Fuck Degeneration X
 

They've been lame before, but this is the lamest they've EVER been, by some margin. Shawn Michaels is great. Triple H is good. Together as the current version of DX, though? Awful. Absolutley fucking awful.

Who writes the DX material? Little People Court? Really? Is that supposed to be funny? Was there one person here who found that to be funny? Not only was it unfunny, it lasted about 20 minutes too long, AND a good chunk of it was replayed deep in the show for NO FUCKING REASON WHATSOEVER.

I guess what I want to know is if any of you actually find the current DX entertaining. If so, I'm going to need you to explain/kill yourself. Whichever comes first.

they're alright..... nowhere near the original stuff, but they're tolerable

A_T,

I hear you buddy, but I think you're missing the point. The WWE is targeting the 12 and under demographic. You and I might not find this funny, but I'd be willing to wager that a mass majority of 12 and under's (along with 35 year old redneck's in Arkansas perhaps) actually *do* find DX's antics funny. This demographic probably also finds John Cena entertaining.

It's unfortunate, but that is the way things are. It's the same reason why Cena and/or DX have NOT turned heel despite them being spectacularly boring and uncreative for so many years.

In general it's just really hard to like a face in today's WWE. DX will occasionally make a good smark joke and still puts on good matches, but I would rather have HHH and HBK on their own.

so does Michael Stima enjoy DX?

The past two Raws were two of the worst ever. It's getting hard to watch, which is sad, because I've put up with a LOT over the years and I can almost always be entertained somehow. Not so much on Raw right now.

ABT!!! Don't be messen with the D Generatpn X!
!

I like Kofi Kingston, Rey Mysterio, and John Morrison...but that may be about it on the face side right now.

I really wish these people voting 'yes' would explain themselves.

Something tells me that if HHH wasn't married to Steph, he wouldn't be putting up with this crap.

yea DX is terrible, but I don't expect much out of Raw anymore, so it doesn't really frustrate me like it has for the past few years. Until they get out of this kid friendly era, it will continue to suck

Triple H probably thinks DX is hysterical.

Whats to explain. They are just having fun while WWE is still kickin. One day TNA will take over.

Oh yeah, and Evan Bourne.

Is that so?

You not see it happening?

I guess I must be sleeping on that one.

...not since my "Are U 50" sign was taken away from SummerSlam.

Triple H is holding down FourFifty too? This is out of control.

I bet HHH's first daughter with Steph finds the hornswaggle stuff hillarious.

She is like..4..prime target audience for the WWE right now

Why did I know that James Steele would vote yes?

I find that when they are actually being serious, it is still possible to enjoy them. Parts of their feuds with Legacy and Jerishow had me very interested in them.

For the most part though, they act and look like goofballs who I know are both talented guys, and know I would enjoy them much more if they were apart.

Also, HBK challenging Undertaker was made ridiculous by the fact that he looked like a goofball at the time, and after his moment of seriousness went back to being a goofball later in the show. Totally can't buy him as serious. Last year he was apart from HHH, and the whole Taker/HBK thing could really fly. I'm deeply concerned that it'll just be ruined by HBK being in DX this year.

Yea I don't enjoy the skits and humor. Especially Shawn's whole goofy gimmick.

Still, I can enjoy their matches and fueds. I see nothing wrong with a TLC tag title fued with Jericho and The Big Show. Or a match with the Hart Dynasty.
It's the plugs for shopzone and the midget skits that are boring, but at the end of the day it sells.

Either way, I give them a yes because I love both wrestlers and for the most part it keeps them active and occupied without taking up pointless space in the title scene. Neither one of them is going to set the world on fire in the main event anymore, and it's frustrating to see HHH always holding the title, or Shawn always jobbing and never holding the title.

A perrenial DX reunion might be stale on the segment side of things, but it has it's advantages and makes for some good tag action.

I think the Little People Court is mostly what drove me over the edge. WAY too long and WAY too stupid.

Couple that with the fact that they had been talking about it for WEEKS, and it makes me furious.

not to mention the fact that they replayed 80% of it again right before the end of the show

I read a report that the live crowd was seriously upset. It was primarily a family crowd too, that was very pro-Cena and DX.
By the end of the night, they weren't happy

I guess after the show went off the air, Jericho got superkicked and sold it for a few seconds, then stormed to the back like he was pissed about what he was involved in.
Big Show was covered by the midgets and a ref counted it. This was their "dark match main event"

I just think hornswoggle is bringing them down last week they were good when hornswoggle wasn't in the scene.

lol, DX.

When has DX NOT sucked a huge penis?

1997

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Don't mention that year around Zen

I wonder how far this will go... I just e-mailed WWE about DX, and my sign getting taken away at SummerSlam...

I've been stewing over this since SummerSlam... Two weeks ago on Raw when Denis Miller was the guest host he said a few things that made a lot of sense to me, which completely contradicts what WWE says they stands for. Mainly, the freedom of speech.

I went to SummerSlam, and paid for front row tickets. The trip cost me around $4,00O, most of which were the ringside tickets right by the ECW announce table.

This brings me onto DX... A group that won't be told what to do, what to say, or how to act. The embodiment of DX lives in having a free spirit and doing what you want to do. I held up a sign that stood for what DX means, but by no means was I cheering for them. "Are You 50"
Before DX came out to the ring a security guy came up to me and said he needed my sign. With one motion of his arm retracting with my sign in his hand, my freedom of speech, one of the freedoms our brave men and women of the armed forces has fought and died for, was retracted by a hypocritical corporation.
So go on and keep waving your American flags for ratings, and shill out merchandise that says you're patriotic.
If you wish to assuage an unsatisfied fan I will not settle for any apology short of a copy of The Self Destruction Of The Ultimate Warrior dvd.

Those are good examples of guys who broke through by doing more with less. Morrison, Kofi, and Bourne all have an undeniable charisma. Morrison and Kofi are now getting to showcase their talents on the mic. Bourne still hasn't gotten the chance to, but still gets a good pop because he knows how to utilize his body language.

The point is, when you have guys like Cena and DX taking up 15 minutes a week every week and never losing a match you have a problem. That's why it's easier for us to like the mid-card guys, because there's actually a chance they could lose. But when you're an 8-year-old kid you don't want to see Cena struggle. You want to see him smash everything in sight.

FourFifty is a concerned customer!

You wave your rights when you enter an arena. Why don't you try reading the back of the ticket before you spout cliches

Still, if you get your dvd then all the power to you

My ten year old cousin loves John Cena...but he also loves The Miz. I wonder why that is.

For a company that says they're pro-USA that says you cannot cheer or boo the way you wish doesn't seem like they support the freedom of speech.
It's like going into Olive Garden, getting their endless pasta bowl, and cutting you off at a bowl and a half.

I just want to see their response. Like, that's it. I really don't care anymore.

Again, you don't have freedom of speech when you enter the arena. I'm not kidding around. You basically wave your rights. It's considered a contractual agreement. Read the back of a ticket sometime.
It's not the same as being out on the street.

Again- they preach and say they promote the freedom of speech.
I understand that it's a contract that I didn't read. I understand that I have no room to argue here. I just want to see where it goes.

You must have a ticket stub from any sporting event, concert, or even wrestling show lying around the house.

It's going to go nowhere. If they send you the dvd that's awesome, but they probably don't care nor should they. You've known how the WWE product operates for a while now yet you poured your money into it.
I reccomend you make a real stand and stop spending copious amounts of cash on them. That's actually making a point. After all, they gave you that cash. Are you going to hand it right back?

They already gave you three hundred thousand dollars, 450. What the fuck else do you want from them?

I'm still a fan, and my only goal here is to see their reaction. I threw almost every over the top cliche I could think of at them. I'm not looking to make a stand, I'm looking to fuck around.

You should have set your demands higher. You should have dropped that you were their prize winner and list all the purchases you make, and all the events you go to. And you should have talked about how its making you question your plans to attend major events in the future.
Demand tickets or a peice of expensive merchandise or something. Or a personal phone call from a WWE superstar. Get results damnit!

you should demand a public apology

I'll be pretty shocked if they respond at all.

I dunno, though. Have you been in contact with them at all since winning that money? They interviewed you for the website, right?

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ask for a Chris Benoit: Hard Knocks dvd. I'm sure they have plenty of those

But now they suck

You should demand that they make you a Raw guest host.

Thats actually pretty genius.

I think they're more likely to send me this...

You should tell them you and Vince's $200,000 will be appearing on TNA on the 1/4 show.

There are a few instances were I've laughed but to be fair I was never a big fan of theirs but their old material was no doubt better and more memorable for that matter.

As Cranny Drummett

I am somewhat touched that many of you know how to spell my last name.

Tell them you're shooting a vignette for TNA in which you refute Vince McMahon and join the revolution.

Yea, I'll tell them I'll cross the line. :lol: :nono:

and while you're at it tell them you're Booker T. This will ensure they don't email you back

why are you ragging on 450? he is pissed and venting on the internet. He thinks they should practice what they preach.....LEAVE 450 ALONE

.....With all due respect, Savior, the last thing I need in my life is cancer. If there was no cancer the last thing I would need would be a Chris Crocker reference.

Throw the money* in the trash! lol.

*Get them to photocopy a bunch of fake money with Vinces face on it or something.

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Not as funny as the ones from before as you guys already know

Just send them e-mails every week saying:

"I just wanted to let you know that I will be watching this week's RAW..... UNDER PROTEST! :mad:"

lol

I have thoroughly enjoyed the D-Generation X reunion, but the comedy segments are "hit and miss" and I also feel Triple H and Shawn Michaels' talents could be best used elsewhere...like the main event.

They were in the main event of TLC, you know.

World Heavyweight Championship/WWE Championship = Main Event

Last match on the card = Main Event

The DX thing last night (With the exception of the final segment in the ring which I found tolerable) was the most nauseating, shitty attempt at entertainment I think I've ever seen. It's so out of touch with reality. I've seen more clever material on episodes of Jerry Springer.

I could swear for a second I thought Jericho was going to put that midget in the Walls of Jericho after Show had slammed him.

And yes I'll be the first to admit it...I was really hoping to see it.

That little dude was a trooper. :y:

I hear ya about the sign thing, regardless of whether or not buying a ticket or tickets to a WWE event constitutes a "contract" between fan and promoter or not. It's one thing to not be able to cheer and boo vocally whoever the hell you please at one of their live events (something which has never happened to me, nor have I been stopped by dirty looks or comments from people around me, I just keep going till I feel like stopping), but it's ridiculous to try and stifle fans' creative, non-vocal support/dislike of a certain superstar who Vince refuses to stop pushing through outer space.

I also find it somewhat hypocritical that WWE allows digital photography at their events but not recording. I realize the fear is that some jerk will try to record the whole thing and burn it onto a bunch of cheap DVD-R's and sell them for big bucks on the streets, but I'd be willing to bet the vast majority, if allowed to shoot video, would simply use it to upload videos to YT and the like, to show others that "Hey, this is what all went down at (show here)..." Completely harmless, except for the one jerk out of every, maybe 100,000 fans or so worldwide.

no he would be:
1. in TNA jobbing to AJ styles on a weekly basis
2. In a wheel chair with his quads being ripped off the bone.
3. He would be dead.
4.he would be saying "I'll suck it" in a dodgy alley.

No.

I agree. Nobody is going to buy a pirated, handi-cam version of a WWE PPV. One camera, one position; who the fuck is going to spend money on that?


As far as DX goes, I have to agree with the negative sentiments that have already been posted. DX worked in the 90's because they were edgy and made it their mission to offend people. It seems that their new plan of attack is not to offend, but to annoy people with their childish and hokey antics. And one thing about the old DX is that they did joke around and make fun of people, but they also got serious when the time came. They took care of business. The new DX is just a walking punch-line, and everytime they show up, you're just waiting for the midget to pop up. Excuse me, "small person."

The problem is that the kids and the less educated find this new version of DX to be entertaining. I make it a point to visit a local bar every time a WWE PPV is playing, and there's another guy who's always there with whom I have made a kind of acquaintanceship. This guy is like 30, but he's a total mark. He roots on certain guys as if they're actually out there fighting. He pays attention to the storylines as if they were the real deal (I.E. he thought John Cena would lose at TLC because of the powerslam through the table he took on the previous RAW). And he loves DX. He loves the skits with Hornswoggle. He laughs at their jokes and their skits. DX is completely over with this guy. And since I imagine there are thousands more like him all over the United States, I can't help but wonder if the WWE knows exactly what they're doing with DX and John Cena.

I didn't mean that every last copy would be sold at exorbitant prices, just that they'd be sold at well below what WWE would charge, and given enough copies on some cheap DVD-R's or whatever, it could, although not likely, translate into huge $ for anyone who felt crazy enough to actually try to make big money of WWE or Vince McMahon without getting sued to death.

Yeesh, just chill, and stop taking everything everybody says out of context.

No.

Nice rebuttal. I hadn't thought of that argument before.

I like watching HHH and HBK work together in the ring but I fucking hate the DX crap. I loved when DX had tons of adult humor. I wonder if DX has changed so much due to Michaels becoming a born again Christian and stuff.

Yeah..basically they are going to do whatever it takes to make sure their production is the way they want it. If you are in the crowd, you have lost all rights short of whatever WWE wants for their production, which I don't think taking away your sign would have made a difference either way.

I made a comment in the Raw thread mentioning that I bet the audience was pissed.....good call I guess.

And yeah...this DX sucks. Love HHH and HBK, but this is an abortion. WWE can go after all the kiddies they want...but at the end of the day they are looking at a 3 in the ratings while TNA is willing to do whatever it takes at this point.

DX has been absolutly terrible. It's so forced and so dumbed down that is almost embarassing to watch. I dont' know how HBK and HHH could respect themselves for doing this garbage.

The sad part is that the WWE is worse. I can't watch it anymore. Last night after Raw, which I only saw 5 minutes of I wondered if the WWE changed anything in the past year. Nothing has changed, it's the same old recycled, forced, shit. I hate it now. Watching the old videos in this thread made me realize how bad shit has gotten.

No.

I seriously hate DX right now. They're holding EVERYONE down! They hog WAY TOO MUCH TV time. They're ALWAYS in the main event angles.

Seriously, Shawn Michaels is awesome and Triple H, well is pretty crappy, but DX right now are destroying WWE for me.

Then please, go watch TNA and start the 2010 MONDAY NIGHT WARS...OMG!!!!!

On a related note, I'm really pulling for a Trips vs. HBK Wrestlemania match.

I still think this will all lead to HBK turning heel on Triple H and the entire reasoning being that Triple H/Vince McMahon convinced HBK to sell-out for easy money etc and as a result he had lost his focus and couldn't win the big match anymore (WM23 vs Cena, WM25, etc.) when he is/was the greatest big-match wrestler of all time!

Only version of DX I liked was when they were making female fans flash their titties.

How can you enjoy something that's not like it was? The original DX started after Shawn stuffed gauze down his shorts, the humor was dirty and the antics were at the time controversial. DX was made to be Rated R, you cant do that in the current product so its just crap. Obviously people still want it, but smarks want to puke. It doesn't help that Shawn is married now and eats his prayers and vitamins before he goes to bed.

So is it safe to say that "little people's court" will go down as one of the worst angles ever? Not quite Katie Vick level, but none the less, just as terrible.

i voted no

Katie Vick > Little People's Court

Late Gooker entry.

Maybe even in the running for Gooker of the Decade.

Right now, DX does absolutely nothing but negatives for me. However, if they were to turn heel, and become smart-ass political bastards who know they have the company by the balls, I think I would fall in love with them.

THIS.

The current product as a whole right now is absolutely terrible. I can't believe I even watch this shit.

This thread is a little weird.

This was DX humor.