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Supreme Olajuwon 10-14-2009 01:14 PM

guys who left WWF and made it big in WCW
 
How many of these guys exist. We all the know the reverse with guys like Austin and Jericho who were underused in WCW and became huge for WWF, but how many went the opposite direction?

BigDaddyCool 10-14-2009 01:19 PM

Well Hogan, Hall, and Nash all had their careers revitalized. Jeff Jarrett finally got "big" in WCW.

Ermaximus 10-14-2009 01:21 PM

Sting?

Supreme Olajuwon 10-14-2009 01:24 PM

Hogan Hall and Nash weren't underused in WWF though. I'm talking guys that WWF missed the boat on.

Storer50 10-14-2009 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ermaximus (Post 2771105)
Sting?

Um, no

Ermaximus 10-14-2009 01:37 PM

You know what Supreme, this is really difficult.

Supreme Olajuwon 10-14-2009 01:41 PM

That's what I'm saying. I can't think of any. There's gotta be some though

Supreme Olajuwon 10-14-2009 01:42 PM

Jarrett is one.

Ermaximus 10-14-2009 01:43 PM

Ahmed Johnson....:shifty:

BigDaddyCool 10-14-2009 01:44 PM

I'm not sure they missed the boat on Jarrett, he didn't make it all that big in WCW, sure he was in mainevents, but he didn't belong there.

DrA 10-14-2009 01:50 PM

Jeff Jarrett ruined WCW for me. Here you have this guy who was barely an upper-mid carder in the WWF that switches over to WCW and soon becomes the WCW champion. It made WCW look weak.

kareru 10-14-2009 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrA (Post 2771131)
Jeff Jarrett ruined WCW for me. Here you have this guy who was barely an upper-mid carder in the WWF that switches over to WCW and soon becomes the WCW champion. It made WCW look weak.

well we all know that jarrett was russo's boy

Rammsteinmad 10-14-2009 02:18 PM

Shawn Stasiak?

I mean, he wasn't 'big', but he was always involved in some big (though usually lame) storyline.

Godfather4Life 10-14-2009 02:31 PM

on the flip side HHH made it big in WWF after WCW let him go..same for Austin, The Undertaker and others shows you how much poor judgment wcw had

The Jayman 10-14-2009 03:08 PM

Jarrett is the only one I can think of also. he went from a wwf nobody to a wcw big nobody

Supreme Olajuwon 10-14-2009 03:16 PM

I guess Konnan is another one.

BigDaddyCool 10-14-2009 03:19 PM

Yeah...I can see Konnan counting.

BigDaddyCool 10-14-2009 03:28 PM

So you just posted a 1/3 of your entire posts in this thread? Fuck off.

BigDaddyCool 10-14-2009 03:32 PM

No you don't.

Ermaximus 10-14-2009 03:35 PM

Start by jumping off your roof.

Supreme Olajuwon 10-14-2009 03:37 PM

Wow calm down dickheads.

Hanso Amore 10-14-2009 03:37 PM

I hate people who take time to set their avatar before they even get 10 posts

Supreme Olajuwon 10-14-2009 03:37 PM

Raven was underused in the WWF then went to ECW and then went to WCW where he got a pretty decent push.

Supreme Olajuwon 10-14-2009 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hanso (Post 2771271)
I hate people who take time to set their avatar before they even get 10 posts

Why?

DaveBrawl 10-14-2009 03:38 PM

Hey some of us did it when we started the account, and still use the board defaults. :mad:

redoneja 10-14-2009 03:41 PM

Barry Windham

Ermaximus 10-14-2009 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supreme Olajuwon (Post 2771272)
Raven was underused in the WWF then went to ECW and then went to WCW where he got a pretty decent push.

I thought he was in ECW first then WCW and then WWE?

Ermaximus 10-14-2009 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redoneja (Post 2771277)
Barry Windham

:rofl: I think we have a winner!

DaveBrawl 10-14-2009 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveBrawl83 (Post 2771274)
Hey some of us did it when we started the account, and still use the board defaults. :mad:

Actually upon further review I don't think the board defaults are still around. I may be the only one that uses them anyway.

Supreme Olajuwon 10-14-2009 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ermaximus (Post 2771280)
I thought he was in ECW first then WCW and then WWE?

Actually he started in WCW as Scotty Flamingo, then went to WWF where he was Johnny Polo where he mostly managed/commentated, then he went to ECW where he became Raven, then went back to WCW as Raven, then back to ECW, then to WWF, then to TNA

Ermaximus 10-14-2009 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supreme Olajuwon (Post 2771295)
Actually he started in WCW as Scotty Flamingo, then went to WWF where he was Johnny Polo where he mostly managed/commentated, then he went to ECW where he became Raven, then went back to WCW as Raven, then back to ECW, then to WWF, then to TNA

So basically Raven was like an STD?

Supreme Olajuwon 10-14-2009 04:03 PM

A badass STD, yes.

redoneja 10-14-2009 04:13 PM

Also, Kevin Sullivan. Although, as with Barry Windham, I don't know what your timeframe is regarding this question. If it's the mid 90s then scratch these two off

Bubba 10-14-2009 04:32 PM

Virgil?

Bubba 10-14-2009 04:33 PM

Oh and BigDaddyCool is a homo, fact!

Franchisedone 10-14-2009 05:03 PM

I mostly just look and see what everyone has posted and never post myself...but this is a tough thread...because most of the wrestlers have always bounced back and forth between the two...just take the andersons, the flairs and other names...there are numorous names considering Hall and nash where both in the WCW before they went to the WWF its hard to say...maybe im just rumbling on...but its really gonna just be hard to name anyone...

Skippord 10-14-2009 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supreme Olajuwon (Post 2771309)
A badass STD, yes.

BadasSTD

jaycool2k 10-14-2009 06:18 PM

Shane Douglas?

Swiss Ultimate 10-14-2009 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ermaximus (Post 2771268)
Start by jumping off your roof.

You thought Sting was in the WWF...

#1-norm-fan 10-14-2009 06:33 PM

Yeah I don't really think there are any. Even the ones mentioned here are only mentioned because people are trying too hard. There's no example of HHH or Austin or Taker. No one even remotely close.

And even for the people trying to say Hall and Nash getting their careers rejuvenated, if you remember, they were both misused by WCW before going to WWE and becoming stars in the first place.

Swiss Ultimate 10-14-2009 06:52 PM

Raven almost works...almost. Though he left WCW for the WWF when he was still Polo and then went to ECW and became Raven. Raven came to WCW and was used better than he had been by the WWF, this is true, but ECW made Raven.

Also, when Raven came to the WWF he immediately became misused.

Ol Dirty Dastard 10-14-2009 07:02 PM

ricky steamboat

thedamndest 10-14-2009 07:13 PM

HOLLA IF YA HEAR ME

Triple Naitch 10-14-2009 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thedamndest (Post 2771622)
HOLLA IF YA HEAR ME

Thed nailed it.

http://knotwork.tripod.com/confirmat...SteinerWWF.jpg

Hanso Amore 10-14-2009 09:33 PM

Windham was huge in the NWA. Doesnt count.

This is people who were nobodies then went to the WCW and became somebody....and there isnt much...since the WWE made stars and WCW stole them.

Hanso Amore 10-14-2009 09:35 PM

God. Steiner was a tag champ WCW/NWA before his WWF run.

Steamboat was a top 3 face in the NWA, went to the WWF and was a mid level guy, and went to WCW to be a top guy, so maybe, but he was WELL ESTABLISHED to say the least

Hanso Amore 10-14-2009 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaycool2k (Post 2771586)
Shane Douglas?

Was a nobody in WCW, Somebody in ECW, Nobody in the WWE, Somebody in ECW and then mid card in WCW.

Triple Naitch 10-14-2009 09:39 PM

Steiner was a tag champ. Not a star. WCW made him bigger than he was before.

Hanso Amore 10-14-2009 09:41 PM

I guess. I dunno. Steiner was a tag champ major face in WCW and was a major star in japan...

I guess its all semantics on the word star or big

Sixx 10-14-2009 09:41 PM

WCW was pretty scared of competition coming from WWF so they wouldn't just let a WWF midcarder make it big in their company. They only gave main event status to guys that already made it big in WWF.

WWF(or WWE if you please) on the other hand was already way above WCW when they got their wrestlers that are headlining right now, so there was nothing to worry about.

Scared in a meaning, WCW didn't want the WWF guys to look better than their own, and they probably thought a midcarder from rival company getting the WCW main title would make the WCW look weak.

McLegend 10-14-2009 09:50 PM

Paul Roma

Droford 10-14-2009 09:53 PM

Vince Russo

I mean, he was WCW champion for a week.

Sixx 10-14-2009 09:57 PM

DAVID ARQUETTE!

But he failed at life, not in WWF. Lemme think more.

Seth82 10-14-2009 09:59 PM

dustin rhodes perhaps?

he had a wwf run circa '90 and then left with dusty for wcw

Tazz Dan 10-14-2009 10:00 PM

Vince Russo

Tazz Dan 10-14-2009 10:01 PM

Fuck, I should have read page 2 before I made a sarcastic reply. "meh"

DaVe 10-15-2009 05:50 AM

Wow, look at the number of jackasses to some new guy. Flandando posts and 3 guys have a problem with that simple fact.

Fabien Barthez 10-15-2009 06:27 AM

I feel compelled to say Mick Foley.

The Mackem 10-15-2009 06:33 AM

I remember BDC making this topic not too long ago.

The Mackem 10-15-2009 06:35 AM

Ach no it was 'who do you actually credit WCW for making'.

http://www.tpww.net/forums/showthrea...&highlight=wcw

Cool King 10-15-2009 06:40 AM

DDP. See WrestleMania VI. :shifty:

Fabien Barthez 10-15-2009 06:55 AM

I think to be classified in this, you should have at least worked a match for WWF first.

The Mackem 10-15-2009 07:25 AM

Highlights exactly what WCW's problem was. They always had the talent but they always failed to keep hold of it, losing or undervaluing the likes of Austin, Jericho, Benoit, Guerrero etc. WWF once they knew they had a talent, they kept hold of it unless they financially could not. The only ex-WWF wrestlers in WCW at it's demise were Bam Bam Bigelow, Dustin Rhodes, Jeff Jarrett, Kevin Nash, Lex Luger, Rick Steiner, Road Warrior Animal, Scott Steiner, Shane Douglas, Shawn Stasiak and possibly a few others. Basically those that were always moving from company to company, those that had burnt bridges/had disputes at WWF, those still on big money contracts and those that were totally off WWF's radar. Out of the list only Jarrett and Steiner (who was huge at the time) were near the top of WCW.

At the same time WWF had Big Show, Jericho, Regal, Raven, Eddie Guerrero, Perry Saturn, Chris Benoit, The Undertaker, Ausin and Triple H appear at Wrestlemania 17 who were all 'lost' by WCW at one point or another.

The Mackem 10-15-2009 07:31 AM

Would you say WCW used Mang/Haku more than WWF? In his first run in the WWF he was a King and held the tag team titles. In WCW, although he only won the Hardcore title he did have some high profile matches and some even for the WCW Heavyweight title.

Fabien Barthez 10-15-2009 08:54 AM

Only in relation to how they presented TV.

Haku wrestled the majority of PPV's while he was at NY in the 80's. He wrestled a programme with Hogan for the title for a few months in the lateies.

Ermaximus 10-15-2009 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeathtotheSwiss (Post 2771589)
You thought Sting was in the WWF...

I seriously thought he was in the early days of his career. Shame on my mind for fucking my facts up. :(

Corndad 10-15-2009 10:51 PM

Maybe Scott Hall? He was getting big almost a Main Eventer in WWE but not quite. Went to WCW with the entire NWO angle and was thrust into all the Main Events.

Jannettyzilla 10-15-2009 11:33 PM

From a title standpoint, Rick Rude was bigger in WCW.

Sovereigntywillpr 10-17-2009 02:24 AM

fuck I was going to say rick rude, he went from big to bigger....

I can't think of many, Vader could have went back to WCW and gone right back to the main event any time up until the closing of the old WCW.

what about DDP and WM11, was he in the crowed or with Bam Bam or something? I Know they're friends?

Arnold HamNegger 10-17-2009 02:41 AM

I know Sid Eudy was a World Champion in WWF, but he got his biggest break in WCW.

Sixx 10-18-2009 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arnold HamNegger (Post 2775352)
I know Sid Eudy was a World Champion in WWF, but he got his biggest break in WCW.

He was in WCW before being in WWF.

Supreme Olajuwon 10-18-2009 09:36 PM

They don't have puns in Poland.

Sixx 10-18-2009 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supreme Olajuwon (Post 2777575)
They don't have puns in Poland.

We're still waiting for the electric razors, first.

Supreme Olajuwon 10-18-2009 09:44 PM

ok well the joke is that Sid's "biggest break" was his broken leg

biggest break has two meanings here

Sixx 10-18-2009 09:46 PM

Oooooooh

That is funny now.


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