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slik 07-20-2019 03:09 PM

Watchmen (HBO) (SPOILERS INSIDE)
 
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Destor 07-20-2019 04:23 PM

Im cautiously optimistic

Lock Jaw 07-20-2019 11:58 PM

Still have no idea what to think about this one

Seanny One Ball 07-21-2019 12:11 AM

The cast is older and a lot of the characters are different but I'll look out for it when it's on because Watchmen was such a good film. Still never read the graphic novel but I might find a copy because I was curious about a few things on the Wiki page - what's canon and what's not.

Destor 07-21-2019 02:14 AM

The watchmen is the single greatest graphic novel ever wrtitten

Destor 07-21-2019 02:14 AM

I dont think this will live up to that but i think theres room for good stories here

Blonde Moment 07-21-2019 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destor (Post 5270998)
I dont think this will live up to that but i think theres room for good stories here

It's what i hoping for

Bobholly138 07-24-2019 11:22 PM

All Graphic Novels are comics,but not all comics are Graphic Novels.

Watchmen is a comic not a graphic novel.

Seanny One Ball 07-24-2019 11:25 PM

You're splitting hairs man.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphic_novel

Watchmen is actually one of three comics mentioned as popularising the term but apparently there is no difference besides the authors themselves considering the term "graphic novel" as either redundant, a marketing ploy or simply pretentious.

Destor 07-24-2019 11:54 PM

I have a hard cover sitting on my coffee table. Its a novel.

Seanny One Ball 07-24-2019 11:55 PM

Your coffee table book is Watchmen?!

That's pretty sweet.

Destor 07-24-2019 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seanny One Ball (Post 5272357)
Your coffee table book is Watchmen?!

That's pretty sweet.

that and a leather bound copy of the princess bride.


Also i have 1984 on the shiter

Destor 07-25-2019 12:04 AM

My only differentiation berween comic and novel is a few easy to answer questions:


Is it wrritten as a complete narritive?


Is it sold as a single narritive?


If yes to both its a novel. Watchmen is both.

Destor 07-25-2019 12:05 AM

If its a weekly/monthly/whatever serial then its a comic

Tom Guycott 07-25-2019 12:45 AM

Hm. I always took the term graphic novel generically to mean a collection of a serialized story (unless the story was written and released that way to begin with, which they sometimes are). Sorta like a piece of eight technically making a whole coin. Like, if I bought all the Secret Wars stuff off the news stand monthly when I was a kid as opposed to just going to a bookstore now and picking up the whole story in a single binding. Didn't know there was contention behind the term.

mitchables 07-25-2019 12:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Guycott (Post 5272368)
Hm. I always took the term graphic novel generically to mean a collection of a serialized story (unless the story was written and released that way to begin with, which they sometimes are). Sorta like a piece of eight technically making a whole coin. Like, if I bought all the Secret Wars stuff off the news stand monthly when I was a kid as opposed to just going to a bookstore now and picking up the whole story in a single binding. Didn't know there was contention behind the term.

what you're describing is a trade paperback. these tend to collect single story arcs (about 5-6 issues in length) from ongoing comic books or event series.

Destor 07-25-2019 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Guycott (Post 5272368)
Hm. I always took the term graphic novel generically to mean a collection of a serialized story (unless the story was written and released that way to begin with, which they sometimes are). Sorta like a piece of eight technically making a whole coin. Like, if I bought all the Secret Wars stuff off the news stand monthly when I was a kid as opposed to just going to a bookstore now and picking up the whole story in a single binding. Didn't know there was contention behind the term.

I own the secret wars collection. Some might call that a compendium but as long as the entire narritive is bound together i wont object if you wanted to call it a novel as long as its complete.

Lock Jaw 07-27-2019 01:36 AM

I just wonder if this will be as good as the Saturday morning Watchmen cartoon

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Sixx 08-05-2019 03:41 AM

Looking at the cast, the only character I recognize from the comic is Ozymandias. Pretty weird.

Destor 08-05-2019 09:17 AM

thats deliberate. show takes place 50 years after the source material

Sixx 08-05-2019 09:20 AM

Damn. So no Rorshack. :/

Destor 08-05-2019 09:45 AM

Well he's dead so no lol

Seanny One Ball 08-05-2019 06:56 PM

Rorschach, last seen as a fine red mist and accompanying stain

Sixx 08-05-2019 07:02 PM

He was perfect in the movie. I loved that movie (probaly the entrance the most), but I could do without the blue dick.

Seanny One Ball 08-05-2019 07:48 PM

The model they used for Dr Manhattan died bizarrely I think.

Seanny One Ball 08-05-2019 07:50 PM

Hit by a train while shooting a commercial on train tracks.
Something his mother should have warned him about.

Sixx 08-05-2019 10:38 PM

Wait, Billy Crudup was Dr Manhattan.

Sixx 08-05-2019 10:41 PM

Ok, ok some Greg Pitt was the body double.

slik 10-21-2019 01:36 AM

The first episode was stellar.

Triple A 10-21-2019 05:45 AM

Watched this not knowing anything at all about the comic books

Loved the first half of the episode, then the rest started feeling "iffy" to me... with the "bad ass cop" protagonist shit... Main character (?) feels unlikeable to me...

SPOILER: show
Glad they killed the police chief guy or whoever... annoying character

Droford 11-12-2019 01:59 AM

https://www.hbo.com/peteypedia

Invaluable for watching the show

slik 12-16-2019 02:25 AM

A nearly perfect season of a tv show.

Finale was one of my favorite hours of TV in a long time.

Frank Drebin 12-16-2019 09:28 PM

More Damon Lindelof garbage.

Show is fun but I'm not investing anything more than passive amusement in it.

What a surprise. It ended on a cliffhanger.

Droford 12-17-2019 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank Drebin (Post 5308751)
More Damon Lindelof garbage.

Show is fun but I'm not investing anything more than passive amusement in it.

What a surprise. It ended on a cliffhanger.

there wont be a 2nd season so, I didnt really see it as a cliffhanger

Frank Drebin 12-17-2019 08:00 AM

Didn't know that. Odd.

Seanny One Ball 12-17-2019 02:41 PM

I bet if Damon Lindelof had made Cliffhanger he would have put the opening scene at the end.

Seanny One Ball 12-17-2019 02:41 PM

Same with Ace Venture: When Nature Calls

Droford 01-16-2020 06:50 PM

Announced today there definitely won't be a 2nd season

Lock Jaw 01-16-2020 07:06 PM

That whole thing was weird..... like before the season came out they said there will be no season 2..... but then after it finished they were all "maaaaaybe we'll do one"..... until now where they finally confirmed they definitely won't do it.


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