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XL 04-27-2019 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Guru Dave (Post 5247290)
That deserved a correction.

Also,

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While the theater audience was very engaged, they didn't seem to care as much for Captain Marvel. Maybe because she's a newer character. There was no audible pop for her big return during the main fight, except for when she no sold Thanos' headbutt.

The "girl power" Avengers moment was kinda cool but felt a bit forced. But I also understand that it wasn't meant for me. I can imagine it meant a lot to young girls.

Since RP ruined Natasha and Tony's deaths, it did take me out of the moment. I would've loved to experience it without any prior knowledge.



I could really see this being a “exit point” for a lot of people. The 10+ year investment has been wrapped up, do people feel as passionately about Spider-Man/Strange/Panther/Falcon/Bucky/Marvel/etc? Will those characters bring in the audience in the same way? Although it’s entirely possible they do.

Fignuts 04-27-2019 04:42 AM

I was a little worried about that too, but the X-men being under the marvel umbrella now will really help with that, I think.

GD 04-27-2019 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Kalyx triaD (Post 5247364)
Or tell her heroes can be powerful regardless of gender and reverence over such a thing as gender misses the point of true heroism?

I mean it was a good shot, nice A-Force thing.

KT, while I acknowledge your attempt at being cute, you should understand that the world doesn't revolve around you and other people might have unique experiences that you cannot relate to. Cheers.

Rammsteinmad 04-27-2019 05:58 AM

Pretty much what XL just said in those last two posts. :y:

Edit: I'm on the wrong page, never mind.

Black Widow 04-27-2019 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by XL (Post 5247366)
However, if this is the reaction from little girls worldwide I can’t really fault it.

Pretty sure Marvel/Disney care more about who the movie is meant for and what they think instead of the grown men that will cry if what they wanted didn't happen.

Kalyx triaD 04-27-2019 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Guru Dave (Post 5247369)
KT, while I acknowledge your attempt at being cute, you should understand that the world doesn't revolve around you and other people might have unique experiences that you cannot relate to. Cheers.

Racist.

slik 04-27-2019 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by XL (Post 5247367)
I could really see this being a “exit point” for a lot of people. The 10+ year investment has been wrapped up, do people feel as passionately about Spider-Man/Strange/Panther/Falcon/Bucky/Marvel/etc? Will those characters bring in the audience in the same way? Although it’s entirely possible they do.

I think Spidey, Thor, Guardians, AntMan, Black Panther & Doc Strange will all do fine.


Falcon & Bucky are getting their own show on Disney +, same for Scarlet Witch/Vision, Loki (rumored to be Loki interfering w/ a different era of World History each episode) & Hawkeye/Hawkeye's Daughter as a dad/daughter superhero team. Black Widow has a film, assuming a prequel, due out next year that's described as a James Bond esque thriller.


The real test will be the new characters. Shang-Chi will be martial arts heavy, The Eternals will be very much in the Cosmic realm of the MCU and it's been rumored Feige has his eye on The Black Knight (which would obviously be very swordfighting heavy).

XL 04-27-2019 03:16 PM

Do you think Thor will get another solo movie? Spider-Man and Panther I agree with Ant Man and Strange ranked in the bottom half of MCU Box Office; do you think Endgame will raise their stock? I think at the moment I’m struggling to envisage the next team up movie being anywhere near as epic.

Totally agree with the feeling on the new characters. That said; There was a lot of who are the Guardians of the Galaxy in 2014 and look how that turned out.

Seanny One Ball 04-27-2019 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Guru Dave (Post 5247369)
KT, while I acknowledge your attempt at being cute, you should understand that the world doesn't revolve around you and other people might have unique experiences that you cannot relate to. Cheers.

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Originally Posted by Kalyx triaD (Post 5247401)
Racist.


I love this sort of thing

GD 04-27-2019 03:44 PM

Not proud of it

Seanny One Ball 04-27-2019 04:47 PM

It's hardly something to be ashamed of.

Fignuts 04-27-2019 05:17 PM

I’d really like to see them do another Thor movie with the god butcher story.

slik 04-28-2019 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by XL (Post 5247423)
Do you think Thor will get another solo movie? Spider-Man and Panther I agree with Ant Man and Strange ranked in the bottom half of MCU Box Office; do you think Endgame will raise their stock?


I bet Thor does, since the last one did so well. I think Endgame definitely raises Ant Man's stock and I am very pleased with that. I'm a big fan of the Ant films so far.


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Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 5247435)
I’d really like to see them do another Thor movie with the god butcher story.


I'd really like the current big Marvel event, "War of the Realms", to get a film. It involves all the other realms conquering Earth. Here's links to the first two issues (the others haven't come out yet) that can be read for free online.

Issue 1:
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/War...ue-1?id=152983

Issue 2:
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/War...ue-2?id=153782

Rammsteinmad 04-28-2019 06:02 AM

The Antman films are fun, and Paul Rudd is wonderful in his role. I'm totally for more films.

Seanny One Ball 04-28-2019 06:40 AM

Ant Man is my favourite. Paul Rudd clearly loves doing it, his face when he talks about it is always full of joy.

Ol Dirty Dastard 04-28-2019 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by XL (Post 5247365)
For me it’s a case of; by all means highlight the female heroes absolutely, give them some cool shit to do, have them save the men/save the day if you must but the convenience of them all being within a few feet of each other in this big sprawling battle and just how tacked on it felt really undid it for me.

it IS a movie

Lock Jaw 04-28-2019 08:09 PM

Finally saw it..... there was a lot going on, and not 100% sure it all makes sense... but overall I enjoyed it.

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I hope they don't just gloss over the fact that half the population of the world/universe is now 5 years older than the other half, and the chaos of that seems "big".

Lock Jaw 04-28-2019 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5247511)
I'd really like the current big Marvel event, "War of the Realms", to get a film. It involves all the other realms conquering Earth. Here's links to the first two issues (the others haven't come out yet) that can be read for free online.

Issue 1:
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/War...ue-1?id=152983

Issue 2:
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/War...ue-2?id=153782

Does Marvel constantly have big crossover events now? I don't really keep up with their comics, but I swear I just hear of one after the other. Like one will start and then end, and then a month later I'll be seeing articles about another big Marvel crossover.

Fignuts 04-28-2019 09:42 PM

Yeah, too many. Most of them suck too. I just read Infinity Wars and I don’t even know what happened.

Blonde Moment 04-28-2019 10:26 PM

Seems like the more they try and fix things the worse it gets.
I kinda like Uncanny X men at the moment but i know its going to turn to shit within the year

slik 04-29-2019 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 5247665)
Does Marvel constantly have big crossover events now?


Yes

And while I want to call them out on it DC currently has Heroes In Crisis, Doomsday Clock going on and is about to have DCeased, Year Of The Villain and EVENT LEVIATHAN going on at the same time too.

Lock Jaw 04-29-2019 12:44 AM

I though DCeased was some out-of continuity random mini-series, not a big event.... and that Leviathan was just a Superman thing.... and Year of the Villain was also not an event but just one of their 25 cent one shots they have been doing.....

mitchables 04-29-2019 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5247736)
Yes

And while I want to call them out on it DC currently has Heroes In Crisis, Doomsday Clock going on and is about to have DCeased, Year Of The Villain and EVENT LEVIATHAN going on at the same time too.

as lock jaw said, i don't think dceased and yotv are technically big 'crossover events'

event leviathan is, but it's bendis so really what did we expect

even then, heroes in crisis and doomsday clock are largely relegated to their own series (i.e. i don't think there's like "heroes in crisis: batman" issues or whatever the way there was with, say, civil war/fear itself etc - might be wrong though, i haven't really been keeping up with books outside of my core reads), although they will/do have canon-wide consequences -- but otherwise, dc's last big thing like that, really, was rebirth, which was three years ago now

and to be totally fair, i think dc thought doomsday clock would well and truly have wrapped up by now - v much doubt they expected it to still be concurrent with heroes in crisis by the time it rolled around

Fignuts 04-29-2019 03:05 AM

Actually it's the same with marvel. There's still typically only one major, status quo changing crossover every year. But they've been throwing smaller ones in between for years now.

For instance, stuff like Chaos War and Damnation, while pretty big deals from a story perspective, aren't given the marketing treatment of say Secret Empire or Infinity Wars.

Fignuts 04-29-2019 03:08 AM

Anyway, when it comes to marvel, it's all about the ongoing comics. At any given time, theres usually a bunch of titles I'm really digging.

Which is why I hate the abundance of crossovers. The more crossovers, the more often good stories are interrupted by shitty tie ins.

Fignuts 04-29-2019 05:08 AM

All that said, War of the Realms is pretty fucking tits so far.

Rammsteinmad 04-29-2019 07:23 AM

Endgame made a billion dollars within four days. Crazy.

Seanny One Ball 04-29-2019 11:01 AM

It was always going to smash records. It seems fucking crazy to me that Avatar and Titanic were the films to beat. Both of them are awful.

GD 04-29-2019 11:24 AM

Seanny, will you make an exception and go to the cinema to watch this?

Seanny One Ball 04-29-2019 11:33 AM

No, I know what happens anyway so I'll wait.

Big Vic 04-29-2019 12:35 PM

Titanic wasn't that bad.

Lock Jaw 04-29-2019 12:47 PM

Avatar wasn't that bad

GD 04-29-2019 12:54 PM

It's a travesty that Aquaman isn't #1

Seanny One Ball 04-29-2019 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Vic (Post 5247850)
Titanic wasn't that bad.

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Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 5247856)
Avatar wasn't that bad


How dare you disagree with me

Big Vic 04-29-2019 01:03 PM

I honestly don't recall this female moment in the avengers. Can't find a clip either, can someone find it for me? lol

Fignuts 04-29-2019 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Vic (Post 5247850)
Titanic wasn't that bad.

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Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 5247856)
Avatar wasn't that bad

They weren't that good either.

Blue Demon 04-29-2019 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 5247653)
Finally saw it..... there was a lot going on, and not 100% sure it all makes sense... but overall I enjoyed it.

SPOILER: show
I hope they don't just gloss over the fact that half the population of the world/universe is now 5 years older than the other half, and the chaos of that seems "big".

SPOILER: show
Maybe they aged the 5 years wherever they were?

Big Vic 04-29-2019 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 5247905)
They weren't that good either.

Yeah but he said Titanic was awful.

Seanny One Ball 04-29-2019 04:31 PM

They are awful.

slik 04-29-2019 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 5247739)
I though DCeased was some out-of continuity random mini-series, not a big event.... and that Leviathan was just a Superman thing.... and Year of the Villain was also not an event but just one of their 25 cent one shots they have been doing.....


DCeased is supposed to be Darkseid sending the Anti-Life equation via the internet, not sure if it's continuity or not.


EVENT LEVIATHAN Bendis said will be 'one of the biggest stories in DC history' and change the DCU forever...but again, it's Bendis, so that could mean that or it could mean absolutely nothing at all.


Year of the Villain will 'infect' almost every series. Starting in Justice League w/ the rise of the Mother of the Multiverse, Perpetua, it will see villains being given new powers to use on her behalf in multiple series as she attempts to turn the Multiverse into a weapon against the greater omniverse and her celestial siblings. Her children, The Anti-Monitor, Monitor and World Forger, will have to choose sides.


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