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slik 11-19-2018 10:08 AM
Wrestling News & Rumors
 
Probably time to start a new thread, RIP Smeat's classic Dirty Sheetz thread

And on that note...


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AJ Styles Negotiating With WWE, Looking For Reduced Schedule

Fightful.com was informed by two sources that former WWE Champion AJ Styles is currently negotiating a new contract with WWE after nearly three years with the company. We've been told that he wants a reduced schedule that resembles that of Randy Orton's where he'd work television and limited live event dates.


We were only able to get one of the sources to confirm that Styles and WWE were discussing a new three-year deal, and that Styles had advocated dropping the WWE Title recently because of the time he spent away from his family over the past year. Needless to say, Styles knows he has plenty of options outside of WWE if he opts to go that route.

https://www.fightful.com/wrestling/e...duced-schedule

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Chicago to host Survivor Series 2019

WWE announced via the Chicago Tribune that next year's Survivor Series PPV will take place at the Allstate Arena in Rosemont, Illinois on November 24.


With SmackDown moving to Fox, there will be a change to how WWE structures its "Big Four" weekends starting with Survivor Series 2019. The Allstate Arena will host four straight nights of shows, but they will begin with the go-home episode of SmackDown on Friday, November 22. NXT TakeOver will take place at the venue on November 23 and Monday Night Raw will be held on November 25.


All of WWE's "Big Four" events for 2019 have now been announced. Royal Rumble weekend is set for Phoenix, Arizona in January, WrestleMania 35 weekend will be in the New York/New Jersey area in April, and Toronto, Ontario, Canada hosts SummerSlam weekend in August.

https://www.f4wonline.com/wwe-news/c...es-2019-270521

slik 11-19-2018 11:03 AM
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Smackdown wasn't supposed to win the kick-off match

“So here’s the deal, okay? The storyline was supposed to be a clean-sweep for Raw and somewhere in the communications process, don’t as me why, SmackDown won that tag match so they had to tell everyone that it didn’t count.”


“That was the reason. One hand forgot what the other was doing. Vince wanted a clean-sweep and I don’t know how this happens, so yeah, it didn’t count.”

http://www.bodyslam.net/2018/11/19/w...ff-show-match/
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Kalisto injured during Survivor Series kick-off match

On the latest episode of Wrestling Observer Radio, Dave Meltzer talks about the incident and he reports that Kalisto was indeed injured and that he took himself out of the match. Gran Metalik quickly jumped in and took over for Kalisto and the match continued.


Regarding the spot where Kalisto exited the match and Gran Metalik took over, Metlzer said, “So Kalisto suffered a knee injury in the match and he just kind of got off the apron and then Gran Metalik got on the apron.”

http://www.bodyslam.net/2018/11/19/w...rvivor-series/

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Survivor Series was the first big 4 PPV without Cena or Reigns since Survivor Series 2007, per Reddit.

xrodmuc316 11-19-2018 01:59 PM
I don't understand the purpose of love events anymore, certainly not at the number they run.

Yeah, they are good to help guys get better, more reos, get used to working with somebody, ect.

WWE doesn't make much from live events, they shouldn't be wearing down guys like AJ who does not need to learn his craft.

Bad News Gertner 11-19-2018 02:19 PM
It serves a purpose of a lot of reasons. Most of the towns they run have arenas too small for a Raw/Smackdown/PPV. Plus it keeps their name around. The Indies all started because the WWE stopped running B and C shows in those towns. I love going to House Shows, even though I don't watch anymore. They are usually cheap, and you get to see the wrestlers work a different style than they do on t.v.

Fignuts 11-19-2018 02:25 PM
What is this news sponsored by? I don't believe anything without a sponsor.

slik 11-19-2018 02:51 PM
Sponsored by ur nuts

And Twizzlers

slik 11-19-2018 03:00 PM
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Potential RAW Spoiler - 11.19.18

EC3, Lars, and Bray Wyatt are backstage at RAW currently.
Whether they are used or not or there for meetings, can't say, but they are there.

credit - intern @ wwe

Mr. Nerfect 11-19-2018 06:24 PM
Man, you know what would be weird? Is if Vince McMahon feels like AJ Styles only being with them for three years doesn't qualify him for a part-time schedule, so he actually leaves the company and goes back to New Japan? AJ is the one guy I thought they wouldn't lose, but how surreal would that be?

ClockShot 11-19-2018 07:11 PM
Styles got a lot of leverage in contract negotiations right now if you ask me.

One of the main anchors on Smackdown right now and it's gonna be huge next year.

Then again, he can always go back to New Japan and pick up where he left off without any trouble, I bet.

Mr. Nerfect 11-19-2018 07:35 PM
I have no doubt Vince will give him what he needs. There's no way he's having Styles go back to New Japan in the wake of an MSG show and put over the main New Japan guys. He's also way too tied up in marketing (on the cover of the latest video game which is going to be in stores way past when this contract expires). AJ's age, the significance of the work he's put in, and his respect in the locker-room means that Vince won't be a stubborn prick about it. He might not care about AJ's body of work outside WWE, but he's not going to run him into the ground like he might some other talent that have only been there for three years.

The big concern about giving him a part-time contract is that it blows up his system if he gives a talent what they want, all the others are going to want it. But AJ is north of 40 and started last century. I think he's a different case, and I don't think you'd see a revolt in the locker-room because of it. But the next cycle for guys like Dolph Ziggler, Finn Balor, Shinsuke Nakamura and the like would then be interesting. But none of those three have been WWE Champion for north of a year and is depended on to carry shows and keep fans in with promise of a dark match.

But Vince can get all sorts of crazy shit in his mind, lol. If he decides "god damn it, pal" and won't come to the table, weird stuff could happen. I don't think it will, but it could.

xrodmuc316 11-19-2018 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by The Midnight Gertner (Post 5197666)
It serves a purpose of a lot of reasons. Most of the towns they run have arenas too small for a Raw/Smackdown/PPV. Plus it keeps their name around. The Indies all started because the WWE stopped running B and C shows in those towns. I love going to House Shows, even though I don't watch anymore. They are usually cheap, and you get to see the wrestlers work a different style than they do on t.v.
Sure, but guys like AJ Styles shouldn't be running that many dates. Leave that to the younger guys.

Mr. Nerfect 11-19-2018 08:25 PM
Yeah, but that wasn't Gerty's point. It was why they run shows in the first place.

slik 11-20-2018 11:26 AM
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Braun Strowman to have elbow surgery

On Wrestling Observer Radio, Dave Meltzer discussed the nature of Braun’s injury.


“Well, I guess the biggest news is that Braun Strowman is going to have elbow surgery so the deal tonight was a cover for that. He has bone spurs in the elbow. It’s touch and go whether he’ll be in San Jose for the match with Baron Corbin, the TLC match they announced. I guess it depends on the seriousness of the surgery. The belief is he’s fine for the Royal Rumble with Brock Lesnar. So that is the plan."


http://www.bodyslam.net/2018/11/20/r...attack-on-raw/

Simple Fan 11-20-2018 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by ClockShot (Post 5197730)
Styles got a lot of leverage in contract negotiations right now if you ask me.

One of the main anchors on Smackdown right now and it's gonna be huge next year.

Then again, he can always go back to New Japan and pick up where he left off without any trouble, I bet.
If he's wanting a lighter schedule I doubt NJPW would be his first choice but he could probably get a deal like Jericho. Doubt he leaves WWE though but it'd be crazy if he joined up with the Elite for what ever they're going to do in 2019. Also think he'd give Impact a listen if they came anywhere close on the money.

xrodmuc316 11-20-2018 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 5197733)
I have no doubt Vince will give him what he needs. There's no way he's having Styles go back to New Japan in the wake of an MSG show and put over the main New Japan guys. He's also way too tied up in marketing (on the cover of the latest video game which is going to be in stores way past when this contract expires). AJ's age, the significance of the work he's put in, and his respect in the locker-room means that Vince won't be a stubborn prick about it. He might not care about AJ's body of work outside WWE, but he's not going to run him into the ground like he might some other talent that have only been there for three years.

The big concern about giving him a part-time contract is that it blows up his system if he gives a talent what they want, all the others are going to want it. But AJ is north of 40 and started last century. I think he's a different case, and I don't think you'd see a revolt in the locker-room because of it. But the next cycle for guys like Dolph Ziggler, Finn Balor, Shinsuke Nakamura and the like would then be interesting. But none of those three have been WWE Champion for north of a year and is depended on to carry shows and keep fans in with promise of a dark match.

But Vince can get all sorts of crazy shit in his mind, lol. If he decides "god damn it, pal" and won't come to the table, weird stuff could happen. I don't think it will, but it could.
The real difference with AJ over Finn, Dolph, Shin, ect is that none of them are "Vince's Guy". I know that is an unexpected thing, but for whatever reason Vince decided AJ is one of his top guys, something he has thought about very few people over the years.

AJ will get whatever deal he wants like Cena, Orton, Taker, or HBK.

Leaner gets it because he went and did good in UFC, not because he was Vinces guy. It's why Lesnar left the first time, and why WWE tried to use him for it.

Aside from the above 4 I mentioned, I think the only other ones who have that kind of pull to carve their own deal besides AJ would be Daniel Bryan and Jeff Hardy.

Mr. Nerfect 11-20-2018 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5198290)
The real difference with AJ over Finn, Dolph, Shin, ect is that none of them are "Vince's Guy". I know that is an unexpected thing, but for whatever reason Vince decided AJ is one of his top guys, something he has thought about very few people over the years.

AJ will get whatever deal he wants like Cena, Orton, Taker, or HBK.

Leaner gets it because he went and did good in UFC, not because he was Vinces guy. It's why Lesnar left the first time, and why WWE tried to use him for it.

Aside from the above 4 I mentioned, I think the only other ones who have that kind of pull to carve their own deal besides AJ would be Daniel Bryan and Jeff Hardy.
You're right. I don't think the AJ thing is a mystery though. The dude is so fucking talented and knocked everything they gave him out of the park.

xrodmuc316 11-20-2018 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 5198332)
You're right. I don't think the AJ thing is a mystery though. The dude is so fucking talented and knocked everything they gave him out of the park.
Right, not at all surprising from AJs talent point of view, it's just strange that for a long time Vince refused to even sign people from Impact to THE guy from their being one of Vinces guys.

Mr. Nerfect 11-20-2018 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5198395)
Right, not at all surprising from AJs talent point of view, it's just strange that for a long time Vince refused to even sign people from Impact to THE guy from their being one of Vinces guys.
Vince probably never saw him. And if he did, he probably thought he wasn't the right fit for WWE. When he came in to WWE, it really felt like they were just going to use him as a new toy. Almost to gloat that they can get anyone they want. But he got that reaction in the 2016 Rumble and got to work with Jericho, he played ball and didn't whinge when he was asked to lie down, and then had a phenomenal match with Roman Reigns and energized everyone when he went against Cena. They didn't let him talk at first, but then he cut some fine promos and I can just envision him winning Vince over.

It's more to do with AJ being really good once he got there than anything AJ did prior that has gotten Vince to enjoy him, I think.

Big Vic 11-21-2018 10:13 AM
AJ probably moves merch.

slik 11-21-2018 10:15 AM
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Alexa Bliss to be named new RAW GM?

On the latest audio update of PW Insider Elite, Mike Johnson noted how he had heard Alexa would become the RAW General Manager after TLC.


“The impression that I have is that she went through some medical testing while she was in Los Angeles and that there was no clearcut indication that she was returning to the ring anytime soon. It doesn’t mean that it’s not going to happen. That’s to the best of my knowledge it’s not a Paige situation where she’s been permanently sat out, but it did seem like, ‘Ok in two weeks you’re going to be good to go, or in three weeks you’re going to be good to go.”


“It’s still very much up in the air. They’ll probably still keep testing her. There was some expectation backstage at Raw that when they come out of TLC Alexa Bliss will probably end up the General Manager of Raw which makes sense when you think about it but given how they change ideas so quickly I don’t know that definitely 100% the plan.”

http://www.bodyslam.net/2018/11/21/r...neral-manager/

Big Vic 11-21-2018 11:01 AM
Did Nia injure her too or someone else did?

slik 11-21-2018 11:09 AM
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Notes from Brad Shepard podcast 11.21.18

* Axxess will be held in Brooklyn this year. Not at Barclays Center obviously, but one of the convention centers in Brooklyn.


* AJ has been working a little hurt. Nothing major, just a little hurt.


* HBK will definitely wrestle again, likely at WM35.


* Expect more part-timers to return for limited schedules and/or work tag matches in the future.


* Despite Vince McMahon saying XFL would be entirely separate from WWE there is XFL stuff all over WWE HQ in every department. The WWE staff are basically doubling as XFL staff in numerous areas, despite already having a full plate handling current WWE needs. This will likely continue and isn't something many are pleased about in Stamford.


* A lot of people in Corporate WWE are not fans of HHH. They think he's great at handling creative/booking and inspiring talent, and obviously knows the wrestling aspect extremely well, but he is often the subject of eye-rolling and fist palms on anything related to the business side of WWE. He is described as very much "in over his head" and "clueless" and many hope he doesn't gain further power in WWE on the executive level.

credit - Oh You Didn't Know podcast on SoundCloud

slik 11-21-2018 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Big Vic (Post 5198771)
Did Nia injure her too or someone else did?
I actually don't remember how Bliss got concussed...I think Ronda maybe?

Mr. Nerfect 11-21-2018 05:21 PM
The Triple H thing is interesting, because I was talking to someone that was claiming to know someone on the inside, and they heard the same thing. They often have to send Barrios to clean up his messes.

I doubt Triple H will actually run the business side of things. That will be Stephanie. Triple H will just be creative/talent relations, etc.

It's a shame about Bliss. I'm not a big fan (obviously), but it sucks when someone is out. She is better as a character than as a wrestler though, so this might be good for her. She can focus on doing one thing at one time.

slik 11-22-2018 11:19 PM
From this week's edition of The Wrestling Observer/ WO Radio


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Seth vs Brock scheduled for WrestleMania 35

Vince McMahon has been in a shaking up plans mood, Lesnar is right now scheduled to face Seth Rollins at WrestleMania 35. I haven’t been directly told Lesnar is beating Strowman again, as that would make his third singles PPV win over Strowman. However, Lesnar vs. Rollins is scheduled to play off Roman Reigns leukemia in some fashion, so Reigns’ name and illness are scheduled to be used in storylines going forward.



Ronda Rousey heading into WrestleMania 35

Rousey, Flair and David Finlay trained extensively in Southern California from 11/14 to 11/17 for the Survivor Series bout. People in WWE, as well as Rousey, are pulling for her feud with Nia Jax to be a short program. This is being meant as a temporary thing for Rousey as she wants her focus to be on Charlotte Flair next before moving back to Becky Lynch at WrestleMania 35.



All Elite Wrestling

The revelation of certain trademarks that have been filed looks to answer questions about the probable destination of The Young Bucks, Cody, Brandi Rhodes and Hangman Page.


A group using the address of the Jacksonville Jaguars football team filed for several trademarks on 11/5, the key being All Elite Wrestling, the name of the promotion, along with AEW, All Out, Double or Nothing, AEW Double or Nothing and Tuesday Night Dynamite. Normally trademark filings would hardly be a big deal. But the key is All Elite Wrestling is the name of the group, and The Young Bucks and Kenny Omega own the Elite name for marketing purposes.In addition, Double or Nothing was known to be the name of the second All In show, an idea for a show on a holiday weekend in the second quarter of 2019 in Las Vegas. This show is not confirmed by any means, but it was an idea and that was the name of it.


The Jacksonville Jaguars, as well as Fulham FC of the English Premier League, are owned by Shahid Khan, 68, who Forbes Magazine once called the face of the American Dream, and as the 70th richest man in the U.S. and 221st richest man in the world with a net worth of $7 billion. He recently attempted, although the bid fell through, to purchase Wembley Stadium. His son, Tony Khan, 36, is a huge wrestling fan and is the person behind AEW. Khan is a well-known pro wrestling fan. He has been an Observer subscriber since he was a teenager and even sent in live event reports. He was part of some Internet wrestling groups. He knows many of the biggest names in wrestling and was considered one of the best friends of The Young Bucks.



NJPW's Tokyo Dome show to air on US Cable Station AXS

New Japan and AXS TV have announced same-day coverage for Wrestle Kingdom 13, but in limited form. The top two hours of the show will air on an approximately 14-hour tape delay on AXS TV after airing live on New Japan World, from 8 to 10 p.m. Eastern time. AXS is scheduling five hours for Tokyo Dome matches, with another two hours from 8-10 p.m. on 1/11 and one hour on 1/18.


“Same-day coverage of NJPW’s Wrestle Kingdom 13 ushers in a new era of NJPW on AXS TV,” said AXS TV Fights CEO Andrew Simon. “Based on the tremendous growth of NJPW on AXS TV, we are making major changes to reward wrestling fans by delivering NJPW in prime time on Friday nights as close to when it takes place as possible.” New Japan has been a success to a degree on AXS TV. As of press time, their TV numbers have been up 18 percent from 2017 (they were slightly over 200,000 in 2017). NJPW is currently drawing higher ratings than IMPACT.


AXS also announced that New Year’s Dash, which takes place on 1/5 at Korakuen Hall, which is basically New Japan’s version of the Raw after WrestleMania, which sets up the angles for the next several months, will air in one hour form on 2/1.



NXT Takeover

Shawn Michaels was the agent who put together the War Games match at NXT Takeover.



Owen Hart

A documentary is being done on the life of Owen Hart by Curate Films of the U.K. Keaton Stone is doing the project and he’s going to Japan to interview people there who knew him. Martha Hart is cooperating with the documentary and both Bret Hart and Natalya have been interviewed



IMPACT looking for a new cable home

IMPACT has had talks with WGN America, Tru TV and Syfy to host the series when the deal with POP TV ends in early 2019.



NXT As A Global Brand


Some more regarding the expansion of NXT territories. They are actually working very hard right now to get things going and there is likely to be an announcement within the next few weeks regarding a second Performance Center, likely the U.K. Plans are on for WWE within a few years to be in every major wrestling geographical area in the world, as well as Saudi Arabia with the long-term goal of running a regular regional promotion in that area. This does include Japan, as well as Germany, South America and Australia.



NXT Takeover: UK

There are plans right now for U.K. Takeover specials in 2019, not every few months although obviously everything depends on how well they are received.


Two PPVS between Royal Rumble and WrestleMania 35

WWE is doing something different this year with two PPVs in between Rumble and WrestleMania instead of one. For the first time in many years, they are doing a non-Mania March show, and only doing four weeks of direct Mania build instead of the usual seven or so. The Elimination Chamber PPV will be 2/17 in Houston. They are also doing a Fast Lane PPV on 3/10 in Cleveland.



SmackDown LIVE on FOX

Here are a few more notes regarding tentative plans for October. There was speculation going around that with the move to FOX that they would go to one brand because they would need all the top stars on FOX because of how important network prime time numbers are. That was denied to us and said that FOX doesn’t really want to cross-promote the same talent as NBC Universal and the expectation is split crews would remain. We are still more than ten months away from launch and anything could end up happening.



Shane McMahon

The storylines to follow-up Shane winning the World Cup are still scheduled but now for the first quarter of the year to presumable set up Shane's WrestleMania program.



The time Kofi Kingston challenged Vince McMahon to a drunken fight

Jericho told a story on a recent podcast about Vince McMahon and Kingston from 2010. Jericho, Vince, Cena, Kingston and John Laurinaitis were flying from Nashville to Phoenix for a press conference for that year’s WrestleMania. They were all drinking and by the time the four-hour flight landed they were all drunk. Kingston got up to leave and Vince said, “Maybe you’ll get over one of these days.” Kingston ignored it. Jericho then went to Kingston and told him to go back on the plane and challenge Vince to a fight right there. “If you don’t, he’ll know he can walk all over you whenever he wants. If you challenge him, he’ll love it and respect you for it.” Jericho noted he wasn’t ribbing at all.


Kingston thought about it for a few seconds and went back. Kingston went to Vince and said, “Vince, do you have a problem with me?” Vince looked surprised and said, “Maybe I do. Do you want to do something about it?” Vince again looked at him and said, “Do you want to do something about it?” Kingston said, “Do you want me to do something about it?” In the middle of the sentence, Vince went for a double leg. “They both went down and rolled around and Vince started laughing and said, “That’s the way to do it” and he got off the plane.

slik 11-23-2018 12:35 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Hacksaw Jim Duggan has been hospitalized. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWE?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWE</a></p>&mdash; WWE Talking Points (@WWETalkingPoint) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWETalkingPoint/status/1065829427530088450?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 23, 2018</a></blockquote>
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mike adamle 11-23-2018 01:41 PM
I'd be cool with Lesnar-Rollins but I really want a Lesnar-Bryan rematch at Mania

Mr. Nerfect 11-23-2018 05:38 PM
That Vince/Kofi story is amazing.

I always assumed it would be Lesnar vs. Rollins at Mania, probably with Roman coming out to hug Seth afterwards. Truth be told, I've always expected that to be the main event-main event, despite all this talk about the women getting it.

Seth is also my pick to win the Royal Rumble at this point, as that sets up the story the best, since there's no real "heat" reason for Brock and Seth to get into it. On the SmackDown side, I'd like to see Bryan vs. Cena, in truth. There's enough behind that match to make it feel special, and I can see them actually getting Cena to do something important with Triple H out and all that. Bryan vs. Michaels would be cool, but I just don't see them going that route. I've got this bad feeling it's going to be Bryan vs. Bray Wyatt though. I don't know why, I can just see Bray coming back to feud with him given all their "history."

Evil Vito 11-23-2018 05:41 PM
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Lars Sullivan might be the latest example of you need to be careful what you write on social media because you never know when it could come back to haunt you. We previously reported how Sullivan under the username “Disenfranchised” made a pretty racist joke on a bodybuilding message board followed by a homophobic comment about NFL quarter Philip Rivers. He also called out KFC for being “lower class food.”

But apparently, he also made some comments WWE’s Chief Brand Ambassador Stephanie McMahon who also happens to be the wife of Sullivan’s NXT boss, Triple H. This doesn’t help that Steph is also the daughter of Sullivan’s overall boss Vince McMahon.

Under the Disenfranchised name, Sullivan commented on a video of Stephanie McMahon saying, “Very sexy, Thanks for the fap vid.” But then his account was soon banned for a plethora of apparent reasons probably due to his abusive language.

When asked to clarify what McMahon said in an old K-Rock interview with Howard Stern, apparently Sullivan remembered what she had to say when he replied: “She was a good sport and went along with the sexual answers Howard threw at her. It’s been several years since it aired but I remember her talking about getting it ‘hard’ and ‘soft’ from HHH. No anal ‘yet.’ And she’s completely shaven.” Those are some very personal things to know about your bosses’ wife and daughter, especially if you’re going to talk openly about it.
http://www.ringsidenews.com/2018/11/...-board-battle/
http://www.ringsidenews.com/2018/11/...l-quarterback/
http://www.ringsidenews.com/2018/11/...-class-people/

Evil Vito 11-23-2018 05:44 PM
Would be pretty fucked if he lost his push or his job over dumb stuff he said as a teenager.

I would, however, like to know what Stephanie vid he knocked one off to. Just for research purposes.

Mr. Nerfect 11-23-2018 05:51 PM
*exhales with emphasis*

Mr. Nerfect 11-23-2018 05:51 PM
All you can do is wear it, apologize to parties it directly affects and demonstrate that you've grown.

Damian Rey 2.0 11-23-2018 06:03 PM
No no no. The correct response is to fire him immediately. Get with the times, Noid.

Mr. Nerfect 11-23-2018 07:17 PM
Hey, that's the company's prerogative. All he can do is grit his teeth and do his best.

Evil Vito 11-23-2018 08:00 PM
Ok, so apparently some of his racist and homophobic posts were traced back to 2013 when he was 25 years old. Okay, that’s pretty bad.

Evil Vito 11-23-2018 08:00 PM
http://content.invisioncic.com/r2295...9e0007c82.jpeg

Mr. Nerfect 11-23-2018 09:13 PM
Yeah, that doesn't bode well from a PR perspective. That's way too recent and way too old to be clueless.

Mr. Nerfect 11-23-2018 09:15 PM
Good news is that fans can ask what is Kevin Von Trier doing in the Impact Zone?!

Mr. Nerfect 11-23-2018 09:38 PM
Apparently things are still up in the air about whether or not Hiromu Takahashi will be able to return to wrestling at all. Do you think there is a lesson in this? We've seen a lot more careers ending prematurely than I can ever really remember due to injury. Or am I just being pedantic?

Black Widow 11-23-2018 10:15 PM
I'm gonna buy one of his shirts.

RP 11-23-2018 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Black Widow (Post 5199286)
I'm gonna buy one of his shirts.
Why? Did he say he hated black people?

Black Widow 11-24-2018 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by RP (Post 5199292)
Why? Did he say he hated black people?
What it seemed like to me.

Evil Vito 11-24-2018 09:38 AM
Black Widow flicks her clit to racism

slik 11-29-2018 08:44 AM
From this week's Observer:


https://i.imgur.com/IfNGyEI.png



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NJPW/Japan notes from Meltzer


* The company has a long-term vision for Europe as part of its world expansion, but right now the goal is to get television in as many markets in Europe as possible before doing anything else.


* On Twitter, somebody unearthed perhaps the most unique wrestling product endorsement of all-time, from the 50's in Japan where they had newspaper and magazine ads for Rikidozan vibrators. In the 00s, during the Bob Sapp phenomenon, they had Bob Sapp dildos.

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ROH/ALL IN

* Silas Young was offered a new three-year deal that right now he’s expected to accept. There were rumors of him leaving because he was at the 11/26 Raw show, but he was there because his son, a big WWE fan, wanted to attend.


* Stephen Amell revealed that he suffered a fractured left hip doing the ALL IN match with Daniels. This came during the middle of filming the “Arrow” series. He noted that the episode that aired on 11/26 was the one right after suffering the injury.

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WWE

* With Christmas Eve and Christmas Day and New Year’s Eve and New Year’s Day coming on Mondays and Tuesdays this year, they are taping television ahead of time both days. Given the holidays and the overall declining trend of the ratings, these shows are likely to do the lowest ratings in the history of Raw and the lowest ratings for Smackdown since it’s move to Tuesdays.


* One wrestler with experience working with tables, ladders and chairs noted to us that putting Strowman in a TLC match coming back from elbow surgery, if he indeed does do the show, is the worst thing possible. It was noted that the worst thing about working with tables, ladders and chairs is the damage it does to your elbows. Unless you want to get your face and head destroyed, you have to get your arms/hands up for all the chair and ladder shots and they almost smash the hell out of your elbows.


* Big Show, who talked of retirement previously, has signed a new multi-year deal that will keep him wrestling in WWE for the foreseeable future.


* Big Show is taking time off due to being immobile because of injuries, which is why he turned face on SMACKDOWN LIVE as a way of writing him off television.


* Shane Helms is coming into Orlando this week as he is next to coach at the PC. Helms will also be working as an agent at NXT house shows. If this goes well it's expected he might be offered a job full-time in either position.


* Meltzer on this week's RAW - This show was pretty bad. Boring, almost nothing good past the last few minutes of a Rollins vs. Ziggler match and some of the worst overacting by Roode in a segment where Maverick pissed on his robe. The Ambrose segments in the doctor’s office and the Maverick pissing on Roode’s robe were outdated comedy and didn’t work. Yes, Vince McMahon wrote much of the show himself this week. Raw really feels like it’s missing star power. The stuff with Ambrose comes across like a desperate idea to get him booed. The heel turn just isn't working very well so far.


* RAW had 7,500 fans in attendance this week. SMACKDOWN LIVE had 8,000 fans in attendance this week.


* Meltzer on Rusev - Rusev is less over without Aiden English and English has been written off of television and is being used instead as the Curt Hawkins of the house show tours. Change for the sake of change that results in everyone being less over is not creativity, it’s stupidity.

Evil Vito 11-29-2018 09:32 AM
lol signing Big Show to a multi-year deal only for him to go back offscreen again. Excellent con job for him.

Big Vic 11-29-2018 12:35 PM
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He also called out KFC for being “lower class food.”
Oh no fire him.

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* Meltzer on Rusev - Rusev is less over without Aiden English and English has been written off of television and is being used instead as the Curt Hawkins of the house show tours. Change for the sake of change that results in everyone being less over is not creativity, it’s stupidity.
Knew that would happen.

slik 11-29-2018 04:39 PM
One more thing I missed from today's Observer

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All Elite Wrestling

* At a meet and greet in Melbourne, Australia, Cody was asked about a new promotion and said to wait for January as an announcement will be made, and said the announcement would be bigger than anyone expects.

slik 11-29-2018 04:44 PM
https://i.imgur.com/sDIWxLk.png

ClockShot 11-29-2018 05:05 PM
Yeah, who'd wanna buy an XFL team? :roll:

Franco Vazquez 11-29-2018 06:29 PM
Cody and Elite should be going to WWE rather than being ambitious to start their own promotion.

slik 11-29-2018 08:50 PM
Oh You Didn't Know Podcast w/ Brad Shepard

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* Vince's opinion of ALL ELITE WRESTLING - “So I talked to some sources in the company about this and it was pretty clear that hardly anybody cared about All Elite Wrestling. In fact, they went on to question the credibility of Dave’s source and elaborated that the very idea that WWE would give Cody’s potential company that much credit to the level where they try to lock their talent up is nuts.”



* Florida is likely to land WrestleMania 36. Minnesota isn't really being talked about at all by anyone in WWE. No specific city yet but it seems to be between Orlando, Miami, Tampa and Jacksonville. Reiterates Vince loves Florida and New Orleans for WrestleManias more than anywhere else.

Seattle & St. Louis two of the cities getting XFL Teams.

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Splaya 11-29-2018 10:56 PM
Please give Detroit a team. It would be so much better than the shitty Lions

Mr. Nerfect 11-30-2018 11:39 AM
Kind of got a feeling that All Elite is either going to be on TNT or Netflix.

Splaya 11-30-2018 11:49 AM
Lol there is no medium there noid

Mr. Nerfect 11-30-2018 12:00 PM
Well, they are different delivery mechanisms of televised content.

Mr. Nerfect 11-30-2018 08:51 PM
Would you trademark the name for a show and tease all these announcements re: your promotion that everyone assumes will be getting a show, if you didn't have a deal locked? I criticized Cody for the "Field of Dreams" approach to promoting All In, but it seems even more cart-before-the-horsey to promote something "big" re: these trademarks if you don't have anything big. Surely they've learnt from TNA?

That's why my feeling is TNT. It's got a larger penetration than USA and has had wrestling in the past. The name "Dynamite" suits the station too. But that could be an innocuous coincidence. I don't think a deal with WGN America has that big a pop to it, and I don't think that's "bigger than expected."

But with TV being archaic, you have to think that streaming is the future. But there are all these separate networks. Disney has one coming out. It's all a bit much. Piggy-backing off an existing one makes the most sense. Content is what keeps these things chugging along, and having weekly wrestling content (or even monthly) is something that hasn't really been trialed by an OTT service.

Netflix has GLOW. They've done some crossover work with WWE, but maybe they are looking for actual wrestling content for their service now? Netflix does differ between countries, but it potentially allows All Elite to have an instant global audience.

If I were them, I'd probably try and get a limited run series on Netflix or Disney -- maybe that is the "All Out" trademark -- and use that as an advertisement for my cable television program, and try to use that to segue international television deals to ride that last wave of TV momentum as it fizzles out, but ensuring you have a foot in the door for later streaming content.

Say you can get 10 episodes on Netflix/Disney. You can tell a complete arc, crown your champions, whatever. You can even end on a cliffhanger. You can promote the show on TNT, but the streaming content can live on and serve as a constant introduction to the world of All Elite.

You can do your Double or Nothing show and try to top All In, but you can also keep "All Out" as a limited run Netflix/Disney series and maybe add a "season 2" (for lack of a better term) the following year, if there's the demand for it, and use that to try and triangulate your audiences.

So you basically run basic cable weekly, the world's largest streaming service for a limited time each year and iPPV. So their Tuesday Night Dynamite show is something like SmackDown, All Out is more like an NXT Takeover and their yearly PPV is like their attempt at "their version of WrestleMania." Realistically, I think they could get away with two. Keep the All In period and try and use that to get people in yearly and also try and jump on WrestleMania weekend.

Mr. Nerfect 11-30-2018 09:04 PM
Actually, a shower thought I just had: Cody said this in Australia. Presumably to Australians. It doesn't really make sense to make a big deal out of an American cable deal that isn't going to get your show shown to the market you are teasing in front of.

Using that deduction -- unless Cody is talking out his ass -- an international streaming deal makes the most sense. Why would you promote something as "big" in Australia when you could just sidestep the question or suggest it's big for American audiences and hopefully Australia will be next? And it only really makes sense for that to be international.

slik 12-01-2018 12:45 PM
NXT Takeover Brooklyn has moved to Friday Night and the HOF has moved to Saturday Night.

NXT and the MSG show will no longer be in conflict w/ one another now.

erickman 12-01-2018 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5201492)
NXT Takeover Brooklyn has moved to Friday Night and the HOF has moved to Saturday Night.

NXT and the MSG show will no longer be in conflict w/ one another now.
good that will help both shows out, hurt the Friday indy shows though

SlickyTrickyDamon 12-01-2018 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5201492)
NXT Takeover Brooklyn has moved to Friday Night and the HOF has moved to Saturday Night.

NXT and the MSG show will no longer be in conflict w/ one another now.
Fuck.

This means I'll have to add another hotel day if I want to see NXT and Mania. Balls.

mike adamle 12-01-2018 01:07 PM
Awesome. Probably going to all three now. When do tickets go on sale for NXT?

Mr. Nerfect 12-01-2018 07:39 PM
Very interesting move for them though. Think it shows a little concern they're going to be upstaged?

Honestly, it wouldn't surprise me if in the future they do spread WrestleMania out to two nights and keep Takeover on the Friday and do the Hall of Fame on the Thursday. That way they can potentially block out Friday-Monday with wrestling shows.

Evil Vito 12-03-2018 09:15 AM
That news makes me want to jump for joy. I was always going to the MSG show but sad I'd miss Takeover. No longer.

slik 12-03-2018 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 5201602)
Very interesting move for them though. Think it shows a little concern they're going to be upstaged?

Honestly, it wouldn't surprise me if in the future they do spread WrestleMania out to two nights and keep Takeover on the Friday and do the Hall of Fame on the Thursday. That way they can potentially block out Friday-Monday with wrestling shows.
The only way they'd do Takeover on Friday after the FOX move is if it aired immediately after SDLive ends. The HOF might move to Thursday starting in 2020 for sure.

I have been thinking WM will get to the point it has to be two days long eventually. Sell double the tickets, make double the profits.

slik 12-05-2018 04:34 AM
Miami hosting the SuperBowl in 2020 knocks it out of contention for hosting WM36. Cities raise taxes to host big events like SB and WM to help pay for things and that, along with the reasoning that tourism departments would market the SB over WM until February, is why WM and the SB have never been held in the same city in the same calendar year.



Orlando, Tampa and Jacksonville looking more likely as the frontrunners to host WM36 in 2020.

Sepholio 12-05-2018 05:51 AM
Jacksonville would be the greatest thing ever.

slik 12-06-2018 09:58 AM
Notes from this week's Wrestling Observer


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Becky Lynch
The reason Lynch hasn’t worked house shows or done anything physical on television is that she also hasn’t been cleared as of press time. She was cleared from the concussion, but not from the nasal fracture.


TLC
The show isn’t sold out, but there are very few tickets left on the primary market and there are only 800 left on the secondary market -- but even so the demand isn’t that high as the price for entry is $51.


MMA
The 11/24 debut of Oscar De La Hoya’s Golden Boy MMA, built around the third Tito Ortiz vs. Chuck Liddell fight, is estimated at doing 40,000 PPV buys. Very underwhelming.


TV Ratings
Ratings were bad this week for both major WWE shows. RAW broke the all-time modern record for least-watched episode with a 1.61 rating and 2,286,000 viewers. There was a December 23, 1996 episode of RAW that did a 1.5 rating head-to-head with Nitro, which did a 3.1 rating head-to-head. Aside from that, this was the lowest rating for a WWE Monday night show, including Prime Time Wrestling, dating back to 1984. Baron Corbin's presence has seemed to repel viewership.

Bayley and Rousey should be big with teenage girls, but Bayley’s been botched at a level where she’s not going to have any significant appeal and when Rousey comes out, you don’t hear women cheering, you hear men. RAW did a 0.47 in 12-17 (down 14.5 percent from last week), 0.55 in 18-34 (down 8.3 percent), 1.07 in 35-49 (up 9.2 percent from last week) and 0.87 in 50+ (down 9.4 percent).

SMACKDOWN on 12/4 did 1,948,000 viewers. It was the lowest rating the show has ever done since moving to its live Tuesday night time slow with the exception of the 1,921,000 viewers on November 8, 2016, the night of the last presidential election. All demos were scary low by usual standards. SMACKDOWN did a 0.37 in 12-17 (down 21.3 percent from last week), 0.45 in 18-34 (down 21.1 percent), 0.87 in 35-49 (down 17.1 percent) and 0.78 in 50+ (down 10.3 percent).


Dragon Gate
Dragon Gate is the second most popular promotion at Korakuen Hall behind only New Japan. PAC winning the "Open the Dream Gate Title" was a standing room only crowd at the show. They overflowed Korakuen Hall with 1,858 people.


NJPW
FITE TV will be airing an Internet PPV of Wrestle Kingdom for $35. Not sure why you would order that when you could get the same show on New Japan World plus a month subscription for less than $9, but FITE is more convenient for some people to stream than New Japan World.


MLW
MLW announced the first of what they are hoping will be regular live shows on Bein Sports. They will be airing one hour live on 12.14.18.


WWE HOF
The reason behind NXT Takeover and the 2019 Hall Of Fame switching nights be might to accommodate The Rock. Dwayne Johnson is rumored to be the headliner for the HOF. If Johnson isn't it, then the reason for the move is to avoid NJPW/ROH at Madison Square Garden. Perhaps there is the feeling that, because of the respective building sizes and setups that more people would be at the MSG show and they didn’t want the news stories about how a rival promotion outdrew them. NXT will absolutely sell out once tickets are available for Takeover. This is a one-year thing and in 2020 things have to be changed since the Friday show will be a live Smackdown. So NXT or Hall of Fame would be Saturday and the other event would have to be on Thursday.


WWE interested in New Japan star
Kushida is a name that has been talked about for weeks by WWE management. He’s under contract to New Japan until the end of January.


WWE Queen of the Ring
An idea being talked about for 2019 would be a Queen of the Ring tournament with the main roster women. At this point it’s just an idea thrown around but they are looking for ideas for a second all women’s PPV show next year.


Why you will never see Men vs Women in WWE again
There was a promise to Mattel years ago when the deal was first made that they would never portray men physically overpowering women.


WWE Attendance
RAW doing 6,200 in Houston, one of the best wrestling markets in the country, is not good. SMACKDOWN only drew 3,800 fans in Austin the next night. The 12/5 WWE show in Santiago, Chile drew a nearly sold out crowd of 10,000 fans.


WrestleMania 35
WWE might be planning a Sasha/Bayley vs Trish/Lita bout for the show.

BigCrippyZ 12-06-2018 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5201903)
I have been thinking WM will get to the point it has to be two days long eventually. Sell double the tickets, make double the profits.
Jesus. I hope not. Talk about over saturation, or completing ignoring the concept of quality over quantity, which is already an issue.

In fairness, I barely watch as it is, due to the quality or lack thereof... generally catch WM, Rumble, Summerslam, the occasional Raw or SD segment, hour, or half hour... but come on. Two days of WM? Who's going to watch that? It's already too much as it is with the ridiculous "pre-show", etc.

XL 12-07-2018 04:02 AM
I don’t know, 2 three hour shows could be more palatable than 1 seven hour show.

slik 12-07-2018 09:25 AM
^ Yes

BigCrippyZ 12-07-2018 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by XL (Post 5203459)
I don’t know, 2 three hour shows could be more palatable than 1 seven hour show.
Sure, but I doubt that's what they'd end up doing. It'd just become two 4-5 hour shows.

Damian Rey 2.0 12-07-2018 02:44 PM
They don't need 2 days tho. Do they really have so much going on that they need to pack a huge 4 hr show? I think not.

Obvs the titles should be defended. So that's 8 matches right there. Maybe a couple grudge matches and you've got 10 matches. Do we really need more than that?

slik 12-07-2018 03:19 PM
8 matches is the perfect # to me for WM
But they like to do 13-16 when you throw the pre-shows in.

Mr. Nerfect 12-07-2018 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5201903)
The only way they'd do Takeover on Friday after the FOX move is if it aired immediately after SDLive ends. The HOF might move to Thursday starting in 2020 for sure.

I have been thinking WM will get to the point it has to be two days long eventually. Sell double the tickets, make double the profits.
I completely forgot they were going to Fridays when I typed that, lol.

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Originally Posted by Damian Rey 2.0 (Post 5203537)
They don't need 2 days tho. Do they really have so much going on that they need to pack a huge 4 hr show? I think not.

Obvs the titles should be defended. So that's 8 matches right there. Maybe a couple grudge matches and you've got 10 matches. Do we really need more than that?
No, but they don't need that many titles either. Not every match should be a title match, and those matches should be spaced out. Ideally, WWE would be one unified roster with a select few titles and well-built matches. 8 or 9 seems perfect, but we don't live in that world.

slik 12-07-2018 05:30 PM
I would say WMXXX and WM31 were the best WMs of the modern era and each had 7/8 matches. Starting w/ WM32 Vince decided he wanted WM to feature as much of the roster as possible. On on hand, that is great for the talent because more people get a WM payday.

On the other, it can be tough for fans watching at home and even more in person. I've attended two WMs (32 & 34) and standing outside for two hours to go in and sit for seven hours of wrestling, you get kind of 'wrestled out' on and off after about the third hour.

Mr. Nerfect 12-07-2018 05:33 PM
Why can't they just give everyone on the roster who helps scaffold their product over the course of the year a payday come WrestleMania time and not jam them onto a card for the sake of it? Performing at Mania should be special. I don't need to see Zack Ryder on eight consecutive cards in Battle Royals just because.

XL 12-07-2018 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by BigCrippyZ (Post 5203535)
Sure, but I doubt that's what they'd end up doing. It'd just become two 4-5 hour shows.
I’m sure they would.

XL 12-07-2018 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Damian Rey 2.0 (Post 5203537)
They don't need 2 days tho. Do they really have so much going on that they need to pack a huge 4 hr show? I think not.

Obvs the titles should be defended. So that's 8 matches right there. Maybe a couple grudge matches and you've got 10 matches. Do we really need more than that?
You forgot the Cruiserweight Championship, and by Mania the Women’s Tag Team Championship too.

Plus you need to get HHH/Taker/Cena into high profile matches, away from the belts.

Mr. Nerfect 12-07-2018 06:42 PM
Why couldn't they just pay Vickie Guerrero and why did they have to have her come out and humiliate herself all the time?

slik 12-11-2018 01:59 AM
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No Holds Barred Podcast


Note: They are not always 'on the money' (but sometimes they are).
Currently penciled in for WrestleMania 35 (supposedly):


* HHH vs. Batista (if HHH is healed)

* AJ Styles vs. Randy Orton

* Daniel Bryan vs. HBK

* Shane McMahon vs. The Miz

* Rey Mysterio vs Nakamura OR Samoa Joe OR Almas

* The Rock to possibly headline HOF

* Brock Lesnar vs. Seth Rollins

* Becky Lynch vs. Ronda Rousey

* He doesn't mention plans for Cena, Drew, Braun - but obviously all will be a big part of WM. I heard a rumor elsewhere Cena vs LARS might happen and Braun vs Drew might happen and that Dean could be added to Seth vs Brock.



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Damian Rey 2.0 12-11-2018 02:03 AM
Bryan/HBK, Lesnar/Rollins and Becky/Rhonda are the only 3 there that'd I wanna see. Shane/Miz sounds like it'd free a fucking train wreck.

Mr. Nerfect 12-11-2018 02:54 AM
I was just sitting around thinking about how I would like Mania to go. I'm on a Bryan vs. Cesaro kick at the moment. This new Bryan character is ripe for making someone -- especially someone with a surplus of ring talent. Bryan being put-off by Cesaro's ring work could make for a great story. Bryan is the guy to get people invested in Cesaro if anyone can.

Benefits to this:

* Good morale boost for those who aren't happy in WWE. Cesaro seems like a guy who would be respected. Also, if he doesn't get an opportunity, I can eventually see him leaving when his contract expires, and you don't want the perception of talented people leaving WWE for places they can wrestle.

* It would be a kick-ass match.

* Could steal the weekend at a time when New Japan and ROH will be making their biggest play for notoriety.

* Cesaro seems to fit the "sports presentation" element FOX apparently want, as dubious as I am of that.

Run AJ vs. Shawn, Cena vs. Braun, Brock vs. Seth vs. Ambrose (if you really need to have Ambrose in there), Ronda vs. Charlotte and Becky vs. Asuka. That's basically your card set. I'd go with Cesaro winning the Rumble in a bit of a shocker with Rollins being eliminated illegally by Ambrose to keep those wheels spinning. Seth can get to Brock through other means.

slik 12-11-2018 11:05 AM
I don't put much stock in those rumors of Rock/Brock.

The Rock is one of the busiest men in entertainment and I can't picture him having enough time to train for a match between his film/producing commitments. In addition to that, I'm not sure any of his projects would allow him to do so b/c it could be a liability to them, I believe that has stopped him from wrestling a couple times before (remember - Rock got injured during WM29 pretty badly in his ribcage).

slik 12-11-2018 11:06 AM
On RAW I think they subtly hinted at Seth/Brock, when Seth kept mentioning having a problem repeatedly during his promo to Corbin.

Mr. Nerfect 12-11-2018 07:22 PM
I can't wait for the Seth promos about how Brock isn't there.

slik 12-13-2018 10:08 AM
Notes from today's Wrestling Observer


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MMA
A third major player has now entered the U.S. television scene when it comes to MMA, as ONE has signed a three-year deal to air 24 live events per year on TNT starting next year.


ROH/ALL ELITE WRESTLING
In what appears to be the end of an era, The Young Bucks & Cody, most likely Adam Page, and perhaps Christopher Daniels and Frankie Kazarian and others finish up this weekend with ROH with Final Battle on 12/14 at the Hammerstein Ballroom in New York and a television taping on 12/15 in Philadelphia at the 2300 Arena.

Cody adamantly stated that he wasn’t going to WWE, and although WWE made offers to The Young Bucks, Cody and Page, at this point it looks like all are committed to the new AEW promotion that Tony Khan is looking at starting.


NJPW
The key performer to New Japan is Omega, who is the top foreigner. It’s pretty clear watching the last few months that the company has done a big push to get Jay White ready for the top foreigner spot in case Omega leaves. Omega’s next direction is unclear, to the point he’s avoided doing media to build up the Tokyo Dome match with Hiroshi Tanahashi thus far because he knows about the inevitable questions about New Japan, WWE and AEW and he’s not in any position to say anything right now.

Obviously both AEW and ROH will want a business relationship with New Japan.


AXS TV
AXS TV is doing a 10-hour marathon of Kenny Omega matches called the Omega-thon on 12/28 running 2 p.m. to midnight Eastern time.


Women Of Wrestling
The Women of Wrestling promotion (WOW) on AXS TV will be starting with weekly shows on 1/18 in a Friday night at 9 p.m. time slot. This will WOW a lead-in with New Japan, which would be the best lead-in possible. A key element is that the top star in the promotion is clearly going to be Tessa Blanchard, and she’ll be on a show that, unless things change, is likely to draw bigger numbers than Impact.


NJPW's Annual Dome Show
Dave feels there could be four to six match of the year contenders by the end of the first week of January coming out of this show.


205 Live on the verge of Cancellation
The current plan for 205 Live is to remain airing on Wednesday rather than live on Tuesday when there is no more Mixed Match Challenge. After that a decision will be made for 2019. While the viewership for the show at first increased with the move to Wednesday, it has dropped greatly in recent weeks to the point it’s very low now.


TV Attendance
Attendance for RAW in San Diego was 4,000. Attendance for SmackdownLive in Las Vegas was 6,000.

slik 12-13-2018 03:48 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Back to news: I’m hearing Braun Strowman is still not likely to compete Sunday at TLC. So much so, that on the holiday tours, John Cena will wrestle in his place. Strowman will still appear at the holiday tour shows, just won’t work. So I can’t see him working a TLC match.</p>&mdash; WrestleVotes (@WrestleVotes) <a href="https://twitter.com/WrestleVotes/status/1073315101481058304?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 13, 2018</a></blockquote>
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SlickyTrickyDamon 12-13-2018 04:08 PM
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Evil Vito 12-14-2018 09:33 PM
The Mighty Don't Team: Nick Miller released

Sounds like he asked for it because he wanted to return home

SlickyTrickyDamon 12-14-2018 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Conspiracy Victim Vito (Post 5205657)
The Mighty Don't Team: Nick Miller released

Sounds like he asked for it because he wanted to return home
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DaveWadding 12-14-2018 11:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Conspiracy Victim Vito (Post 5205657)
The Mighty Don't Team: Nick Miller released

Sounds like he asked for it because he wanted to return home
They've been glorified jobbers since they came back after the injury anyways.

SlickyTrickyDamon 12-14-2018 11:52 PM
Mr. Meekmahn will be on the post-TLC Raw this Monday Night!

Evil Vito 12-15-2018 11:55 AM
Apparently Miller's got a newborn baby so that's the reason he wanted to go home. Makes sense, and presumably the door is open for him to return.

Shane Thorne might actually have potential as a singles guy. He's got a good look.

XL 12-15-2018 12:02 PM
Which one is which?

mike adamle 12-15-2018 12:52 PM
Nick Miller is the one that just got fired, Shane Thorne is still there.

Droford 12-15-2018 01:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Conspiracy Victim Vito (Post 5205657)
The Mighty Don't Team: Nick Miller released

Sounds like he asked for it because he wanted to return home
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Mr. Nerfect 12-15-2018 11:34 PM
I was very underwhelmed by TMDK in WWE after hearing amazing things about them in NOAH. Oh well.

Why would WWE promote Braun for TLC if he isn't going to make it back?

DAMN iNATOR 12-16-2018 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by SlickyTrickyDamon (Post 5205689)
Mr. Meekmahn will be on the post-TLC Raw this Monday Night!
He supposedly wants to "shake things up" again, with the rumor being he will announce some kind of plan to improve the product, whether that be a shift away from the TV-PG style of shows or making promos less and/or not at all scripted and more spontaneous or returning to a different formula that worked well for the company in the past.

This seems likely (IMHO) to be a move to attempt to show Nona fide improvements in the weekly product to try to convince USA execs that RAW will be worth renewing their TV contract beyond 2024 and also to show FOX that SDL will be a more sports-themed, less entertainment aspect of a show and assure their execs and investors that they won't be throwing away a billion dollars.

That's all just speculation on a couple of things I've seen lately. I have no inside information, I'm just making my best educated guess.

Mr. Nerfect 12-16-2018 04:24 PM
Haha, they're not going to move away from PG or let talent do their own promos. It will be something on-air to try and fleece viewers. Hulk Hogan as GM or something. Baron Corbin fired and put into a Handicap Match against some babyfaces that beat the crap out of him. They're not going to divorce themselves from their philosophies.

slik 12-20-2018 10:02 AM
From today's Wrestling Observer

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State of WWE - The big problem is when the stars are the authority figures, it means the wrestlers aren’t. When you do tours you have no stars. It’s telling that aside from Lynch, the company’s biggest stars are the ones UFC created for them, and who are nowhere near the level of stars they were when they were in UFC.

The McMahons all over the shows is a short-term fix, something very similar to WCW always going back to the NWO because nothing new was clicking. Vince McMahon is one of the few guys who can move ratings for a return, but in time, the same way of doing things is always going to yield the same results. There are no signs of doing things differently. Both shows felt, looked and were paced the same. The reality is that every boom period has been based on doing something completely new and different with the television show, or lucking into or creating hot characters.


WWE & Saudi Arabia - While not announced and probably they won’t be for as long as possible to keep the heat away, they right now have May and November dates booked for Saudi Arabia.


Vince's original plan for WrestleMania 27 - Vince McMahon wanted to headline the 2011 WrestleMania in a match against Dana White (this was when White wouldn’t approve of having Brock Lesnar, under contract with UFC at the time, face Undertaker to headline WrestleMania 27). Vince would have been 65 at the time. Dana White declined the offer for a match and WWE went with The Rock guest-hosting instead, which lead to Rock vs Cena the next two years at WrestleMania 28 and 29.


Finn Balor - Balor, after being mired in the middle card, is about to get a significant push, at least for a little while.


Alexa Bliss as RAW GM - Alexa Bliss as an authority figure (internally planned for the Baron Corbin spot once Corbin lost to Braun Strowman) has been completely dropped. Her role as GM of the women that Corbin appointed her to has been dropped as well.


Shane winning Best In The World - The Shane angle based on his winning the Crown Jewel tournament that was to lead to a heel turn looks like it’s been completely dropped (although it wasn’t supposed to happen until January anyway). Whatever reason Smackdown got shut out at Survivor Series looks like it’s been dropped.


AEW - The official departure of the Young Bucks, Cody and Adam Page from ROH, combined with them turning down WWE’s offer in a skit on their BTE show that mirrored real life, has made things clear that they see All Elite Wrestling as more than just an idea. Three of the four turned down WWE main event money, multi-year deals for more than seven figures annually.

The fact that terms related to All In and Elite, owned by the Bucks and Cody, are part of the trademark filing and the identity of Tony Khan, who owns a sports analytics company and is part of management with Fulham FC in the U.K. and the Jacksonville Jaguars of the NFL, gives some hints. If they don’t get a significant television deal, both in terms of exposure, and enough revenue to where they can run a business without going deep in the red, then the reality is that they won’t make it.


Pro Wrestling NOAH - NOAH pulled the trigger on the year-long build of 22-year-old Kaito Kiyomiya to be the next big superstar of the company.


NJPW - No numbers have been released but two New Japan sources (as well as their Twitter) have said that ticket sales for the Tokyo Dome are still ahead of the pace of last year’s show.


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