the job.

Shawn would have been dealing with the pain of a knee injury like this for many years. This stuff builds up over time. You think if he wanted to drop the belt he couldn't have had one more match, or done it one match sooner...?

Kane Knight 05-12-2009 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FourFifty (Post 2538909)
but you know what line is rarely referenced? "Who are you to doubt El Dandy?"

Except, you know, it is.

I mean, if you gotta lie to support your side of the story....

The MAC 05-12-2009 10:20 AM

He was dancing around like the stripper he must of been in his former life on RAW and WM13..what the fuck is wrong with you steele? Are you sitting on shawns cock right now?

The Mackem 05-12-2009 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kane Knight (Post 2539086)
Except, you know, it is.

I mean, if you gotta lie to support your side of the story....

Who are you to doubt El Dandy?

Zen v.W.o. 05-12-2009 11:26 AM

This guy is a true professional. (el dandy, not HBK)

Kane Knight 05-12-2009 11:47 AM

Also, what does it say about Michaels if he's so remembered for "I lost my smile," as people seem to claim? Is Austin remembered for "He took his ball and went home?" No. Is the Rock remembered for the Scorpion King? Nobody remembers that movie. is Hogan remembered for being....Fuck, that's a bad example.

Though to the IWC, it might be a fair comparison. When people bring up Hogan here, they rarely bring up the slamming of Andre, or the years where he practically carried WWF. They bring him up as a politicking douchebag. And if you really want to tout "I lost my smile" being remembered over his actual wrestling accomplishments as a feather in his cap, well....

I guess what I'm saying is that was stupid and sells Michaels short, fourfifty. I know you're a little smarter than your argument.

The MAC 05-12-2009 01:43 PM

no one denies michaels contributions but his selfishness must also be noted. At least sell your fake injury, you fag. Bret worked a brilliant match going out of his way to make michaels shine, put michaels over clean in the middle of the ring at wm12. Immediately after that Michaels told him to get the fuck out of his ring.

Was it too much for him to return the favour at WM13? I guess so. Fuck , he was injured and still didnt want to put austin over the next year at Wm14. How fucking selfish.

And lets not forget the crying in the lockerroom after the screw job. guess he lost his smile there too.

Kane Knight 05-12-2009 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The MAC (Post 2539263)
no one denies michaels contributions but his selfishness must also be noted. At least sell your fake injury, you fag. Bret worked a brilliant match going out of his way to make michaels shine, put michaels over clean in the middle of the ring at wm12. Immediately after that Michaels told him to get the fuck out of his ring.

Was it too much for him to return the favour at WM13? I guess so. Fuck , he was injured and still didnt want to put austin over the next year at Wm14. How fucking selfish.

And lets not forget the crying in the lockerroom after the screw job. guess he lost his smile there too.

Why do you hate God, America, and puppies?

Zeeboe 05-12-2009 03:01 PM

I really wish I knew how to upload a clip to You Tube (Translation: I wish I had the patience to learn how to upload a video to You Tube.) Because as I've bragged about before on here, I have almost all the 97' Raw episodes recorded on VHS, and towards the end of that year, when Jim Neidhart came out to confront D-X after they had a little person come out and wear a Bret Hart mask, and make fun of Bret, HBK questioned the whereabouts of the other Hart Foundation members. Neidhart told him Bulldog had a knee injury to which Shawn sarcastically replied and said something as long the lines of

"Ohh, one of those knee injuries! Yeah, I've had "one of those knee injuries" before...."

Not the exact words, but even Shawn himself implied he faked the knee injury.

Maybe that above clip is already on youtube, maybe it's not, but I tell ya, Bret and Shawn said all kinds of "shoot style" things to one another in interviews through out 1997. Things I had no clue what they were talking about until years later when I watched the episodes again. It made for some truly classic stuff. It was great to be a wrestling fan at that time. Anyhow, in closing, I believe HBK did fake the injury, and his refusal to job to Bret after Bret jobbed to him at Wrestlemania 12, and was told by Shawn afterwards to "get the fuck outta the ring, this is my time", goes to show how unprofessional the boy toy truly is, and that in the wrestling business, it's not "only the strong survive", it's "only the evil survive". And of course, Shawn's kiss-up, tag-along, buddy Triple H would later go on to carry the company, and now another butt-kisser, Randy Orton is in the process of becoming the big man on campus next, along with his two buddies that are only there cause of their father's. That's what wrestling is all about now. Who you kiss up to, and/or who your father is.

That trend started because of Shawn Michaels when he screwed over a real wrestler, a wrestling of tradition. When that happened, Shawn not only screwed Bret Hart, but he screwed the wrestling business, and the notion of actually paying your dues to get to the top by having a strong work ethic too.

The MAC 05-12-2009 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kane Knight (Post 2539268)
Why do you hate God, America, and puppies?

god doesn't exist, america because(all the points bret made during 97), and I'm a cat person.

thedamndest 05-12-2009 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Val Venis (Post 2539336)
That's what wrestling is all about now. Who you kiss up to, and/or who your father is.

Hey, who was Bret Hart's father again?

The MAC 05-12-2009 03:36 PM

Even Stu ,at 80, could have kicked hbk's ass.

thedamndest 05-12-2009 04:06 PM

You Are Here.
















The Point.

Rob 05-12-2009 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James Steele (Post 2538863)
:roll:

I have never denied that HBK was a prick back in the day, hell, he is the first to admit it. My point in this thread is that he actually did have a knee injury, and after admitting to everything he's admitted to, why wouldn't he fess up to him faking a knee injury. HBK said he had a knee injury, and I believe him over some dirtsheet writer or bitter old wrestler who is trying to keep his flame from going out.

MARK

Dr James Andrews was on WWF TV less than a week later saying Shawn's "knee injury" wasn't serious and he'd make a comeback in less than 6 weeks.

Believe a legit doctor or Shawn Michaels?

Actually, don't answer that. Stick to wiping his cum off your top lip.

IC Champion 05-12-2009 04:16 PM

HBK WOULDN'T LIE HE'S A BORN AGAIN JESUS FREAK AND TEXAN, HE CAN'T LIE!!!!!!!!

Nark Order 05-12-2009 04:17 PM

Despite all of this I know one thing and can never be convinced otherwise.

Shawn Michaels > Bret Hart

Zen v.W.o. 05-12-2009 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Narcissus (Post 2539383)
Despite all of this I know one thing and can never be convinced otherwise.

Shawn Michaels > Bret Hart

...at sucking cock.

bigdaddysuperfreak 05-12-2009 04:24 PM

Im not gonna side with either and the only thing im gonna say is that HBKs music is fucking horrible.

thedamndest 05-12-2009 04:26 PM

Can we get a mod to get a definitive Bret v. Shawn thread going so I don't have to check 3 or 4 for my daily dose of mark shit talking?

Nark Order 05-12-2009 04:28 PM

Shawn has bested Bret at pretty much every aspect of the game IMO. Shawn definitely came out on top in this real life shoot fued of theres. Not going to get into an arguement with Zen though about this as he probably won't be able to argue all too well with Bret's ballsack on his tongue.

The MAC 05-12-2009 04:31 PM

shawn is only wrestling to support his cocaine habbit. He cant give blowjobs all weekend like he used to cus church is on sundays.

Nark Order 05-12-2009 04:36 PM

How ironic is it that Shawn Michaels just may be the best there is, was, and ever will be?

Like really.

Kane Knight 05-12-2009 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thedamndest (Post 2539369)
This is the pulse.













This is your finger, far from the pulse, straight up your ass.

Say, would you like a chocolate covered pretzel?


IC Champion 05-12-2009 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Narcissus (Post 2539415)
How ironic is it that Shawn Michaels just may be the best there is, was, and ever will be?

Like really.

Arguing who is the best wrestler in a fake sport is like arguing over which is more retared, a child with austism, or a child with down syndrome, they are both retareded.

Fignuts 05-12-2009 04:50 PM

You people are fucking retarded, swear to god.

James Steele 05-12-2009 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob (Post 2539378)
MARK

Dr James Andrews was on WWF TV less than a week later saying Shawn's "knee injury" wasn't serious and he'd make a comeback in less than 6 weeks.

Believe a legit doctor or Shawn Michaels?

Actually, don't answer that. Stick to wiping his cum off your top lip.

So he had a doctor on WWF TV say he had a legit knee injury? So, then why the fuck would you and other Bret Hart marks say he was faking his injury. My whole argument is that he had a legitimate knee injury that was not as serious as originally thought. Thank you for proving my point for me!

IC Champion 05-12-2009 04:52 PM

You mean the "knee injury" that was never real in the first place?

Kane Knight 05-12-2009 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Instant Classic (Post 2539437)
Arguing who is the best wrestler in a fake sport is like arguing over which is more retared, a child with austism, or a child with down syndrome, they are both retareded.

Like you've never argued over the better actor, director, or musician.

HBK doesn't need to be a real competitor in a real sport to be the best any more than Christian Bale has to fight crime to be the best Batman.

Nark Order 05-12-2009 04:53 PM

By the way, why has a Bret vs Shawn social group not been made? I'm willing to bet it would be pretty popular.

IC Champion 05-12-2009 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kane Knight (Post 2539443)
Like you've never argued over the better actor, director, or musician.

HBK doesn't need to be a real competitor in a real sport to be the best any more than Christian Bale has to fight crime to be the best Batman.

Silly KK, acting is a real profession.

thedamndest 05-12-2009 04:58 PM

Since there can be no consensus through logic over who was right and who was wrong, I have a proposal: The first ever TPWW Dozens! Team HBK and Team Hitman will exchange insults and myself and two other judges to be determined will rank the level of the insult from 0 (Are You Serious, Kid?) to 5 (I'm Calling Off Work Today). No subject will be too taboo! Sign-ups will begin at once. The winning team will determine once and for all, the Better Wrestler!

Nark Order 05-12-2009 05:01 PM

I'm on team Shret Harchaels!

James Steele 05-12-2009 05:01 PM

* head explodes *

thedamndest 05-12-2009 05:02 PM

Teams of Five Strive to Survive.

IC Champion 05-12-2009 05:03 PM

Teams of Four make love to Whores.

Kane Knight 05-12-2009 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Instant Classic (Post 2539456)
Silly KK, acting is a real profession.

If that's true, why is Cena allowed to do it?

Nark Order 05-12-2009 05:04 PM

Thed, I would like to be taken into consideration as a judge. I know a vast array of Bret/Shawn jokes and have a good ear for insults. I also used to be a shift manager at Macaroni Grill.

IC Champion 05-12-2009 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kane Knight (Post 2539472)
If that's true, why is Cena allowed to do it?

Vince owns his own production company?

It's the movie business, Steven Segel used to get steady work FFS.

James Steele 05-12-2009 05:05 PM

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f1...91c7c86204.jpg

TEAM MICHAELS getting ready to terrorize the Hart Foundation (TPWW).

Kane Knight 05-12-2009 05:05 PM

Can I be on Team Extreme? I want to get stoned and wander around the debate aimlessly.

IC Champion 05-12-2009 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kane Knight (Post 2539477)
Can I be on Team Extreme? I want to get stoned and wander around the debate aimlessly.

Me and Shadow have filled those positions, though we do need a Lita...

James Steele 05-12-2009 05:07 PM

KK don't do it, they will treat you like they treated this poor fella:

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f1...7d56c16b3b.gif

thedamndest 05-12-2009 05:08 PM

Seems to be ample space on the Team Hitman side of things.

DaveWadding 05-12-2009 05:08 PM

God, he was so fucking blasted on painkillers.

James Steele 05-12-2009 05:09 PM

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f1...ac96f860ac.jpg

Kane Knight 05-12-2009 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Instant Classic (Post 2539475)
Vince owns his own production company?

It's the movie business, Steven Segel used to get steady work FFS.

Quote:

Originally Posted by thedamndest (Post 2539369)
You Are Here.
















The Point.

Moving on....

Quote:

Originally Posted by Instant Classic (Post 2539480)
Me and Shadow have filled those positions, though we do need a Lita...

I figured, being a canuck, you'd side with Bret. I was under the impression that Canadian citizenship required you to be as far up Bret's ass as being a Texan requires James to be up Shawn's....

Besides, I figured you'd go for Rhi as your Lita for the sake of accuracy.

IC Champion 05-12-2009 05:11 PM

I dunno Lita was sort of mannish.

If someone told me she was a tranny, I wouldn't be shocked.

IC Champion 05-12-2009 05:12 PM

And screw you KK, I know where the point is.

thedamndest 05-12-2009 05:14 PM

As of right now:

Judges: Thedric Amndest, Narc, JerryTron

Team HBK
1) James Steele
2) Xero ?
3) FourFifty ?
4) Krimzon ?
5) ?

Team Hitman
1) DaveWadding
2) The Mac?
3) Instant Classic ?
4) Rob ?
5) Zen ?

Kane Knight 05-12-2009 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Instant Classic (Post 2539494)
I dunno Lita was sort of mannish.

If someone told me she was a tranny, I wouldn't be shocked.

Aside from her jawline, she wasn't really manly. I think you're mistaking her for Shannon Moore. But I digress, I don't have the requisite STIs.

Kane Knight 05-12-2009 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Instant Classic (Post 2539496)
And screw you KK, I know where the point is.

What, are you Hanso's Alt?

IC Champion 05-12-2009 05:15 PM

I believe Rob is a Hart fan.

IC Champion 05-12-2009 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kane Knight (Post 2539504)
Aside from her jawline, she wasn't really manly. I think you're mistaking her for Shannon Moore. But I digress, I don't have the requisite STIs.

I think I was thinking of Shannon Moore, my bad.


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