Randy Orton Vs John Cena match for 3rd PPV in a row!
 

Creativity has just been set back 20 years.




YAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

I love how arbitrary their Hell in a Cell match is. If I actually watched and cared about RAW, I would be pissed.

I bet we get Team Orton vs Team Cena at Survivor Series

Orton/Legacy/Big Show/Jericho vs Cena/DX/Henry/MVP

Combine all the repetitive fueds into one monster 5 on 5 Classic Survivor Series Match!

I think they should have put John Cena and DX together to face Legacy, and just streamline their HIAC matches.

I can actually see that happening.

2007: John Cena versus Randy Orton
A lot of Random Tag matches
Summerslam
Unforgiven
No Mercy (at least it was scheduled)

not to mention the number of matches they had in 2008.

i wouldn't have a problem with the feud if the wrestlers weren't so dull and irritating. I bet they even do a TLC match for these two after SS. Infact, i'm starting to think these ppvs were changed just so they could keep the cena/orton feud 'fresh'(for lack of a better word).

The Orton-Jeff Hardy rivalry was the shit!

<font color=goldenrod>DX and Legacy for the 3rd PPV in a row as well. Pisses me off cause DX are prolly gonna get their win back and that'll be it.</font>

I dunno. Triple H and Shawn Michaels are obviously pretty high on Legacy, having put them over at Breaking Point. Plus, the WWE is hurting for new talent. I think that we could see some shenanigans which allow Legacy to take another win at Hell in a Cell (with Cena retaining the WWE Title in the other RAW main event, to "keep the fans happy").

At least, I hope that is what happens. I'm also sensing that this feud might spark the tension between Triple H and Shawn Michaels that could lead to a potential match between the two at WrestleMania 26.

I do wish the WWE would just put the WWE Title on Shawn Michaels, though. It would be fresh, exciting, and it's not like HBK needs a credibility boost or anything to hold the WWE Title. I am really craving a Shawn Michaels vs. MVP match over the title.

how boring was that i quit match?, both wrestlers were getting booed, cena more than orton, so nobody really cared about the match, way to go raw creative.

I think Cena vs. Orton will be the first Hell in a Cell that doesn't feature either Triple H or The Undertaker.

i think the only Hell in a Cell I know of that doesn't feature Undertaker or Triple H was on Raw in 1998 with Mankind vs. Kane. other than that was the cell being lowered halfway through the Austin/Kane match at KOTR 98

I'm sure there must be more?

no those are the only ones

I really like Orton, but I'm so bored of him facing HHH, Cena, or Batista. He needs new opponents to feud with.

I dunno, it felt like Cena was getting a good reaction.

yeah, good if he was a heel, lol

He got a good reaction coming out. I know this.

not a reaction fitting the top babyface on the top show

If you count Al Snow vs. Big Boss Man in the Kennell from Hell, then you can expand it to either The Undertaker, Mick Foley/Kane, Triple H or Boss Man/Al Snow. Take your picks.

Some other HIAC trivia:

* Taking the WWE's stigma that being "defeated" is taking a pinfall or submission loss -- Stone Cold Steve Austin and Kane are both undefeated in Hell in a Cell matches.

* One of the biggest stars of all-time in Stone Cold Steve Austin was only in two Hell in a Cell matches, and none of them were one-on-one. The Rock only appeared in one, and that was also a multi-man match.

* Heels seemed to generally win Hell in a Cell matches early on in the match's existence -- but now it seems almost exclusively that faces win.

* Kurt Angle, Brock Lesnar and Batista are all undefeated in Hell in a Cell, although Batista is the only one of them who has appeared in more than one. Batista has also both pinned Triple H and The Undertaker in the structure, who are the most frequent Hell in a Cell competitors.

* If The Undertaker does face CM Punk in Hell in a Cell at the PPV, then it will be his tenth HIAC. This will be Triple H's seventh. It will also be Shawn Michaels' fourth.

* Of the four teams that have participated in Hell in a Cell as a team -- three out of the four have either been previous opponents or gone on to be opponents in HIAC.

* A submission has never ended a Hell in a Cell match.

aww that 6 man hell in a cell at Armageddon was fucking awesome, well apart from that sawdust spot

Well this time its serious. Its in a cell.

finally a ppv that can contain the carnage and blood and sheer brutality of the main event matches

-blood thanks to pg wwe

and -brutality and carnage

as a matter of interest, has the pg wwe ever had a hell in a cell match?

Summerslam 2008 Edge vs Taker is the most recent

Who got a better one?

The Undertaker
MVP and Mark henry
DX

Disagree.

Remember years back when people here were all clamoring for a big Cena/Orton feud and acted like it was going to be the biggest match WWE has done in a long time?

Didn't they waste the first one on Raw or something?

I know this is off topic, but I'll mention it....since DX was brought up.

This will never happen, but I'd love it if at some point, Triple H and Shawn Michaels lost the rights to DX......to Rhodes and Dibiase.

Shortly afterwards, Rhodes and Dibiase distance themselves from Orton.

The Miz and John Morrison join Rhodes and Dibiase to form a new Degeneration X.

New DX:
-The Miz
-John Morrison
-Rhodes
-Dibiase

A younger and newer DX that is actually edgy.....like the OLD DX.

Eventually - Triple H and Shawn Michaels call up Hall and Nash.....for a one night....and one night only.....match between the New DX and The Kliq.

Stupid idea? Most likely. It would be interesting for me atleast.

i love that idea . but my opioion means shit around here

My only problem with that is that Cody Rhodes & Ted DiBiase don't really seem to fit the DX image -- and they seem to be crafting their own legacies right now. The Miz, however, is someone that I can see wanting to take the DX name for himself. If The Brian Kendrick were still around, he'd be a good fit for it, too.

Besides The Miz, I'd probably include a freshly moved Zack Ryder. His personality seems like it could be a good fit for a heel DX. Chris Masters and Carlito could also fit the stable pretty nicely. But yeah, The Miz and Zack Ryder would be my choices for a driving force behind them -- with Maryse likely being in, hanging off The Miz.

Great points.

I think your idea with Ryder and Maryse is better.

Is TV-PG really necessary?: I don't like Cena...
 

Hey guys,

I remember back in the day (Attitude Era), I would be glued to my television every Monday night for Raw. Born in 1985, I was around 12/13/14 when Austin, The Rock, The Undertaker, and Mankind were involved in some seriously fucked up shit

I remember The Undertaker crucifying Stone Cold, The Undertaker "hanging" The Big Bossman, Val Venis almost getting his cock chopped off, Mick Foley Flying off the fucking cage, and Mark Henry fucking most of the female roster.

Hell, when I watched D-X back then, they were throwing people off the stage in dumpsters, invading WCW, and visiting strip clubs. What are they doing now? Going to the evangelical brainwashing center with Sting and performing 'relations' with the boss' daughter...

Why does the WWE feel the need to shelter this generation of fans from angles which are truly entertaining? I looked up to Stone Cold Steve Austin because he didn't give a god damn about what anybody thought of him (he even held a fucking gun to Vince McMahon's head). John Cena promotes "hustle, loyalty and respect." What the hell is that? When i watched wrestling in middle school it was an attempt to get away from all of the crap they taught me, not to reinforce it.

These kids watching the product do not need something that reinforces what they are taught in school. Give them something that makes them stand out as the kid who "saw a guy get his head grinded against a steel cage like a piece of cheese, and then came out the next night to smack everyone with a fucking steel chair." This safety shit is fucking boring the hell out of me...

Did you ever think that the reason you don't enjoy it as much anymore is because you grew up? You became more cynical, you picked it apart more?

I really have thought about that, but it really isn't the same as it was back then.

The "characters" had much more depth, involved storylines, and grudges to settle. I do not understand why they can't come up with some more angles like they used to have. They aren't doing anything else with their air time...

Austin drank beer and fucked shit up every week on Raw. He violently attacked a babyface like Bret Hart in the beginning of his push because the "WW-whatever" really wanted to put him over. What the fuck are they doing for Cena that makes him differential from every other guy in the company? he takes more steroids to get that amazing physique?

What does this have to do with PG? WWF was PG until 99.

Because you can't get away with that 98-PG stuff in 2009.

To be honest, I think a lot of it has to do with the negative attention the deaths of Eddie Guerrero and Chris Benoit gave the company. They want to be seen as "nice guys" in the eyes of the media, which is a bit bizarre considering the testosterone the business runs on. Whatever.

pg WWE are averaging about a 4.0

WWF averaged at about 6.0 and keep in mind that this was during the monday night war when WCW were drawing about 4.5

so by that logic

wcw (the shitty years) > wwe (the pg/cena years)

i also found out

The highest rating to date that "Raw" has ever had was on September 27, 1999, in an episode that featured a 25-minute-long "This Is Your Life" segment with Mankind and The Rock. The segment received an 8.4 rating.

all I know is that kids nowadays know a hell of alot more about sex and violence then I ever did as a kid back in the attitude era..... If anyone generation of 8-14 years old can handle the 'edgier' side of pro wrestling, it's this generation

exactly, i dont know a kid in the 8-14 demographic that hasn't played GTA (3d ones)

I agree with this.

Kids of that age are way more impressionable than we know or probably even remember. If WWE thinks they can clean things up by doing this, then so be it. No need to create any more trash for society. Perhaps the creater of this post should take a long look at himself and decide if that really made his life any better.

i really hope you're trolling

:shifty:

Steveviscious89 = member of the PTC?

:rofl:

Are you being serious?

Who knew the Right to Censor was real?

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Mary Whitehouse back from the dead

The fans of the attitude era have essentially "graduated" on to become UFC fans. The hardcore wrestling fans have remained, but the casual fans have departed. The WWE is smart. They are targeting kids. Kinda like Hitler youth, get them while their young and then adapt to these new wrestling fans likes and dislikes. The WWE doing what they did in the Attitude era makes no sense now, because people can go watch the real thing (MMA).

mma is boring, its just mostly 2 guys with cauliflower ears hugging each other for 15 mins

Can we chill out with all the Cena hate? cenassoldier is in the corner crying right now.

It really is the most played out thing on the boards.

That's cute. Cena making "JBL is poopy" jokes must make your gut burst.

20 years ago, people said the SAME THING about Pro Wrestling

The problem is that the Attitude Era doesn't fit todays demographic.

During the Attitude Era, the WWF targeted a much older crowd because thhat was the crowd buying into the product.

But those people who were targeted in the late 90's got older and had kids, and have become the major demographic of today's WWE.

Absolutely agreed.

Wrong you wop.

Holy shit! the Italian Stallion!

Are you still the world Spaghetti Eating Champion?

Nice to see a WCW jobber posting, even if it's complete garbage!

This from someone who considers the sloppiest backyard wrestling has to offer "great" matches.

Salvatore Bellomo!

If it doesn't involve trampoline's it's not wrestling.

Clearly

I will not.:|

Were you a member of Ashcroft's Department of Justice under the Bush Administration? JK

Yeah, when I look back on things it probably did really fuck my life up. Made me believe that if I got into a fight, a single punch to the head would not do that much damage... then I woke up in a hospital a couple of times.

Guess we haven't Cena Nuff.... Bragging Rights spoiler.
 

From PWInsider:

John Cena vs. Randy Orton at the 10/25 Bragging Rights PPV in Pittsburgh, PA will be an Iron Man Match.

I'm not suprsied.

Apparently it's called "Bragging Rights" because we all get them after sitting through sixty minutes of the blandest main event wrestling of all time.

Place your bets now on how many rest holds Randy will use in the course of 60 minutes.

It wouldn't be as bad if WWE was TV-PG if they still had decent wrestling week in and week out. During the 1980s and early 1990s, WWF had more wrestlers who could entertain the crowd or had more interesting characters to watch than today's WWE.

Seems like the whole pushing the focus more on "sports entertainment" at the cost of good wrestling is hurting the product overall. Right now they have RAW that is too cluttered up in the main event and full of bad booking and Smackdown that has within the last few months gotten much better as a show compared to before.

They don't even have very good matches. Are they just going through every gimmick match to see if they perform well in at least one? Because 60 minutes of straight wrestling doesn't sound like it is going to be this one either.

Is it too late to rename the PPV "WWE Iron Man?"

Why isn't called the Steel Man Match?

Because Cena is Superman, and he's the Man of Steel and all...

Superman vs. the Giant Snake for the WWE Championship

Does this mean at Survivor Series we'll see Orton vs. Cena in a Tuxedo match?

Cena vs Orton in a iron man match is going to be more painful than a PPV of nothing by diva matches.

Irrespective of ratings, I would be interested to see how the change in classification has affected income. It is hard to quantify with the recession and such.

I think everyone with a romantic view of the Attitude era watched wrestling for a long time as a kid, and then it changed when they got into their teens. It fit with the growing up, and the great thing about it was how it was different to what you had watched before.

Obviously, since it has reverted somewhat, it is going to upset the loyals, but you really aren't the audience who spend money on merchandise, and force your parents to buy you, and them tickets to shows. Thats just how it is. I work for the people who pay me the most money, so you can't expect different of anybody else.

So I guess people can now recover from Randy Orton's punt much much faster now.

What a shame, I was hoping for Cena to be out for awhile.

Anything over 23 seconds is too fucking long at this point.

























I take that back, 23 seconds is still too long.

Seriously though, who in their right mind is going to buy this PPV? It is one of the minor ones, and even if you love Cena/Orton matches, why would you buy it less than a month after they fought in a HIAC match?

This only adds to the fact that WWE is ruining the "awe" of the Hell in a Cell match. Hell in a Cell is supposed to be the coup de grace for feuds, not just a speed bump to the finish.

I honestly don't see how an Iron Man match is more brutal or feud ending than a Cell match or even an I Quit match for that matter.

I just had a terrifying thought. Maybe this is building to a match designed for Cena. I'm thinking of a "Chain Gang Match", like a strap match/dog collar match but they're chained at the ankle.

They should have a Flaming Tables match. That I would pay to see.

No, an Inferno match. Only because neither of them really has any place but skin to light ablaze.

Am I sick for thinking that?

A little. It's not strictly their fault they keep getting booked over and over again. Who knows. Someone should experience quite acute pain for this decision, for sure.

WWE presents FLAMERS live on PPV

So basically no chance of Orton on Raw today using what Cena said about "no more title rematches if Orton lost in the Cell" but using it against Cena.

On paper, this might become the worst Iron Man match in WWF/WWE history because of how bad both of these guys are as wrestlers (and in a way of how an Iron Man Match is set up to begin with).

What would really piss me off after this, is if one of these guys won the Rumble....

lol neither of them is a bad wrestler. Just everyone's seen this match 24124 times.

Well.....FUCK!

This is the feud that never ends, yes it goes on and on my friend

Someone started booking it not knowing what it was
And they'll continue feuding now only just because

time for an HBK/Bret Iron Man classic?

as Vince's lyrics say; NO CHANCE IN HELL!