The Anderson Silva problem *SPOILLLLLLLLLLLLLLERZ*
 

Okay so what do you do with this guy? There's pretty much 2 ways his fights go, either he just totally dominates his opponent and it is complete fireworks, or the guy he fights is smart and dosn't engage, and Anderson is kind of like "fuck you Im not going to get caught doing anything stupid" and it turns into a snoozer and everyone gets butthurt (sometimes including yours truly).

So what's Dana and Joe Silva's answer? Do they just give him guys who'll actually go at him and he'll just fuck them up or do they give him guys who deserve a shot but will still be tentative?

I guess an aggressive wrestler like Hendo is the answer, but he's the only one there is at 205 and at 185. They could make up with Lindland and sign him but he's irrelevant now. Maybe Vitor? He's fast, accurate and powerful as all hell esp. for a 185er, he's gotta get past his first fight tho.

What would you guys do?

Also lol at if he fights Machida... they'd have to play some Michael Jackson for that fight because it'd be 15 minutes of dancing.

They were talking about maybe Silva vacating the belt and officially moving to 205. So he'd have a fresh lineup of opponents right away there. I'm still hoping somehow for a GSP/Silva though :(

where did they say that?

'they' say allsorts of things.

It'll be really difficult to figure out what to do with him. I still think GSP has a good chance to beat him because he's not stupid enough to strike with him for one second.

You just keep putting him up against the best.

I think a Belfort fight would be a possibility if Vitor beats Franklin

Hes probably going to fight brock next

Who is this man? Brock Lesnar?

I would love it

Yahoo reporter in an article this morning, now I can't even find it.:|

Silva v. Lesnar v. GSP in a 3 weight class death match

Silva vs Brock would be insane. would probably do 1 Billion buys.

Could you imagine him fighting at 205 against some of the "strikers" that the UFC have floating around that division.

Anderson Silva could probably own 205

I can't think of anyone in 205 that would be able to beat Silva easily. I just don't see it happening. The man didn't even defend against Forrest and whooped him.

Few things:

1. Other than Lyoto Machida, no one short of the more talented heavyweights can hang with Silva. The problem is Machida is Silva's best friend and they fight in different weight classes specifically to not have to fight each other.

2. Anderson's 2 boring snoozers were because he wanted a title fight to go the distance. Cote fucked up his leg and the fight stopped early, so Silva did it again in the Leites fight. Pretty selfish, but what are you gonna do? Now that he's done it, he's gone back to destroying guys. Yay.

3. Franklinweight (I see you, Sho-Nash) should get a belt and Silva should fight Rich Franklin at 195 for it. Then he should go down to Welterweight and beat the shit out of GSP and declare 156 - 205 pounds Silvaweight and walk around with three belts.

A new title is a terrible idea. They have spent years making the weight classes industry standard. To throw one in the middle of 2, for a guy who could win the title above or below that weight is probably not in the business model.

It was a joke. I was just referencing how sad it is that Franklin's stuck fight at a weight with no title and how even if there one, Silva would beat him for it.

Franklin is technically meant to be a LHW these days. I think he keeps taking guys like Hendo, and Wand and now Vitor because none of them are/were LHW's because thats as small as they get... A perfect fit for a man looking to gain 20lbs. It is the sort of routine GSP said he would undertake to get to middleweight.

Franklin gets a raw deal these days. Silva made him look like a poor fighter twice, and he really isn't He has one of the best records in UFC. The Hendo fight was one he wanted, because 1, he won in alot of peoples eyes and 2, it is a blemish on his sick record, which someone like Rich should get the chance to make right, especially after the judging.

He was the postboy for UFC from UFC 48 (ish) to UFC 80 (ish)... Got a raw deal with this. The fans backlashed so we scrapped the Hendo fight. I mean... Anderson fought Patrick Cote ffs! Who wanted to see that? And now he has to face Vitor. A very dangerous fighter who really doesn't have the recent record to go into a headline fight with Rich.

Raw deal IMO.

Anderson Silva is an incredible fighter, best pound for pound after embarassing Forrest.

Everyone looks unbeatable until they're beaten. Looking through 185 and 205, I don't see anyone that would be a favorite against Anderson Silva, but I do see a couple of people that have a chance...

--Nate Marquardt: If he doesn't go in with the deer in headlights look he did last time and uses his grappling advantage, he has a shot to hang with Silva...
--Dan Henderson: Hendo has to put his ego aside and just use strikes to get a take down. If he wrestles a perfect fight he could win.
--Jake Shields: He's not in the UFC, and he's undersized, but he has amazing grappling that he could smother Anderson with.
--Damian Maia: If he goes in, pulls guard and frustrates Anderson with submission attepmt after submission attempt.
--Vitor Belfort: He's a faster striker than Anderson, just not as accurate, he has the strikers chance, but could pull off an overwhelming win.
--Lyoto Machida: Machida and Silva are very similar, it all depends on who gets the first few strikes in...
--Quinton Jackson: If he uses his boxing to get takedowns he could grind out a win.
--Rashad Evans: Same as Rampage, just not as good of a chance.
--Mauricio Rua: In his PRIDE days he could be a handful for a guy like Anderson, now... I'm not so sure.

I'm going to say this though I wouldn't bet on any of these guys beating Anderson Sliva I just think they all have a shot to beat him.

i don't think he could fight at heavyweight. if his natural weight is 185 and he's fighting people who are 265 then no matter how much weight he puts on he's gonna get smashed. i think a lot of you guys underestimate how much of a difference weight makes in fighting, it makes his victory over griffin even more astounding.

he could beat 50% of the ufc heavyweights.... none of the top contenders tho, but like eddie sanchez? I could see anderson tooling him

UFC Heavyweights Anderson Can Beat:

Mostapha Al-Turk
Pat Barry
Mike Ciesnolevicz
Randy Couture
Mirko Filipovic
Junior Dos Santos
Tim Hauge
Heath Herring
Justin McCully
Denis Stojnic
Cain Velasquez

dont think he could beat crocop or couture tbh

Anderson Silva vs The Axe Murderer

His walk around weight, although heavily debated is thought to be 220. Not nearly big enough to fight a Heavyweight. Not a good one anyway. And I would rather see him fight top 205ers than shite heavyweights.

I think after Hendo, the winner of Tito/Coleman would be a good fight for him. Someone who forces him to grapple with you. Couture would also be a good one, but maybe at 205.

I just see Anderson pushing his shit in. Quickly. But I guess one of Bisping, Wanderlei or damian maia would be next in line after Hendo.

The one thing that must be duly noted about if he fought Tito or Coleman at 205, is even though his takedown d is not the best, at some point the fight is going to be standing, which means at some point you're going to get hit. Coleman and Tito DO have good chins, but even still, it only takes one when Anderson hits you. That being said, Tito I think is the best guy to beat Anderson the more I think about it.

I would like to think a fully healed Tito would work a strong, standing clinch game, ala Couture. I mean, closing the distance scored Hendo points, but it also got him beaten.

Take nothing away from the majesty that is Silva's stand up skills, but Forrest was throwing some lame shots. Laboured kicks and sloppy hands. He was better against Rampage, and Shogun. Right off the bat. I think mind games really played a big factor. That wasn't the Forrest everybody expected. I mean, some people actually thought he was going to win!

I love Wanderlei, but he'd get crushed. He's rush in, and Silva would pick him apart. I expect the Axe Murderer to crush Bisping coming up though. Of course ,if he loses, I foresee him retiring.

I would love to see Tito eat Silva alive. but unfortunately, I don't see it happening.

As much as it pains me I have to agree with you. I think the thing with Forrest is he was trying to "feel out" Anderson, and I guess he figured since it was the "feel out" process he could be a little sloppy. And then when got tagged he was like "Wait what the fuck that wasn't supposed to happen" and he panicked and just started winging punches which is the dumbest thing to do with Anderson... I will say it led to some awesome matrix dodging that was tremendous to watch. It was not the forrest we've grown accustomed to though, he shut down mentally.

Tito I think could just shoot on Anderson, because I think he has a strong enough chin to take one of those knees and catch it. And he's not Travis Lutter, so he's not going to gas out like an amateur.

I think Forrest was doing so-so until Silva turned up the heat and egged him on and at that moment Forrest wasn't thinking clearly and he did what Silva wanted him to do but he should have backed off at that moment and recollected himself.

oh yea, Forrest definately let his emotions ride high in that one. Silva kept taunting him and making him look stupid and Forrest was probably just like "fuck this" and started swinging, which is what cost him

If he went for a takedown and succeeded the place woulda fucking exploded, he's a moron sometimes.

These fighters need to understand noone's going to think less of them for taking guys down, especially if they're working an active ground game. And if they did think less of them... WHO THE FUCK CARES?

Why Forrest thought he could stand up and go toe-to-toe with Silva no one will know, if that was his game plan maybe he needs someone better in his corner that isn't a complete moron.

that's the thing, I don't think he "thought" at all. you can see he lost his composure after getting knocked down a couple times. And then you had Silva pretty much showing him up by offering to help Forrest up off the mat and gesturing for Forrest to "try to hit him"

You know Forrest got pissed at that shit and just went off.

I think what pissed him so off was that he was taking this fight incredibly seriously and Anderson was smiling/dancing around, dodging punches, acting like a showman and a goof by letting him up and extending his hand and all that.

Plus, he got knocked down pretty good so I think he lost a bit of his senses and capacity to 'think'. Him running away afterwards was bizzarre. I was also wondering whether or not his knockoput loss from his last fight was fresh in his mind and bothering him mentally.

You have months to train and prepare for a fight, if you aren't thinking what are you doing there? If he was there to play tamatoe can he did a good job.

Hendo will beat him at 185lbs..

LOL @ Silva beating Couture.. Really, you are talking about a natural heavyweight wrestler.. Even though he is a BJJ Black Belt Silva's worst position is off his back.. Maybe that is just cause he is so dominant standing and from the top, but I see Randy GnP'ing him to a TKO if that fight ever happens..

I think someone unorthodox like Jardine would be a good match up for Silvas style..

Hendo COULD beat him at 185 but that didn't work out the first time. Andy also verywell could beat Randy, it all depends. Styles make fights. It's not who's beaten who etc. If Couture gets tagged he's in much trouble as anyone else.

And Kris P, really? Jardine? give me a fucking break :p

Silva would beat Couture, Couture gets in trouble with strikers that are good at firing strikes while backing up. Look at what Chuck did to Randy twice, and look at what Silva did to Griffin.

It'd be a good fight. Couture would try and press Silva against the cage but Anderson would catch him before Randy could finish him.

Look at what Machida's done with his unorthodox style.. Jardine is a big powerful guy who's striking style is completely "herky jerky".. I just see it being a weird match up for Silva uber technical style..

:dunno:

If Silva stays at 205, I def want to see him vs Rampage also..

But Couture has great inside boxing and has proved he can avoid damage against strikers with longer reaches (Sylvia).. I just think that once inside Andersons reach, he could take him down easily and stay dominant from the top..

That being said, Anderson has just as much chance of catching Couture and dropping him like a 45 year old sack of potatoes..

No one in Lightheavyweight is beating Silva. It's not as strong a division as people make it out to be.

The only fight that would be interesting is Machida vs Silva, and that won't happen becuase Silva won't fight Machida.

Jackson, Evans, Jardine would all lose because none of them would get him down and keep him down.

Silva is a best striker in MMA today, trying to stand up with him is useless.

^^

I agree with Hendo beating Silva..

I think Hendo is a much better conditioned fighter than he was when he faced Rampage and Silva back-to-back.

exactly. I fucking hate when he does that and just want to see someone knock his head off when he extends to help them up

when you take the hits he did though, it's going to hurt your thought process.

Why would be try to stand and exchange strikes at all, he had a couple minutes to think clearly before getting his bell rung.

Griffin sucks and was overrated.

LOL

Now you are just hating.. Griffin said himself before the fight the respect he had for Silva's striking.. He went on to say that Silva's made awesome fighters like Hendo and Franklin look bad.. Forrest is a great striker too, he just got added to the list of great fighters who Anderson Silva makes look really, really bad..

No, he just sucks.

Or he's stupid.

He's proven he can hang with some strikers, but noone in the class of Anderson Silva. Come on Krispy.

Kimbo Slice vs Anderson Silva

IC Griffin does not suck. He's a workman in the cage, that's how he beats the best in the world and hangs with them. Against Silva he was not given the chance to grind like he does best and really, he didn't give himself a chance to grind.

So he's like a 3rd line hockey player?

2nd liner who can outplay a 1st liner on any given night ;) Not all the skill in the world but a top class workrate.

No hendo wont.

Couture walks around at like 220 at least thats what he came into at the lesnar fight and hes very short. Hes going to get hit and not be able to connect. And Henderson's wrestling is better than randy's. We all saw what happened.

Jardine would get beat up worse than he did in his last two matches.

:nono: did you just compare jardine to machida?

thats not even the same fucking ball park. Machida is unorthodox because he uses karate perfectly. Jardine is unorthodox because he doesnt do shit right and against guys who dont move much it works.

SYLVIA!? of course he can avoid damage from him. You could literally track the shots coming at you.

Your boy Arlovski couldn't..

:wavesad:

haha did once!.... also if you tap im in the face...

Lol yeah, I'm sorry but Anderson Silva would fillet Keith Jardine... or take him to a lacklustre easy decision, depending on whether or not Jardine pussy foots or not.

I think Henderson and Marquardt would be good match up's for Silva. I think Demian Maia has possibly the best jujitsu game in MMA right now, bar none, but I think he'd be a terrible match-up just because the fights start standing at each round.

GSP would beat Silva

Don't see why everyone is saying Marquardt.. I mean, Silva banged him out in the first round like 2 years ago..

I see where you're coming from, I'm just a bit hopeful about his evolution as a fighter since that time. He would definitely be a long-shot though, in my book.

Rampage v Silva would be tremendous though. Would love to see that fight.

rampage doesnt move enough and has too short of reach..... maybe if he fought like he did in pride

Yeah Jackson would get laid down quick if he tried to stand up Silva.

LOL

You have no idea what you are talking about..

The only person to KO Rampage was Wanderlei Silva (in his PRIME), and as technically sound of a striker as Anderson is, he is not near as powerful as Wanderlei (was)..

I'd KO Rampage and then I'd KO you in that order.

I don't fight anymore..

I shoot..

I'd shoot and then break an arm, or hook an ankle, either or...sofies choice.

Reavant, handle my lightweight..

LOL, I'm welterweight right now son.

*Reavant, handle my welterweight..

I'd stll bring you down and choke you out though.

I could gorilla press you..

I'm not debating that you could, you wouldn't though.

self deception = fool's gold

LOL

Seriously though, I would fuck you up..

:love:

Not before you had a limb broken.

Hopefully it's my third leg...

:naughty:

You would need three legs...

:o

Are you trying to get in my pants, Mr. Classic??

You've seen Anderson Silva fight right? He even REALLY hurt Dan Henderson with some striking, it was a fucking glancing blow that started it and then his ground and pound really hurt Hendo who usually does not get rattled. He knows how and where to hit guys, even YOUR FAVOURITE FIGHTERS.

anderson would fuck the rampage of today up. He doesnt move, he doesnt have long reach, and hes one dementional. The rampage of pride would have a better chance.

for once this guy is on the right path to a valid point.



anderson hits the button. It doesnt matter how hard you hit it... its the button. Look at machida's stiking on rashad... same thing.

lol I hate you Reavant. But not really. But I do still.

exactly.

Everyone in MMA loses..

Everyone..

ok... well anderson wont lose to rampage i promise you that

How can you guarantee something like that though??

I mean, Rampage is a vicious striker who is dominant from the top, something Silva seems to have trouble with.. He is the fucking man right now, but no fighter is exempt from a good KO..

Yeah if Rampage fought like PRIDE Rampage he could give Silva problems, but if he stands and bangs with him he's gonna get knocked the fuck out, as simple as that.

ummmmmm define vicious striker because my definition wouldnt be rampage. Id say 3 years ago he was, but now hes just a power/counter puncher. Who was even shorter than griffin and who doesnt move or go for takedowns, so good luck getting on top where your "good".

Look at it this way... anderson has amazing skills and the perfect body type to use them.

So did miguel torres for all of his fights hes had. He was always redicuously taller than the guys hed fight, and he could hit them with a cross without them hitting him with a jab. Bowes however is just as big as torres in terms of height and reach and has a hell of chin and sick power.

Now if you can find a guy with close to the same dementions as anderson and sick power then I will have the possible KO talk from you.

If both men were fighting mistake free, anderson KOs rampage

Has trouble with? He was on his back for about a minute against Hendo, took a few shots, no damage, and used his skills to go on and win the fight from that position.

How can a guy who has won 10 fights in a row against world class fighters, without taking more than 5 landed strikes the whole time, never once hurt and embarrassing opponents who are former world champions, be percieved to have trouble with any fighter style?

Rampage would land as many shots as everybody else, and then get hit perfectly in the jaw over and over again until he fell asleep.

Jardine. :lol: Silva would win that wearing inflatable boxing gloves.