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Evil Vito 08-04-2009 10:55 AM

What to do with The Miz? (Raw spoilers)
 
<font color=goldenrod>So...Miz is now "banned" from Raw.

Is this something they are going to stick with, and make an angle out of it, or have they already given up on him and are flipping him to another show?

I'd like to see them go somewhere with this...but knowing WWE's recent track record and complete lack of forward-thinking, I could see him moving shows. I could see him return to ECW to be the next challenger to the ECW Title...or go to SmackDown to have a proper feud with Morrison. I dunno.</font>

Anybody Thrilla 08-04-2009 10:59 AM

I haven't been able to watch for the past month and a half or so. Why did he get banned?

The Jayman 08-04-2009 11:07 AM

I honestly would like to see him go to smackdown to have that feud with Morrison. They are really working on the Punk/Hardy thing and I don't see them putting Morrison in the mix so he needs a good feud going.

ClockShot 08-04-2009 11:07 AM

He got buried, dug up, and buried again last night. It's like creative can't make up their mind about the guy.

If it keeps it up, I think a change of venue is in order. Either jump to Smackdown and give Morrison something to do, or have them reconcile and give them another go with the tag titles.

I mean, there's always Real World/Road Rules challenges. How long is he locked in the company for?

Evil Vito 08-04-2009 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 2658164)
I haven't been able to watch for the past month and a half or so. Why did he get banned?

<font color=goldenrod>He got put in a lumberjack match against Cena in which he'd be banned if he lost. Piven hand-picked all of he Raw heels to be lumberjacks, and...shock of shocks...Cena overcame the odds with one move, and Miz is banned.</font>

Anybody Thrilla 08-04-2009 11:12 AM

That's dumb.

Maybe they can have him dress up in different costumes each week with names like The Fizz, The Bliz, The Whiz, etc. He'd never get caught. Look at Santina.

Afterlife 08-04-2009 11:26 AM

Maybe that was the whole idea; a name change/new direction on Raw.

erickman 08-04-2009 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 2658178)
That's dumb.

Maybe they can have him dress up in different costumes each week with names like The Fizz, The Bliz, The Whiz, etc. He'd never get caught. Look at Santina.

he can be the new curryman

roach21 08-04-2009 11:54 AM

Maybe creative just doesn't take him seriously because of his reality tv past. I see him in an intergender tag team with that Jenna chick from survivor after he gets future endeavored and signs with TNA. They could go by Reality Bites.

Anybody Thrilla 08-04-2009 11:55 AM

They've taken him seriously enough if you recall his tag title runs. He owns a pinfall over Shawn Michaels, you know.

Lock Jaw 08-04-2009 12:43 PM

Hopefully he goes to Smackdown. Puts all the eggs in one basket, pretty much.

Droford 08-04-2009 12:51 PM

The Miz will be on ECW tagging with Zach Ryder. He should just change his name to Curt Hawkins so they can reuse the old Hawkins and Ryder titan trons and graphics to save money.

XCaliber 08-04-2009 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Droford (Post 2658320)
The Miz will be on ECW tagging with Zach Ryder. He should just change his name to Curt Hawkins so they can reuse the old Hawkins and Ryder titan trons and graphics to save money.

This was actually the guy I was hoping they'd swap him for.

mike adamle 08-04-2009 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XCaliber (Post 2658329)
This was actually the guy I was hoping they'd swap him for.

Are you saying you want Zack Ryder on Raw? I don't want anyone valuable on Raw, look at Swagger and Bourne. Sure Swagger got the win this week, but honestly who cares... The same would go for Ryder on Raw. But if you were just talking about swapping Miz for Hawkins then yeah for sure.

FourFifty 08-04-2009 04:20 PM

...........THE IN CROWD FOR THE COMEBACK!!!!! WOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

St. Jimmy 08-04-2009 04:22 PM

Future Endeavors.

FourFifty 08-04-2009 04:28 PM

What to do with The Miz on Smack Down?
What to do with The Miz on Smack Down?
What to do with The Miz on Smack Down?
Ev'ry Friday Evening?




..Yea, I ripped that from that one Undertaker thread.

XCaliber 08-04-2009 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike adamle (Post 2658557)
Are you saying you want Zack Ryder on Raw? I don't want anyone valuable on Raw, look at Swagger and Bourne. Sure Swagger got the win this week, but honestly who cares... The same would go for Ryder on Raw. But if you were just talking about swapping Miz for Hawkins then yeah for sure.

Now that I thought of it you're right Ryder would probly end up getting buried on RAW unless he was thrown into the US title hunt right off the bat. Although I have a feeling a member of Legacy will be the next holder of it which would be a good way to start the beginning of their end. Could have a 3 way trade and go to SD but then again they've already got an excellent IC contender in Dolph Ziggler right now but that's really it though so perhaps that's the way to go?

DAMN iNATOR 08-04-2009 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by St. Jimmy (Post 2658704)
Future Endeavors.

I'm thinking maybe THIS, as I could see them putting him on the low end of things on ECW, and seeing if he brings his game to the next level and can achieve ECW Champ status (don't see that in his future, though...:-\), and if he can't...PINK SLIP!

Innovator 08-04-2009 09:32 PM

Get him FAR away from RAW, Cena, and RAW creative

Skippord 08-04-2009 11:57 PM

I want him on Smackdown

GD 08-05-2009 12:18 AM

SummerSlam: John Morrison versus The Miz

Skippord 08-05-2009 12:34 AM

he's banned from summerslam

DAMN iNATOR 08-05-2009 01:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skippord (Post 2659500)
he's banned from summerslam

Of course, though, we all know that's going to lead to him making a sneak run-in from somewhere to ruin somebody's night...hopefully Cena's.

Fox 08-05-2009 01:40 AM

This whole situation reminds me so much of the Jericho/Goldberg stuff in WCW. Jericho is way over as a talented, charismatic heel, picking on a legitimate main eventer and getting absolutely nothing worthwhile out of it from creative.

I really thought they were going to push Miz and have him stand his own against Cena. I really thought he was going to be a new upper mid-card to main event player on RAW, and for the first time in a long time, I was excited about watching the show on Monday nights, just to see Cena get his comeuppance.

Fucking WWE.

Xerzes 08-05-2009 01:44 AM

Fired.

Into the sun.

Afterlife 08-05-2009 05:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xerzes (Post 2659558)
Fired.

Into the sun.

Choked on my tea. :lol:

parkmania 08-05-2009 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xerzes (Post 2659558)
Fired.

Into the sun.

I'll pay for the fuel for the rocket.

Mr. Nerfect 08-05-2009 11:43 AM

They could do so many things with The Miz. They can turn this into a RAW angle, where The Miz somehow tries to get his job back. They could move him to ECW, I guess -- but probably the best one for all parties would be moving The Miz to SmackDown!. There is a lack of heel depth in the mid-card and even main event over there, so The Miz could certainly fill a role.

One idea, though, is that they could have The Miz humbled by his experience, and start teaming with John Morrison again. Maybe not permanently, but a sort of reunion tour for a feud with The Hart Dynasty could be sort of cool. With Jeri-Show as Unified WWE Tag Team Champions, and D-Generation X getting back together, some sort of division consisting of The Best in the World at What They Do, DX, The Hart Dynasty, Cryme Tyme, Ezekiel Jackson & Vlaidmir Kozlov, Legacy, the reunited Colon Brothers, The Hardy Boyz (when Matt is better, and if Jeff stays), Edge & Christian (when Edge returns), The Brothers of Destruction and Mizorrison could be really cool.

But we all know the WWE won't do that.

Anybody Thrilla 08-05-2009 11:51 AM

I really don't understand all the Miz hatred.

Mr. Nerfect 08-05-2009 12:15 PM

I think it was his start with the company. He was too green when he debuted, and his initial push as a face character was really annoying. He just wasn't ready, and didn't find his niche until he started teaming with John Morrison.

The dude has simply improved. He may not be a technical genius, and he may never be, but he's had some genuinely good matches to his name (mainly with John Morrison), and he's got his mic stuff down (and he's no longer doing the whole annoying thing). He's finding his tempo, and it will work out for the guy, I think.

Now that I think about it, a feud between John Morrison and The Miz over the now uber-prestigious IC Title would be top quality stuff.

Y2Ant 08-05-2009 12:59 PM

Maybe his firing will last as long as Jericho's when Steph fired him earlier this year...?

parkmania 08-05-2009 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 2659942)
I really don't understand all the Miz hatred.

1. He's from Cleveland. I'm from Pittsburgh.

2. From Day 1 and his "Hoo-rah" bullshit, I've never been able to stomach listening to him. Just because he was using "smark-talk" when he started feuding with Cena didn't make him tolerable to me.

3. He's the world's largest douchebag.

Anybody Thrilla 08-05-2009 02:21 PM

He hasn't said hoo rah in like two years.

Anybody Thrilla 08-05-2009 02:21 PM

Really, what makes him a douchebag?

Skippord 08-05-2009 05:00 PM

The Miz is fantastic, you can all shut your faces

by all I mean the people bad mouthing The Miz

Afterlife 08-05-2009 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parkmania (Post 2660130)
1. He's from Cleveland. I'm from Pittsburgh

Then your feeling isn't hate, it's jealousy.

HOOOOOOOOO-RAAAAAAAH!

XCaliber 08-05-2009 06:24 PM

Wherever he goes I hope Maryse follows cuz their segments were decent.

dablackguy 08-06-2009 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parkmania (Post 2660130)
Just because he was using "smark-talk" when he started feuding with Cena didn't make him tolerable to me.

That was the point. Its how most 18-29 male wrestling fans feel about Cena. I was happy as hell when he came out and said all that

screech 08-06-2009 06:24 PM

I also do not understand how so many people hate Miz. He's improved so much, and was the best part of RAW for a while.

#1-norm-fan 08-06-2009 06:56 PM

Whether he goes to Smackdown or not, I'd like to see an angle for a few weeks where he appeals to whoever the guest host might be for that week trying to get rehired by them. Just completely kissing up and helping them promote whatever they are trying to promote and such.

Mr. Nerfect 08-08-2009 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 2662418)
Whether he goes to Smackdown or not, I'd like to see an angle for a few weeks where he appeals to whoever the guest host might be for that week trying to get rehired by them. Just completely kissing up and helping them promote whatever they are trying to promote and such.

That's what I'm thinking they may do.

Gertner 08-10-2009 01:02 AM

Have him shoot more midgets in the nuts with the t-shirt gun.

DAMN iNATOR 08-11-2009 12:51 AM

*SPOILER* alert for those who didn't catch RAW tonight...
 
SPOILER: show
Miz came outon RAW tonight as a debuting WWE wrestler, the "Calgary Kid", ultimately defeating, for some reason, Eugene, in a "Contract-on-a-pole" match, in which the winner retrieves the contract from the pole, thus earning a spot on the RAW roster. After the match, Miz used his facebuster maneuver and unmasked by the announce table, revealing his true identity.
<EMBED height=340 type=application/x-shockwave-flash width=560 src=http://www.youtube.com/v/81HNL6kQ95A&hl=en&fs=1& allowfullscreen="true" allowscriptaccess="always"></EMBED>

Droford 08-11-2009 12:58 AM

I would have never guessed "wrestle Eugene in a contract on a pole match wearing a mask getting cheap pops from the crowd by naming himself after the town RAW is in" in a million years..obviously the RAW writers are geniuses.

DAMN iNATOR 08-11-2009 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Droford (Post 2668722)
I would have never guessed "wrestle Eugene in a contract on a pole match wearing a mask getting cheap pops from the crowd by naming himself after the town RAW is in" in a million years..obviously the RAW writers are geniuses.

Yeah, but who are we to question them?:roll:

Nark Order 08-11-2009 01:12 AM

Good god. Dinsmore is a mess.

Cuzziebro 08-11-2009 03:45 AM

I didn't even know Dinsmore was still hired by WWE?

Mr. Nerfect 08-11-2009 03:55 AM

He got re-hired recently. Fuck the WWE for bringing the Eugene character back. I'm glad Dinsmore is working, and I know it suits the kid-friendly WWE, but for the love of God, Dinsmore is better than this shit.

DAMN iNATOR 08-11-2009 03:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noid (Post 2668985)
He got re-hired recently. Fuck the WWE for bringing the Eugene character back. I'm glad Dinsmore is working, and I know it suits the kid-friendly WWE, but for the love of God, Dinsmore is better than this shit.

Yeah, really. I mean, it was just PAINFUL watching that BS on RAW.:n: Wonder what other garbage guys from the past they'll bring back just to spit in our faces...

Mr. Nerfect 08-11-2009 05:19 AM

Enough time has passed so that the WWE could pass off Nick Dinsmore as someone else entirely. Darren Dinsmore could have been an interesting addition to SmackDown!, in wrestling matches with guys like Charlie Haas and Finlay.

DAMN iNATOR 08-11-2009 06:48 AM

I hope we won't be stuck with any more Eugene matches on TV. It literally makes me wince, every time I see how awful his version of someone else's finishing moves are.

Mr. Nerfect 08-11-2009 09:01 AM

I will take joy if they feed the character to William Regal and Paul Burchill in consecutive weeks on ECW, before the repackage Dinsmore, though.

Also, just so people know, Dinsmore is back in the WWE because they want him grooming younger talent. Apparently.

DAMN iNATOR 08-12-2009 11:57 PM

Maybe he should learn about grooming his hair first. How 'bout that? Then we'll talk.

Droford 08-13-2009 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noid (Post 2669298)
I will take joy if they feed the character to William Regal and Paul Burchill in consecutive weeks on ECW, before the repackage Dinsmore, though.

Also, just so people know, Dinsmore is back in the WWE because they want him grooming younger talent. Apparently.

They want a guy who plays a retard on TV to teach young talent..

I dont see how that possibly could be a bad idea.

Volare 08-13-2009 12:48 PM

Because if your better than a retard, then you belong in WWE! Simple WWE logic right there.

Mr. Nerfect 08-13-2009 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Droford (Post 2673392)
They want a guy who plays a retard on TV to teach young talent..

I dont see how that possibly could be a bad idea.

Well, when you consider that Nick Dinsmore is one of the better pure workers in the WWE, and has helped train guys before, it's not the talent's fault. I just don't know how much they can learn by wrestling "Eugene," whose matches are all pretty much farce.

ddpBANG 08-13-2009 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noid (Post 2668985)
He got re-hired recently. Fuck the WWE for bringing the Eugene character back. I'm glad Dinsmore is working, and I know it suits the kid-friendly WWE, but for the love of God, Dinsmore is better than this shit.

You can't really blame this one on the WWE. Dinsmore is the one who came up with the Eugene character. He even portrayed the "U-Gene" character on the indy scene after he was released.

Mr. Nerfect 08-16-2009 01:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ddpBANG (Post 2675004)
You can't really blame this one on the WWE. Dinsmore is the one who came up with the Eugene character. He even portrayed the "U-Gene" character on the indy scene after he was released.

Did Dinsmore actually come up with it? I can't imagine a guy with that much wrestling talent wanting to do nothing but fumble around the ring. Dinsmore could do it and do it well, but I always thought that he was just playing "U-Gene" to get more bookings and make some extra cash on the indy scene.

Anybody Thrilla 08-17-2009 04:55 PM

Like or hate Eugene, the character is pretty unique. He probably just thought it was a good idea to get him on TV. Not like it matters now, though.

ddpBANG 08-17-2009 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 2679922)
Like or hate Eugene, the character is pretty unique. He probably just thought it was a good idea to get him on TV. Not like it matters now, though.

That's exactly what happened. He was in OVW for like 6 years and not going anywhere. He needed something to get him onto the main roster.

Kane86 08-17-2009 07:23 PM

In my opinion The Miz is nothing without John Morrison. His gimmick sucks and he is not AWESOME!

Anybody Thrilla 08-17-2009 07:25 PM

But Kane86...The Miz says that he IS awesome. I'm confused now.

Kane86 08-17-2009 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 2680091)
But Kane86...The Miz says that he IS awesome. I'm confused now.

No Mike Awesome he was Awesome. The Miz was shit when he started and he will be shit when he gets the axe. Lets face it he is not cut for singles competition.

Anybody Thrilla 08-17-2009 07:32 PM

Then how do you explain his victory over Tommy Dreamer that one time?

Kane86 08-17-2009 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 2680117)
Then how do you explain his victory over Tommy Dreamer that one time?

Who doesn't have a victory over Tommy Dreamer?
Its not even a big deal anymore.
The Miz is Cenas Job boy bitch

Anybody Thrilla 08-17-2009 07:44 PM

What about that one time when The Miz defeated Balls Mahoney?

Mr. Nerfect 08-18-2009 01:09 AM

What about The Miz's 8,000 victories over John Cena?


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