£30 at Morrisons. But I work there and it'a 15% discount day tomorrow.

you mean 5-7 years by the way

and lets be honest, GRRM will probably be dead before it ever gets released.

lol was actually thinking about that the other day. Guy is so heavy that it wouldn't surprise me if he keeled over of a heart attack or something before this ever gets finished. Dunno, now that the series is this popular, 3ish years may not be such a stretch. He may want to capitalize on it now, because... y'know.. money. Also, it will be about 7 years from now for all of the show to be done, assuming they do book 3 in 2 seasons as I've read they will. So, I would think he will probably plan to have the last book done for a tandem release when the final season of the show airs.

Well he did confide the story endings as he saw it to the producers and directors apparently JUST IN CASE. But he does not want anyone to write and finish the book series if he dies. Faggot.

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Fucking pumped for this season, especially with Spartacus done with its season.

Yea now that Spartacus is done with ive started watching Season of GOT.

Ive started on the first book but can someone tell me if the first book is the first season? or is the first season like half the first book? or a third?

The first season is the first book entirely. Or what they could fit in anyway; they do a valiant job of it regardless.

Or you could just, you know, stream it :shifty:

Was great to see it back. Although I really had no idea what was going on with the new characters (the Baratheons?), but I'm sure all the blanks will be filled in.

Read the books, Baird.

They each think they have the right to the throne. Stannis is the true heir (dude with the red priestess) and Renly is the youngest who we saw last season (who had the gay affair)

Episode 2 leaked btw...

where?

Nah I'm not going to read them until I've seen it on TV. I don't want to know what's coming.

Any torrent site on earth

I can't use torrents with my university net :'(

Thanks for the info about it being out though, will look for it on Rapidshare or something.

Well nevermind, got a stream.

After watching the second ep, it's pretty clear that they are gonna stray pretty far from the books to format it more like a TV show than the first season. In Season 1 they definitely kept that novel-esque feel to it, but I think the story is too massive in the second book to really take the same approach and fit it into 10 episodes (they would need at least 15 episodes to come close to doing the book justice).

Not that this is necessarily a bad thing...TV is it's own medium after all. And for the most part I like some of the stuff they've added in.

Ya I agree, I think it is a good direction they are taking as well.

I just buckled and watched the first season. I loved the first book and as strange as it may sound I didn't want the show to ruin my conceptions of the characters. They did a solid job though. Anyways...

Perhaps I didn't read closely enough or it was just thrown in, I never picked up on the fact while reading the first novel that Renly was gay or that the Knight of Flowers was gay.

They hint at it pretty strongly, especially in the second book. Stuff like the Rainbow Guard and how he is always dressed in the nicest clothes and would rather go shopping than fight etc

You are not missing anything. That is what happened.

They are doing some stuff out of order though in the show. In the books, they escaped the first assault on the group. Fire happened. Arya gives the axe to the criminals in the cage. Gendry, Arya, Hot Pie (fat kid) and Lommy (the kid who got stabbed in the throat), escape. Lommy's leg was injured like in the show, and slows them down a bit. In the books, Gendry doesn't confront Arya about being a girl until this point, while they're out on watch one day. But eventually, they are captured by soldiers under the command of Gregor Clegane (The Mountain). In the books, it is at this point that Raff the Sweetling stabs Lommy in the throat with a spear after finding that they'll have to carry him as he can't walk.

I believe the guy in charge of the group that attacked them was Ser Amory Lorch, a knight who is also a bannerman of House Lannister.

So basically, they just combined the two events. Not a big deal, as this stuff all happened pretty close to each other. In the books there was just a bit of character development between the two events. But yeah, that bit with the helmet and Lommy didn't happen in the books IIRC, so it was added to give closure to the situation I think.

A Clash of Kings is longer than the first book isn't it? Bound to have to try to condense things down a little.

I can't wait to see how Harrenhal looks.

Ya. Figured they would. However, I'm disappointed they didn't just add more episodes. Trying to cram a longer book into the same amount of episodes is just :(

Still, have read they will split book 3 into 2 seasons which is a big :D because if they had done that in 1 season of 10 episodes I might have not even watched.

You'll see next episode prolly. Don't want to ruin anything as I already know.

One of the few times they really touch on 'magic' in the series. All usually involving R'hllor, the 'lord of light'.

Read some review that was complaining about how many new characters we're introduced to suddenly, and yeah there are a lot of new ones, but I love a lot of them.

Brienne of Tarth is a pretty good character. Davos the Onion Knight is a great character too. Really enjoyed his parts in the books.

God I love Tyrion so much.

Joffrey is a little cunt!

Kinda bummed they didn't use more subtlety with the shadow creature. Thought they could have made it crazy/scary without making it look ridiculous.

To be fair I thought they would go like the book and reveal it looked like Stannis. They still might, but I think they will skip over the actual murder scene.

Brienne was cast very well in my opinion. I can totally see her playing Brienne The Beauty.

Also Harrenhal did not disappoint :y:

As someone who hasn't read the books I'll agree that there does seem to be a lot of new characters coming in thick and fast, a lot of whom seem to look pretty similar and whose names are mentioned once in passing and then never again. I can probably only name about 40% of the cast, if that.

I'm still enjoying the shit out of it, but there are times when I don't really have a clue what's going on and I can see a lot of people turning off this season. Then again it could just be me not really paying much attention. Everywhere I read though it almost seems as though you need to have read the books to fully comprehend what's going on.

They should probably just have the entire series centered around Bronn.

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Finally caught up on the whole series. Love it but, like Iginfest say, not entirely sure I get all of it.

Ask away, and I will be glad to explain anything I can that you don't understand, without giving spoilers.

Main thing about this season is just the amount of characters that get added to it. With everyone splitting up, there's just so many things going on around the world.

Also not enough of Daenerys getting banged from behind.

Bronn 'Theres no cure for being a cunt' excellent.