Shogun wins the 205lbs title
 

There was no thread so fuck it.

They haven't announced it yet but it would be a total screwjob if he didn't.

48-47 to Machida. SCREWJOB

WHAT?!?!?!?!?! MACHIDA FUCKING WINS??

What the fuck is this shit? Is Vince Russo booking this?

It was 50-45 to Shogun. 49-46 AT WORST

what a fucking shambles, fuck.

There is no fucking way they legitimatly scored the fight like that.

Fuck it, Machida didn't win two rounds. Not even fucking close

I stand by the title of this thread. Shogun is the champion.

Pretty shocked at the decision to be honest. I've been around traditional martial arts more than MMA and this fight really reminded me of some karate v Muay Thai fights I've seen. I loved the fight, thought it was a tremendous stylistic and strategic chess match.

Still shocked at the decision though. Thought shogun won unanimously, split decision at worst.

THE BIGGEST FUCKING SCREWJOB I HAVE EVER SEEN

Shogun won every fucking round!!!!!!!

O M F G I cannot believe UFC WENT THIS FUCKING LOW!

This is unreal. I cant belive this happend.

Read a report that Shogun spat in Dana's face after the fight, destroyed the announcer's monitors and then spelled out STRIKEFORCE in the air to the fans in the arena.

I also stand by the title of this thread. Shogun is the new fucking champ. After watching that fight, the sheer possibility of someone saying Machida won makes my brain hurt.

LOL

I'll bet sherdog is shitting their fucking pants right now.

another thing, how come to johnson fight was allowed to go on despite the fact he was like 6lbs overweight? i mean ok if they still want to fight but it seems harsh that guy gets a loss on his record when fighting a guy twice the size of him.

UNTIL SHOGUN IS AWARDEDE THE LH CHAMPIONSHIP...I'M DONE!
 

I will never watch or even keep track of another UFC fight again. Good luck in Tipsters. I'm fucking done. For good. I cant follow a sport that is rigged. This shit right here is rigged.

How could it have been a split decision? That would have still meant some moron out there though Machida won.

Only 3 people in the world thought Machida won that fight.

NOBODY in the press row had it for Machida by the way. Not one single person.

Legit worst scoring since Lewis/Holyfield 1 and those judges were appointed by Don King!

Biggest robbery ever.

Is there going to be a press conference tonight? I really want to see what Dana says.

It's not their fault. Dana White was standing behind Shogun ready to put the belt on him.

The California State Athletic Commission appoints all referees and judges. They are to blame.

I pray to God that ESPN and Yahoo report it as the biggest robbery to ever be seen on PPV.

This is unbelievable.

even the stuff machida did throw didn't look like it caused much harm though. i mean i can hazard a guess which of them is going to wake up sorer in the morning.

I've never felt this way about a fight . I can't believe that just happend.

ESPN posted on the main page that "Rua decisions Machida, seizes title".

It was fixed. I stand behind that. It was fixed and i will never watch another UFC fight again. I'm done.

Oh shit! Did I spoil this fight for all you guys???


Sorry!

Machida seriously needs to vacate the title. It's the only way he's going to save face. Granted it's not his fault, but people are always going to call bullshit on that win.

It's not UFC or Dana's fault though, it's the fucking judges. The judges aren't employed by UFC, they're appointed by the state...

Unless you're implying that Dana paid them off, then... Well, that would be utter fucking bullshit, and Dana would pretty much go down in flames.

If Krispy fucking deletes this thread, I swear. Rob, rename this shit.

I'm not saying I see it as anything other than a unanimous decision. I'm saying that I thought, at worst, Shogun would win a split.

Fuck him.

i would love to hear the judges reasoning. i think they should be held accountable for it.

it was so weird though. like when they announced it was a unanimous decision i swear machida's head went down.

It did. And his jaw dropped when they said he won.

My fucking birthday has been ruined. I cant believe this just happend.

seriously feel so bad for shogun. like it cut to him right at the end having a bit of a head in hands/weepy moment in his locker room.

lol sherdog has so much traffic it's almost broken.

you'd think dana white would update his twatty twitter lark they keep banging on about the whole fucking time too.

Dana's probably trying to figure out how the hell to do damage control on this.

Exactly. He was shocked too. Just check the tape.

I wish Dana could get away with not paying Machida for the win.

This is fucking bullshit. I know where it leads. They'll have another rematch and somehow Machida will win and i'm sorry BUT THAT SHIT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE!

thats the thing. it's not even a fight i want to see again. it was pretty dull really but shogun had it. i was getting all geared up to wank myself silly over an anderson/shogun fight but no.

Everyone needs to take a breath.

Unfortunately, it was probably the first two rounds that decided the fight.

Those two rounds that were really close and because of the bullshit scoring, someone "has" to win. I wouldn't doubt that they went to Machida.

I actually gave Machida Round 3. I felt Shogun had Rounds 4 and 5. I would blame CSAC and the Judges.

Basically, Shogun won, but I can see how he didn't. And that pisses me off.

Oh a rematch? Great. Meanwhile Shogun gets a loss on his record, the losers share of the purse and no belt. The rematch won't draw shit either (as if this fight did) because Machida looked beatable.

Watch the fight, then comment.

No... Shogun won the first 2 rounds easily. You obviously didnt order the fight. Shogun dominated the first 4 rounds and probably won the last round.

BIGGEST....ROBBERY....IN LEGITAMENT SPORTS HISTOR....IF UFC IS EVEN CONSIDERING THEMSELVES AS A LEGITAMENT SPORT ANYMORE.

Shogun had that fight won. I'd say if Machida were to have won anything at all... I'd say 2 rounds at the most and that's being generous. But Shogun had the fight and should be the newly crowned light heavyweight champion.

Guess this builds for a "big rematch" tween the two sometime down the road.

Would love to see a rematch. Thought it was a great technical standup fight. Immense strategy by both, esp Shogun. Took away Lyoto's stance and power generation.

It's like Rob said, there is no "big rematch." The hype is dead because Rua took all the hype out of Machida. It's not like it was really a "close" fight. Furthermore, it wasn't that exciting either.

You're right. The judges (actually not sure about Doc Hamilton) had the first 3 rounds to Machida.

Blind cunts.

I'll comment now thank you very much.

If a fight is rigged, their has to be a reason its rigged, I don't need to see the fight to know that.

I've seen bad decisions before and I believe you guys when you say this is amongst the worst, but that doesn't mean the sport isn't legit.

it was a great technical fight but i think we know that the rematch isnt gonna be a whole lot different to this one, except that machida is now wiser to rua's gameplan.

Rua fought a magnificent fight. He found a way to exploit Machida's weaknesses and full on assault them. He neutralized his evasiveness and literaly took the legs out from under him. It's a sham that we aren't celebrating his genius right now.

Who seriously said it wasn't legit?


Don't tell people who to react either. That's what nazi's like Krispy bollocks do.

also, i think this fight was basically the MMA version of the first rocky film.

It wasn't rigged, you just got a situation where three judges made bad decision. If you watched the baseball playoffs their have been a lot of blown calls, that doesn't mean Major League Baseball is rigged. I trust that this was a terrible decision, but it's not a conspiricy, just guys making stupid decisions.

Step back from that ledge.

Maybe, but Machida would have to leave his entire life's training to counter Shogun. Machida's entire background is based on the shotokan style of hip and leg power generation. That's what he's trained in most prominently his whole life. It'd be a challenge for him to adopt a more conventional MMA style. Not impossible, but definitely hard for him.

You're right on one thing: I didn't order the fight. I watched it at Hooters.

I also drove all the way across town to my house, giving myself time to digest what I saw. I wouldn't doubt that they gave Machida Rounds 1, 2, and 3. Do I agree with that assessment? not necessarily.

You seem to be running on pure emotion at this point. I do want to restate the following...

That bit should be taken as a whole, and you'll see that I'm not arguing with you.

nah i just mean he knows shogun is going for leg kicks and body kicks. everyone else he's fought thus far has just been trying to knock him out and perhaps not giving him the proper respect, shogun threw him in that regard.

ROFL
and ROFL. Very fucking true tho
I heard he gave up a big chunk of his purse in exchange. Dude should be a middleweight at worst and light heavyweight at best.

After that fight, Machida better hope to god Randy Couture beats Brandon Vera because he has the perfect style to murder him and now it's been proven.

I'm not trying to be a Nazi, I'm just saying its not worth getting yourself all pissed about. I'm just trying to be the voice of reason.

If you guys want to be pissed be pissed.

Just watch the fight, you fucking dunce. Jesus christ.

Dude.. You're a fucking blind. Shogun owned Machida in every single aspect of MMA that they possibly went through. Kicks> Shogun. Punches > Shogun. Counters > Shogun. There was no part in the first 4 rounds that Machida won. None. If you continue to argue that there was, then i think you have some sort of mental retardation. That or you didnt actually watch the fight. Shogun dominated this fight. Machida didnt do anything to Shogun that would leave ANYBODY ( not payed off ) TO BELIEVE MACHIDA WON THE FIGHT!

That simple. You're wrong. You're so wrong that you need to delete your post and never be heard from again. Bye.

I gotcha. But IMO, the way Shogun fought that fight wasn't necessarily just the way to defeat Machida, it is the way to defeat the style. Like you said, Shogun threw him in that regard since no one else figured out how to combat Machida's karate and assumed they could simply MMA their way to victory.

to RP:

I'm not gonna reply to you any further until you get over your little bitch fit, which is what you are going through at this moment.

Remember Couture vs. Sylvia? Imagine if they gave Sylvia that decision.

I'm going through it because you're a punk ass bitch

Bisping vs Hamil decision on fucking crack

Fuck that. Just reply. This is meant to be fun.

Okay, everyone is a little miffed right now. You're not reading posts, and you're just making wild accusations.

I've agreed with everything everyone has said this far, except that the fight was rigged.

But I understand the anger, I'd be pissed too if I was a Shogun fan. The truth is I'm not a fan of either of these guys.

But I'm not going to fan the flames or try to douse them anymore, I'm just going to let you guys blow your stack and feel better for doing so.

I'll come back when everyone isn't so crazy.

Actually, just come back after you watch the fight. You're being stupid commenting on it without having seen it.

BREAKING NEWS

Dana says Shogun is getting an immediate rematch and he thought Shogun won.

I'd love someone that actually watched the fight live to tell me Shogun lost the fight. Cause you cant.

3 judges could.

Still cannot get over Shogun's strategy and execution. Holy fucking shit it was a thing of beauty. Yea, it was a shit decision but I'll manage to sleep at night. Not THAT emotionally invested in UFC.

But still. Tactical masterpiece. :'(

Yah. That tells me its rigged.

There was no point in the match were Machinda hurt him or even stunned him for that matter. Shogun outclassed him in ever aspect of the match. It was so fucking shocking when they said Machida won.

One last thing.

I never commented on the fight.

I commented on everyone's reaction.

Alright, just because Rob asked me.

1. RP, in all honesty, I'm not arguing with you. I, wait for it, actually AGREE with you. IF you weren't hopped up on your bitchfit, you'd realize that.

2. All I was doing was explaining HOW those dumbshit judges could have made such a decision. I stated that I didn't necessarily AGREE with the explanation.

3. Do I think Machida won Round 3? yes. Do I myself think he won Rounds 1 and 2? not really. I could see how they could go either way.

The real enemy isn't the Mighty 'Kai. The real enemy is the BULLSHIT JUDGING.

I literally almost dropped my beer on the floor when i saw them put the belt around Machida. I've never felt like this about any fight in my entire life. I'm not even a fan of either. Thats the thing. It's not like i've been some huge Shogun fanboi or something.

I'm not a fan of either really but that doesn't stop you thinking its the worst decision ever.

Look, i'm not a huge fan of either fighter. I've never been. I can honeslty tell you from my experience watching fights, which is alot of experience, Machida didnt win not one single round of this fight. The only round in question was the 5th. And i dont even think he won that round. The first 3 rounds where dominated...i said DOMINATED.. by Shogun. It wasnt close. Thats why i'm on such a bitch fit right now.

To be fair, I felt the same way about the Kimbo/Colossus stoppage.

<------------ Honestly, brother, I'm with you.

Machida has been asked about 5 times if he thought he won and he has answered the same everytime - 3 judges said he did.

So he doesn't believe it really.

I'm just mainly pissed because I was right in the middle of posting some sort of hilarious "Shogun slayed the Dragon" zinger when I heard the decision. Judges ruined my fucking comedy vibe.

Just to clear things up for in the morning:

RP scored the fight: 50-45 Shogun
'Kai scored the fight: 49-46 Shogun.

Ok? I completely agree.


All Machida had in the last two rounds were those step in knees to the body. He couldn't get any power in his hands. His legs and ribs were fucked. Zero ability to generate power from lunging or hip movement. I really think Shogun coulda dropped the hammer and finished him instead of waiting for the decision. Still, that's no excuse for the decision rendered.

Rob scored the fight: 50-45 Shogun