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Requiem 01-31-2010 05:33 PM

How did you pick your favorite team? (any sport)
 
Scroll to the bottom if you just want to discuss the questions in the title, or if you're not one of the people being 'addressed' in the thread.

Alright douchebags. Since everyone insists on calling me a 'bandwagon jumper' for liking the Colts, I will make this thread. This is going to be the last and only thread I will address this 'issue' in, because honestly I am at the point where it's just annoying and is preventing actual discussion because every time I bring up a valid point someone calls me a bandwagon jumper and acts like my opinion doesn't matter. Other than this thread, I am just not going to respond to anyone who makes that comment, because it is childish and has pretty much been the sole reason for me suddenly disliking some posters on here that I didn't previously have any issue with.

The majority of you will continue to call me a bandwagon jumper because you are all whiny fags who don't like the fact that I didn't become a fan of a team based on the criteria that you became a fan of your favorite team. As if there is some golden set of rules to becoming a fan of a team. Hell, most of you probably won't even read everything, and I'll get replies back with comments about things that are already addressed here... because most of the people in question have done that consistently already.

I am not going to explain why I am a fan of the Colts. That has already been explained in the NFL thread several times.

First, people said I should follow a local team. Well, I have no interest in the Kansas City Chiefs. I have never been a fan of football, period, before last year's Super Bowl. I have heard locals talk about the Chiefs or the Rams growing up, and I discarded most of what was said because I didn't care.

Someone said it was logical to like your local team, so that you could get memoribilia and go to their games. I responded that I don't care about that, because I can easily shop online, and if I'm going to go to a football game, it will be an event that I don't mind traveling for. I also don't plan on living here forever, so what is the point of picking a local team for those reasons, if those reasons aren't going to be applicable for a long time? I'm not a Chargers fan just because I was born near San Diego.

In other words, I don't feel I should be obligated to like a team just because I am close to them, and in my opinion that is a stupid thing to solely base your decision on, because it has nothing to do with the team.

Now I have to ask... Is someone considered a bandwagon jumper if they live in a state that has no football team? What if you are in an area where the nearest team is 5 hours away and in a different state? Or even farther in some cases. When they decide what football team they like, what criteria do you expect them to use? If they didn't grow up around sports, and their family has no predisposition to a certain team already, what is supposed to be the deciding factor in the team they choose?

The reason I ask, is because the only difference in a situation like that, and my situation, is that my state has a football team. The theory is the same, though.

Are they forbidden by the die-hard fans to root for a team just because that team is good? How is a GOOD team supposed to get new permanent fans, when anyone who becomes a fan of them is labeled as a bandwagon jumper? If that were the case, a fanbase would never grow. It would remain 'in the family'.. people would like a team because their dad liked them. Or 'because they're local'. And neither of those reasons are bad reasons, by any means. They just don't apply to this hypothetical.

If I was a bandwagon jumper, that would imply that I am not a loyal fan of any team. That I become a fan of a team just because they are good.

However, I do not plan on being a fan of any other team than the Colts.

How would it look any different if I were to pick a shitty team (doesn't matter who), and then decide I don't like them and pick a different team? Should I root for a team I have no interest in just because a bunch of faggots on a wrestling forum think I am a bandwagon jumper because my team is good?

Simply put, I won't. Anyone who complains at this point is just complaining for the sake of picking a fight, or to change the subject from what was being discussed. It's quite transparent really, and some of you will probably give me shit just for typing this whole thing. (which I did while sitting here playing Madden like I would have been regardless of if I had been typing this thread)

Now for questions up for discussion - How did you pick your favorite team(s)? Are they good, or do they suck?

DaveWadding 01-31-2010 05:35 PM

It's the internet dude. You care too much.

PS: tl;dr

Requiem 01-31-2010 05:38 PM

First line says to scroll to the bottom for the discussion points.

In other words, fuck off if you didn't intend to read anything in the first place.

Triple A 01-31-2010 05:38 PM

Can't believe I live in Kentucky and just started watching football and we're already in the Super Bowl.

HeartBreakMan2k 01-31-2010 05:40 PM

49er fan because they were the team I grew up watching in the early 90s, now a Panther fan as well because they're here. So yeah, I like both?

Juan 01-31-2010 05:42 PM

I grew up in the Bay Area, so it was pretty easy to pick a favorite football and baseball team.

DaveWadding 01-31-2010 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Requiem (Post 2920086)
First line says to scroll to the bottom for the discussion points.

In other words, fuck off if you didn't intend to read anything in the first place.

I intended to read it and it was just a wall of text that repeats the exact same things you've been crying about all season. Get over it. Live your fucking life, bro.

The Mask 01-31-2010 05:43 PM

cause my pa supported them (manchester fuckin united).

mildly interested how the giants and redskins do in NFL since the giants stadium was probably the first landmark i saw on my plane to new york, and redskins since they were local to where i lived in VA, and i learnt about how NFL actually works while i was there.

The Franchise 01-31-2010 05:44 PM

For hockey I have a couple favorite teams usually based on players I really liked when I was younger playing on that team. Then over time you just grow to like these teams. My #1 fav hockey team is just my hometown's NHL team which I guess is most peoples default favorite team. I was a big fan of one of the players on mine because his style of playing was really close to mine. For the NBA I started following the Phoenix Suns because Steve Nash is on them and I'm a Canadian supremacist. MLB, NFL and other sports I'm probably just a bandwagoner or choose what team to cheer for based on their jersey colors.

Jeritron 01-31-2010 05:46 PM

I only like my local teams so I can buy merchandise and go to games, but with the advent of the internet you bring up some challenging questions


Honestly are you fucking kidding me?

Supreme Olajuwon 01-31-2010 05:47 PM

You might not have specifically said "I'm going to pick the best team," but subconsciously that's what you did. You liked the players because they were winning. You liked to way the team played because they were winning.

It's not like it's just you that does this. Anyone who doesn't have some personal connection that makes them like a team is going to pick one of the best teams. It's common sense. But that still puts you into the category of bandwagon jumper. However, if you actually do develop that connection to the team and stay a fan when things go bad then you're a true fan.

It's not a personal attack, it's a natural progression.

Triple Naitch 01-31-2010 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Mask (Post 2920093)
cause my pa supported them (red sox, giants).

Also became a Laker fan because Shaquille O'Neal was my idol growing up. :-\

Requiem 01-31-2010 05:50 PM

Are YOU fucking kidding me Jeritron? Maybe you should read where I said someone ELSE made that point. It was Assman, actually, that made the point.

And that is the WHOLE point of this thread Jeritron.

If I don't agree with those reasons for picking a team, why should I use them to base my decision on?

Jeritron 01-31-2010 05:51 PM

The question I ask is, didn't you like football when you were younger, or do you have any relatives who like football?
This would solve the problem.

Or did this big decision come up in life a couple years ago?

Jeritron 01-31-2010 05:52 PM

I'm not as familiar with this as you think Requiem. Just heard about it. I honestly want to hear more.

I think it's hilarious how overthought it is. I'm so curious about why a decision had to be made in the first place.

OssMan 01-31-2010 05:55 PM

I root for the football and baseball teams my dad raised me to root for. I root for my local hockey and basketball teams.

Jeritron 01-31-2010 05:56 PM

"faggots on a wrestling forum"

Juan 01-31-2010 05:57 PM

I'm failing to understand why you made this thread if you don't care what a bunch of faggots on a wrestling forum think.

Team Sheep 01-31-2010 05:58 PM

Bloody hell you're still going on about this. It's your first season watching NFL and your team's in the Super Bowl. You haven't experienced your team properly lose a game yet. You're always going to be called a band wagon jumper, get over it. Making a huge ass thread defending yourself isn't helping yourself.

OssMan 01-31-2010 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Requiem (Post 2920082)
How would it look any different if I were to pick a shitty team (doesn't matter who), and then decide I don't like them and pick a different team? Should I root for a team I have no interest in just because a bunch of faggots on a wrestling forum think I am a bandwagon jumper because my team is good?

Yeah the thing is you analyzed all the NFL teams and then picked the best one because they "best fit your taste" or something. Yeah no shit, they have probably the best quarterback of all time and make the playoffs every year and just won a superbowl. You are a prime example of the bandwagon fan. No one is saying that you only root for the best teams and that you would abandon the Colts when they suck, but you went out and picked the best team in the NFL and now are trying to act like you are a die hard fan.

Jeritron 01-31-2010 06:02 PM

To answer your question I didn't pick my teams. I was born and raised in the Boston area and I've always liked them.
As I got older, I felt stronger about this and more independently, although that's obviously a result of my upbringing.

That's what I don't get. The "picking" and the "decision". If you had no interest in football, nor did your family when you were younger, why did you suddenly feel the need to go out and recruit a favorite team?
Was it so you could participate in sports discussion and rivalry? Or did you just want to watch a team with the hope of them winning so it could be a victory of sorts?
If so, seems convenient to pick one of the best teams of the decade.
Like Supreme says, it's not that it doesn't make sense. It's that it's obvious why it was done.

Your point about fanbases growing is broken. Fanbases are BASED in the area where they are the local team. That's the base. Those people are the fans, and there are exceptions who are from that area and move out.
The "growth" you speak of is bandwagon jumping. Plain and simple.
I'm a Patriots fan. Always have been.
If some kid from California decides one Tuesday to be a Patriots fan, that isn't "growth" of the fanbase or some natural thing in football. It's bandwagon jumping. It happens. It makes money. It's a part of football but that's what it is.

Where are you getting this notion that fanbases are supposed to grow and reproduce? They're supposed to make money, yes. But outside of the local support being rallied, I don't know where this athletic evangelist idea comes from.

Jeritron 01-31-2010 06:05 PM

It was an honor winning 3 superbowls in your face, anyhow. Best of luck next Sunday!

Jeritron 01-31-2010 06:07 PM

Did Madden games have anything to do with your choice?

Requiem 01-31-2010 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supreme Olajuwon (Post 2920099)
You might not have specifically said "I'm going to pick the best team," but subconsciously that's what you did. You liked the players because they were winning. You liked to way the team played because they were winning.

It's not like it's just you that does this. Anyone who doesn't have some personal connection that makes them like a team is going to pick one of the best teams. It's common sense. But that still puts you into the category of bandwagon jumper. However, if you actually do develop that connection to the team and stay a fan when things go bad then you're a true fan.

It's not a personal attack, it's a natural progression.

I guess I can give you that first bit.. However, that's the first time you've put it in a way that wasn't a personal attack. Even so, your post makes a lot of sense and I see where you are coming from. What I don't like, is how people discard something I say that is perfectly valid, and call me a bandwagon jumper and completely derail the discussion.

But, I had already said, BEFORE they even made it to the Super Bowl, that I would always be a Colts fan. It's the way they play, not the outcome, that made me a fan of them. If they do horrible next year, and even if they lose the Super Bowl this year.. I am not going to start talking about how awesome 'X' team that made the playoffs is, and how I think they are the best team ever and are going to absolutely destroy 'Y' team.

The only thing that could make me not a fan of them, is if they started acting differently all-together. If they weren't humble about their wins, or if they talked trash between games.. The fact that they DON'T bite on goading whenever other teams talk themselves up big, is a major reason I like them.



To the rest of you - Isn't watching football supposed to be FUN? I will admit that the reasons a lot of them act the way they do, is probably because of the fact that they are talented. To me, it was FUN to watch the Colts play all year. Their ability to comeback from deficits when it matters... just watching Peyton Manning throw the ball, and watching some of the fantastic performances by their rookie players this season, was FUN to me. Even just seeing how calm Caldwell was on the sidelines all the time made me appreciate them even more. That is why I started watching football, and why I like watching the Colts. My first NFL purchase is going to be a Garcon jersey when I have the money.

Jeritron 01-31-2010 06:11 PM

This is great

HeartBreakMan2k 01-31-2010 06:14 PM

Req stop worrying about what people think. Hell, when I started watching, the Bulls and the 49ers were the best teams going. I was like.. 6. Since they were the best thing going, they were the teams I had most exposure to so I became a fan. So I was a "bandwagon" jumper then, I've followed them ever since though so no one would ever say that I'm a bandwagon fan. I support the Panthers cause they're here and I love them, but the love is still there for the 49ers too.

Just like who you like and say fuck it.

Triple Naitch 01-31-2010 06:20 PM

Not liking a team anymore due to the players not playing with respect is pretty much band wagon jumping. You root for the name "on the front of the jersey" no matter what. You know how many times Papelbon, Schilling, and Larry Lucchino said stuff that made me sick to my stomach?

Ogen 01-31-2010 06:20 PM

Mostly because Paul McGrath put 11 Italians in his back pocket one sunny day in Giants Stadium, New York 1994.

RoXer 01-31-2010 06:21 PM

Baseball: Grew up in the Bay Area in the 90's but hated all local teams. I loved the Mariners because of Griffey/ARod/Buhner/RJ/Edgar/etcetcetc. I hated the A's when I was there. Then that whole Mariners core blew up and so I wasn't interested anymore. Then I moved out here and missed the A's so I started rooting for them. And the D-Backs had RJ so I didn't mind rooting for them either. So I guess tha'ts how my love for them grew.

Football: Grandfather rooted for Dallas, Mom roots for Dallas, and growing up that's who I rooted for. Moved out here and it was "lol Cards" mostly. I think 02 or 03 was when I started rooting for them. Like around the last year of McGinnis. And I remeber vividly the Nate Poole catch and not watching it because the game was blacked out so we watched the Green Bay game where they were chanting "Let's Go Cardinals". And then Making of Alphabean. And then telling everyone here the would win the West and it finally happened.

Basketball: Grew up in the Jordan era so DUHHH loved the Bulls and only them. I guess I liked the Raptors too during their first year. Loved the Peja/Bibby/Webber Kings. But now it's all Suns. And some love for the Warriors.

Hockey: who cares. I might go to a Coyotes game every now and then but I'm not really invested in anyone.


People will call you a bandwagoner for a very long time until you experience the lows of your team. Brush it off. Get over it. IMO, you're not a bandwagoner unless you jump ship when they're terrible.

Jeritron 01-31-2010 06:23 PM

lol Schilling says shit that makes me sick all the time. It would make you sicker if you lived here. He's involved in local politics and stuff.

Papelbon is a steakhead. Don't like him at all.

Jeritron 01-31-2010 06:23 PM

I will always remember my first "choice"

Triple Naitch 01-31-2010 06:25 PM

Part of me wants to see them trade Papelbon right now, but I know that Bard isn't totally ready to close.

McLegend 01-31-2010 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triple Naitch (Post 2920183)
Not liking a team anymore due to the players not playing with respect is pretty much band wagon jumping. You root for the name "on the front of the jersey" no matter what. You know how many times Papelbon, Schilling, and Larry Lucchino said stuff that made me sick to my stomach?

Just to be sure are you a Red Sox fan to?

Jeritron 01-31-2010 06:29 PM

Req, when you say you were a fan of them before they made the superbowl. Do you mean this year? or pre-2006?

Triple Naitch 01-31-2010 06:32 PM

Yes, I explained my reasons above.

Requiem 01-31-2010 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeritron (Post 2920104)
The question I ask is, didn't you like football when you were younger, or do you have any relatives who like football?
This would solve the problem.

Or did this big decision come up in life a couple years ago?

I did not like any sports when I was younger. I grew up on NASCAR (which is IMO, a sport), because my dad was a big fan. He raced sports cars in California for a while when he was younger, and his brother has season tickets to a couple tracks out there.

I am not an athletic person, so I never played sports and my family never cared for sports. No baseball, football, etc.. In fact, I still can not stand to watch baseball. I can tolerate hockey or soccer, but have no interest in them. Baseball however, I think is boring as shit.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeritron (Post 2920111)
"faggots on a wrestling forum"

Was not generalizing an entire forum as faggots. Was just pointing out THE faggots on a wrestling forum.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeritron (Post 2920129)
That's what I don't get. The "picking" and the "decision". If you had no interest in football, nor did your family when you were younger, why did you suddenly feel the need to go out and recruit a favorite team?
Was it so you could participate in sports discussion and rivalry? Or did you just want to watch a team with the hope of them winning so it could be a victory of sorts?

DS and I wanted a team to root for. We wanted to take part in the rivalry and discussion, and watch games every week and cheer for one team. MOST of my friends who watch football are Chiefs fans, with the exception of one Steelers fan. However, none of them really get together and watch football or anything.. some of them are REALLY into sports, and others just watch it from time to time and are 'fans' of their team. We wanted a team to root for TOGETHER. It honestly came down to a few teams. The Colts happened to be the one we both agreed on.

Since the pre-season began, DS and I have watched football every week. He was given a Donald Brown jersey for Christmas, and The NFL Redzone channel has been pretty much amazing for us. Let's us watch parts of ALL the games, which is pretty awesome.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeritron (Post 2920142)
Did Madden games have anything to do with your choice?

I had never owned a Madden game before I got my 360 a couple months ago, so no.

RoXer 01-31-2010 06:36 PM

Sounds like you and DS should decide which rings to wear for the rest of your lives too.

Jeritron 01-31-2010 06:37 PM

Who were the other finalists in the hunt for a team?

OssMan 01-31-2010 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Requiem (Post 2920146)
I guess I can give you that first bit.. However, that's the first time you've put it in a way that wasn't a personal attack. Even so, your post makes a lot of sense and I see where you are coming from. What I don't like, is how people discard something I say that is perfectly valid, and call me a bandwagon jumper and completely derail the discussion.

But, I had already said, BEFORE they even made it to the Super Bowl, that I would always be a Colts fan. It's the way they play, not the outcome, that made me a fan of them. If they do horrible next year, and even if they lose the Super Bowl this year.. I am not going to start talking about how awesome 'X' team that made the playoffs is, and how I think they are the best team ever and are going to absolutely destroy 'Y' team.

The only thing that could make me not a fan of them, is if they started acting differently all-together. If they weren't humble about their wins, or if they talked trash between games.. The fact that they DON'T bite on goading whenever other teams talk themselves up big, is a major reason I like them.



To the rest of you - Isn't watching football supposed to be FUN? I will admit that the reasons a lot of them act the way they do, is probably because of the fact that they are talented. To me, it was FUN to watch the Colts play all year. Their ability to comeback from deficits when it matters... just watching Peyton Manning throw the ball, and watching some of the fantastic performances by their rookie players this season, was FUN to me. Even just seeing how calm Caldwell was on the sidelines all the time made me appreciate them even more. That is why I started watching football, and why I like watching the Colts. My first NFL purchase is going to be a Garcon jersey when I have the money.

Yes watching football is supposed to be fun. That's why you can watch more than one game. I like watching the Colts, but just because they are awesome doesn't mean I am going to go and make them my favorite team. My team has sucked dicked for most of my life up until the last couple of years, and when that happens, it is more fun to watch other teams. I would never change teams though.

OssMan 01-31-2010 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ogen (Post 2920185)
Mostly because Paul McGrath put 11 Italians in his back pocket one sunny day in Giants Stadium, New York 1994.

new jersey

RoXer 01-31-2010 06:41 PM

That how it starts you know.

First football teams. Then you're looking at apartments together. Dexiding on whether to adopt a dog or cat. So you settle for a Korean boy. And then one from Africa. And then you grow old and go to broadway shows in adult life while your two kids care of you. And then you die.

Plenty of anal sex in between those moments though, don't worry.

Requiem 01-31-2010 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeritron (Post 2920202)
Req, when you say you were a fan of them before they made the superbowl. Do you mean this year? or pre-2006?

Before the 2009 pre-season began, but after the 2008 season Super Bowl was over.

I understood that they have won a Super Bowl in recent years, but I had never watched them play other than just video clips online. (with exception of one game I watched in 2007 where the Patriots beat them). I did not even watch the Super Bowl that they won.

You'd have to be an idiot not to have at least heard of Peyton Manning though. So yes, I did know who he was and I knew that he was talented and that they had won a Super Bowl. I also knew that Manning had been around for a while, and had only won the one Super Bowl, so I had no reason to think that they would make it to the Super Bowl so soon after. I certainly hoped they would.

Jeritron 01-31-2010 06:46 PM

So you didn't even watch football before this year? But now you're all excited about The Colts?

This has to be a big practical joke on all of us. No way something this absurdly tremendous is real.

I kinda picture you and "DS" as the kids from Weird Science. You one day decide that you want to be part of the action, but you don't now what to do. So you cook up some overthought plan to select a favorite team, and now you're "diehards" high-fiving on Sundays

Did you learn the rules to football before or after picking a team that you love with all your heart?

OssMan 01-31-2010 06:46 PM

I've never followed soccer, Jeritron will you follow with me and can a European poster please post an analysis of every football club (make sure to note best and worst qualities)

Jeritron 01-31-2010 06:49 PM

I would be glad to co-select a favorite team so we can be part of the rivalries and discussion.

I'd have to be an idiot to never have heard of David Beckham. Who does he play for? Maybe we can root for them

Triple Naitch 01-31-2010 06:49 PM

Who is DS? You watch football with your portable Nintendo system?

RoXer 01-31-2010 06:50 PM

Wow, what is you guy's problem? As long as he sticks with this team then who gives a fuck.

Jeritron 01-31-2010 06:51 PM

Is it empowering to call people faggots and talk about playing madden? Is it part of your new football fan gig?
Do you seek to be an e-jock douchebag to make up for your self-admitted lack of interest and talent in sports over the years?

Emperor Smeat 01-31-2010 06:58 PM

Not counting soccer since that was more of following the leagues and teams my father rooted for, usually I end up liking a sport or certain teams but wouldn't be a "fan" of a specific team until maybe a few years later once I got more interested in the sport. Most of the time, it ends up me supporting the local teams since they represent my area unlike other teams.

Boston Bruins is probably the team I've been a fan of the longest due to watching a lot of NHL as a kid and they were the team that showed up the most on tv.

Requiem 01-31-2010 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeritron (Post 2920216)
Who were the other finalists in the hunt for a team?

We pretty much just started knocking out teams on the list.. first, we knocked out Florida teams, because we know some people from Florida and definitely wanted to cheer against their teams. Went through our local teams like the Chiefs and Rams.. remembered how annoying Rams fans were when I was in grade school and they made the Super Bowl.. Then pretty much just started going down the list.. "Nah.. can't stand 'that guy or that guy', or 'their fans'" and whatnot. Like, during the Super Bowl, we were both pretty adamant about the fact that we couldn't stand the Steelers' stupid towel... etc..

Also, blue is my favorite color and I use it for pretty much anything I am given a choice to use it on in applicable situations. That actually did not play a part in the decision, but it fits well after the fact.

The finalists ended up being the Cowboys, Giants, Colts, and Vikings (before Favre was even in the picture)

DS suggested the Cowboys, and really tried to convince me on them. But, they kinda seemed like 'thugs' to me (idk why really.. I just didn't like them), so I couldn't agree on them. He also suggested the Colts.. I picked the Giants and Vikings. Ended up talking about it, and came to the conclusion that the Colts were perfect for us.

Jeritron 01-31-2010 07:00 PM

Renee Rancourt ftw

Jeritron 01-31-2010 07:01 PM

wow you wanted to be a Cowboys fan. You should have been that would have been tremendous. Great fit

FakeLaser 01-31-2010 07:03 PM

Baseball: Born a Yankee fan.

Football: Born a Giants fan.

Basketball: Grew up a front-running Chicago Bulls fan and then stopped watching basketball entirely. Don't really have a team now but have been calling myself an LA Clippers fan just because they're the worst franchise of all time.

Hockey: NY Rangers - always been a Ranger fan but I don't give a fuck about hockey.

College Football: Boise State - Been a Boise fan for like 5 years now. Just picked them at random and because of the blue field. Don't care about college football that much.

College Basketball: Seton Hall - because I went to school there. Also like North Carolina, always was a Carolina fan growing up probably because of Michael Jordan.

Requiem 01-31-2010 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeritron (Post 2920231)
So you didn't even watch football before this year? But now you're all excited about The Colts?

This has to be a big practical joke on all of us. No way something this absurdly tremendous is real.

I kinda picture you and "DS" as the kids from Weird Science. You one day decide that you want to be part of the action, but you don't now what to do. So you cook up some overthought plan to select a favorite team, and now you're "diehards" high-fiving on Sundays

Did you learn the rules to football before or after picking a team that you love with all your heart?

I was PUMPED about watching the Colts even before the pre-season began, so I don't know what you're getting at. Like, before I ever watched them play a game, I was getting into the spirit and was pretty excited to get to watch them for real.. Why would you not be excited to watch your team play?

And to everyone - DS is a former poster here, who introduced el fregadero and myself to this forum. He virtually never posted in the casual forum though, which is why some of you lot have probably never heard of him.

And yes, I already knew the rules of football (for the most part). I still ask things about it, and I am still learning about some rules.. but I am not a "Fallen Angel" on the situation or anything.

I don't watch, or even like, baseball.. but I understand how the game is played. Same with soccer, or golf.. I know how they work.

FakeLaser 01-31-2010 07:07 PM

Baseball is the best sport ever, BY THE WAY

Jeritron 01-31-2010 07:07 PM

I hate college football and one of the big reasons I don't like it is because I would have to "choose" a team.
As I've displayed, I think that's absurd and I just don't care
I also hate the culture. Dunno, prob because I'm not from the south

If I had to pick one it would be BC due to local allegiance, but I kind of enjoying hearing about when they lose (all the time)

Love College Baseball but I don't have a favorite team. Just enjoy watching it

Jeritron 01-31-2010 07:08 PM

Baseball is by far, like miles, the greatest sport of alltime. It's amazing. I could go on for hours about why I love it and why it's great

Fuck you for not liking it, and anyone else who doesn't

Jeritron 01-31-2010 07:10 PM

unique and diverse ballparks. history. a mix of individual and team sports. ONE ON ONE PITCHER/HITTER SHOWDOWNS. DEFENSE. BASERUNNING. PITCHER/BASERUNNER STANDOFFS
FENWAY FRANKS, HOME RUN DERBYS, BAHGAWWDDD WHAT A BASEBALL GAME

Requiem 01-31-2010 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AssMan (Post 2920218)
Yes watching football is supposed to be fun. That's why you can watch more than one game. I like watching the Colts, but just because they are awesome doesn't mean I am going to go and make them my favorite team. My team has sucked dicked for most of my life up until the last couple of years, and when that happens, it is more fun to watch other teams. I would never change teams though.

As I said, NFL Redzone channel has been pretty amazing for us this year. We do watch more than one game. Every touchdown from every game, and they switch between several games when there is no scoring happening.

Jeritron 01-31-2010 07:14 PM

yo watching the scoring isn't watching the game. Theres more to it than that. Just for future reference. I know you're new to this

Requiem 01-31-2010 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeritron (Post 2920256)
Is it empowering to call people faggots and talk about playing madden? Is it part of your new football fan gig?
Do you seek to be an e-jock douchebag to make up for your self-admitted lack of interest and talent in sports over the years?

What? I don't even know what you're getting at here, or what Madden has to do with anything being discussed... at all. Pretty much all 'shit talking' I have done has been to people who talked shit themselves.

Droford 01-31-2010 07:17 PM

Orioles, Capitals are local teams. Was a Redskins fan up until 1996 when the Ravens came to Baltimore. I tried to be a fan of both but ended up quitting the Redskins after the Ravens won the Super Bowl.

Requiem 01-31-2010 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Requiem (Post 2920308)
As I said, NFL Redzone channel has been pretty amazing for us this year. We do watch more than one game. Every touchdown from every game, and they switch between several games when there is no scoring happening.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeritron (Post 2920310)
yo watching the scoring isn't watching the game. Theres more to it than that. Just for future reference. I know you're new to this

It was great when you wanted to discuss something, but now you're just being a 'faggot'.

RoXer 01-31-2010 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Requiem (Post 2920312)
What? I don't even know what you're getting at here, or what Madden has to do with anything being discussed... at all. Pretty much all 'shit talking' I have done has been to people who talked shit themselves.

That's what I was going to say. I don't rember Req "starting shit". Or even starting a topic about the greatness of the Colts. Unlike someone we may know.

Jeritron 01-31-2010 07:18 PM

At least now I know not to take a word you say with any shred of credibility now. I can't believe you were jawing on and on about the worth of a superbowl and an undefeated season.

I'm also glad your team search did not lead you to The Pats

Jeritron 01-31-2010 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Requiem (Post 2920316)
It was great when you wanted to discuss something, but now you're just being a 'faggot'.

You said thanks to Redzone you do watch other games. No you don't. You watch touchdowns.
That isn't watching a game.
Again, I know you're new to this. You can call me a faggot all you like but you're becoming more and more of a clown with each post

Requiem 01-31-2010 07:19 PM

Then you are exactly the type of 'faggot' that this thread was intended for.

Requiem 01-31-2010 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeritron (Post 2920320)
You said thanks to Redzone you do watch other games. No you don't. You watch touchdowns.
That isn't watching a game.
Again, I know you're new to this. You can call me a faggot all you like but you're becoming more and more of a clown with each post

Hey look ma, there's bolded text in that thar post

Jeritron 01-31-2010 07:20 PM

Yea, switching to games when there is no scoring happening means you're seeing parts of other games. You're not seeing any real games. I don't know what the fuck you're getting at here buddy.
I know what RedZone is. It's not full games, and don't try to act like you didn't suggest it counted as such

OssMan 01-31-2010 07:24 PM

I wish I could choose Endicott College my alma mater for my college football team. But we don't have one I don't think. :shifty: I don't have a college football team, just a bunch of teams I hate. Kinda stupid, don't follow it much.

Requiem 01-31-2010 07:28 PM

Is that the only channel football is on? And did I say that was the ONLY channel I watched? No, you nit-picking fuck. Now you're just being a prick for the sake of it.

You apparently don't know that much about RedZone, or you're relying on the 'troll' portion of your brain a bit too much. Also, RZ does not show games that are the ONLY game on at the time - IE, monday night football, or games that were scheduled on off days. For those, ESPN or an antenna did the trick.

Jeritron 01-31-2010 07:28 PM

Who is our soccer team gonna be?

OssMan 01-31-2010 07:28 PM

People think Caps fans are bandwagoners because they are good for once and because they have Ovechkin. I agree for the ones who don't live anywhere close to DC but I don't think you can really be called a bandwagoner if you root for a local team, regardless of how long you have rooted for them.

OssMan 01-31-2010 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeritron (Post 2920333)
Who is our soccer team gonna be?

Manchester and Crystal Palace FC seem to be the front runners so far. DC United is only 20 minutes from me but I've never really been into them so I think we should rule them out.

Jeritron 01-31-2010 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Requiem (Post 2920332)
Is that the only channel football is on? And did I say that was the ONLY channel I watched? No, you nit-picking fuck. Now you're just being a prick for the sake of it.

You apparently don't know that much about RedZone, or you're relying on the 'troll' portion of your brain a bit too much. Also, RZ does not show games that are the ONLY game on at the time - IE, monday night football, or games that were scheduled on off days. For those, ESPN or an antenna did the trick.

You failed to mention any of that. You said RedZone provided you with the ability to watch other games.
It doesn't do that. What is this? The "I know more about RedZone than you" portion of this shit.
RedZone is brand new to football this year, just like you. It's for watching touchdowns and betting. It shows portions from other games when theres not a touchdown going on, but thats not often and is NEVER a full game.

Full games can be found on the other channels, and if you had any interest in them to begin with you wouldn't have had to pick a favorite team to get into football.

McLegend 01-31-2010 07:33 PM

I just would like to point out the RedZone channel is pretty awesome.

Jeritron 01-31-2010 07:33 PM

That last part of your post has no relevance to anything. It's just you spouting some stupid detail about RedZone.

In fact, all it does is further prove that you cannot watch a full game on RedZone. Only clips

Requiem 01-31-2010 07:39 PM

Never said "I know more about RedZone". You were the one who tried to say "I know what it is", but then turned around and made a dickish remark about it.

And I never said it lets you watch a full game. But it DOES stay on games when there is nothing happening, and when there are only a couple games left (or one game), it STAYS on games for very long periods of time.

How is that not superior to watching only ONE game, with teams you may or may not care about?

I DO watch full games on TV when that is what is on, or if that is a game I want to see. If monday night football is on, I will watch it. If there is a particular game I want to see, I will watch it. If a Colts game is showing, or a team I have an 'interest' in, to beat another team, I will watch it.

Stop being a nit-picker.

Team Sheep 01-31-2010 07:40 PM

In order of my favourite sports:

NFL: My first US holiday was in the Summer of 2005 to NYC. My hotel was right by the Jets offices in Manhattan with a big flag outside of it and thought that was pretty cool so I had a soft spot for them. I watched Super Bowl 39 that year so took a slight interest in the NFL. Started watching NFL after that summer and fell in love with it. Watched the Jets and liked what they were about so that's how it happened.

Rugby: Newport Gwent Dragons. My local team.

Football/Soccer: Newcastle United. Got into the sport in 2002 after the World Cup and followed the 2002/2003 season for the first time ever. Loved how Newcastle played and they had Welsh boys Craig Bellamy and Gary Speed playing at the time. Had a soft spot for them all season and then their character in the Champions League journey sealed it for me. Bellamy scoring the winner against Feyenoord in injury time to win 3-2 and go through to the 2nd group stage, amazing :D Sure you could say this is a bit of an example of bandwagon jumping, but to be fair I was an 11 year old just getting into football and they've been shit ever since that season and I've stuck by them.

Baseball: I try and follow baseball the best I can but it's difficult when the coverage is shit. I don't do enough to be a fan but the Mets are my favourite team because I went to a game at Shea Stadium during the aforementioned NYC trip and it was awesome. I follow the scores and such. Always sit and watch games through the Summer when they're on, they're just very sporadic and inconsistent and they never air whole series of games (apart from Sox/Yanks sometimes).

Jeritron 01-31-2010 07:42 PM

I will nit-pick you because you are a nit-wit

Requiem 01-31-2010 07:44 PM

Jeritron was one of the last people I would have expected to come in here and talk shit. Supreme managed to leave this thread with me having a higher opinion of him than before. You on the other hand, have managed to pull a complete 180 and while I generally liked you before, and was even HAPPY to discuss the topic of this thread, have made me lose all respect for you because of this conversation.

OssMan 01-31-2010 07:44 PM

If you are a true fan you would be in the team's jurisdiction, or if that isn't possible you would have NFL sunday ticket, or if that isn't possible you would go to some restaurant that has it, or if that isn't possible you would watch the game on some shitty internet stream, or if that isn't possible then you would follow the game on that online gameday thing and have that Redzone thing on. No excuses here

Jeritron 01-31-2010 07:47 PM

That's fine. This whole thing is so absurd to me, that I couldn't care less what you think. My opinion of you based on this whole team selection process would just be that you're silly as a football fan, but when you spazzed out and called people faggots, it just came across as a bitter kid who thinks hes a tough guy on the internet.

Requiem 01-31-2010 07:50 PM

And for the record, I am leaving now to go to a bar with a friend so that I can go watch the Pro-Bowl game in which my favorite NFL team's players will not be playing in because they are going to the Super Bowl where Jeritron's team is not.

To those of you who provided discussion without turning to childish methods to get a 'reaction', I applaud you. Especially Supreme, who showed that he could be the better man in a dispute such as this by not being a prick.

OssMan 01-31-2010 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Requiem (Post 2920369)
And for the record, I am leaving now to go to a bar with a friend so that I can go watch the Pro-Bowl game in which my favorite NFL team's players will not be playing in because they are going to the Super Bowl where Jeritron's team is not.

this sentence

Requiem 01-31-2010 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AssMan (Post 2920360)
If you are a true fan you would be in the team's jurisdiction, or if that isn't possible you would have NFL sunday ticket, or if that isn't possible you would go to some restaurant that has it, or if that isn't possible you would watch the game on some shitty internet stream, or if that isn't possible then you would follow the game on that online gameday thing and have that Redzone thing on. No excuses here

already said multiple times now that i do not only watch football on redzone

god you people are dense

Requiem 01-31-2010 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AssMan (Post 2920372)
this sentence

was on purpose

Jeritron 01-31-2010 07:52 PM

I'm jealous of both the fact that you're going to a bar, and that "your" team is in the Superbowl. The one you just starting rooting for this year. You're such a cool dude Requiem.

I watched the Patriots win 3 superbowls before you ever saw a snap.

In any event, I could care less about the pro-bowl. I think the majority of real football fans do. Write that down in your notebook.

Also, I think you should discuss this all with DS before you lose all respect for me. It's a big decision to make on your own after all

OssMan 01-31-2010 07:53 PM

I WILL NOW DEPART THE POSTING WEBSITE TPWW TO LEAVE FOR A DRINKING ESTABLISHMENT WITH A COMRADE WHO WILL ACCOMPANY MYSELF, WHERE WE WILL PARTAKE IN ACTIVITIES SUCH AS WATCHING A FRIENDLY MATCH OF ACCOMPLISHED FOOTBALL PLAYERS PIT AGAINST EACH OTHER, EXCEPT THE MEMBERS OF MY FAVORITE CLUB WILL NOT BE PARTICIPATING IN THIS MATCH BECAUSE THEY HAVE REACHED THE PINNACLE MOMENT OF THEIR SPORT WHICH YOUR FAVORITE CLUB HAS NOT REACHED

Jeritron 01-31-2010 07:56 PM

I'm so glad I chose a favorite football team this year so I can go to a bar and watch the pro bowl. HEYYYYY, YOU'RE PART OF IT!

Jeritron 01-31-2010 07:57 PM

Hey guys can you believe how awesome the pro bowl is? Man, football is great. I saw all The Colts touchdowns this year.

Fuck I wish I knew something about their defense

Jeritron 01-31-2010 08:00 PM

Gonna hold this thread down with all the faggots of TPWW while you're at the bar Req. Drink up!

Supreme Olajuwon 01-31-2010 08:03 PM

I think where the contention comes from is you just started watching football and having a team allegiance, but you're spouting off stats and historical significance like you're a lifelong fan. And whether it's your intention or not, that's gonna come off as some bandwagoner who just went to wikipedia to try and sound like he knows what he's talking about.

Jeritron 01-31-2010 08:05 PM

Jeritron's team is not in the superbowl, so he wins

The Mask 01-31-2010 08:16 PM

i dont know which teams assmang actually supports

Evil Vito 01-31-2010 08:20 PM

<font color=goldenrod>I just adopted all the teams my dad roots for (Mets, Giants, Knicks, Islanders)</font>

D Mac 01-31-2010 08:26 PM

Req, we need to go see a Chiefs game at Arrowhead sometime. When they get better of course. With the great Chiefs fans and the atmosphere at one of the loudest stadiums in the NFL, I bet you will change your tune.

D Mac 01-31-2010 08:27 PM

Or at least like them a little more anyway.

Droford 01-31-2010 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AssMan (Post 2920334)
People think Caps fans are bandwagoners because they are good for once and because they have Ovechkin. I agree for the ones who don't live anywhere close to DC but I don't think you can really be called a bandwagoner if you root for a local team, regardless of how long you have rooted for them.

I went to a game way back when the played at the Capital Center in Landover MD. Think it was 91 or 92. Petr Bondra, Pivonka, Hatcher, Al Iafrate and his really fast slaphot..Team was pretty good back then.

I still hate the Penguins for beating the shit out of them in the playoffs back in the 90s on a regular basis. I think there was a 4 OT playoff game in 96 that I stayed up to watch and ended up not waking up for school the next day. And I remember them getting destroyed in the finals by the Red Wings..

Mike the Metal Ed 01-31-2010 08:36 PM

I was born in Leicestershire and my dad is a Leicester City fan, therefore I support Leicester City.

In hockey, I wanted to follow a Canadian team and for whatever reason I started using the Senators in NHL games, so they became my team.


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