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Well, it's official, folks. I guess I should share this:

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There's going to be a press conference on January 8th or something. "Double or Nothing" is a show that is going to happen. Shahid Khan is said to be backing, there are said to be numerous television offers and Cody is said to be under contract. It looks like The Young Bucks, Hangman Page, Christopher Daniels, Frankie Kazarian and Scorpio Sky are going to be a part of the promotion.

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I actually like their graphics so far.

Same!

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I'm very optimistic about this. It will be interesting to see how Vince responds, if at all.

HAPPY NEW YEAR!

I'll wait for more concrete information, but I'm liking this so far.

Fuck ya that was a good video.

Vince prob wont directly respond but will instead go on a talent raid and try to scoop up as many people that aew is interested in as possible. The thing is this could end up like the Monday night wars in that vinces competition will have deeper pockets than he does.

I thought about this strange coincidence here too. Isnt it funny that at the same time Vince makes another foray into the football world (where Khan is from) and now Khan finally pulls the trigger and jumps into Vinces world. This could be a legit irl feud brewing. Will be fun to watch.

AEW should raid WWE and make use of some of the folks being squandered by WWE. Woukd love to see guys like Dolph and Shinsuke get stolen away under Vinces nose.

Get Fandango and make him the face of the company he deserves to be. Wrestling saved.

Lol im not as high on Fandango as you guys are but he is definitely a million times better than WWE treats him. He woukd be better off elsewhere.

Talent like Gallows & Anderson, maybe Nakamura, some of the recent NXT callups who never went anywhere yet should perhaps take a good long look at this announcement and consider if they're really happy with what they're doing in WWE right now.

Or maybe rethink that future contact extension or go about asking for your release.

I really hope this makes it, for Noid’s sanity at least.

I have no strong feelings on this one way or the other.

Wrestling needs this and WWE needs it. Vince and Co do great things whe they are competing (Wrestlemania/Attitude era) and stagnate under micro management and no pressure when they aren’t (New generation and current day)

I am interested because if this guy is serious, this might just wake up the WWE.

There is definitely an audience for an exciting wrestling show. Only 2 million viewers watching RAW. Refuse to believe that everyone who doesn’t watch, isn’t interested or is just a sign of the times.

Their numbers are declining quicker than other TV shows because their product isn’t good enough. This could be what everyone needs

I do have to wonder what talent would ask for, and be given their release.

I can't imagine top guys asking to leave WWE, and I can't see Vince giving any younger guys a release either.

That said, guys with Indy backgrounds who have been wasted and are older would be in a Prime spot.

Somebody like Tye Dillenger jumps right out to me as someone who might be granted a release and would be given a good spot in AEW.

If they bring in the likes of Tye Dillinger and put them in good spots then AEW becomes the new TNA

I wouldn't put someone like Dillinger in a good spot off the bat, which is a TNA move. He has to show he deserves it. If it were a CM Punk or a Bryan Danielson, then yes. By all means put them in a good spot.

Lower midcard guy, put him in the same spot, but give them enough time to develop their own drive. Or put them slightly higher if they come in with a new gimmick and show they deserve more.

I mentioned this in a Facebook Group, but if AEW is to be successful, I feel like they need their top talents to have their own Youtube Channels, like "Being the Elite" or "Ten Pounds of Gold." Then you have a Channel like "AEW Event Center" that shows highlights of the various smaller channels. And you do the small shows on Twitch and have the bigger shows on whatever iPPV thing is to maximize profits.

The Gambling Era has begun or did at ALL IN, brother

Brother, that's one of the plans already. This move will also bring some duds from there, too, let's not pretend all fresh starts are guaranteed STARS, dude.

Jericho and JR are big signings if they can get them. A reason they are so big is because they are two guys who would potentially have life-time relationships with Vince basically saying we're in a post-needing Vince world. It would seem a foregone conclusion that AJ Styles and Shinsuke Nakamura would re-up with WWE, but given that they are 42 and 39 this year, signing a multi-year deal with AEW could carry them through until retirement. They would hurt Vince's feelings, which I don't think either of them would go out of their way to do, but if you wanted to have artistic freedom, work less dates (most likely), have benefits, have a major ripple effect on the business, etc. -- signing with AEW would be that thing. Especially if there are opportunities to work with New Japan.

I'm not saying that I think it's probable or even likely that either Styles or Nakamura signs with AEW. But there are reasons that shift is conceivable. If I were a worker and Tony Khan could guarantee me half-a-million regardless of whether it takes off, I'd certainly consider the offer as I approach 40 or am past it.

Lol chill guys, by good spot I mean as a featured midcarder, as opposed to being on TV once every 6 weeks as R-Truth's backstage friend.

All Elite's main eventers are going to be the guys that got a billionaire to fund a new wrestling promotion, and rightfully so.

Tye Dillinger is a perfect guy to get a spot, and see what he can make of it, something WWE has not done or given him a chance to do.

WWE have been in talent acquisition mode for a while, but honestly if I'm talent I'm holding off right now.

Trying to think as strategically as possible, and assuming Vince really does want to do his best to sabotage AEW, for whatever petty reason (or maybe he just wants to make the work for it), two outside-the-expected possibilities I'll throw out there:

1. WWE strikes an agreement with New Japan.

-This seems so out of character for Vince this millennium, but WWE has worked with New Japan before. They've got those odd agreements with UK promotions and EVOLVE. I'm sure everyone involved in AEW is prepared for an environment where they aren't going to get New Japan's assistance, but it doesn't really make sense for NJPW to not work with AEW. That is unless, of course, something bigger comes along. If Vince really wanted to make sure the biggest story was something other than AEW, him showing up with Daniel Bryan to New Year's Dash would grab those headlines.

-This would also cut out a lot of the perceived leverage AEW has to sign guys like AJ Styles, Shinsuke Nakamura, Kenny Omega and even Chris Jericho. If you want to work for #2, then you have to work for #1 and can't work for #3.

2. Vince McMahon announces that WWE programming is still going to air Tuesday even after SmackDown moves.

-This seems much more WWE. Oversaturate the market. Hell, I could see this actually backfiring on them, because the last thing we need is more WWE content, but I've thought this is at least a possibility even prior to AEW. But there's no doubt that a WWE produced show is probably going to kick AEW's ass in the ratings, should they go head-to-head. Announcing that he's not going to leave Tuesdays might be a way to scare off television networks that are considering giving AEW a sizable deal.

-WWE has to restructure a lot when they move to Fridays. WWE crew have been working Monday and Tuesday for years and years. With the current system in place, WWE could keep things going as they normally do, try and sell a two-hour Tuesday block and make even more of a profit, and use a different team on Fridays for SmackDown, maybe even giving it a different production feel. I imagine they'd probably run house shows on Tuesdays after the move anyway, and they aren't doing too well business-wise, so why not just make a TV show and try and make money out of it?

The only one who could jump ship from WWE right now that would make me watch is Becky Lynch.

I'd definitely watch if they got AJ or Nakamura. I'll be doing my best to watch anyway to give them a chance.

In a weird sort of way, they've caught WWE in an odd position. I don't want to say "vulnerable," but their creative content has never been more bland. I mean, that dissatisfaction is what helped make All In a success. But on top of that you have Vince pulling out millions to start another football league. You have them going for Friday nights. You have them spread out with all these content commitments and when they are yet to find that next star that can take over from Cena and Reigns. And you've got them at a time where they've managed to make wrestling TV valuable, which might be a double-edged sword to them in the end if they end up pricing themselves out of certain agreements.

I stress that I am not saying this is a Vincekiller or anything like that. Lol, no. It's just that WWE have created the perfect environment for their to be more affordable, potentially better quality substitutes to their programming.

How bizarre is it that we live in a world where AJ Styles could potentially jump to AEW this month -- there's nothing stopping him -- and then WWE have a competitor's top star front and center on their latest video game cover. God, the perception of that would just be amazing.

I'm curious as to who they get to be agents for it. My pipe-dream is Bret Hart, but I'd like to see them make a go for Christian too. He seems less interested in maintaining a relationship with WWE than Edge does. Would love for JR and Christian to be the commentary team too. I think they will get Callis to do it though, which will suck.

ProWrestlingSheet reporting Cody is EVP of the company and The Young Bucks are the bookers, with Tony Khan as Company President and other members of the Elite expected to work as agents for matches.

Good for Cody. Not sure how The Young Bucks will go as bookers or how they will go as agents, but more power to them.

Apparently the owner of AEW is a long-time subscriber to the Observer Newsletter which could have been a reason why Meltzer became more confident as time went on about this new promotion being legit and not just some crazy rumored idea.

If he got any inside info from the owner, made it a lot easier to piece together whatever the Bucks were feeding him since its well known they are one of his biggest sources in the indies.

AJ Styles isn't going anywhere. He has been giving the keys to the castle so to speak. The guy isn't just around the main event, he is the #1 guy in the company with Roman gone.

They treat him like the talent he is, and I doubt he ever works anywhere else again.

Shinsuke could certainly go, but everything that I've read suggest he wants to do more in WWE for his legacy.

I think of the bigger names, it would be Gallows and Anderson, and maybe Sami.

Finn doesn't really have the relationship with the other Indy guys, as he hasn't really been an Indy guy working the circuit since before he was a mainstay in Japan. Plus with his sudden renewed push, walking away would be foolish.

Ziggler isn't leaving as long as WWE continues to allow him his outside projects and comedy shows. He also would not get a better spot in AEW, he just feels like he would be out of place anywhere outside of WWE.

I could see Ryback end up there. He seems to have a good relationship with Cody, and he only seems to take bookings for big money. I could easily see them bringing him in and seeing if they can beat him up again.

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There was always smoke to the fire. It was such an odd rumor to just make up re: the Khans.

I'd have agreed with you about AJ Styles until recently. I dunno, something in the zeitgeist has changed. Everything you've said about him is true. If he left now, Vince would probably never forgive him. But artists are artists sometimes, and he's 41 and thinking about retirement. If the Khans can come up with a very real money offer, it's not like he needs to work for WWE.

Nakamura is a similar boat. They've looked after him and I bet he's got a close working relationship with Vince. That being said, if he decided he wanted to stay in the US but didn't like WWE travel or his output there, he might choose to go elsewhere for more freedom, a reduced schedule, better health benefits, etc. I do think both he and Styles will re-sign with WWE for at least another cycle, but it is within the realm of possibility that Nakamura looks at his new WWE offer for two years or whatever, and realizes that he is exhausted and bummed out only 20 months into his main roster tenure, so he wouldn't even be half-way.

Gallows & Anderson leaving when their contracts are up would not be shocking in the least. But they might just take WWE for more money to sit around grinning at botch videos.

Finn and AJ have worked together. It's hard to really read these guys because the landscape and how they plug in is completely different. Balor is not young. If the Khans offered him a good chunk of money for two years work, maybe he would not be opposed?

Ziggler's a guy that I think lots of people think about leaving, but I'm fairly certain he just signed a new WWE contract. Sami really sounds like he wants to leave, but I can't see them willingly releasing him at this point.

Ryan Reeves is probably someone they've considered using, but I wonder if he really fits the aesthetic and the style of the promotion.

Oh I think AJ gets a reduced schedule when he reups, probably Orton's schedule in terms of dates per year, but even less house shows so he isn't off TV at all.

AJ leaving would be the only one that shocked me. I would be surprised if Finn left, but not shocked.

Shinsuke I only feel like he is staying based on things he said, otherwise he would be a front-runner for AEW to go after.

I could honestly see Ryback in a bodyguard/enforcer role with AEW. Play to his skill set and let the guys who can go have the good technical matches.

I also think it helps Ryback that he never showed up in Impact, so he still has that aura of "oh wow they got him to come back, AEW is different".

I just hope they don't bring in a bunch of guys that haven't done anything in 5 years just because, like when TNA had the Nasty Boys come in like they were as good as the Dudleys lol

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AJ seems like a really loyal kind of guy. To a fault even. 0% chance he goes, imo.

wish they would get someone like dutch to help them out

why would aj want to leave he is happy where he is at an getting pushed. now the tag teams a lot of them should leave when contracts are up.

I hope they get a good tv deal. I don't expect them to be WCW overnight but long-term I'd love to have two major feds again.

It will be interesting to see if AEW can draw not just hardcore fans but create new fans as well. New fans will be key to continued success for WWE and AEW in the future. I bet Khan will invest some serious $$$ into production values.

Someone on twitter pointed out anything could happen really, using the example that in 1982 if you told wrestling fans that only six years later the territories would be dead and there'd be one really popular wrestling organization instead no one would have believed it.

(sorry 4 triple post)

Per Rajah.com and Twitter user Rovert

Not keen on JR being involved on camera, but otherwise, everything I've read is exciting.

that would be funny if tbs got wrestling again, aol dumbasses selling wcw for so cheap, I hope they also make a 6:05 Saturday wrestling show to go with there Tuesday show.

Agree, Cody already has a channel and SCU could easily spinoff from BTE. I just hope thier TV show is as good as BTE.

Even though Ted Turner has no real interest in wrestling anymore, AEW landing there likely will cause WWE to react the most considering those networks past history with wrestling and how big of a symbolic move that would be (TNT).

exciting news for sure. I just don't know it's ever going to be the Monday Night War thing you guys are hoping for. The WWE isn't setting the tv world on fire right now. I think wrestling in general has run it's course on tv and will just have a very niche audience going forward. Really just like everything else.

I just hope it doesn't get stuck on some random channel on a horrible night and time slot. But then again is the majority of house holds even watching TV as it airs anymore? seems like binge watching is the way everyone wants to do it now.

I do not necessarily want the Monday Night Wars aspect to return, at least initially. Down the line, maybe. But I just want AEW to get under Vince's skin by a little. The minute he sees that AEW is a threat will be the minute that the WWE product will begin to change for the better. It will more than likely become more edgier than what we have been used to lately. If Vince feels threatened in any capacity, he will do his best to kill AEW. Which if AEW takes off and he doesn't realize this for a year, he won't be able to kill it and then the rivalry can take off.

Turner networks eh?

That's a really good sign for TV. If they were going to look for something like AXS or beIN, that's some trouble.

Could see it being on WGN seeing as they did All In's pre show.

hope not wgn is harder to get

Britt Baker has signed. She’s done a match or two in WWE.

I did a huge specific type-up, but I lost it. Anyway, as it pertains to AJ Styles, they are obviously going to bend over backwards to try and keep him. We don’t know how happy he is or isn’t it how serious these AEW offers are going to be. With hundreds of millions being sunk in, we are in a post-needing Vince world. Not a post-Vince world, mind you; but you can potentially make millions without signing with WWE. That changes everything.

Baker is Adam Cole's Baybay.

No way AJ leaves. He's been pushed very well and paid. WWE video game cover. No way AEW could match that.

With TV deals: I imagine AXS and WGN America have probably made offers. They can be used to leverage places like the CW Network, which can be used to leverage the end goal, which I imagine has always been TNT or TBS. They’ve got some reputable people involved, and TNT has MMA starting up on the network soon. I think there’s a chance they could get it.

Pushed well does not equate to happiness. AJ asked to drop the WWE Title. He’s getting older and more banged up. It’s very likely he will stay, but if Khan is seriously trying to make a statement, he is obviously going to try and snatch the biggest active merch-mover and video game cover star. The perception of that would pay for itself, and it’d be tremendously useful when negotiating TV and their own merchandising deals.

At some point that WWE salary is going to be capped. Khan is sinking millions into this. It would be a daring move on Styles’ part, but it’s not impossible. A majorly reduced schedule, artistic freedom and guaranteed millions. It’s not something to sneeze at and you’d take an offer from this group pretty seriously.

Like, if Chris Jericho, Jim Ross and Tony Khan sat opposite me and promised to pay me $5 million over 5 years, regardless of what happens with this promotion, I’d definitely consider going against Vince. Especially at 42 when I am already considering retirement.

Can't wait until this gets started and Noid hates it.

I'm sure success and failure relies on who signs ELI DRAKE

Doesn't matter if its a success or not Noid won't like it. Especially if it's similar to BTE I feel. Eli Drake is locked up with Impact for now though so don't worry.

You’re such a sooky little nationalist scumbag. Don’t sully this thread with your pettiness and cunty assumptions.

Absolutely. If WWE gets him then All Elite has got a much better chance of success.

I like how everybody keeps talking about creative freedom.

You honestly think all these guys are just gonna be able to do whatever they want?

There are no details at this point, but the fact that they are selling AEW merch at prowrestlingtees suggest it is gonna be a new Indy promotion, not a new wrestling company.

The more I think about it, the more it feels like isn't really gonna be some new big thing.

It's one thing to put on a big show twice a year, btw are they going to truly draw people in week after week.

Either they have to be very good at being very different than WWE, or they will run the same course as TNA with an older roster.

You can't just throw a bunch of money into a wrestling company and assume it is going to be good and make money.

WCW made an actual profit maybe 2 or 3 years only, and that was back when there were only maybe 60 cable channels. And ultimately throwing a bunch of money into gave a short term return, but then it ended up losing more then it ever had.

AEW will be cool for a bit, then unless they really catch fire with a few things, it will just end up being to much to sustain, especially if they are giving multi million dollar guarantees to a roster full of top Indy guys.

In the end, hopefully it will push WWE to work harder instead of just sitting on their ass knowing they are guaranteed to turn a huge profit every year for the next 5 years no matter what they do.

Creative freedom doesn’t mean do whatever you want. I think people are just talking about being able to talk like a normal human being or cut genuine promos.

Lol, the Khans could probably just buy ProWrestlingTees and use that as a starting base for their merchandise. The Bucks have that deal with Hot Topic, don’t they? This is all part of those ironing out things to set up your revenue streams.

What are they going to be marketed as? Are they real wrestling making a comeback? Are they a new wave? Are going to use stars from the past or focus on guys <40? All this remains to be seen, and their platform and marketing is going to determine whether they can get a decent audience in. But the Khans could literally buy television if they wanted to. They don’t want to do that, and they won’t need to, but they could.

I don’t think people really appreciate just how much money might actually be going into this, and how self-sustaining this could be.

Like, this isn't just a few million to start up a wrestling company, buy a wrestling ring, lock a few people under contract and then hope it somehow gets over and profits. If the rumors of $100 million are true, then that is going to be enough stimulation to not only pay talent, but cover a lot of overhead without even factoring in television rights, ticket prices and merchandising. Let's say no one watches, but they still get a one-year deal for $65 million. That more than covers what WWE's production costs would be for a year (I saw something that your average Raw costs $885,000 to produce). Their overhead is not going to be that high. But assuming it was, that still leaves them with almost $20 million to pay talent, which is only $365,000 a week, but says nothing about the money Khan is going to sink into it and doesn't account for any other revenue streams or licencing deals.

If they hypothetically made AJ Styles an offer of $2 million a year, that's about $38,500 a year. Let's say they just round it up to $2.08 million a year and call it $40,000. That's over 9 AJ Styleses they can afford. But let's just say we get a roster of 30 people -- you can get $12,000 a week, on average, to talent, which means the average pay could be about $624,000 per year quite comfortably, which is really meaty without being insane. Shave that down to $500,000 and you've got more than enough money left over to make AJ Styles that offer.

That's of course grossly oversimplified, but these guys can pay to play. $100 million, if that is the right figure, is an insane amount of money -- and there's potentially more where that came from, and revenue streams I haven't even mentioned. YouTube is potentially a big one. Action figures and other licencing deals to get the AEW brand into shopping centers. WWE have led the way with reality shows too. It's possible that Brandi Rhodes could spin-off into her own cooking show or whatever. Doesn't she do something like that?

If they end up getting into bed with Turner, would it be so surreal to see Tuesday Night Dynamite on TNT, Cooking with Brandi and something zany with Cody and The Bucks on Adult Swim? That's all going to help people going to their shows, which is going to hopefully allow them to sustain themselves even more.

Like Dutch Van Der Linde or Mantell?

mantell

As funny as this is, and as much as I would like to pile on in shitting on Eli Drake being terrible, the problem is that WWE might actually rehab the guy into not being nearly as awful, and while the initial joke would work, the end result might be him being a big star that nobody saw coming and not Dollar Store Rocky Maivia.

They probably would reign in some of the shit that makes me absolutely despise him. Things might "click" there. But I still wouldn't watch him because he offends me so much for looking like the pervy uncle you have that works as a stripper but ends up needing to lick the cream off himself because women generally find him way too depressing.

WWE's reaction would be to release another season of Southpaw Regional Wrestling.

I think I touched on this earlier, but it may have been in my giant post that I lost before posting: Landing TNT is not only a huge thing because of how much exposure Turner's networks have, but it would also have that panache of being a return to the specific platform. There's potential nostalgia in that, and it could really help them.

People are cutting cable, yeah? But cable wants to stay in the game, at least for the foreseeable future. There are moves within these conglomerates to move towards digital and on-demand services, but if the idea is to make cable a thing that people keep and still have a use for and won't cut just yet, then having something like wrestling is really good:

* A lot of the people who watch are over 50, so they're more likely to have cable in the first place.

* There is nostalgia for those times.

Wrestling coming back to TNT and being that thing where people have a few beers and some pizza on a weeknight as they watch people beat each other up might have some sort of appeal that goes beyond what the actual brand does if it were to appear on even another reputable network. It might actually be able to mine something subterranean in people that makes them go "Hey, remember when we used to watch wrestling?" "Yeah, lol." "Well there's a new wrestling that isn't like that shitty WWF stuff." "Fuck yeah, man. Let's hang out and watch it." Like not in massive numbers or anything, but I think it's a good fit.

Good. Love that shit.

I'm not trying to sullly the thread. I'll probably support the promotion more than you. I just know you'll get all your fantasies in your head and then be disappointed when something else happens. If it's anything like BTE you'll hate it for sure.

Shut up, Simple. Stick to TNA and animal porn.

If this does indeed become reality, what's the chance that Khan would maybe talk to Tony Schiavone about doing play-by-play?

That wouldn't shock me that much to hear.

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Isn’t BTE their YouTube sketch comedy show? Of course he’d hate a wrestling promotion if it was like that? Why wouldn’t he?

I watch more wrestling than just Impact. Not sure where the animal porn is coming from but its a better insult than calling a nationalist a nationalist.

You could call it a scetch comedy show but its not always comedy and they use it to push storylines and big announcements like this. If Cody and the Bucks are booking the show its not to much of a stretch to think their show would be in the same light as BTE only on a bigger scale with wrestling involved.

what would goldberg do for them would he be management storywise

I'm sure he's got a few quick matches left in him. He'd be a good choice to be their first champion.

All Elite Wrestling sent out a press release which notates Brandi is Chief Branding Officer and that the rally on Tuesday will be streamed live and free on YouTube.


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:lol: Yeah, it's a pretty daft point to bring up.

Well, they use it for that at the moment because it's their platform. They don't necessarily have full backing from New Japan and/or ROH to promote that sort of stuff. That doesn't mean that when they do a wrestling promotion that it's philosophically going to be exactly the same. Cody, especially, seems to like trying to introduce a lot of pathos into what he's doing. I'm sure BTE is not going to go away, and it might even get its own platform, as I suggested earlier, but it's not fair to assume that just because they fuck around with a camera backstage at shows that that will be approach they take when they've actually got a budget.

I imagine he'll do some appearances, Spear and Jackhammer and bitch and talk about how All Elite is a new wave in wrestling people can get behind. I really don't see him going broadway with Kenny Omega or anything.

I might actually watch that rally. :y:

If only we knew what would happen if they actually booked a show...

We do.

And apart from the Janella/Page thing and its aftermath, it was a damned good, decently put together show. And that debacle was the most BTE thing on the show, but it was bookmarked by better things. That was the only bad thing I have to say about the event. Everything else was great. Cody/Aldis was a great traditional match. The Six man used the limited time to produce a frantic high energy contest that was the Bucks' best work. Omega finally looked the like the big star that he has been sold as for the past couple years. They play it mostly straight, with a dumb bit on the bottom of the card, I'll be perfectly alright with it.

They know how to market in the modern age. We are not very likely to get PWG with a big budget.

I'm all in on AEW.

Come on, Ted!

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MURDOCH GONNA BROADCAST THAT W W F?!

I've got to admit to not having watched it yet. I might just to see, since your tastes seem to match up with mine. I did find it a bit ridiculous that Scurll went so long over his time, and I've heard Jericho talking about how you can see a lot of backstage stuff that needs ironing out, but that will come with time. It's also kind of endearing when things have room to grow and get better. If everything kicked ass 100% of the time immediately off the bat, how bland would everything be? You'd also have nothing outstanding to call your favorite or "the best" or whatever.

Fuck, I just want something to happen in wrestling. It's so possible because WWE is not as invincible as people say. Like, they're not going out of business or anything, but people don't like that shit anymore. There's room for something better and preferred. And if it makes WWE actually try, then bonus.

I hope Mark Cuban, Rick Rubin, Ted Turner, Barry Bloom, Jim Ross, Wale, Toby Keith, Billy Corgan, The Rock, Dana White, Conan O'Brien, Hulk Hogan, Barack Obama and Todd Sinclair all throw a bit of money into a big vat along with Khan's $100 million and everyone gets a piece of the pie and they have endless funds to fuck around with and pay wrestlers to be actual wrestlers.

AEW could offer benefits to talent to help entice them over. They could offer pensions to talent who spend enough time wrestling for the promotion. Offer AJ Styles $60,000 a week for five years with 1% of his contract to be paid in order to retain licencing fees after that if he doesn't want to wrestle. Getting paid $15,600,000 over five years with a guaranteed cheque of $600 a week coming after that for as long as AEW stays in business just so they can use him in video games and documentaries or whatever would be a pretty appealing offer to me.

AEW also doesn't need AJ Styles under exclusive contract. It's very unlikely Vince would use him, but they could gain an edge in negotiations by simply taking priority with licencing and booking dates. There's no reason they couldn't let AJ Styles still wrestle at WrestleMania as a special attraction if Vince wanted him so bad. Now, would Vince bite? Probably not and everybody knows that, but it doesn't technically need to be one or the other.

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Your move, Vince

This is probably the greatest day in Jaguar football history

Tony Khan is a good looking man.

Like, it's bullshit to judge this from people's photos, but he seems "nice" too. Like he's genuinely happy to meet and hang out with athletes. From a PR perspective, he comes off a lot more sincere than the McMahons.

I agree

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That could end up being his downfall if AEW becomes successful enough to actually go up against Vince. The McMahons are where they are because they’re not nice. They’re ruthless bastards.

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Dad is the coolest looking majority owner in all of the big 4 pro leagues

Eat your heart out, Vince. Your family is only worth 2.5 billion? lolol!

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Brown Bash gonna sign all the talent

I find it.. amusing a guy that runs an NFL team is competing in wrestling with a wrestling company that's trying to compete with the NFL.