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BillyBonez very own wrestling thread!
Now it seems to me that the WWE is wasting CM Punk. First of all, I realize a lot of responses to this argument might go something along these lines, "Hurr Hurr, But CM Punk has been World Champion 3 times Hurr Hurr". Well, I am sorry but even though that is true it DOES NOT mean in any way, shape nor form that CM Punk is being used PROPERLY by world wrestling entertainment. Let's first look at CM Punk. Phil Brooks, better known as the indie sensation, CM Punk has received mountains of praise for his sensational and groundbreaking work in such companies as Ring Of Honor. A lot of fans wanted to see this young and EXTREMELY talented man in the biggest and greatest company of them all, WWE. Now, a lot of his fans, myself included worried that CM Punk might get thrown into the proverbial dumpster by WWE authorities. After all, is the story of a promising indie guy coming in and become a jobber with some stupid name and stupider gimmick a new one? No! A lot of us guessed that's what will happen to CM Punk. But alas! A ray of light, we see Punk, albeit a fairly generic face at first debut on ECW where, without the interference of WWE dominant main eventers he was free to express himself and so he did, winning the ECW title in the process and becoming a fan favorite within basically seconds of coming into the company. Already a good start we said, already he is coming into his own, what COULD go wrong? Hahaha Uncle "Vince" must've said, "I'll find a way to screw up your little favorite". Or so it seems and eventually just that happens. Of course, some may say, well if the WWE wanted to screw CM Punk, why didn't they do the same thing as what they did to his Indie best friend, Colt Cabana, better know by his AWFUL WWE gimmick of Scotty Goldman. Well, the truth is, WWE knows a piece of gold when they hold it. CM Punk is that piece of gold, they just don't know how to properly use him. Fast forward into the future. Punk becomes champion of Smackdown after banishing one of the biggest stars of the century, Jeff Hardy out of the company. Here we have the stars aligned, Punk looking strong, and all is right. The fans hate him, they want to see him get his just desserts and the WWE throws THE UNDERTAKER at him! THis is where I said, "YES!" because I was expecting a long drawn out Punk/Taker feud with Punk getting victories in over and over. But what we get? What does the ALMIGHTY brain conglomerate of the WWE give us? A PIECE OF CRAP! Thats right, they have Taker beat Punk like a piece of dog crap in the OPENING match of a PPV. Can you say buried? I sure can! Of course there was also the whole controversy/screwjob thing, and thats even worse. It made Punk look worse than most people on the roster. It made him lookj like a total piece of crap and not in a good,"That heel is an evil piece of crap way" but more in the "LOL guys, that guy blows ass" way. So, over and over they keep telling us, "Hey guys, Punk sucks, Taker rules". What is the point? Taker is an ancient broken down relic of a time long gone. CM Punk is the future of the WWE, the most talented young superstar to have come by in decades. So, naturally WWE has the old dusty relic beat the young guy. And to top it off, Taker is of course, injured as usual so he will have to drop the title back to CM Punk again. It sometimes seems to me that WWE booking is accomplished by a man smacking himself into a wall because this is what we, the fans, feel. We don't want to see Old Man Taker who is always injured, hold the top gold. No! We want to see the man with the future, a young, fresh new star like Punk hold it. What does Bragging Rights hold for us? Let us, anD BY us, I mean TRUE WWE and wrestling fans that this will be redemption and that CM Punk will CLEANLY beat Taker in the match. Of course, knowing the WWE, it will be another "Punk cheats to win" victory and he will again be seen as nothing more than a piece of crap. Now perhaps, I get too much into this. I admit I do, I think about the WWE and the storylines on a daily basis, I am a hardcore fan. But even those who turn to watch once in a while will admit that the WWE booking of CM Punk is equivalent to shooting yourself in your ass because whether they like it or not, they WILL need a star like CM Punk in the future and if they keep wasting him, then the WWE will be crying about why he doesn't draw to be on top and the truth will be, because you guys made him look like crap to make an old shell like The Undertaker feel good about himself. Hopefully tonight at Bragging Rights, Punk will be REDEEMED and beat Taker with the 'Vice and finally regain the credability that was taken from him by the WWE. For the sake of the future of the WWE. How many here think this way? Now I am sure there might be old school Taker fans who watched for years and want to see nothing more than their man on top. I get it, but, you gotta admit, even Taker himself has got to admit, the man is too old, too broken down, too covered in cobwebs so to speak to be headlining the company anymore. He needs to head to "Special Attractions-Ville". |
Buh-reed. Beh-reed. Hmm. I'm trying.
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I think you answered a lot of your own questions by pointing out that he's been a steady competitor in the World Title scene since making the jump to Smackdown. Just because he's not the champion right now he's not going anywhere. He's in backstage segments with Vince. I'm pretty sure they're aware of the heat this man gets. But at the same time, this isn't the era where a heel keeps the belt and the face chases it for months. This is an era where the good guy always wins.
A lot of the IWC thought the sky was falling when Punk wasn't instantly made Champion of the Company as soon as he walked through the door. He's doing fine where he is. |
It basically comes down to this: CM Punk is the top heel on SmackDown!. That means his job his to encourage fans to buy tickets to see him lose. If Punk is good at losing, then more power to him. I know some might want to see Punk hold the World Heavyweight Title for upteen years, and I would not have complained if he had beat The Undertaker in Hell in a Cell, but it's unrealistic to expect that, and quite frankly may not be great business.
The Undertaker won the World Heavyweight Title cleanly because of this reason: He is the top face of SmackDown!. His job is to put asses in seats by looking like the greatest thing since sliced bread. When he's as sore as he is, it does damage his ring work, and force him and Punk into shorter matches, but that is why people should be relieved to get Batista and maybe even John Cena on SmackDown!. Otherwise, who else is there? Taker won the World Heavyweight Title because, as a face, he needs to look like a winner so that the fans by into his shtick. He's still one of, if not the most over face in the entire company. That ultimately means more than a fanboy's dreams of seeing Punk beat everybody all the time. Punk/Taker opened Hell in a Cell for a very obvious reason -- there were just too many fucking Hell in a Cell matches on one card. That concept was horrible from the start, and has very little to do with Punk. I don't think it buries Punk at all. If John Cena and Randy Orton open Bragging Rights, does that mean that the loser is buried? Not at all. The WWE PPV structure is becoming more gimmicked, so it is (d)evolving, and we're seeing changes. One of those is that the show sometimes kicks off with a "main event." I love CM Punk, I do; but this whole "Punk is being buried" shit is so fucking annoying. There is a logical reason behind every bit of booking he has been involved in. He got a clean victory over Taker, for Christ's sake (albeit via disqualification). Technically, he is the only man to hold a submission victory over The Undertaker. And after Bragging Rights, he might just be the World Heavyweight Champion again. Everyone needs to relax. |
I think CM Punk should go on a Goldberg like winning streak and no sell everyone's offense.
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Hey, HBPunk. You no longer send me PM's about meeting up for some hot manlove.
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I couldn't be bothered to read all of the first post, I assume it has something to do with Punk being wasted because he isn't currently the World Champion. To be fair I think Punk is very lucky to have done so well this year. They've actually been trying to use him and has been the only new bonafide main-eventer made this year. Tonight will be the 7th World Heavyweight Championship match he will have been involved in on PPV in a row. I'm sure most people on the roster would love to switch places with him.
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When did Noid create a sock account :?:
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i HOPE THE UNDERTAKER F----- KILLS YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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LOL. Phil Brooks.
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As for Loosing to taker in the First Match of a PPV
-Main Event Matches at the start of a double (or triple) main event PPV isn't a bad idea. Look around for an old article from Lance Storms Website on how the best way to book a card is, he makes a lot of sense, saying that the first match and middle matches should be the 2 of the best matches on the card (one to start the crowed off happy, the other one to pep them up again with another big match) "LOL guys, that guy blows ass" way -I wouldn't care what anybody what talks like that has to say. I need to go I don't even know why you started this thread, his character needs to evolve dude... from what I hear it going at least somewhat the direction he hoped. |
I got halfway into the first sentence of the second paragraph and decided I hate BillyBonez.
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Mayonnaise.
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Ketchup, I say. Ketchup.
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Why is TPWW wasting BillyBonez?
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Remember Crazy Bones?
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On topic: I'm fairly certain CM Punk will win the Superstar of the Year award if they do something like the Slammys again. This year he won the Intercontinental Title in his hometown, making him the fastest man to have won the Triple Crown in history. He also won his second Money in the Bank Ladder Match, which he cashed in successfully to become a two-time World Heavyweight Champion. Then he defeated Jeff Hardy in his own specialty match to win back the title. He also became the first man to "officially" submit The Undertaker. I can't think of anyone else that deserves the claim, really. Maybe Randy Orton for winning the Royal Rumble as well as winning three WWE Championships. But I could see Punk getting it as a notch on his belt. |
Why is the WWE flushing CM Punk down the toilet?
I do not know if I am the only one who knows but it seems to me that WWE is trying to flush CM Punk down the toilet. Now I know the dog house joke is popular and I am not gonna say that the WWE is killing CM Punk or anything because he still gets television time, but lets face at the facts here. A while ago, Punk was world champ and all was good, he was probably the most over heel in the company and was doing an awesome job with his straight edge gimmick. Then he even got the push to retire Jeff Hardy which was awesome cause he totally deserved it. So all was going wrong, what could go wrong? Lol never ask that question, because it did go wrong. WWE slaps Punk with a useless wrestler, Festus, who vince probably has a fetish over because he is a big and we all know how much vince loves pushing non stop talentless big guys just because they are big (Albert and Tomko and Snitsky come to mind). So I say okay, yo, maybe he will be there for a while but then BANG, CM Punk drops down to the mid card instead of being in the main event with his new bodyguard. Complete waste imo. And to make it worse they throw batista (big man fetish yo) up in the main event and completely forget about Punk and actually have him feud with...RON KILLINGS? Are you joking WWE? You take your best, most over heel who is great for company reputations and you throw him into a feud with a guy who will NEVER get over and is horrible, Ron Killings? K-Kwik? Is this who u want ur top heel to feud with? I feel it is a complete waste of what they are doing with punk. To make it worse, if they just had Punk beat up KKwik all the time like Drew Mactire did, that would be good/cool. But they had Killings kick CM Punk' ass like one million time, basically screaming to the fans "THIS GUYS SUCKS LOL!". I dont understand the point of them doing this, this is like Vince taking money from his own pocket and burning it. It is a complete waste of an awesome talent. Of course he is still better off than guys like Colt Cabana was, but then again, Colt Cabana was never as good as CM Punk because Punk is basically the man WWE could build their whole company around for the next 5 years or so. Also he doesnt get injured because he is not a steroid monkey like LameTista and wont get suspended for drugs like Jeff Weedy. So, I just don't understand the reason why WWE, clearly understanding that CM Punk is the future and one of their aces in their cards, continue to flush him down the toilet and tell us that he is crap??? It makes me mad. |
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Punk's being cycled in and out of the main event. That is absolutely no surprise.
He's not being buried, he's having great matches and even greater promos. Don't fucking complain. Look at it this way: It took Cena (in their first match) using a Super FU to put him down. That's fucking huge. |
i'm arguably the biggest punk mark here and i have no issue with his current direction.
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Personally I like the fact that they've sorta isolated Punk/Killings/Morrison/McIntyre from the old blood on Smackdown and let them have their own thing. They're creating their own buzz and the fans really seem to be responding to it. And say what you want about Killings, but dude is over as fuck.
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R-Truth is a former multi-time NWA World Heavyweight Champion.
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I love CM punk but he is a very effective foil for R-Truth and so far its been an entertaining feud so in summation sir (Billy Bones)...STFU |
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really?...at this thread
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I know what would save CM Punk!
Put him in a stable... WITH CM PUNK! |
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How can CM Punk be in a stable with himself?
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The same way Punk outpopped DX.
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big man fetish yo
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I need to get signed by Vince.
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wow best video ever
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I wanna pork that tards mom
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wow laughing at people who are handicapped is sooo mature and sooo funny. :n:
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I know not about the rest of this board, but I personally differentiate between mentally handicapped and retarded.
Mentally handicapped isn't a choice. Retarded is. |
LOL, I was actually thinking that after the one kid fell down and the rest stopped running to help him up, that he would then say "suckas" and take off running and win the race.
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Imagine if the only reason Bret decided to return is revealed to be...
During Bret's return, Bret and HBK get into a brawl (not for real) but during the brawl, Bret pulls out his little "hitman" and sticks into Shawn's "Boy Toy". After this, Bret is arrested and reveals that this is the only reason he came back and that he has been planning this all these years? It would probably make wrestling popular again. |
Bret's gonna fuck Triple H?
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WTF!?
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It seems to me that Punk and Orton are in the same boat right now feuding with a midcarder and I think for both it is just temporary as they are gonna be focusing on the Legacy and DX implosions in the near future.
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People would think Bret is gay more than making wrestling popular again. |
Did you really think this was a good idea for a thread?
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I seldom "neg rep" but this deserved it.
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billybones. Its obvious that your daddy sticks his cock up your ass. The only question is do you do ass to mouth?
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well we all know the reason bret is coming back to wwe
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The worst case scenario is Truth can't get over, and gains zero steam after the fued, which doesn't look likely seeing as he's been more and more over with the live crowds as this fued has gone on. Punk will see the Main Event in due time. |
I can't stand Punk or Truth...they can both die for all i care
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Is that not a reason to come back?
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You will only speak when spoken to, peanut committee. Keep it down.
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To be honest, I do wish Punk was still the heel focus of the SmackDown! main event scene. Just because he is the most refreshing heel we have had in a long time. Batista is more interesting as a heel, but he's just not Punk good. Then you've got Chris Jericho, who would be an awesome choice, but we're not really getting that.
I get what the WWE are trying to do, but I would have liked to have seen the Vince McMahon/CM Punk/Undertaker angle followed through a bit more. |
i think that retarded kid should be in a stable with CM Punk
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CM PUNK SOULD PIN EVRY ACTIVE WRESLER IN THEWWE AT DEH SAME TIME AND TEN GET ON TOP OF TEH ARENA AND PIN THAT TOO SO HE HAS A VICTORY OVER EVERY FAN IN THE BUILDING!!!!11111111ONEONEONE
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haha Jeff Weedy.
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they must have pissed off the FUPB kid
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You guys make a lot of good points but they cant undo the damage that WWE has already made on CM Punk. I hope they realize and are not retarded and have Punk main event again soon.
He deserves it, he's the best they got, imo. |
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CM Punk is in the stable. I mean... doghouse.
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Yeah, it truly is. Part of me still hopes for CM Punk to win Money in the Bank again this year, and cash it in against The Undertaker in the main event, ending his streak. :y:
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From what I can see the WWE seems to have a headliner crisis. There are still some great wrestlers, and some classic draws, DX, Taker, etc. But they need something more fresh and I'd guess that in the new year they would evaluate the issue based on who got more yards with the ball.
Don't be alarmed if CM Punk is bumped down a little in the card, just making way to test more guys out. |
I think Punk's being treated pretty well considering where some of WWE's former top guys have ended up
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I would also hope that after some time off Taker would stick around as kind of a mentor figure to someone else, I think they'd get a much better rub that way than to him jobbing to someone who, no offense, isn't even in the same league. CM Punk is great, don't get me wrong, but Undertaker is pretty much one of those wrestlers in a league of his own, there's nobody like him, there won't be anybody like him. And I'm not praising him like he's the greatest of all times, I'm just saying he's fairly unique. |
If the WWE is looking to create a major star, the best way to do it is to use the streak.
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I completely agree with Rock Bottom.
Taker is one of those rare wrestlers that "put over" someone by having them headline a competitive PPV match with him, regardless if they win or lose. I don't think any one person is big enough to live up to being "the guy that ended The Undertaker's career" or even being the "Streak Breaker". I'm not saying that I just want Taker to steam roll through young talent (well..depends which young talent we're talking about here.. but anyway..), I'm saying that Taker has a big enough presence about him where it helps establish stars by just having feuds/matches with him, not necessarily defeating him. Plus, if someone is to end the streak, it obviously should be a young wrestler, but would WWE or Taker himself feel comfortable handing over his entire legacy to a young performer? I think WWE seems untrustworthy of doing this because of how Lesnar was put over HUGE by the likes of RVD, Rock, Show, Angle, Benoit, and Taker himself, and then after 2 years, he packed up and left the company (I don't blame him, I'm just stating how this could have effected the way WWE pushes young talent up until right now). |
Because he is a WRESTLER and he is not friends with Triple H or Shawn Micheals.
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Does anybody else think that no one on Smackdown is winning the chamber?
Ive been thinking this and I think im thinking right. After watching Smackdown last night when Edge talked about people who can win the chamber, well, I thought about it and I think that HBK is gonna follow in Edge's foot steps and take out someone from the Smackdown chamber, like R-Truth and take their place.
Then HBK wins it and Taker has no chance but to face him at Mania again. Heck, to make it more fun and more scary that Taker's streak will be over, they can add Edge to it and it would be fresh because Edge and HBK never feud. So, the mania SD match could be come, HBK Vs Taker Vs Edge. Title and streak both on the line and Edge and Taker are faces while HBK can be the heel because we havent seen HBK heel it up in like forever. What do u think? Im pretty sure HBK is gonna be in Smackdown's chamber at the elimination chamber (Thats such a dumb PPV name), but I think that its pretty obvious. So what u think? |
I don't see it happening that way. Somehow I see Michaels getting involved and costing Undertaker the title, but I don't see Michaels winning it or being in the Smackdown main event at Wrestlemania.
Good theory though. |
Shawn Michaels will be taking time off after Wrestlemania, so I just know that he won't be winning any titles. The Undertaker is also heavily rumored to retire this year. Just a bit of news. I also heard John Cena will be taking time off, so look for that ECW roster to spice things up on Raw and Smackdown since the older big guns will be off.. I think it's about time as I'm tired of watching the same people with the same storylines...
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Possibly look to see Undertaker drop the title before Wrestlemania so it'll be a non title match @ Wrestlemania vs Shawn Michaels.
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Michaels costs Undertaker the Title (Jericho will win)..... leaving Jericho vs. Edge for the Title at WM and HBK/Taker II as well
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Yeah, that'll happen, since it was just posted as a storyline lol. But, in all seriousness, I hope Christian, Edge, Jericho n company get drafted to Raw... I can't stand watching taped shows as everything is leaked already by it's live broadcast. I would prefer Smackdown to go to Spike n take part of Impacts time slot on THURSDAYS and be LIVE!
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Wheel of Fortune rarely has spoilers leaked if you're looking to change it up.
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Every time I think of something while reading a post, Ramm immediately beats me to the punch lol.
Jericho is winning this thing, if only because he's the only real threat to the Undertaker legitimacy-wise in that cage. 100% chance HBK gets involved in this, either costing Taker the belt or attempting to. I can also see the scenario, however, where R-Truth or Morrison are found unconscious in the back before the match, ruled unable to compete, and BAH GAWD IT'S MICHAELS. I'm unsure about this scenario though because putting HBK in this match and having him not WIN it would really weaken his spot in this feud even more. Just my opinion. |
Not just spoilers, but watered down edits of the show that takes away from the hype of being a Live telecast. Why do you think people hate TNA still? Because it's taped.. Changing to Mondays isn't going to be a clear fix until they start having Live events in multiple arena's and not just Florida.
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I do NOT seeing Triple H going Heel by the DX split, or atleast, not a clear heel role.. The fans turned Trip face last time... Unless he teams up with Sheamus, that'd bring some new heat.. But if he attacks people like Cena, people will just be like, finally, tired of Cena! Jericho n Edge are great wrestlers because they've been great faces and EVEN BETTER heels. People like Cena, Shawn Michaels, n Undertaker really havent had that.. Undertaker was pretty controversial back in the old days which was cool, now he's just gotten watered down over there on Smackdown.
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Btw.. I really like the idea of Nxt because people like Adam Evans will get to showcase their talents :-)
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Did the Undertaker ever have a 3-way match at Mania?
3-way match doesn't make it about the streak that much. |
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