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Calamondin 09-23-2009 05:16 PM

Bret Hart Open To Returning
 
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Source: Wrestling Observer Newsletter

For the first time since the infamous “Montreal Screwjob” in 1997, Bret Hart is said to be open to returning to World Wrestling Entertainment as a weekly storyline character.

Hart has had business talks with WWE in recent months, which played a part in the company rehashing “Montreal” at last week’s Breaking Point pay-per-view — in case he agrees to return.

While nothing yet has been agreed upon, nor should one expect anything to happen anytime soon, he is no longer against returning to WWE. In the past he has said he didn’t see himself ever coming back as a character on television because he could no longer wrestle and didn’t want to become some authority figure or manager.

WWE has had talks over the years regarding Hart returning to the company as a character. In fact, Vince McMahon told the creative team in 2006 that he was going to do a street fight with Hart on a pay-per-view. Of course, it never came to be and Hart at the time was saying that he was never going to wrestle again. Apparently, Hart was tentatively penciled in to team up with Shawn Michaels vs. Vince and Shane McMahon at Backlash instead of “God.”
Frankly, I'll believe it when I see it.

Londoner 09-23-2009 05:19 PM

Bret hart for guest host GM?

Cool King 09-23-2009 05:19 PM

Bret Hart for Raw Guest Host then?

Londoner 09-23-2009 05:20 PM

Beat you to it.

Londoner 09-23-2009 05:21 PM

Ha.

Cool King 09-23-2009 05:21 PM

:|

Mogadishu 09-23-2009 05:49 PM

If the WWE made a special trip to Calgary, where Bret would be the guest host for RAW, I wonder if Bret would be able to out-pop Hogan's reaction in Montreal? (the RAW after Wrestlemania 18).

Juan 09-23-2009 05:51 PM

I would love to see Bret back in some capacity.

Dave Youell 09-23-2009 05:54 PM

Fuck me, a bit chilly today in hell isn't it?

Swiss Ultimate 09-23-2009 05:56 PM

Another slow bitter old man with 20-minute long promos. I hope he feuds with HHH!

Kami Raki 09-23-2009 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Youell (Post 2734742)
Fuck me, a bit chilly today in hell isn't it?

I thought the same thing myself.

Pardeep 619 09-23-2009 06:06 PM

Believe it when I see it

Johnny Vegas 09-23-2009 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DeathtotheSwiss (Post 2734745)
Another slow bitter old man with 20-minute long promos. I hope he feuds with HHH!

Normally with any other vet who's "slow, bitter, old" that has shown up 23980930932409238 times i would say the same thing.

But because this is Bret "The Hitman" Hart, i am going to ask kindly of you sir to shut the fuck up.

screech 09-23-2009 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny Vegas (Post 2734785)
Normally with any other vet who's "slow, bitter, old" that has shown up 23980930932409238 times i would say the same thing.

But because this is Bret "The Hitman" Hart, i am going to ask kindly of you sir to shut the fuck up.

Vegas has it

Zen v.W.o. 09-23-2009 06:42 PM

oh my goodness...

parkmania 09-23-2009 07:03 PM

Only reason for him to come back is to manage the Hart Dynasty.


I appreciate what the man has done for the business, but with all his health issues, I really don't want to see him back in the ring wrestling. I'd not be able to enjoy the match because I'd be too worried something bad would happen.

Pardeep 619 09-23-2009 07:08 PM

Bret Hart will never EVER wrestle again

Londoner 09-23-2009 07:08 PM

Managing the hart dynasty would be a great idea.

Blue Demon 09-23-2009 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Pardeep 619 (Post 2734754)
Believe it when I see it


ron the dial 09-23-2009 07:12 PM

after watching bret just walk into a ring on saturday i can tell he's too beat up to go anymore, but i wouldn't want him to anyway. but returning to my television in some other capacity? i'm all about it.

Jura 09-23-2009 07:12 PM

Would love to see a Sharpshooter executed properly for once.

Pardeep 619 09-23-2009 07:13 PM

I think the occasional appearance to help The Hart Dynasty is fine, but managing them would not be. The Hart Dynasty need to come into their own without Bret Hart if they're gonna make it as big stars.

Londoner 09-23-2009 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Pardeep 619 (Post 2734852)
I think the occasional appearance to help The Hart Dynasty is fine, but managing them would not be. The Hart Dynasty need to come into their own without Bret Hart if they're gonna make it as big stars.

Why is that? On their own they might get lost in the shuffle, but with bret guiding them that could help if anything.

Zen v.W.o. 09-23-2009 07:19 PM

With Bret there it means they'll always have a bigger storyline. From then on, they should get over enough to the point where Bret can come and go.


Bret, bring Teddy along with you. Maybe you can guide him to acting in a way that might not ruin his pro career.

Pardeep 619 09-23-2009 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by TL (Post 2734854)
Why is that? On their own they might get lost in the shuffle, but with bret guiding them that could help if anything.

The occasional appearance here and there could be sufficient in making sure they don't get lost in the shuffle, for example, he could cut a promo about how the Hart Dynasty are the best wrestlers of this generation etc. But to manage them on a weekly basis will eventually prove ineffective if The Hart Dynasty can't back it up. He can't manage them for years on end either realistically as that will get stale and boring. Either way you look at it The Hart Dynasty need to make it on their own at some point and the occasional appearance is more effective than long term managing.

Pardeep 619 09-23-2009 07:26 PM

From a practical point of view, if he managed The Hart Dynasty then he would need to go on the road full time to do house shows. I personally can't see him doing that.

Londoner 09-23-2009 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Zen v.W.o. (Post 2734865)
With Bret there it means they'll always have a bigger storyline. From then on, they should get over enough to the point where Bret can come and go.


.

^ Totally agree.

XL 09-23-2009 07:31 PM

I'm just thinking out loud here, but with the rehash of Montreal at Breaking Point perhaps Hart could come in and make a play for the SmackDown General Manager's role. They've hinted that Vince was behind the idea already, perhaps Bret could come in and try to "clean up" SD!.

The only problem with that is that The Hart Dynasty are currently heel and Bret would come in as face which could prove an issue.

Nicky Fives 09-23-2009 07:44 PM

I love this..... I don't want to see him wrestle, but having him come back to TV would be great.... only thing is that if he does comeback, it has to be in Canada and completely unannounced and not spoiled by the internet, sort of like Vince/Cena did at Royal Rumble a few years ago..... I can only imagine the pop..... probably would be bigger than

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FourFifty 09-23-2009 08:08 PM

Sounds like somebody needs a paycheck.

XL 09-23-2009 08:56 PM

Perhaps 450, but a return from Hart means a damn sight more to the fans than a return from Hogan or Flair.

Ol Dirty Dastard 09-23-2009 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny Vegas (Post 2734785)
Normally with any other vet who's "slow, bitter, old" that has shown up 23980930932409238 times i would say the same thing.

But because this is Bret "The Hitman" Hart, i am going to ask kindly of you sir to shut the fuck up.


parkmania 09-23-2009 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XL (Post 2734958)
Perhaps 450, but a return from Hart means a damn sight more to the fans than another return from Hogan or Flair.

Fixed.

Ol Dirty Dastard 09-23-2009 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pardeep 619 (Post 2734852)
I think the occasional appearance to help The Hart Dynasty is fine, but managing them would not be. The Hart Dynasty need to come into their own without Bret Hart if they're gonna make it as big stars.

Getting a rub from the Bretman would only help.

Droford 09-23-2009 09:44 PM

I would love to see him come back only to have Vince screw him over again for old time's sake somehow.

Tazz Dan 09-23-2009 09:57 PM

Yeah, not gunna lie. It would make for great TV. But I agree, I'll believe it when I see it.

Seth82 09-23-2009 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Tazz Dan (Post 2735045)
Yeah, not gunna lie. It would make for great TV. But I agree, I'll believe it when I see it.

agreed

It'd be friggin awesome to see him on a WWE tv program once again

Can you imagine the pop he'd get... Damn

Jura 09-23-2009 11:03 PM

Sadly, if I recall, the WWE fans suck nowadays. Back then they would constantly be on their feet cheering and making noise and when something big happened they would have orgasms after orgasms after orgasms. Now most of the time you would see them just sitting down and just watching instead of cheering. Would be a big pop but with the combination of Bret being out of the business for a very long time plus the sucky fans it wouldn't be as big as it could be.

Ol Dirty Dastard 09-23-2009 11:18 PM

If he was re introduced in Canada, wherever it was, the place would go buckshit.

Splaya 09-24-2009 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by XL (Post 2734889)
I'm just thinking out loud here, but with the rehash of Montreal at Breaking Point perhaps Hart could come in and make a play for the SmackDown General Manager's role. They've hinted that Vince was behind the idea already, perhaps Bret could come in and try to "clean up" SD!.

The only problem with that is that The Hart Dynasty are currently heel and Bret would come in as face which could prove an issue.

Yeah but you can go either route with that. You can either have him have problems with them, "feud" with the Hart Dynasty and then either turn him heel after the nostalgia has worn off (example: Chris Jericho and his 2nd time back in the WWE) or turn them face.

DaVe 09-24-2009 01:04 AM

Sweeeeet.

Kami Raki 09-24-2009 01:53 AM

His return HAS to be in Canada and I doubt Bret would agree to anything else. Either in Calgary or Montreal.

Dave Youell 09-24-2009 04:06 AM

I'm sorry but Bret managing the Hart Foundation would be a massive step down for what would be a huge comeback (IF it were to happen, I still have my doubts)

Even though he night not EVER WRESTLE AGAIN, I can still see him doing a street fight match or something maybe. You know, something that doesn't requite mass amounts of conditioning etc.

Indifferent Clox 09-24-2009 05:26 AM

First Pavement now hart. :-)

The MAC 09-24-2009 07:36 AM

if bret hart comes out in montreal and punches out DX then Vince. The entire wrestling world will MARK THE FUCK OUT!

Londoner 09-24-2009 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by The MAC (Post 2735709)
if bret hart comes out in montreal and punches out DX then Vince. The entire wrestling world will MARK THE FUCK OUT!

Vince's reply: Nah, gonna give hornswoggle/chavo more time.

Ok i'll stop the cheap shots now.

Pardeep 619 09-24-2009 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave Youell (Post 2735636)
I'm sorry but Bret managing the Hart Foundation would be a massive step down for what would be a huge comeback (IF it were to happen, I still have my doubts)

Even though he night not EVER WRESTLE AGAIN, I can still see him doing a street fight match or something maybe. You know, something that doesn't requite mass amounts of conditioning etc.

Legally Bret Hart can't wrestle again due to the payout he received from Lloyds of London for the career ending concussion. The only way around it would be if Bret or Vince paid back the money he received, but for a one shot deal I can't see Bret doing that, and on top of what Bret would want to earn, I can't see it being feasable financially for it to happen.

Don't get me wrong, I am a huge Bret Hart fan and would love to see him return. I'm just not going to get my hopes up unless something concrete happens.

The MAC 09-24-2009 08:33 AM

bret got $700000 from Lloyds. If vince paid off that then paid Bret 1.3 million. Thats $2million. They would make tons more than 2million with attendance, ppv, and bret merchandise

cenassoldier 09-24-2009 12:06 PM

i hope not,but if he comes back, fine.but i want to see it first

The MAC 09-24-2009 12:31 PM

cenasoldier you are now the target of my rage. Im going to hurt you to the point where you piss in your pants when you think of posting.

Indifferent Clox 09-24-2009 12:53 PM

the MAC =mackem? really?

Londoner 09-24-2009 01:05 PM

Please don't carry the 'who is the MAC' discussion over to here.

The MAC 09-24-2009 01:14 PM

does anyone know where bret was actually quoted saying all this? Or is this ryan cunt making shit up?

MrSpikeLee 09-24-2009 03:08 PM

In all honsty, I really think Bret shouldn't return.

Because at the end of the day, he said
he'd never ever wrestle or even step foot
in that company, Vince screwed him over twice...

Survivor Series, and The Video Footage Library....

But can you imagine Bret Hart vs John Cena as a main event
at a wrestlemania??? I'd pay too see that.

CSL 09-24-2009 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TL (Post 2735985)
Please don't carry the 'who is the MAC' discussion over to here.

There is no stopping the epidemic

ARE YOU HAPPY THE MAC?!

Londoner 09-24-2009 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSLi Manning (Post 2736180)
There is no stopping the epidemic

ARE YOU HAPPY THE MAC?!

I bet its diesel mac.

GD 09-24-2009 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mogadishu (Post 2734730)
If the WWE made a special trip to Calgary, where Bret would be the guest host for RAW, I wonder if Bret would be able to out-pop Hogan's reaction in Montreal? (the RAW after Wrestlemania 18).

Hey Man I agree there. :naughty:

ministrychick77 09-24-2009 03:49 PM

if bret came back, i'd watch.
just to hope he fell off the rampway and re-cracked his head open.


i'd literally be ROFLMAO

cenassoldier 09-24-2009 03:54 PM

it doesn't matter if he comes back or not.but it's strange.most of the veterans have retired and many years they comes back to the ring.think they all needed money.

Zen v.W.o. 09-24-2009 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ministrychick77 (Post 2736219)
if bret came back, i'd watch.
just to hope he fell off the rampway and re-cracked his head open.


i'd literally be ROFLMAO

wtf?? I should fucking spank you.

GD 09-24-2009 05:15 PM

I would so totally pee in my pants.

FourFifty 09-24-2009 05:34 PM

He should return with a Kerwin White gimmick. His theme could be "Ain't That A Kick In The Head."

Johnny Vegas 09-24-2009 08:04 PM

If Bret were to do just one return, whether in Montreal or in the States, i would love it. I really don't want him to manage because if people are saying that he's in bad shape, i don't want to see TOO much of him. Idk, idk what i want. All i know is tbh i always imagine that one guitar string going off and the crowd going fucking nuts.

Anybody Thrilla 09-25-2009 02:23 AM

That same 'guitar string' goes off every time The Hart Dynasty has a match on SmackDOWN!, so I bet it would take a second for people to realize that it was actually Bret.

Also, this NEEDS to happen. He's the best ever and I'll mark out like a four year old for Cena.

DaveBrawl 09-25-2009 10:26 AM

As will I Thrilla. As will I.

The MAC 09-25-2009 11:10 AM

Again, can anyone give actual reference for this article or is it just a rumour started by Ryan Clark? This "bret at wm" or "undertaker retiring" articles are sensational without a credible source.

Gertner 09-25-2009 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by cenassoldier (Post 2736224)
it doesn't matter if he comes back or not.but it's strange.most of the veterans have retired and many years they comes back to the ring.think they all needed money.

Nobody cares what you think you fat ugly hog.

Savio 09-25-2009 12:39 PM

I hope they pencil in bret to beat vince in a street fight then screw him again

blake639raw 09-25-2009 03:27 PM

In a perfect world, Bret & Shawn could have one last match against each other at WrestleMania 26. It would be both of their last matches. I would have Bret finally get the clean win by submission. After the match, they would shake hands and hug to close the show, finally adding closure to the issue, and a fitting end to both of their careers....


However, this is the real world, and with Bret having a stroke, there is practically no chance of him wrestling again. I would love to see him back again, but I'll believe it when I see it.

Testicle 09-25-2009 03:32 PM

Bret can't wrestle anymore, its been 10 years since he has retired (man, doesn't seem that long) and he has had a stroke.

He could be a GM type or a manager, and I don't think the manager role does him justice. Unless he is going to have a major role he shouldn't get involved.

The MAC 09-25-2009 05:20 PM

lol..bret just called hogan a SHITBAG..SHITBAG.ROTFLMFAO

Mogadishu 09-26-2009 03:40 AM

Bret is in absolutely no condition to wrestle. However - I think it would be awesome if he guest hosted RAW in the not-so-distant future. Have him guest host RAW the next time the WWE goes to Calgary. I think the pop that Bret would receive in Calgary, would rival that of Hogan's pop the night after Wrestlemania in Montreal.

Maybe it's crazy thinking on my part, but I actually do wonder if some crazed fan would attack HBK if Bret/Shawn had a kayfabe'd confrontation in Calgary. It would be unfortunate, but I could definitely see it happening.

The MAC 09-26-2009 10:14 AM

they needs to create thel situation to warrant bret showing up.perhaps if shawn/dx turned heel and started to decimate the hart dynasty beating all of them into a bloody mess over and over. Then bret could show up with anvil and give shawn and hunter a beatdown of their lives.

Jura 09-27-2009 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by The MAC (Post 2739438)
they needs to create thel situation to warrant bret showing up.perhaps if shawn/dx turned heel and started to decimate the hart dynasty beating all of them into a bloody mess over and over. Then bret could show up with anvil and give shawn and hunter a beatdown of their lives.

No, they're gonna keep selling DX shit to the kiddies.

Mr. Nerfect 09-28-2009 09:57 AM

This would be awesome, but I'm not going to get my hopes up.

If Bret were to return, the only logical thing for him to do is to interact with The Hart Dynasty in some fashion. In my ideal world, Bret would return as a Guest Host of RAW, and then book D-Generation X vs. The Hart Dynasty as the main event. Triple H, however, is found beaten and bloody in the back, and Hart then walks up to HBK with a sly smile on his face and says that HBK will face to face David Hart Smith & Tyson Kidd alone.

Shawn Michaels then wrestles them to the best of his ability (in what would no doubt be one of the more entertaining Handicap Matches in recent memory), but they set the pace, dominate Shawn, and then hit a stream of finishing moves, before finishing him off with a Hart Attack. After the match, DH Smith, TJ Kidd and Natalya all start kicking the crap out of HBK. Bret Hart then walks down to the ring, and puts HBK in a Sharpshooter for old time's sake.

Bret can then tell us all to watch SmackDown!, because The Hart Dynasty is taking over there. Then if Bret does want a weekly job, while I wouldn't call him The Hart Dynasty's "manager," he can appear on-air in an associated role with them. He'd be their "trainer" and "coach."

Maybe DX could even win the Unified WWE Tag Team Championship, and then The Hart Dynasty could challenge them and even win the belts? The WWE are pretty desperate to create new stars, and David Hart Smith is 22 years old and already very good; while Tyson Kidd is also young and very talented. Why not go with them?

The MAC 09-28-2009 12:16 PM

noid thats a dumb idea cus it would turn bret heel. It would be a waste of the biggest comeback since lazarus rose from the dead

CSL 09-28-2009 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Savior (Post 2738198)
I hope they pencil in bret to beat vince in a street fight then screw him again

As much as I love Bret Hart, that would be the funniest thing of all time. I can picture Trips and Vince almost crying laughing whilst planning it.

Loose Cannon 09-28-2009 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Savior (Post 2738198)
I hope they pencil in bret to beat vince in a street fight then screw him again

LOL. Tremendous.

only if Buff Bagwell appears on camera and goes "WE GOT HIM AGAIN" like he did after the Finger poke of doom to Goldberg :lol:

The MAC 09-28-2009 04:35 PM

if that were to happen in canada the riot that ensues will end the lives of vince, shawn and hhh.

thedamndest 09-28-2009 04:40 PM

8-year-olds tend to tucker out pretty quickly in a riot.

Loose Cannon 09-28-2009 04:46 PM

they should do it in Calgary

Gerard 09-28-2009 04:59 PM

It actually sounds convincing to an extent especially when they mentioned the mcmahon vs god thing, i remember wwe.com had some last minute update of mcmahon having an "ephinany" and things being changed for the match.

The Mackem 09-29-2009 11:26 AM

I think you have a Michaels/Hart altercation that results in the near death of both. The Undertaker comes down and says they are both dead in his eyes and makes a Legacy (representing Michaels) versus Hart Dynasty (Bret Hart) tag match at the PPV. This of course leads to Hardcore Holly returning costing Cody Rhodes the match and infuriating Shawn Michaels. Hart says something like he didn't care about the Montreal Screwjob and it was all an elaborate plot to help Holly's career. He leaves but not before giving Holly his glasses in the ultimate sign of respect. This of course leads to Michaels retirement at WM match with Holly against an Undertaker sanctioned to fight Shawn Michaels. Holly wins but Michaels shows respect and effectively passes the torch. Michaels uses half of the following Raw to put over how much of an influence Holly was on his life.

That's the logical angle anyway but you know how the crazy WWE works.

Loose Cannon 09-29-2009 12:50 PM

LOL the glasses

The MAC 09-29-2009 02:28 PM

Then shannon moore comes out and end the undertakers wm streak :shifty:

The MAC 10-01-2009 01:21 PM

jR keeps blogging about bret and its not this "bret and wwe will probably never happen" type comments anymore. I have a feeling we could see a short program where bret gets his revenge and apology from WWe. Also a proper farewell speech

Xero 10-01-2009 01:27 PM

In reality, I can't see him doing anything related to the screw job or Michaels. Anything else is fair game, though.

Sixx 10-01-2009 04:36 PM

It'd be funny if it turned out he only wants to get back to get revenge. Like coming to a live show and ruining it by shooting on Vince and maybe legitly attacking HBK.

Sixx 10-01-2009 04:37 PM

And judging how psycho he is these days, that is a possibility.

Xero 10-01-2009 05:59 PM

It'd be hilarious if he cut a promo about how everything was a work and that everyone who believed it were a bunch of marks.

This would have been amazing in Montreal.


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