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Destor 07-19-2018 10:40 AM

stole a 3% axe on the first try last night. level 20 and H'aanit has over 400 in axe damage. Golden axe +100 crit too

Ruien 07-19-2018 05:22 PM

Wanted to level Primrose so I went to a side dungeon. No boss. Cant find the side quest anywhere for the Flatlands one. Little annoyed.

Ruien 07-19-2018 09:21 PM

Finished chapter 2 of Olberic's story. Almost perfect storytelling.

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Did not enjoy how nice the Black Knight was after beating him.

Destor 07-19-2018 10:21 PM

Guys...something occurs to me...

Olberic
Cyrus
Therion
Ophillia
Primrose
Alftn
Tressa
H'aanit


WHATS THAT SPELL

Ultra Mantis 07-20-2018 08:42 AM

Holy shit, either give Merchant to Cyrus or Scholar to Tressa and unlock the last Merchant passive ASAP. Big deal. Mechant's ULT also sounds amazing.

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Passive gives you Half SP cost, ULT gives you money equal to damage for the attack. Combined that gives you a 15 SP money maker skill.

Ruien 07-20-2018 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destor (Post 5148946)
Guys...something occurs to me...

Olberic
Cyrus
Therion
Ophillia
Primrose
Alftn
Tressa
H'aanit


WHATS THAT SPELL

Ha, that's neat.

Ruien 07-20-2018 10:45 AM

Joined a Facebook group for this and people are talking about beating the game and such already. Wtf.

Ruien 07-20-2018 10:48 AM

Found a side dungeon on the way to chapter 2 in the snow area. Got super wrecked lol. Granted it said level 35 and my highest character is 36.

Going to do Tressa's chapter 2 today I think. Since she was the second person I picked up will just try to do then in order I guess.

Ultra Mantis 07-20-2018 02:40 PM

Took a little time out to collect all the sub jobs, and then

Primrose Ch2

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Another strong entry, if lacking in length. Totally expected Arianna to die, or at least actually get dragged off as the Archbishop's new plaything, but this time the tale had a, uh, happy(?) ending. The party banter really made this chapter extra good though, Tressa not knowing what a Brothel is, Alfyn becoming totally distracted by thoughts of whores, Cyrus expressing his dream of being a great dancer :lol:



I'm not 100% happy with my subjob arrangements so I'm hesitant to invest in a lot of them, probably will just go for the first two cheap skills and save up for ULTs until I feel more confident in my choices.

Ruien 07-20-2018 07:09 PM

Did Therions second chapter. Arg at his story.

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At the end, the lady offers to take off his band and he tells her it is a dumb thing to do. Go. Your supposed to be a nasty thief arg.

Ultra Mantis 07-20-2018 08:06 PM

Therion is a poser.

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I bet he likes wearing that band because it gives him something to brood about.


Alfyn Ch2

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Alfyn is a badass, I'm not sure where his plot is leading or what his end game is but this episode was awesome, and unlike a certain episode 2 didn't feel like filler. This really did fleshed out his character and showed exactly who this guy is. He's the nicest executioner ever. Therion's party banter was odd, he actually seemed like he cared for a second there.

Ultra Mantis 07-20-2018 08:24 PM

So I've been tinkering and I think I've got my first round of sub-jobs locked in. Spoiler tagging in case you don't want your decisions to be even slightly influenced.

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Ophilia - Theif - Ophilia REALLY makes this job shine, Wildfire actually DOES damage and since she's my main she also hits a lot harder than Therion on physical too, which means better HP/SP steal.
Cyrus - Merchant - That sweet last merchant passive is going to really give him a boost
Tressa - Hunter - There are probably better jobs, she looks cool in most outfits but this one was left over and has a funny hat. Pretty much just gives her bow skills and Lightning / Axe coverage.
Olberic - Cleric - I'm sure there is a better class for him but Holy Paladin Olberic was too much to refuse.
Primrose - Scholar - Prim has higher utility than Cyrus thanks to Summon and her Dancer buffs / passives so she became my primary Scholar as soon as I got this unlocked.
Alfyn - Warrior - He hits SO hard now. He's an AMPUTATION machine, and swords and spears help his break coverage even further.
Therion - Apothecary - This job actually makes Therion do decent damage, he's not a DPS machine like Alfyn, Cyrus or Primrose but he's considerably less awful than he was solo Thief. Plus he has AMPUTATION now, which I always appreciate.
H'aanit - Dancer - She didn't really need much help in weapon type coverage so the buffs and Dark damage, which I haven't found anything for with Capture, are nice to have.

Ruien 07-20-2018 08:29 PM

I so went the paladino's route too. Loved Cecil in FF4 so I went off that lol. I only have a few sub classes so far though.

Destor 07-20-2018 08:58 PM

0 sub classes...5 travelers...

Ultra Mantis 07-21-2018 08:48 AM

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/...keYourTime.gif

Destor 07-21-2018 01:38 PM

About to get the final traveler. (Merchant)

Destor 07-21-2018 06:08 PM

I love Tressa

Destor 07-21-2018 06:54 PM

Shocked that only Therion can open purples...

Ultra Mantis 07-21-2018 08:16 PM

I think they gave him that unique skill because otherwise you would never have him in your party once you unlock his sub-job.

Destor 07-21-2018 08:18 PM

Well id rather steal than barter but you arent wrong. He paired great with Cyrus up until i found sp regen gear and then it was just redundant.

Ultra Mantis 07-21-2018 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruien (Post 5148937)
Finished chapter 2 of Olberic's story. Almost perfect storytelling.

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Did not enjoy how nice the Black Knight was after beating him.

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Everyone in that tournament was so nice :lol:, the whole "no killing" rule has made our gladiators soft.

Ultra Mantis 07-21-2018 08:23 PM

From what I've seen so far swapping out everyone pretty regularly, Therion is the only character who gets totally outclassed at his own class. I guess if you enjoy the stealing in towns, yeah you would keep him in party there too, but combat ability leaves a lot to be desired.

Destor 07-21-2018 08:53 PM

Sub classing him as merchant would make him the better tessa with the ability to unlock purple and steals> barter

Ultra Mantis 07-21-2018 09:10 PM

There's at least three characters who would really REALLY like that 4th Merchant passive though, and Therion is definitely not one of them.

Ruien 07-21-2018 09:38 PM

I use Tessa the least.

Therion is still in my main party but probably going to put thief on Haant and replace him.

Finished 5 of the chapter 2s now. Going to finish at least one more tonight. Probably Haants.

Ultra Mantis 07-21-2018 10:44 PM

Tressa is definitely down there with Therion, she's decent as a secondary scholar, especially if you invest in her Merchant skills, but I feel like Prim's Dancer skills synergise more.

Ultra Mantis 07-21-2018 10:53 PM

Finished all Ch2s. My ranking:

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Primrose
H'aanit
Alfyn
Tressa
Cyrus
Olberic
Therion
Ophilia

Phatcoto Traveler.

They were all really great, except for the ending of Therion's and Ophilia's entire arc stalling out. H'aanit's turned amazing at a certain provoke, but Prim's just edges it I think. The middle four were all solid, Cyrus and Olberic felt a little short. Hope Ophilia gets her shit together in Ch3.

Ruien 07-22-2018 01:03 AM

I cant figure out who to use as my 4th. I think I am using Haanit wrong or something.

Destor 07-22-2018 02:55 AM

I dunno...maybe?

She hits like a truck if you gear her for crits.

She gets extra turns and extra attacks.

She has 3 attack types before you count beasts.

Her base beast has two types taking her to 5 before youve caught your first beast.

Add some nasty bow based AoEs and she's a power house.

Gear her for crits and maybe SP regen if you like the AoEs.

And obviously make sure her gear is good.

Ultra Mantis 07-22-2018 08:08 AM

H'aanit is all about weapons coverage, use the weaker beasts to break guard on anything you don't have a standard attack for. She gets extra follow up attacks on basics pretty frequently. Most important stats for her are crits and accuracy, she has an accuracy buff though which you should definitely apply if you're using the AOE.

Once you break guard fully boost your strongest monster for a good nuke, save the big guns for bosses. Doing this, you don't need to worry about getting weakness bonus because hitting critical should offset the difference.

You just need to keep your roster stocked and you can usually just use whatever is best in the area, elemental damage is rare and not something H'aanit really needs to be dabbling in. You always have Thunderbird if you need it. King-type monsters are all great, prioritise multi-hitters and keep a healer for provoking.

I decided to switch her to Apothercary because why make Therion decent when I can give that extra damage to H'aanit instead. Therion is now a dancing girl.

Ultra Mantis 07-22-2018 11:35 AM

Decided to clear out some of the caves and side quests before going on to Chapter 3, was doing great stomping everything... and then I went in Undertow Cave near Rippletown. I am terrified.

Destor 07-22-2018 11:59 AM

Lvl45 cave?

Ultra Mantis 07-22-2018 01:31 PM

Yeah, thought I could run in, get that purple chest and then fast travel out, a couple of eldrich horrors had other plans.

Destor 07-22-2018 04:07 PM

You are very bold.

Also : Primrose as Scholar is exceptional.

Ultra Mantis 07-22-2018 07:39 PM

Haha, I lasted two turns. The second turn was a failed attempt at fleeing. Prim is amazing, almost completely self sustaining. Might quickly teach her all the Merchant passives when she has enough job points but I don't know if she even needs it.

Started Chapter 3, Alfyn first

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Whoa, what a ride. Alfyn is such a good boy. Also a swift executioner. Rest in pieces, Miguel, you son of a bitch. Had so much trouble with this boss, I was running Hunter Therion instead of H'aanit because I wanted to see his party banter (guess I missed it, must have been the first cutscene) and I REALLY could have used her in this fight, dude hits like a truck. I used an Olive (L) on Ophilia and she revived with 9999 health thanks to her passive, that was the only thing that kept me in the fight.

Really enjoying Alfyn's mid chapters, no idea what his last one will bring, unlike the other's he has no clear end game. Hopefully it carries on the trend, real strong episode from the AMPUTATION man.

Destor 07-22-2018 07:59 PM

Prim with half sp, dancer sp regen set to scolar would gain over double the cost of base casting...helluva build.

Mix matching passives has a lot of potential

As far as secondaries i have 3 so far

Tressa as Cleric. Having Tressa in my party is a must. In rpgs i want all the money and tressa is key. Having a healer is also key. Half sp lets her cast the greater heal and she can rest that sp cost back just as easy.

Prim as scholar. Cause its broke af.

Therion as Hunter. I like his sp steal coupled with rain arrows. On top of that its 4 weapons plus two elements and then summons. It work for when im purple hunting.

As for the ones i dont have:

Apothacary- thinking Ophilia. Youd get some decent combat options for her plus youd have cheap single taget heals when you dont need to heal all.

Worrior- Leaning toward H'aanit. Make her beefy and give her all the attack types you could need.

Merchant- cyrus. Half SP. Damage for gill. Would be broken.

Thief/Dancer- Weaker classes on their own. Could go either way.

Ultra Mantis 07-22-2018 10:14 PM

Cleric Tressa sounds like a good idea, I'm using her as a dancer now and she's good in that role too. Ophilia is locked in my party though so I've not really looked into alternative healers.

I've been running Hunter Therion on my purple chest grabs, mainly for the AOE arrows to do fast breaks. Probably the best use for him.

Warrior H'aanit sounds decent, prefer Apothecary to give her a heavy hitting axe nuke but that strength boost passive should be great.

Not sure how good Theif or Dancer would work on either Alfyn or Olberic, they're both heavy hitters and neither job really plays to their strengths. Alfyn already does everything Theif does except steal items and Olberic has half the Dancer buffs in his Warrior set. Olberic's Dancer sprite might be worth it.

Destor 07-22-2018 10:22 PM

Speaking of sprites Tressa hunter is adorable

Ultra Mantis 07-22-2018 10:26 PM

When I first dished out jobs I wanted her to have that one based purely on the sprite. Also a fan of her classic white mage outfit for Cleric and
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Link cosplay
for Apothecary,

Destor 07-23-2018 12:02 AM

I may have already said this but with KH3 being pushed back to 2019 this was easily my most anticipated game of 2018 and yet somehow its exceeded my VERY high expectations


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