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Rammsteinmad 03-28-2019 08:48 AM

Why are so many people fussing about Suri? I mean, she was a great character in Black Panther and all, but in terms of seeing people turn to dust, is is an Avengers movie... wouldn't it make sense to just focus more on the likes of, I dunno, Black Panther, Drax, Spider-Man etc?

Rammsteinmad 03-28-2019 08:48 AM

Look at us all. What a bunch of bloody nerds. :p

Big Vic 03-28-2019 11:20 AM

Because I can fap to Suri, not Drax.

El Vaquero de Infierno 03-28-2019 01:20 PM

Everybody faps to Drax, don't lie.

Gray 03-29-2019 08:14 AM

Why would they show Loki I wonder unless they planned on having him resurrected...

He wasn't one of the ones who Click*ed... Unless this would potentially mean the rest of the Valyrians and Co who died on the ship could return also...

Shadow 03-29-2019 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Big Vic (Post 5236943)
Because I can fap to Suri, not Drax.

Quote:

Originally Posted by El Vaquero de Infierno (Post 5236965)
Everybody faps to Drax, don't lie.

Big Vic just didn't want to admit that of course.

Innovator 03-29-2019 09:48 AM

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mitchables 03-29-2019 10:45 PM

slik can you please edit the thread title to read "endgame" instead of "end game"? the pedant in me is screaming

thanks, ily

mitchables 03-29-2019 10:47 PM

also, taking bets on whether nick fury as we know him is a skrull

mentions in captain marvel that he can't eat diagonally cut toast, but is seen eating diagonally cut toast in age of ultron

could just be a flub but marvel seems like it would be smarter than that

mitchables 03-29-2019 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Rammsteinmad (Post 5236921)
Look at us all. What a bunch of bloody nerds. :p

bunch of bloody nerds that can't get shuri's name right

Seanny One Ball 03-30-2019 12:25 AM

Explain the toast thing to me please

mitchables 03-30-2019 12:55 AM

in captain marvel, fury tells carol that he cannot eat toast that has been cut diagonally, for whatever psychological reason i guess

but in age of ultron, fury is seen eating toast that has been cut diagonally

so the theory is that - because they gave fury this very specific line that contradicts his actions later - fury, at some point, was replaced by a skrull who is now posing as him

it could just be meaningless/people overthinking it, but i also wouldn't put it past marvel because, like i said, it was a weirdly specific thing for him to mention

it'd also make an easy segue into a secret invasion-style plot line, if they're planning on doing that in the next phase

mitchables 03-30-2019 12:58 AM

there's also this concept art that leaked somewhere, apparently


again, still taking this with a grain of salt, but it starts to stack up when you realise we only see what happens to three of the four skrulls who land on earth during captain marvel - talos leaves with carol and two of them die, but there's no real indication of what happens to the last skrull

FOOD FOR THOUGHT i guess

mitchables 03-30-2019 01:04 AM

also don't forget that fury "died" in winter soldier before making a miraculous recovery - who is to say he didn't actually die, and the fury that pops up later in the film - and from then on - isn't his skrull replacement?

Seanny One Ball 03-30-2019 02:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mitchables (Post 5237431)
in captain marvel, fury tells carol that he cannot eat toast that has been cut diagonally, for whatever psychological reason i guess

but in age of ultron, fury is seen eating toast that has been cut diagonally

so the theory is that - because they gave fury this very specific line that contradicts his actions later - fury, at some point, was replaced by a skrull who is now posing as him

like i said, it could just be meaningless/people overthinking it, but i also wouldn't put it past marvel because, like i said, it was a weirdly specific thing for him to mention

it'd also make an easy segue into a secret invasion-style plot line, if they're planning on doing that in the next phase

Huh...

I would like this to be true.

RP 04-01-2019 03:07 PM

" We dont trade lives Captain ! "

RP 04-01-2019 03:17 PM

The 4 minutes where Thanos arrives in Wakanda, and Scarlette Witch holds him off. is one of the best scenes of all time.

RP 04-01-2019 03:21 PM

I think Thanos will try to fix things in the "End Game" and I think we'll get a different villain.

Big Vic 04-01-2019 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by RP (Post 5238045)
I think Thanos will try to fix things in the "End Game" and I think we'll get a different villain.

Hopefully "Kraven the Hunter"

XL 04-02-2019 04:03 PM

Everybody seen the new footage?

Tickets booked for 11:35 Wednesday 24th!!

RP 04-02-2019 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Vic (Post 5238051)
Hopefully "Kraven the Hunter"

That dont even add up to the story? What the fuck?

Big Vic 04-03-2019 08:28 AM

Tom Holland Did Not Get ‘Avengers: Endgame’ Script Because He Can’t ‘Keep His Mouth Shut’

Lol'd when I saw this because I imagined Peter Parker would have the same issue. Glad others pointed that out in the comments.

RP 04-04-2019 09:38 PM

I think Jane Foster and Sharon Carter will be back in this movie in some way.

Lock Jaw 04-04-2019 09:58 PM

As lovers?

RP 04-04-2019 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 5239374)
As lovers?

God I hope so.

XL 04-08-2019 04:26 PM

https://youtu.be/9QbltzIUV6w

Clip.

Sixx 04-08-2019 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by XL (Post 5241809)

HAte to say it, but thattrailer is pretty meh.

XL 04-09-2019 05:42 PM

It’s not a trailer.

GD 04-09-2019 05:42 PM

I am watching this movie at 2:30 AM

mitchables 04-23-2019 08:32 PM

seeing this tonight, should be pretty good i hope

Blue Demon 04-23-2019 08:49 PM

I'm going Thursday evening. Getting excited.

XL 04-24-2019 02:25 PM

No Post Credit apparently. Will confirm in 7.5 hours.

mitchables 04-24-2019 08:10 PM

it was great. so much fan service. couple of big moments got actual pops in the theatre. couple of nitpicks but honestly given the scale and scope i don't think we could have asked for a better result. you guys will love it.

rp what is your problem

XL 04-24-2019 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by XL (Post 5246663)
No Post Credit apparently. Will confirm in 7.5 hours.

Can confirm no post credit.

Damian Rey 2.0 04-24-2019 10:41 PM

Already reserved tickets.......for Tuesday lol. Excited. Based on reviews, it sounds like the first 2 hours are good but there's a lot to set up, a lot going on, but once the 3rd act gets going the movie kicks into gear. Pretty excited.

Impeccable 04-25-2019 03:45 AM

Quite simply the best film I've ever seen in the cinema. Would gladly go back and see again and again.

XL 04-25-2019 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Damian Rey 2.0 (Post 5246778)
Already reserved tickets.......for Tuesday lol. Excited. Based on reviews, it sounds like the first 2 hours are good but there's a lot to set up, a lot going on, but once the 3rd act gets going the movie kicks into gear. Pretty excited.

Would agree with this.

At the risk of being chased off the internet, there was a lot I didn’t like about the movie but the last hour really worked.

GD 04-25-2019 07:47 AM

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Damian Rey 2.0 04-25-2019 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by XL (Post 5246829)
Would agree with this.

At the risk of being chased off the internet, there was a lot I didn’t like about the movie but the last hour really worked.

This is what the reviews I've read lead me to believe so far. There's a lot "they throw a lot stuff at you to try to resolve 10 yrs of story telling, it doesn't all workor land, but the finale is immensely satisfying".

The last one was about as close to perfect as you're going to get. So if this one's 70% of Infinity Wars, then bravo.

mitchables 04-25-2019 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XL (Post 5246829)
Would agree with this.

At the risk of being chased off the internet, there was a lot I didn’t like about the movie but the last hour really worked.

nah i'm with you on this too. i thought it was a very strong ending to 10+ years of narrative but was definitely far from perfect. i think, on balance, i probably enjoyed infinity war more.

stray thoughts and observations:
SPOILER: show

- i think they took thor's 'funny' characterisation a step too far, maybe? his initial reimagining in ragnarok was goddamn inspired, and they balanced his humorous and serious aspects beautifully in infinity war, but he just felt a bit too goofy for me in endgame. idk. maybe i am being harsh. but his arc was the only one - compared with the other original avengers, anyway - that felt kind of unsatisfying imo

- on the other end of the spectrum, i goddamn loved banner-hulk. that was absolutely wonderful and a far more satisfying outcome for that character

- steve's arc, also, just beautifully wrapped up. also lol @ "that IS america's ass"

- i accept the 'going back and changing the past doesn't change the future' rhetoric, which enables things like future nebula killing past nebula without erasing herself -- even if it feels flimsy as hell compared to the more logical framework presented by back to the future etc -- but surely thanos travelling to the future and dying there would change things regardless; i.e. thanos goes to the future to attack the avengers and ends up getting dusted; therefore, thanos isn't around to make his later attack(s) in 2018, meaning he never gets all the infinity stones, meaning the events of infinity war should never have happened in the first place. right?!

or is this some kind of "no, it created an alternate timeline, so there is a future where thanos doesn't attack in 2018, but that's not 'our' timeline because time travel is bullshit" bullshit

- so there's a random loki out there somewhere with the tesseract -- presumably gonna be the loki we get for his series. deft workaround, i guess

- i guess if gamora's in gotg 3, she's gonna be 2014 gamora also?

- ok so speaking of gamora, the soul stone demands a sacrifice from the person who wants the stone, right? hence why thanos flings gamora off the cliff -- he sacrifices her to earn it. but nat/clint were both trying to kill themselves; doesn't that mean the other one didn't actually sacrifice anything? sure, clint lost someone he loved, but he didn't sacrifice her. in fact, he was actively trying to stop her sacrifice. i dunno. this film was so narratively overstuffed i might have missed some logical explanation for why suicide would work as a means of giving someone else the stone but it seems a stretch

- also how is clint just holding the soul stone when he wakes up, when it was made clear in guardians and other movies that ordinary people can't just handle the stones? the collector's offsider tries to grab the power stone in gotg 1 and literally explodes. actually, this movie has a lot of problems now that i really think about it

- odds that the 'falcon and winter soldier' series will be called 'captain america and winter soldier'? or will sam keep the falcon name regardless? either way, i really loved the way cap's (and sam's) story played out. again, contrary to thor, i think steve's arc really was handled beautifully

- the random teen at stark's funeral was the kid from iron man 3. i had to look it up because in the cinema i was just like 'who the fuck is that?' -- and i watched iron man 3 like two weeks ago so i am sure i am not the only one who doesn't recognise him.

- on that note, i was actually surprised that only nat and stark died. i was expecting a higher body count for the avengers themselves tbh

- i like that they gave carol her comics-accurate haircut. suited her well. i also appreciated that they didn't really make her the be-all-and-end-all deus ex machina i was expecting her to be. she helped a lot, but was hardly vital

- rocket holding nebula's hand on the ship's steps, his distress when he's trapped under the building debris, and when he tries to shield groot during the end battle are all heartbreaking li'l moments. i know he is a cgi raccoon but goddamn

- tom holland is, as always, an absolute joy. paul rudd also really good at bringing levity where it was needed and appreciated

- whole theatre popped like crazy for cap wielding mjolnir. that reveal and sequence was, admittedly, glorious

- 'i am... inevitable.' 'yeah? well, i... am... iron man' -- predictable as hell, but also absolutely perfect

so yeah... this all may seem like i'm being super-down on the film; i'm not -- i really, really enjoyed it and will undoubtedly watch it again, possibly even once more while it's at the movies, but i also don't think it was the best thing i've ever seen in a cinema at all. to each their own though i guess


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