He's so sick (viewer discretion advised)
 

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He probably was doing him a favor and giving him some sort of antibiotic to help with the bleeding and potential infections.

i dont think he worries about infections, thumbtack jack eats people FACT

I'd rather watch John Cena vs Batista in a 2 hour Iron Man match.

according to kurt angle "It's real it's DAMN REAL!"

That is sick.

It makes me sad that this already has more responses than the DGUSA thread.

I'm not too familiar with DG, so I'm waiting for a torrent to pop up somewhere.

Check the DG thread. ;)

Ridiculous.

I'm sure it's worth it when he gets paid his $20 and the 40 people in the audience are cheering.

Why?

Seriously why?

At what point do you think, 'I know what a cool spot would be, I'll stick a hyperdermic needle through your face!'

of course what you didnt see was that he stuck another needle through the other side of his face and then gave him a jaw breaker

DO these white trash idiots think they are professionals?

Fucking Yard Tards

WTF? For real?

for real
it also has the finish on this vid, turn your speakers up and say ' ooooooohhhh fuck'

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That shit is uncomfortable to watch.

Uncomfortable, and fucking stupid. I live in fear that the idiots who support this shit are breeding.

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When wrestling stops being a sport, and becomes a freak show. I was surprised this freaked me out but it did.

Yes, different strokes... Some people like wrestling, and other people like watching idiots mutilate themselves under the guise of wrestling.

they do pull off some wrestling moves, actually in that TOD they had a great scientific /high flier match, ok so they did have thumbtacks taped to their boots, but it was still a great hybrid match

Are we going to have another Sadistic here?

Dude, as soon as that needle goes through Jack's cheek, it's not wrestling anymore - it's a freak show with a few wrestling moves thrown in.

still, its more wrestling moves than a john cena match

Did they bring out the guy with the shrunken head after this? Or the woman who bites off the heads of chickens? I love hardcore wrestling as much as anybody, but this is just stupid.

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that was the second time i've ever winced during a deathmatch, the first one being a few mins earlier with the brain damage vs moxley match

'nah, he's not going to use that is he, moxley is going to kick him and he's going to drop th- OOOOOHHH SHIT AAAAAH FUUUUCK'

scrub to 3:50, its a loud video you have been warned

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Firstly, show me the match where Cena uses a staple-gun against HHH's forehead. Secondly, these guys might use a wider variety of moves in a match than John Cena but probably not John Cena and his opponent.

There's no comparison here. We might as well set up a 'garbage wrestling' forum along side the wrestling and MMA forums because there's very little shared by the three, other than bare chests and physical contact.

lol, wait, Kareru is a garbage wrestling supporter?

GET HIIIIIIM!

Moxley was the HWA champion when I went to a couple shows. What's he doing there?

staple gun? that would be cool actually

anyways they 'blade' all the time (well used to)

id rather take a staple gun over cutting my head with a razor anyday

I wouldn't 'blade' they way Moxley did there in that video. Hardly seems safe.

I think I saw one powerbomb, and the rest was just weapon shots. I'd much rather see a Cena match.

i know you dont mean that, no-one wants to see a cena match not even john cena

I saw a suplex onto a barbwire board, and strangely no pin attempt. That's exactly what critics mean when there's no psychology in garbage matches - it's just a series of stunts or spots.

Sorry, I'd rather see a Cena match than a match comprised of nothing but gore spots that have no real meaning to the match other than "this is a cool spot, we'll put it somewhere random in the match and get a pop".

Garbage wrestling is the lowest form of wrestling. And in an industry as dirty and low as the wrestling industry, that's pretty fucking terrible.

For the record, I was okay with this guy until this thread. People can have different opinions, but I do not respect fans who enjoy garbage wrestling. And that's a fact, not an opinion.

Sometimes I wish I was a drunk redneck with a low IQ so I could go enjoy some of these shows - everyone looks like they're having a ball. They probably also shoot squirrels at night and are entertained by burning things.

Also, the "wrestling's fake, right" line is really pissing me off here. This isn't wrestling. If anything, it's more akin to "entertainment", the thing most deathmatch mutants will bury until the end of time.

blame vince for going PG

Vince never did retarded shit like this. That is not relevant to this conversation at all.

John Cena > Any yard tard.

Hate to take Cena's side, but it's kinda like saying I'd rather play video games instead of getting my balls chopped off.

..................What does that have to do with a bunch of doped up untrained jackasses with no respect for the industry or their bodies?

No, Xero. It's not even entertainment. It's mindless garbage that only a niche demographic cares about.

FAIL! CZW and other garbage wrestling has been in existence since the turn of the decade, and even longer than that in Japan.

Am I the only one waiting for him to bring up ECW?

I'm just so looking forward to that train wreck of a comment.

im rebelling, i wouldn't even like deathmatch wrestling if it wasnt for wwe going all PG

Good point. But it's entertainment to people with the IQ of a jar of dirt.

So watch Ring of Honor.

Or you can watch TN--....

Yeah, watch Ring of Honor.

i'do, i love ROH in fact i think its the best wrestling promotion today

So why are you "rebelling" by watching this shit? It almost sounds like you don't like it.

And to "rebel", I would have to assume you actually support the promotions and buy DVDs and whatnot instead of pirating it, right?

There is hope yet for this young man. :D

So go watch some old school WCCW or AWA. Watch some WRESTLING, not this deathmatch, yard tard crap. Watch some old ECW, or follow Japan. Watch RoH, or MMA. Or hey, stop watching wrestling.

Don't watch this crap.

Big Japan and FMW were doing this a LONG time ago. So your excuse for Vince going PG is kinda irrelevant.

i do like it, but i wouldn't want to watch it all the time

and do i buy the dvd's?
of course i do, i love smartmarkvideo.com

I hate you

Just making sure.

And just by liking it you've lost all respect as a fan from me. Even the ROH comment, which I honestly believe is just a way for you to save face, won't help you now.

you know im right

what so i cant like all aspects of the wrestling world?
scientific wrestling
high flying lucha libre
hardcore wrestling

I love how Xero says there's no 'helping' him like there will be dire consequences for anyone who doesn't get Xero's approval as a wrestling fan.

There's a difference between hardcore and garbage as far as I'm concerned.

Garbage has no psychology and is nothing but random spots strung together. Hardcore wrestling takes the aspects of garbage but uses them to tell a story in the match and adds to everything, instead of being the sole provider of action.

Barring something like a New Jack match, watch some ECW. Yeah, there's weapons and ridiculous spots, but they actually mean something. That's what I'm talking about, not this bullshit.

Well, this is the "Xero is right, don't ask why" forum.

TPWW is not a democracy!!!!

well it IS the tournament of death, i dont think anyone expects to see chain wrestling (although there is)

That's sort of not the point. The point is that this is not wrestling. It's yard tards blading themselves and stiffing each other for no reason other than they think it's cool - the fans and the workers.

you can use that analogy for anything

a wwe main event is not wrestling its just meat heads boxing and using pop moves for no reason other than a mark think it's cool

Even in a Cena match, there's psychology, buddy.

My father knew some POWs that had this happen to them in Vietnam. They didn't call it entertainment though.

This is why I say FUCK CZW and I would rather watch a Cena vs. Batista vs. Great Khali vs. Big Show Ultimate Submission Fatal Four Way match than CZW

No, by defintion, the WWE is wrestling. Just because it's a poorly executed and booked wrestling match doesn't mean it's not wrestling.

For example, your local sports team are playing particularly bad and losing games due to bad strategy, team management and squad selection, it doesn't mean they're not playing the sport, it just means they're bad at it.

These garbage wrestling guys are playing a completely different game. Bringing enough weapons to give a bloodthirsty 14 year old kid erections then substituting the rules of the game and tactics with their own means it's a different game altogether.

I still think kareru is kane86.

That's not wrestling. That's staged acts of violence.

Pro wrestling is an art.

What you posted is not art.

Therefore...

What you posted =/= wrestling

Alright, calm down. Lets not get preachy over wrestling. It's not an art, it's a form of entertainment.

They should do this in MMA. God MMA is amazing.

Okay in all fairness Kareru is entitled to his opinion and if he enjoys watching this kinda stuff then fair play to him for coming on here and saying it.

But my personal opinion: that was some of the most pathetic stuff I've ever seen. Especially the second video.

Oh my gosh I think I am gonna be sick after watching that clip

That is one of the most disgusting things ever

Shit for all the blame the old ECW used to get it was never ever near as bad as that horrible clip he posted

That isn't wrestling to me when you gotta use fucking needles and cinder blocks

ECW was tame compared to that shit

one might argue that pro wrestling isn't wrestling because it isn't Olympic wrestling

To each it's own, I actually like the video. It was a legit holy shit moment. Would it of made it better if it was done in a WWE ring? Stop complaining

You serious? You've got to be kidding me.

Doing something like this would be comparable to the Katie Vick stuff, right?

Just not the same. Katie Vick was tongue in cheek, the garbage wrestling is malicious.

I don't think doing that in any ring would be entertaining. To the defenders: how is this any better than watching a video of something like a guy getting his leg caught in a bear trap? What does it add to the match? This is a legitimate question. I'm looking to figure out what you get out of watching a "match" like this. I don't want to hear something like "blame Vince for going PG" because as has been said, there is other wrestling out there. I'm don't want to hear "to each his own" either. What is the draw in watching this type of event?

sadism, you wouldn't understand

art through violence

I'm trying to understand. That's why I would like you to explain it to me.

you know many cultures use pain as a way to get closer to the gods, youve seen the guys in Indonesia with railway spikes sticking out of there cheeks

Art through violence?

I consider wrestling to be an art form yes.

But that wasn't wrestling, or art. It was just fucking dumb

Those guys don't look Indonesian.

What gods require you to smash lighting over your head?

would you let a guy do that to you?

im preempting you answer as no

that guy is, and he doesn't care, its quite an amazing display of pain threshold

I have a feeling that the guys in this match were not part of Indonesian culture

Which isn't art?

how so?

why do you think that it isnt?

So is it art or is it an attempt to be closer to the gods through pain?

Christ the even scarier thing is there's actually a niche group of people who enjoy that kinda crap

Something's wrong with your brain if you can sit back and watch 2 or 3 hrs of that and actually enjoy it

Hell ECW was somewhat hardcore but even they didn't go that far