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Evil Vito 08-17-2017 10:12 AM

Element Games are hyping a "massive" character reveal tomorrow, saying only that it'll be the first time this person has made an appearance in the series.

Everyone's speculating people like Shaq, McGregor, Rousey, or the always-present Owen Hart rumors. But I'm not sure why Element Games would be given the first crack at revealing somebody important since that's usually IGN's gig. I'm guessing the hype will end up being a joke as the reveal ends up being Ellsworth.

#BROKEN Hasney 08-17-2017 10:18 AM

Congratulations to one half of AoP Razar

#BROKEN Hasney 08-17-2017 10:20 AM

Ah, I've just tracked it down. They've not been given anything from 2k, they apparently found out somehow. So they're not doing the revealing, that'll be IGN as per usual.

He can just talk about it Friday, which is likely when there will be another batch released.

#BROKEN Hasney 08-17-2017 01:51 PM

Gameplay shit

http://uk.ign.com/articles/2017/08/1...ealistic-match

Basically "better AI", "better lighting", carrying moves from the old SD V Raw are back, kickouts are harder and Baron Corbin mode made the cut

Quote:

Another new feature added, meant to enhance both gameplay and story, is the notion of the quick pin - the idea that one player can land a schoolboy roll-up or a crucifix-style leverage pin, ending a bout quickly, just like the matches on TV sometimes. To aid this, there are now 12 different new match interference scenarios - from run-ins to walk-ins to just entrance music blaring - that will create a targeted distraction and open up a quick pin window. After the bell, the loser, still with full energy, will then have the option of beating down whoever it was that just scored the "fluke win."

Kalyx triaD 08-17-2017 02:51 PM

On paper the idea of translating the pro-wrestling version of 'flash knockouts' is sound and accurate to the show, but this runs into an issue I've spoken about for years about the eternal contradiction of designing essentially a sports combat simulation... of an openly scripted sports entertainment show.

The win/loss conditions are based on an open ended fighting game technically speaking, but these are rules that honestly do not exist on the show. Superstars don't actually win or lose because of stamina management and physical strategy as with actual contact sports. The win/loss reality of actual pro-wrestling is who had the best match of the night. Who got the biggest pop, who got the night's big moment, who's capturing the crowd. These are what usually controls a wrestlers career (setting aside the politics).

But the games are designed with the ruleset and stratagem of pro-wrestling being a real thing. So we are asked to manage stamina, and drain HP, and work the limbs, and basically operate matches in a manner the real guys don't actually do. Who would win between The Rock and Bret Hart? In a bizarre way we know the answer better than these actual men would, if the in-game stats are accurate enough.

Until devs actually gamify the actual win/loss conditions of the real show, we will always have massive contradictory mechanics like Struggle Submission wins (dramatic on TV, bullshit in game), and flash pins (funny or shocking TV moment, extreme salt generator if a player loses that way).

For instance; while they finally added an old idea of mine that the counter window for high flying attacks should be from the opponent's launch rather than connection, it will still be something people will 99% want to avoid once they get the timing down. Imagine a real match where a guy avoids the shit out of every time somebody jumps from the top. Who would pay to see that, realistic as that would be. But a game that makes the real wrestlers end goal yours, well that's a game where maybe I'll take the dive - so I can 'sell' the attack and build sympathy from the crowd to pay off later on. I elaborated on the crowd sympathy thing a long time ago but the point is; that would actually be a pro-wrestling game, rather than a fighting game simulating a fake sport.

#BROKEN Hasney 08-17-2017 02:53 PM

I mean, that pin thing will likely just be Universe/Career where it makes sense.

Kalyx triaD 08-17-2017 03:02 PM

They explained that 'one player' can land it, not 'the' player. As in something that can be done to another player. It's a universal mechanic. Maybe it can be turned off in the options but still it's another sign of the real show and the game's rules butting heads.

Fignuts 08-17-2017 03:21 PM

One way they could solve the issue is to have the audience rate the match, and perhaps an in depth logic system.


Oh wait....

KIRA 08-17-2017 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 5003406)
One way they could solve the issue is to have the audience rate the match, and perhaps an in depth logic system.


Oh wait....

Hmm maybe somebody somewhere someday can make a game that isnt so much focused on graphic but gameplay....maybe it can just be 2d to scale back cost. Ah but one can dream......

Emperor Smeat 08-18-2017 07:19 PM

This year's soundtrack was announced to have been curated by The Rock.

Quote:

The publisher revealed that WWE legend and box office star Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson served as the executive producer of WWE 2K18's soundtrack. The superstar personally picked 11 songs of various genres, from rock and hip-hop to soul. The full list of tracks includes:

Blues Brothers – "Soul Man"
Boston – "Smokin'"
Bruno Mars – "Runaway Baby"
Disturbed – "Down With The Sickness"
Eazy-E – "Boyz-N-The-Hood"
George Thorogood & The Destroyers – "One Bourbon, One Scotch, One Beer"
Joe Walsh – "Rocky Mountain Way"
Kanye West – "Black Skinhead"
Kid Rock – "You Never Met a White Boy Quite Like Me"
Mayday (feat. Tech Nine) – "Last One Standing"
Tech Nine (feat. Krizz Kaliko, Serj Tankian) – "Straight Out The Gate"

The Rock says these songs were chosen because they are "some of [his] personal favorites to workout and get hyped to."
https://www.gamespot.com/articles/ww.../1100-6452644/

Kalyx triaD 08-18-2017 09:46 PM

Tech 9 did a song with Serj Tankian?

#BROKEN Hasney 08-18-2017 09:50 PM

Apparently so. I have it on PLay Next on Google Play after this Ataris song

#BROKEN Hasney 08-18-2017 09:51 PM

Where are you
Please believe in me
I'm not hanging up the phone
Until I hear you say
I love you
I need you near
Just give me one last chance
And I'll never let you down again

#BROKEN Hasney 08-18-2017 09:53 PM

"Don't try to nigga me" is a phrase, apparently

#BROKEN Hasney 08-18-2017 09:54 PM

Eh, Serj was only in the chorus so far and I'm not digging it.

Evil Vito 08-18-2017 09:59 PM

:lol: apparently the Element tweet hyping up a massive superstar debut was just meant to be for Bobby Roode, but IGN chopped they're balls off by just mentioning he was in the game in a random article days earlier. Roode is one of the handful of playable characters in the demo at 2k's SummerSlam event. Not sure why that was worthy of a cryptic tweet.....I mean I like Roode and all but his inclusion was kinda a no-brainer.

TJP confirmed too as he's also part of the demo.

#BROKEN Hasney 08-18-2017 10:01 PM

Roode, really? That contracted wrestler? lmao

Evil Vito 08-18-2017 10:02 PM

I mean, I was thinking it'd be Ellsworth which would at least have the whole blatant sarcasm thing going for it. Roode was always going to be in the game.

Evil Vito 08-18-2017 10:03 PM

If I get this game I'm so taking TJP's theme for my CAW and then beating his MRA ass to a pulp.

Frank Drebin 08-19-2017 02:29 AM

Interested to see Roode ' s entrance.

Gameplay or universe mode? Pffft

Gerard 08-19-2017 05:12 PM

Fuck me yet another new grapple system. Be more interested if they made these games from scratch over the period of 2-3 years instead of this yearly update which is really nothing more than tacked on shit. A lot of the same bugs still remain that are basically legacy issues from older iterations of the game.

They probably still won't let us import audio files on a hard drive to the game, obviously such an advanced option is too complex for them, ignoring the fact raw 2 had this option 14 years ago...

Fignuts 08-19-2017 06:08 PM

Audio importing isn't their fault. Sony and Microsoft stopped supporting it so they could pimp their respective music services. A few select games have the option, but it's stuff like MLB the show, which sony itself is involved in developing.

#BROKEN Hasney 08-19-2017 06:47 PM

Yoi can pretty much import and play anything on the PS4, all Sony changed is mp3 ripping and the codecs at the base level. This has been confirmed by Konami when talking about PES logo importing, saying they thought about audio too like crowd chants.

All it takes is effort and licensing codecs. But 2k gonna 2k.

Evil Vito 08-19-2017 10:19 PM

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The graphics look nice. The gameplay looks untouched and like it's the same old game.

Kalyx triaD 08-19-2017 10:38 PM

Commentary peaked at SvR2007.

SlickyTrickyDamon 08-19-2017 10:43 PM

Ring announcers peaked whenever Fink was replaceed.

#BROKEN Hasney 08-20-2017 05:40 AM

Commentary is improved via not having to hear Kings voice but other than that, jesus. NBA does it so well

Evil Vito 08-23-2017 01:43 PM

Roster Reveal Week 2

AJ Styles
Bayley
Becky Lynch
Bobby Roode
Brock Lesnar
Brutus Beefcake
Daniel Bryan
Earthquake
Eddie Guerrero
Edge
Ember Moon
Goldberg
Greg Valentine
Ivory
Jim Neidhart
Kerry Von Erich
Kevin Von Erich
Jey Uso
Jimmy Uso
John Cena
Kurt Angle
Larry Zbyszko
Maryse
Mickie James
Mojo Rawley
Naomi
Natalya
Randy Orton
Roman Reigns
Samoa Joe
Sasha Banks
Shinsuke Nakamura
Tamina
The Godfather
The Miz
The Rock
Triple H
Zack Ryder

Evil Vito 08-23-2017 01:49 PM

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Frank Drebin 08-23-2017 01:49 PM

Cool that Ember Moon is in. I'll give them credit for being smart enough to get in a slew of NXT talent rather than waiting until they're on the main roster with alot of the post WM call ups being left out.

If The Welfare Queen makes it, it's an automatic pre order.

Frank Drebin 08-23-2017 01:52 PM

Big Boss Man better have his "Hard Times" theme and not just the bunk generic "swat team" Boss Man theme.

#BROKEN Hasney 08-23-2017 02:02 PM

LMAO at Full Sail both sounding like shitheads before the entrance and singing along

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Optimus Bone 69 08-26-2017 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #BROKEN Hasney (Post 4988207)
Like, all my complaints would melt away if the Universe mode was actually as functional as it should be 6 years later instead of barely evolving, but they say they're improving it every year.

I am really looking forward to seeing the new graphics, but I'm not sure if that's to laugh at or be impressed by. Either would give me some fun.

id be happy is wins led to points which led to title matches not much to ask

Optimus Bone 69 08-26-2017 02:09 PM

I'll do what i always do buy it first day get drunk play it with the same guy ive always did it with think its amazing then sober up and hardly ever look at it again until i repeat for the next waste of money

Evil Vito 08-30-2017 10:44 AM

Week 3 Roster Reveal:

Akam
Alexa Bliss
Apollo Crews
Asuka
Big Cass
Carmella
Cedric Alexander
Chad Gable
Chris Jericho
Dana Brooke
Dash Wilder
Finn Balor
Jacqueline
Jason Jordan
Jimmy Garvin
Johnny Gargano
Kevin Owens
Lex Luger
Michael Hayes
Mick Foley
Mr. Perfect
Neville
Nia Jax
Nick Miller
Randy Savage
Razor Ramon
Rezar
Ric Flair
Rick Martel
Rick Rude
Ricky Steamboat
Rikishi
Roderick Strong
Rusev
Scott Dawson
Shane Thorne
TJP
Tommaso Ciampa
Tye Dillinger
Vader

#BROKEN Hasney 08-30-2017 12:36 PM

TWO MODELS

#BROKEN Hasney 08-30-2017 12:37 PM

if Universe mode was any good, I'd put Martel in the Fashion Police.

Roderick Strong making the cut does mean they're going deep on NXT though. Shame Drew showed up too late along with the ROH stable.

SlickyTrickyDamon 08-30-2017 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #BROKEN Hasney (Post 5006854)
LMAO at Full Sail both sounding like shitheads before the entrance and singing along

<iframe src="http://widgets.ign.com/video/embed/content.html?url=http://www.ign.com/videos/2017/08/23/wwe-2k18-bobby-roode-entrance-video" width="468" height="263" scrolling="no" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

This entrance alone might convince me to purchase. GLORIOUS!

XL 08-30-2017 02:47 PM

YES!! Nick Miller! Total Day One purchase!!!

A.J.K 08-30-2017 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by #BROKEN Hasney (Post 5009559)
if Universe mode was any good, I'd put Martel in the Fashion Police.

Roderick Strong making the cut does mean they're going deep on NXT though. Shame Drew showed up too late along with the ROH stable.

There's always DLC.


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