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Destor 11-14-2016 03:23 PM
Thats what I think the machine was doing in that scene 100%

Innovator 11-14-2016 04:33 PM
Yeah that way she can say whatever needs to be said to get the board off of him, then she can kill herself and absolve him of murder

Emperor Smeat 11-14-2016 05:39 PM
HBO recently ordered a new season to be made and rumored to be arriving in 2018.

Looks like HBO's gamble hoping this would be their big replacement for Game of Thrones ended up paying off since the weekly viewer average is higher than what GoT did for its first season. Also doing a lot better than True Detective did for its first season.

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/wes.../1100-6445408/

Lock Jaw 11-14-2016 06:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Destor (Post 4886559)
Thats what I think the machine was doing in that scene 100%
Agreed.

Destor 11-14-2016 06:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Smelly Meatball (Post 4886609)
HBO recently ordered a new season to be made and rumored to be arriving in 2018.

Looks like HBO's gamble hoping this would be their big replacement for Game of Thrones ended up paying off since the weekly viewer average is higher than what GoT did for its first season. Also doing a lot better than True Detective did for its first season.

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/wes.../1100-6445408/
Kind of bad data though isnt it? West world is able to have higher veiwership due to GoT raises the number of subscribers. Their retention rate with be interesting.

Emperor Smeat 11-14-2016 07:48 PM
Somewhat. By default it needed to be a huge success because of the bigger sub base and huge sums of money HBO spent for the show.

If it was marginally better, HBO probably would have been frustrated because of the money spent and if it was worse, they'd be in a bigger panic since they'd have nothing big ready to replace GoT.

Since the show is a big hit, HBO probably sees enough in their data to believe any subs drops after GoT's ends is either going to be small or non-existent with what Westworld can bring to the network.

Blue Demon 11-15-2016 12:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Triple A (Post 4886557)
probable/possible theories:

SPOILER: show
Read some thing speculating that Ford will probably create a host version of Theresa to hide the fact that he had her murdered

Which also "begs the question" of how many other employees met a similar fate for trying to meddle with Ford's plans,,,

Also a theory about Bernard actually being a host version of Arnold, who was murdered by Ford? Idk if that makes sense though, for a robot to have a different name and personality but look exactly like Arnold? Has no one else ever seen the real Arnold?

I think that theory is based mostly on when Ford showed Bernard this photo and said that it was a photo of Arnold, but the 2 people in the photo are Ford and his father. Looks like there is a space for a 3rd person that Bernard can't "see" which is y people think that Bernard couldn't see "himself" / Arnold.

https://i.imgur.com/vX3YXHo.jpg
Maybe
SPOILER: show
Bernard was a real person and the government are stake holders looking into transferring consciousness into robots and the "theme park" is a way to pay for it.

Lock Jaw 11-21-2016 12:02 AM
"Freaking sweet" episode tonight......

Destor 11-21-2016 12:04 AM
One to go right?

Lock Jaw 11-21-2016 12:06 AM
Two to go

Destor 11-21-2016 12:10 AM
Yesssss

Triple A 11-21-2016 04:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Triple A (Post 4871161)
Blonde host lady who introduced McPoyle to all the stuff is smokin' hot.....

<img src="http://i.imgur.com/5dzy4dI.png" width="380" height="auto">

Elon Musk was married to her I guess

https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/zB...3b62e62eed4f68
Good to see her return as new character

Triple A 11-21-2016 04:26 PM
Also glad Dolores's "dad" is BACK

Triple A 11-21-2016 04:48 PM
damn... theory / possible spoiler (maybe don't read):

SPOILER: show
Reddit comments speculating that the Man in Black is William (McPoyle) 30 years later. https://www.reddit.com/r/westworld/c...ssion/da911qg/

Cause he said "I though they would've retired you" to that lady, who is the one that checked in McPoyle.

Quote:
"30 years of marriage"
"I thought they would've retired you"
Also:

Quote:
I think it was confirmed when he says "so I came back because this place has a way of bringing out your true self." That is what he told Dolores on the train in the last episode
Feel like I wish I hadn't read this... should just try to watch the show without spoiling it 4 myself!

Triple A 11-21-2016 05:09 PM
Also I watched the original movie and it was kinda shitty. Felt incredibly rushed and simple and basic. The show is nothing like the movie.

Destor 11-21-2016 05:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Triple A (Post 4889882)
Also I watched the original movie and it was kinda shitty. Felt incredibly rushed and simple and basic. The show is nothing like the movie.
If you watch it with the fact that it predates terminator in mind it can be appreciated

Lock Jaw 11-21-2016 06:23 PM
I have adopted this as a theory:

SPOILER: show
MiB is the "CEO" of the company that William and Logan work for.....

Innovator 11-22-2016 01:08 PM
One working theory is that the MiB is the human from the original series

Lock Jaw 11-22-2016 02:00 PM
Would hate that, I think..... don't want it to be a Jurassic Park sequel situation where it is like "you didn't learn from the first disaster you had?"

Lock Jaw 11-28-2016 12:08 AM
William has snapped and is in the zone

Destor 11-28-2016 12:55 AM
Been bothering me all season: how are the guests safe guarded from melee attacks? Arrows?

I dont want to over think the show but it seems like a glaring issue.

Triple A 11-28-2016 02:43 AM
"Chilling" episode... very good. Even though I was expecting all the "reveals" via reading Reddit theories, it was still freaking sweet as hell. Kinda even made it better.

Triple A 11-28-2016 02:47 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Triple A (Post 4889871)
damn... theory / possible spoiler (maybe don't read):

SPOILER: show
Reddit comments speculating that the Man in Black is William (McPoyle) 30 years later. https://www.reddit.com/r/westworld/c...ssion/da911qg/

Cause he said "I though they would've retired you" to that lady, who is the one that checked in McPoyle.

Quote:
"30 years of marriage"
"I thought they would've retired you"
Also:

Quote:
I think it was confirmed when he says "so I came back because this place has a way of bringing out your true self." That is what he told Dolores on the train in the last episode
Feel like I wish I hadn't read this... should just try to watch the show without spoiling it 4 myself!
Feels like this theory was also kinda furthered tonight.
SPOILER: show
Or at least definitely that the William storyline is in the past. Early in the season, the "Man in Black" talked about how he opened up the robots in the past and they were all mechanical instead of blood and guts like the modern ones. Dolores was v mechanical when she got stabbed by Logan which indicates it was in the past, back when she was an "old model."

Also there was some other thing about the logos used. When William first comes to Westworld, they are using the "old logo" in the room where he gets his introduction.

http://i.imgur.com/WbPb6gi.jpg

Frank Drebin 11-28-2016 07:41 AM
Pretty sure they just about confirmed it with Dolores this week.

Lock Jaw 11-28-2016 12:28 PM
Feel like that would be the stupidest thing ever and I don't see it coming to pass at all.

Triple A 11-28-2016 12:32 PM
Why would it be the stupidest thing ever

And seems like 99% confirmed tbh

Lock Jaw 11-28-2016 12:34 PM
Doesn't seem confirmed at all to me.... seems like "grasping at straws"......

XL 11-28-2016 12:53 PM
Dunno LJ, seems pretty nailed on to me.

Triple A 11-28-2016 12:56 PM
Other theory about "Wyatt" that seems to be basically confirmed...

SPOILER: show
"Wyatt" is probably Dolores.

When Teddy keeps having flashbacks to the Wyatt massacre, that is the same place where Dolores also had flashbacks to herself with a gun, with lots of people being shot.

Also it was revealed she killed Arnold, so probably went on a "killing rampage"

Teddy is looking for Wyatt and leading the man in black to "Wyatt"... Is told he will find Wyatt at the church, and when he gets there, he finds Dolores

etc.

RP 11-28-2016 03:12 PM
MIND BLOWN

Destor 11-28-2016 03:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Triple A (Post 4892193)
Other theory about "Wyatt" that seems to be basically confirmed...

SPOILER: show
"Wyatt" is probably Dolores.

When Teddy keeps having flashbacks to the Wyatt massacre, that is the same place where Dolores also had flashbacks to herself with a gun, with lots of people being shot.

Also it was revealed she killed Arnold, so probably went on a "killing rampage"

Teddy is looking for Wyatt and leading the man in black to "Wyatt"... Is told he will find Wyatt at the church, and when he gets there, he finds Dolores

etc.
Nah doesnt work. Dolores was at her farm when the man in black showed back up. Also the wardrobe contradictions and such.

Triple A 11-28-2016 05:03 PM
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Emperor Smeat 11-28-2016 05:39 PM
Season finale was announced to be 90 minutes long. Unlike other episodes, a different director was in charge of the finale.

Quote:
Jonathan Nolan, the brother of Inception and The Dark Knight director Christopher Nolan, directed the Westworld Season 1 finale; he also did the pilot.
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/wes.../1100-6445773/

Triple A 11-28-2016 05:57 PM
Jonathan Nolan is also the co-creator of the show.

Frank Drebin 11-28-2016 08:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Destor (Post 4892234)
Nah doesnt work. Dolores was at her farm when the man in black showed back up. Also the wardrobe contradictions and such.
I think we are being led to believe the massacre happened prior to that with Dolores possibly having a previous assignment.

Destor 11-28-2016 10:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Frank Drebin (Post 4892415)
I think we are being led to believe the massacre happened prior to that with Dolores possibly having a previous assignment.
Follow me here though.

1. Man in black returns.
2. Rapes doloris.
3. Doloris turns out to be Wyatt

That doesnt track at all. If she was wyatt then jist days prior teddy was smooching up to her when the man in black killed him. Doesnt make sense.

Triple A 11-28-2016 10:52 PM
That was before Ford started his "new narrative" I think. Wyatt thing is part of the new narrative, which he said was based on something that happened before. (I think)

Triple A 11-28-2016 11:03 PM
I think Dolores went on a killing rampage 30 years ago and killed a bunch of the staff and Arnold and now, 30 years later, Ford is trying to recreate that. They had the church and stuff rebuilt, and Dolores is returning to it, etc. Maybe Ford is getting her to go on a killing rampage again and kill the Delos board members and stuff.

Destor 11-28-2016 11:04 PM
Im ok with the story being told out of order but i really hope that if thats the narritive that there is some compelling pay off to doloris being wyatt. Im open to it though.

Destor 11-28-2016 11:05 PM
(NOT CONVINCED MIND YOU)


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