Official Guitar Hero 6 thread.
 

First song already announced.
http://www.joystiq.com/2009/11/23/te...for-guitar-he/
Rockers of the classic '80s band Tesla claim to be included in the yet-to-be announced (but you totally saw it coming) Guitar Hero 6. In an interview with Brave Words & Blood Knuckles, guitarist Dave Rude revealed "Modern Day Cowboy" -- from the band's 1986 debut album Mechanical Resonance -- will be included in the music title. Rude noted the song was one of three suggestions the band made to Activision when they were pursued to be included.

Oh, FFS ALREADY?

yayyyyyyyyyyyy

Not surprised since Guitar Hero is now part of their yearly releases with Call of Duty series. Only good news is they announced weeks ago they will stop releasing too many "expansion" sets like Metalica or Beatles since its killing their overall Guitar Hero sales.

How are these still appealing

why?

They could go to guitar hero 12 for all I care.

Because there's very little to be innovated that makes a whole new disc worth buying. I haven't bought a GH game since World Tour, but I've bought hundreds of songs from the RB store.

See what I'm saying?

But listen to what I am saying. As long as they keep letting us import most of the songs for $5 from a stupid code on the manual, which can be obtained numerous ways, let them go to GH9764762 or something. We are the real winners. 50+ songs for $5 beats the hell out of anything the RB store can offer.

They bring in enough new stuff to compliment all the new songs, to warrant a purchase imo.

I'm not really tight on money or anything either tho, so whatever.

Gimme a code and we will see.

Bad news is they're now releasing the core games quarterly.

:shifty:

The expansions would be fine if they were something closer to disc based exportable DLC. GHVH is something I only play because I got it free, and GHA was awesome for the ten dollars I paid for it. If I get a good deal on GHM, I'll pobably buy it and give D Mac a chubby. But as full games....They really are hurting themselves with that model, so ditching the expansions is probably good. Yearly? Eh...Probably not so much, but I'm already more or less used to it.

People actually still buy Guitar Hero games?

It's Activision. They wouldn't still be making them if they didn't see money to be made. Remember, these people dropped a bunch of titles last year, including Brutal Legend and Ghostbusters.

I'm just surprised everybody hasn't moved onto Rockband by now...

Theoreticaly, one could play both.

Theoretically, Guitar Hero has sucked since 2, so why waste the time and money?

Yes sir, I have. Why do you ask?

Weird how so many people enjoy playing something that sucks.

Get fucked, just too many GH games out.

I don't mind the GH core series. Certain compilations are worth buying (Met, even Smash Hits at a cheap dime). But I never understood the mentality of "why keep making/buying ________". That ignores how game companies and game consumers work.

Well, I like Rock Band's DLC format. Let's me skip the shit I don't want and I will happily buy tracks every week. Seems like the right thing to do for your consumers, but like Activision is gonna do that, amirite?

I am also a fan of RB's model. Serves the customer better.

Wait, you're one of the people that thinks that because a lot of people like something, it must be good?

Not that the people who finally put out the games are any better, mind. Both sold well, but markedly below expectations. It's like they only picked up these games expecting a quick buck or something.

Which is a shame. Tim Schafer's fanbase should be sterilised, not encouraged.

Guitar Hero 5 is a pretty damn good game.

If you want a more mainstream answer, look at the songs they put on the discs.

Except Activision's model has been damaging the success of the franchise, as well as the genre itself. I'd say that this goes both to the mentality of "why keep making/buying _________" And also demonstrates why this is generally not how game companies work.

Guitar Hero is not Madden. Most games are not yearly franchises, for that matter. Yearly installments are contributing to a stagnant game environment.

He is a fan of Call of Fratboy Modern Warfare 2.

Not familiar with Tim Schafer's other stuff, but I have heard good things about Psychonauts. I liked Brutal Legend for what it is. A simple action game about metal. Had a blast playing it and I'll trade it in as soon as I finish it because it's nothing mind blowing, but it is fun. EA is another culprit for cash grabs, but they've been doing some things that actually benefit customers for a change. Picking up the aforementioned titles, bonus DLC in Dragon Age/Mass Effect 2, the Rock Band store. It's all been good.

Heard good things about GH5 too, and I'll probably get the game/guitar combo as soon as it's cheap. But yeah, this quarterly bullshit has too go. Not dropping $70 every 3 months for only 5 - 20 songs I'd actually want to play.

Bad enough with games like FIFA, Madden and all those. I prefer the way they did it with the NBA Street series. It's every 2 years, so each game that comes out has really meaningful changes and additions. NBA Street 2, V3 and Homecourt are so wildly different from each other, but they are an EA sports franchise. Scary, I know. That extra year makes a huge difference. Funny thing is, FIFA has Live Season, which for an extra $5 or whatever, you get roster updates throughout the season to reflect roster changes and individual player performances. With things like that, who needs an annual game? Work on improving the engine every 2 years and they'd probably sell better too.

Picked CoD4 GotY edition a while back. Dunno how it is just yet. Still haven't played. Will get back to you.

For the record, I don't like yearly installments. Just making a business point.

i wonder if anyone has bought all this guitar hero stuff over the years and then woke up one day and realized with all the money and time they've invested they could have probably bought a les paul and become quite proficient by now.

Are you seriously gonna try for that tired and false dichotomy here and now?

I know that buying a real guitar as opposed to a plastic video game one wouldn't give me a chance of being any good at it. I mean, technically, it would...but I know that lessons would just go to waste on me as I'm not very musically inclined at all, and I'd probably be like, huh, WHAT?

Just because it's not as good as rockband, doesn't mean it sucks.

Lets move on.

Pretty sure most of the people who play call of duty would never be mistaken for a frat boy.

Somebody uploaded the HHH cover I made in GHWT.

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I was working on a longer version in GH5 before M$ gave my bro the banhammer. Was 40% done too, the rough rhythm guitar was laid down and everything...

A part of me liked the GH Studio in the WT engine better than the 5 engine. Nothing seems to sound right in 5's library.

Sounded pretty sweet. Sorry to hear you didn't get 2 complete your project as I'm sure it would've turned out awesome.

Of course I'm sure there's probably a shit ton of other users out there who've tried to put together other WWE themes and been stopped short by "the man".

If BL wasn't treated like GOTY material, I might not want to shank its fans.

Doesn't hurt that it was a stupid point, underscored by the failure of that business model in this very instance.

Not everyone can play guitar. Just look at Indifferent Clox. Well, he can play guitar, but not in tune, in time, or in any meaninggul sense.

Pretty much anyone can match colours on a "fretboard" and "strum" along. Unless you're colour blind and have a problem with simple deductive reasoning.

People can play Guitar Hero, even if they lack the dexterity to play a real guitar, have fun, and enjoy themselves. Practicing an instrument you suck at year after year is frustrating and sounds awful. Which reminds me....Where's my keyboard?

I expect that kind of ridiculousness from Kalyx, Figgy. Not you.

Are you 12?

No.

UNOFFICIAL SETLIST GUITAR HERO 6 (2 SONGS / 4 ARTISTS) 02/14

Postby greenalien » Tue Nov 24, 2009 5:54 am
Guitar Hero 6
1.)Megadeth - "Headcrusher" 3:26
2.)Tesla - "Modern Day Cowboy" 5:19

Rumored Songs
1.)Eve 6 - "Inside Out"
2.)M.I.A. - "Jimmy"
3.)Shiny Toy Guns - "Ghost Town"
4.)Sister Hazel - "All For You"
5.)Whitesnake - "Here I Go Again"
6.)Whitesnake - "Still Of The Night"

Confirmed Artists:
1.)Black Label Society
2.)Whitesnake

I hope they throw in that Whitesnake song that rips off Led Zepplin.

There's guitar in Jimmy?

You think Neversoft gives a fuck if a song actually has a guitar in it?

No, but I thought that kind of shit was reserved for band hero now. What's the difference between that and guitar hero, if you're just going to have pop music in both.

I always thought Band Hero was a panicky reaction to LEGO Rock Band anyway, there was really no plan to differentiate. Activision scaling back the GH series, most likely nixing Band Hero in the process, would show how little they thought of it.

There was a difference?

Anyway, with no more Band Hero in the likely future (Activision killed Red Octane, stripped a couple of their other devs, and reduced their release schedule to just GH6 and DJH2), there's certainly no difference now.

I thought Band Hero was announced before Lego Rock Band. I may be wrong here, but I coulda sworn it went down that way.

Anyway, the fact that their revenues were down 33%, which was also what led them to dropping the Band specific Hero titles, is probably more an indication of why. I mean, they nixed everything but the main deal and DJ Hero. Which surprises me, because DJ Hero was filed under disappointment. But still, I think it demonstrates a sinking plane mentality...They're simply cutting weight wherever they can.

Well, it probably costs a fuck load to get the bands to agree to the band specific titles. I've only played Aerosmith, but seeing as they actually had to sit the band down for interviews and videos Activision probably forked over a nice percentage of the profits for each of those titles (probably a fuck ton more for Metallica than the others). Then you have to consider that in order for a game like that to be successful, your audience has to have a console the game is on AND be a reasonably big fan of the band. That's kinda limiting.

Then there's DJ Hero. Good god, this game is incredibly fun. Fucking retardedly hard, but retardedly fun too. But there are problems:

1. Yet another peripheral. More space in the closet and/or basement taken up and it jacks up the cost of the game.

2. Speaking of cost: $200+ for the Renegade edition? For what? A fucking CD and a cheap ass table? Fuck you, Activision, Jigga and Shady. Fuck you all in your asses.

3. The Guitar Hero cartooniness is still there. Have they learned nothing from Rock Band's continued domination? Really?

If the people that make any of the aforementioned games other than Rock Band come out with a Lego version any time down the road I will hunt you down. :mad:

Why? Why does a game existing that is not targeted to you and that you will not play going to affect your enjoyment of their other games?

lol

Fucking lack of DLC for DJ Hero pisses me off. Nothing since November.

That too. How 'bout less discs and more dlc, Activision?

Activision had an old school business mentality about their brand. They assumed people were stupid enough to bite anything with a certain title on it. It simply doesn't work that way. There are less fanboys on Earth. People are smarter (relatively), and they will go to the better value/quality. I could have told them their plans for 2008 was overkill and would bite them in the ass.

Those games sold pretty well for a couple of months. Band Hero and DJ hero sold worse than Met. And let's no forget that VH and Met were the two most anticipated by the actual GH community.

I don't like either band, but they are two incredibly commercially successful acts. I think it's pretty clear that the userbase is installed.

It's also pretty clear that with large swaths of games coming out, these unique, non-exportable titles are harder sells, especially when they could release them as DLC. Guitar Hero/Activision flooded the market. They paid the price.

Also, while you may be right about DJ Hero, I think the install base for such a game and such a peripheral is much lower. I'll give it a try when I can get it cheap, but it's the sort of thing with limited appeal to me, and I have almost every fake plastic guitar game on the market since GH1.

I think that's why it was commercially disappointing. Then again, it was part of the Hero glut, which is enough by itself. We'll see how 2 does in a year without all those pesky spinoffs.

Yeah, how asinine of them to assume something that is born out by sales of franchises with a certain title on it. :lol:

The problem wasn't so much that their idea was too "old school," The problem is that even now that music games are "mainstream," they still don't have the same level of commercial viability. They also require a significantly stronger investment than other franchises. Which yes, means in the end it was easy to tell you how bad this was going to fail, but apparently you got to the right conclusion with the wrong math.

Close enough.

Characters
1.)Gene Simmons

Not for anyone with reasoning skills.

Wow. Dave Wadding must be fapping to that news like you fap to anything Metallica.

April 1 - Lynyrd Skynyrd Track Pack

* "Freebird"
* "Simple Man"
* "Gimme Three Steps"

April 8 - Fall Out Boy Track Pack

* "Thnks fr th Mmrs"
* "This Ain't a Scene, It's an Arms Race"
* "The Take Over, The Breaks Over"

April 15 - Single tracks

* "Gives You Hell" - All-American Rejects
* "There's No Other Way" - Blur
* "Addicted" - Saving Abel

April 22 - Pheonix Track Pack

* "Everything Is Everything"
* "Lisztomania"
* "1901"

April 29 - Black Sabbath Track Pack (Previously delayed)

* "After Forever"
* "Into The Void"
* "Sweet Leaf"

Wow, that's some awesome stuff for GH6. I can't wait to get it!

WHOOPS

Whatever, fuck it. It's all the same. :foc:

"Postin' in the wrong thread? That's a paddlin'."

Freebird? Nice.

Turns out Guitar Hero II had Freebird.

Hmmmmmmm

And Smash Hits.

And it's exportable to GH 5 already.

LOL I wonder how they'll handle Addicted.

"When you're going down on me, in between the sheets"

Yeah. Awesome score for them.

Possibly... possibly... GH: Red Hot Chilly Peppers going into development.

Source of this rumour?

I seriously doubt it anyway, given the downsizing of their music devs and the fact they cut all but two titles.

OTOH, it'd be one I wouldn't feel the need to get at least. So if they do, I don't really lose much.

The downsizing was noted, but I guess Activision could still do one more band title.

I was gonna make a comment about Kotaku not knowing any better, until I decided to search for the actual article. Turns out, it was Kalyx who wasn't giving the full picture.

http://kotaku.com/5528597/rumor-guit...s-in-the-works

If anyone's interested.

Still, I wonder about the details of the survey. Sounds pretty specific for a general survey.

Kal, I think it's amusing that you think that somehow resolves the issue I mentioned.

Ah well.

What issue?

Yeah, I got it and it's that.

Children of the Gravy by Black Sabbath
I'm Not Okay (I Promise) by My Chemical Romance
Pour Some Sugar On Me by Def Leppard
What Do I Get? by Buzzcocks
If You Want Peace...Prepare for War by Children of Bodom
Love Gun by KISS
Chemical Warfare by Slayer
Bohemian Rhapsody by Queen
Uprising by Muse
Paranoid by Metallica & Ozzy Osbourne
Been Caught Stealing by Jane's Addiction
There's No Secrets This Year by Silversun Pickups
Sudden Death by Megadeth
Bloodlines by Dethklok
Waidmanns Heil by Rammstein
Sharp Dressed Man by ZZ Top
Dancing Through Sunday by AFI
Fury of the Storm by Dragonforce
Fascination Street by The Cure

Confirmed tracks via UK mag.

It's official, we've run out of songs to play.

Some decent ones in there, but tracks alone don't make the game. I'd like to know what bringing to the table feature wise.

Wtf is with the Rockband Network? How long does it take to get a song approved?

I put in my custom track of Kalyx's mother moaning like three weeks ago.

HAZAH

you should see the bass track. Mad bass.

I will rape you in the ass.

lawl.

I haven't played the last couple of games so there may be more but I see 4 off the top of my head that have been in previous versions.

Well, why put in new songs?

I'm sure this bi-monthly franchise will be packed to the rims with features :y:.

Oh no wait, they're already working on GH7 and Band Hero 2 and 3. http://www.destructoid.com/activisio...3-173846.phtml

Anyways, I'll only play Queen, AFI and The Cure off that list. Here's hoping they get added to Rock Band instead so I don't have to pay for a full disc.

Band Hero 2. And 3? Fuck sake, Activision, you promised.

Ozzy and Metallica? Awesome.

terrible setlist. they are continuing down the path of "let's try and please as many people as we can" by slapdashing together a horrible mish-mash of genres that don't work together which ultimately does nothing but make you resent 85% of the game.

like guitar hero 5. i play the dlc and like maybe 9 or 10 songs from the >100 that are available.