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GD 09-24-2009 03:49 PM

Ken Anderson's blaming Randy privately
 
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Ken Anderson (former WWE star Mr. Kennedy) has continued to privately blame Randy Orton for his release from WWE. Anderson had actually hinted this in some recent interviews, but has never fully come out and said it.

It should be noted that both Anderson and Orton were thought of by many wrestlers as being good friends and he was said to be very unhappy about the whole situation since his wife and Orton’s wife were good friends as well. Many people close to the situation didn’t believe Orton had anything to do with Anderson’s firing, although the timeline of events seem to match up. This includes Kennedy dropping Orton on his bad shoulder during his first match back on Raw and Orton giving Anderson a big talk backstage afterwards that everyone was aware of. Then, a few days later, Anderson was released by the company.

This is of course the timeline that Anderson has been spelling out and discussing in interviews and why he feels this to be the case. Anderson did make it clear that Triple H often criticized his promos for being “too comedic for a main event” (which many find interesting considering Triple H’s involvement with DX). One thing that is clear is that he had some major heat on him within WWE over the public interviews about steroids (which he later tested positive for) and the general feeling is that the situation with Orton was the last straw of sorts. Plus, keep in mind when all of this went down during the “Denver Dabacle” week in what many described as a time where a lot of decisions made weren’t that rational.
I really wish they could just bring him back and stuff.:-\

Sixx 09-24-2009 03:51 PM

Hm, I actually kind of agree with him.

cenassoldier 09-24-2009 03:59 PM

me too, but what is the name of his wife?
i know that randy orton is married in 2007 with a girl named samantha?

Sixx 09-24-2009 04:00 PM

How is that even important?

Read a tabloid or two, bitch.

Triple Naitch 09-24-2009 04:01 PM

Pamela

GD 09-24-2009 04:02 PM

I would totally do her.

GD 09-24-2009 04:03 PM

Pamela...Kamela man I am getting Horny. :P

cenassoldier 09-24-2009 04:04 PM

was just wondering.

GD 09-24-2009 04:04 PM

Whoa! back to the topic.

cenassoldier 09-24-2009 04:05 PM

yes, agreed

GD 09-24-2009 04:06 PM

IMO, Ken is a complete WWE package. There is no way he will achieve the WWE level of stardom even though if he has multiple reigns as the TNA Champion.

Supreme Olajuwon 09-24-2009 04:08 PM

The height of WWE's popularity came when Rock, Austin, Foley and Triple H were all cutting comedic promos. Fuck off, Paul.

GD 09-24-2009 04:13 PM

Agreed.

Mr. Nerfect 09-24-2009 04:43 PM

Randy Orton seems to be a bit of a dick at times. Didn't get get Eugene another shot in the WWE, and then bitch about how out of shape he was? It wouldn't surprise me if Orton was behind Mr. Kennedy's release from the WWE. Kennedy was a good talent -- solid in the ring and on the mic. He had that extra charisma factor, too. If he had stuck around, I'd have liked to have seen him win the WWE Title this year, just to freshen things up.

Triple H often says stuff that contradicts what he is doing. I wonder if he just talks a lot of shit to be ironic or whatever, or if he is just a dick. I can't remember the last time I heard a completely serious John Cena promo.

Afterlife 09-24-2009 04:45 PM

I would very happily welcome Mr. Kennedy back.

Mr. Nerfect 09-24-2009 04:50 PM

Even if they put him on ECW, where he could "be punished" for whatever it is he did, and maybe even get some credibility out of being the ECW Champion before he gets re-inserted to one of the other brands. Hell, the idea of Michael Hayes booking him right now sends shivers down my spine.

GD 09-24-2009 04:53 PM

A heelish Kennedy is what I would love to see.

Afterlife 09-24-2009 04:55 PM

Mr. Kennedy's surprise return at the Royal Rumble. He is eliminated, but he's the last member of the *surprise* ECW roster in the match. Therefore, he gets an ECW title match at Mania.

screech 09-24-2009 05:06 PM

I definitely would love to see him back. I wouldn't even mind if he re-debuted on ECW, since I always watch (and enjoy) the show. I have been saying he should be World Champion for a while now. Shame politics [seemingly] ruined his chances.

Also, I agree with

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Originally Posted by Supreme Olajuwon (Post 2736448)
The height of WWE's popularity came when Rock, Austin, Foley and Triple H were all cutting comedic promos. Fuck off, Paul.

and

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Originally Posted by Guru Dave (Post 2736439)
IMO, Ken is a complete WWE package. There is no way he will achieve the WWE level of stardom even though if he has multiple reigns as the TNA Champion.


addy2hotty 09-24-2009 06:03 PM

He'll be back.

Kami Raki 09-24-2009 06:08 PM

Even so, I wonder why everyone says he's dangerous in the ring.

Cool King 09-24-2009 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Afterlife (Post 2736580)
Mr. Kennedy's surprise return at the Royal Rumble. He is eliminated, but he's the last member of the *surprise* ECW roster in the match. Therefore, he gets an ECW title match at Mania.

That sounds good, but only if he came back as a heel. I could never get into Kennedy as a face and to me, he was much better as a heel. :-\

Sure, at the Royal Rumble he comes back as a face, but maybe make him attack a face ECW Champion thus, making him heel.

Nicky Fives 09-24-2009 06:40 PM

He won't be back..... and I love the Gina Carano sig :drool:

Johnny Vegas 09-24-2009 06:45 PM

I love Jeff Hardy to death, but as many chances as he has received, Kennedy should be a no-brainer.

thedamndest 09-24-2009 07:17 PM

He was great several years ago. But between the inconsistent booking, injuries, and suspension, I don't care if he never sets foot in a WWE ring again. Kennedy is still a relative rookie compared to many others on the roster. You only get so many times to come in and tell us THIS time you're going to wow us.

DrA 09-24-2009 07:50 PM

Mr. Kennedy seemed like some no name wrestler that you would see on Velocity. He was loud and flamboyant, but there was no substance to what he said. He's one of those guys that can only do well if the rest of the roster is really good. A filler wrestler.

Ol Dirty Dastard 09-24-2009 07:55 PM

If he's blaming Orton privately shouldn't we not know about it?

DrA 09-24-2009 07:56 PM

Actually I kind of take that back. I am trying to imagine what it would be like if The Rock and Mr. Kennedy had a feud eleven years ago, with Mr. Kennedy going blah blah blah on his custom microphone and with The Rock being at the announce table mocking how much he is talking even though Kennedy can't hear him. That would have been some good stuff.

abec 09-24-2009 07:57 PM

I'd rather watch Fraiser than hear Mr Boringdy on the mic. Christ....... Christ.

Ol Dirty Dastard 09-24-2009 08:24 PM

Mr. Boringdy? dude... really?

Indifferent Clox 09-24-2009 08:26 PM

Fraiser is fucking awesome.

CSL 09-24-2009 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Gorgeous Dale Newstead (Post 2736989)
Mr. Boringdy? dude... really?

I believe Ken Blanderson was the name he was looking for

Ol Dirty Dastard 09-24-2009 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by CSLi Manning (Post 2737106)
I believe Ken Blanderson was the name he was looking for

I can deal with Ken Blanderson.

Skippord 09-24-2009 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by abec (Post 2736944)
I'd rather watch Fraiser than hear Mr Boringdy on the mic. Christ....... Christ.

Frasier is glorious

DAMN iNATOR 09-24-2009 10:27 PM

I honestly think Kennedy didn't really get a fair shake, and that he deserves to get another chance, as it seems obvious to me that either RAW or SmackDown! (probably RAW more, though) could use a guy like him, especially given how relatively weak the main event scene on RAW is. I mean, with his last return I was honestly hoping he'd get beyond the glass ceiling, but he didn't and it just seems like WWE were too easily content to let go of a tremendous talent just from one mistake in particular, and perhaps Orton's backstage string-pulling, dunno.

In conclusion:
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BigDaddyCool 09-24-2009 10:42 PM

Mr. Kennedy is god gift to nothing. He is boring, bland, and medicore at best. He isn't big enough to be a threat in the ring, he isn't entertaining enough to be special on the mic. All he did was say his name twice and use a special drop down mic. Take away the gimmick mic and the double name, he had nothing special.

Afterlife 09-24-2009 10:56 PM

Take away anyone's gimmick and they're just a guy. Unless you're a giant like Khali, which is a gimmick in and of itself.

DAMN iNATOR 09-24-2009 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool (Post 2737248)
Mr. Kennedy is god gift to nothing. He is boring, bland, and medicore at best. He isn't big enough to be a threat in the ring, he isn't entertaining enough to be special on the mic. All he did was say his name twice and use a special drop down mic. Take away the gimmick mic and the double name, he had nothing special.

Apparently he was good enough to at least have held the U.S. Championship, even if it was only once, and had he not gotten injured following Mania 23, he probably would have gone on to capture WWE or World Heavyweight Championship gold, so let's not forget those two important points regarding Kennedy's level of skill and talent.

Anybody Thrilla 09-25-2009 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Supreme Olajuwon (Post 2736448)
The height of WWE's popularity came when Rock, Austin, Foley and Triple H were all cutting comedic promos. Fuck off, Paul.

That was actually the only thing that jumped out at me in that whole article. Triple H is a hater.

Emperor Smeat 09-25-2009 02:16 AM

Kennedy defiantly had potential to be a huge star, especially with him in contact with Stone Cold to get tips and help on how to be better. His main problem was injuries at the worst times possible and being caught up in the steroids controversy.

His push with the Money in the Bank and then loosing it from an injury that was less severe than in reality probably was the turning point in killing his momentum as a rising star.

Verbose Minch 09-25-2009 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by abec (Post 2736944)
I'd rather watch Fraiser than hear Mr Boringdy on the mic. Christ....... Christ.

Yeah, fuck intelligent humor!

Mogadishu 09-26-2009 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Smelly Meatball (Post 2737805)
Kennedy defiantly had potential to be a huge star, especially with him in contact with Stone Cold to get tips and help on how to be better. His main problem was injuries at the worst times possible and being caught up in the steroids controversy.

His push with the Money in the Bank and then loosing it from an injury that was less severe than in reality probably was the turning point in killing his momentum as a rising star.

I agree with this.

Another thing I'd like to add is this: I believe that the WWE turned Kennedy into a face WAY too prematurely. I thought Kennedy did a great job as a heel during his feud with Flair. Unfortunately, this is a mistake that the WWE have continuously made throughout the years. Instead of taking a GREAT heel and making him an even GREATER heel (to the point where the fans absolutely love the character which can then lead to a huge face turn somewhere down the road), the WWE 'blows their load' and turns said wrestler into a lukewarm face. Time and time again, the WWE have done this since 2001.

-Kurt Angle
-Eddie Guerrero
-Brock Lesnar
-Randy Orton
-Santino Marella
-Ken Kennedy

etc., etc. Just too many examples.

DaVe 09-26-2009 04:19 AM

I don't think an absolute nothing like Santino should be on the same list as the rest of those you mentioned. Furthermore, I disagree with your list.

Skippord 09-26-2009 04:30 AM

yeah lol Santino on that list is a bit odd

Mr. Nerfect 09-27-2009 08:33 AM

I would not mind seeing Kennedy on SmackDown!, fully patriotic to the brand, cutting promos about how RAW is a shithouse and he's going to take them down. Could be entertaining, at least.

Something to think about in reference to Kennedy: How many feuds did the guy actually have? I mean proper feuds. He had his stuff with Shawn Michaels, and I think he and MVP were teaming against Kane & The Undertaker regularly at one point. He also had tension with Finlay over him beating on Hornswoggle. But really, Kennedy was never involved in a really personal program with anyone. I find that really odd.

Verbose Minch 09-27-2009 02:32 PM

Did he not have a big feud with Undertaker?

DAMN iNATOR 09-27-2009 02:39 PM

He had a one-off pay-per-view match with 'Taker because he complained of being bored with SmackDown! and wanting to move (9/8/6 ep. of SD! to be specific), which led to Teddy making a match for No Mercy between Kennedy and Undertaker but that was it, unless you count him teaming with M.V.P. to face the Kane and Undertaker in a series of tag matches. Other than that, there was a First Blood match that arose out of that between the two at Survivor Series '06.

Not much of a "feud", if you ask me.

Triple Naitch 09-27-2009 02:43 PM

Didn't they have a Last Ride match?

DAMN iNATOR 09-27-2009 02:45 PM

Yeah. Armageddon '06.

But see, I thought the program between the two was "MEH" at best...judge for yourselves though.

No Mercy 2006 - Mr. Kennedy v. The Undertaker
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DAMN iNATOR 09-27-2009 02:55 PM

Armageddon 2006 - Mr. Kennedy vs. The Undertaker - Last Ride Match
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Triple Naitch 09-27-2009 03:06 PM

Still counts as a long running feud.

redoneja 09-27-2009 08:21 PM

Not gonna lie, really have not given a shit about Mr. Kennedy for at least 2 years now. I know wrestling is full of nonsensical things, but I really got overwhelmingly sick of his promos and the saying of his name twice. Combined with the fact that he seemed to have a new finisher every 5.3 weeks and that, when he finally did stick with one, it looked weak as shit.

So yea, unless he shows up somewhere and shows tremendous improvement, I wouldn't care if I ever saw him wrestle again.

DAMN iNATOR 09-27-2009 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by redoneja (Post 2741467)
Not gonna lie, really have not given a shit about Mr. Kennedy for at least 2 years now. I know wrestling is full of nonsensical things, but I really got overwhelmingly sick of his promos and the saying of his name twice. Combined with the fact that he seemed to have a new finisher every 5.3 weeks and that, when he finally did stick with one, it looked weak as shit.

So yea, unless he shows up somewhere and shows tremendous improvement, I wouldn't care if I ever saw him wrestle again.

You exaggerated terribly about Kennedy's finishing maneuvers. On SD! and up until his injury on RAW, Kennedy only used the Kenton Bomb and the Green Bay (or Pepsi) Plunge, originally using a steamroller like maneuver with the other guy on his shoulders, from the top rope, later switched to being a ground maneuver which was much less impressive. He then switched to the Mic Check, which I hated because to me it just seemed lazy. I mean, compare the Mic Check to former WWE star Muhammad Hassan's Flatliner finisher...there's virtually NO DIFFERENCE!

Also, Kennedy's promos were gold.

Xero 09-27-2009 11:21 PM

....ANDERSON!

/thread

redoneja 09-28-2009 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by DAMN iNATOR (Post 2741674)
You exaggerated terribly about Kennedy's finishing maneuvers. On SD! and up until his injury on RAW, Kennedy only used the Kenton Bomb and the Green Bay (or Pepsi) Plunge, originally using a steamroller like maneuver with the other guy on his shoulders, from the top rope, later switched to being a ground maneuver which was much less impressive. He then switched to the Mic Check, which I hated because to me it just seemed lazy. I mean, compare the Mic Check to former WWE star Muhammad Hassan's Flatliner finisher...there's virtually NO DIFFERENCE!

Also, Kennedy's promos were gold.


Obviously I was exaggerating. And the Mic Check is still weak.

Mr. Nerfect 09-28-2009 02:06 AM

Mr. Kennedy should have been allowed to do the Kenton Bomb. :y:

Skippord 09-28-2009 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by DAMN iNATOR (Post 2741674)
You exaggerated terribly about Kennedy's finishing maneuvers. On SD! and up until his injury on RAW, Kennedy only used the Kenton Bomb and the Green Bay (or Pepsi) Plunge, originally using a steamroller like maneuver with the other guy on his shoulders, from the top rope, later switched to being a ground maneuver which was much less impressive. He then switched to the Mic Check, which I hated because to me it just seemed lazy. I mean, compare the Mic Check to former WWE star Muhammad Hassan's Flatliner finisher...there's virtually NO DIFFERENCE!

Also, Kennedy's promos were gold.

Pepsi Plunge?

pretty sure that wasn't Kennedy

.44 Magdalene 09-28-2009 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Xero (Post 2741676)
....ANDERSON!

/thread

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DAMN iNATOR 09-28-2009 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Skippord (Post 2742228)
Pepsi Plunge?

pretty sure that wasn't Kennedy

Believe it or not, that was the alternate name to the Green Bay Plunge, they just didn't call it that on television as it would've sounded moronic.

Afterlife 09-28-2009 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by DAMN iNATOR (Post 2742291)
Believe it or not, that was the alternate name to the Green Bay Plunge, they just didn't call it that on television as it would've sounded moronic.

I thought the Pepsi Plunge was a top rope Pedigree.

Xero 09-28-2009 07:11 AM

It is. Have no idea what the fuck Daminator is talking about.

Mr. Nerfect 09-28-2009 08:22 AM

Yeah, I'm pretty sure CM Punk did the Pepsi Plunge, which was a Top Rope Pedigree. I'd love to see him bust that out against Shawn Michaels if they ever feud. Or even against Triple H as a standing variant (aka, just a Pedigree he calls "The Pepsi Plunge").

The Green Bay Plunge was called the Lambeau Leap early in his WWE stint, and was also called JFK ("Just Finished by Kennedy").

screech 09-28-2009 05:07 PM

Good one, DAMN iNATOR

DarKCentaur 09-28-2009 05:43 PM

That chair shot Undertaker gave Kennedy at the end of that First Blood Match is one of the sickest shots I've ever seen.

Mr. Nerfect 09-29-2009 08:53 AM

Kennedy would probably be very high on my "to re-hire list." Actually, I can't think of a better candidate off the top of my head right now.

Afterlife 09-29-2009 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by screech (Post 2742887)
Good one, DAMN iNATOR

This has me laughing really, really hard. I hope to God this becomes the next "shut up, taker707".


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